Our old friend Cognitive Dissonance was at play again last night. Hearts manager, Paolo Sergio, seemed to accept Stephen Elliot’s second minute attempt was cleared so quickly officials might not have had a chance to ascertain if it crossed the line, but he tried to reconcile his frustration at this reality by publicly adopting a position which, on reflection, he should accept is in contravention to the rules of the game.
Elliot’s attempt struck Joe Ledley, who was standing on the line with his arms stationary and by his side, before being cleared by Fraser Forster.
Sergio said, “If you don’t see the ball over the line then you should see the handball which is a penalty and a red card.”
It’s scarcely credible that the Hearts manager is unaware of the rules of the game which clearly establish that for a handball offence to be committed the player needs to deliberately use a hand or arm to play the ball, not have the ball played against his stationary hand or arm.
No one had much of a clue whether the ball had crossed the line or not until after watching multiple TV replays and even then, while I can understand the attacking team claiming a goal, TV evidence does not provide conclusive proof that the whole of the ball crossed the line.
This will no doubt be the source of Sergio’s frustration; his team could have taken the lead but didn’t. Armed with this frustration he then created a false scenario which allowed him to reconcile his feelings of grievance.
What a shower. Struggling to operate in the SPL and pay tax, disorganised team structure and afflicted by football’s Cognitive Dissonance epidemic.
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greenjedi at 10:47
You picked our captain!!! Has he finally won you round. :-)
Let’s all do the broonie
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Mort
THE BATTERED BUNNET 1009
Some post.
The only bit I understood without re-reading wasn’t even in my native language!
As you say,quel dommage…
Morning Bhoys
A policeman is driving along the road when he gets an urgent message on his radio telling him there has been a dead body found beside an icecream van just down the road from Ibrox. The Polis rush to the scene where he
discovers CW’s body, a chocolate flakes up each nostril,raspberry sauce all over his head, and covered from head to toe
in hundreds and thousands.
A puzzled Bear onlooker asks the policeman what he thinks has happened, to
which the policeman replies: “It looks like wee Craig topped himself”
greenjedi says:
10 February, 2012 at 10:47
I would be happy with that. I would also be happy if NL selected the same team as Wednesday on the basis that they looked capable of squashing anything that came in front of them :-)
Lionroars
yep, changing horses again.
Consider the impossible happened and they won the taxcase, .and somehow weaseled their way into solvency I know I know, but imagine.
Where would that leave the laptop loyal and the huge majority of the media? They have him down as a conman, shyster, clueless. All probably correct, but I can see them now trying to squirm back into favour.
Our closest rivals…
Goalkeepers
McGregor
Alexander
Gallacher
Defenders
Goian
Broadfoot
Perry
Bocanegra
Wallace
Papac
Whittaker
Bartley
Midfielders
Bedoya
McKay
Davis
Edu
McCulloch
Wylde
Aluko
Kerkar
Celik
McCabe
Strikers
Healy
Hemmings
Little
On Garden Leave
Lafferty
Naismith
Fleck
Hutton
Ness
and over the hill comes Cousin’s.
We must win this League.
C_F
One’s allowed a little inconguity, so one is.
Oh, and a spellchecker for Christmas maybe…
Rogueleader
I want to understand this perfectly.
When/If/When Rangers are liquidated the company that they have been since 1872 is no more.
In order for a new company to escape further requests for outstanding payments from HMRC I undersatand they need to convincingly prove that they are a separate company. Does this mean different directors, players, staff, stadium etc, team colours etc?
Also, did Fergus simply name change or was “old Celtic” dissolved?
Mort
He’s playing well just now so I’d pick him, but to turn me round he has to play as well in the rest of the games as well to prove its not a flash in the pan and continue that into next season as well.
One or two Swallows does not make a Summer!
.
Breaking Sue You News..
Whyte reaches Settlement with Ex Wife..
Half of All his Monopoly Money..
Half a Mayfair Hotel..
Half of 1 Scottish Banknote..
Half of a Unopened Tax Bill..
Half of The Club Deck Debenture ( To be Paid in Full)..
And a Quater of The Rangers Manager.. Which is a Quarter of a Half Wit..
Summa
Steinreignedsupreme says:
10 February, 2012 at 10:48
Is that Tom Waits in that clip???
RogueLeader says:
10 February, 2012 at 10:22
‘On FF you have Mark Dingwall telling his denizens that even if Rangers are liquidated and a newco started up they will not lose their titles and history.’
If the newco huns are allowed straight into the SPL that will be the position, de facto if not de jure.
In the collective consciousness of the hun hordes it will be a seemless transition.
That’s just another reason why they should be made to start again from scratch in the third division.
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:06
My recollection is that the original Celtic 1888 Ltd company remains. The only difference is it is now part of the Celtic PLc group.
HH
My team for Sunday:
::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Scoop ::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Cha :::::::::::::: Rogne ::::::: Wilson ::::::::: Mulgrew
:::::::::: Brown ::::::: Wanyama :::::::: Ledley :::::::
::::::::: Forrest :::::::: Hooper ::::::::: Samaras ::::::
Cha at RB – for me he has performed better in this type of formation than Adam did on Wed (i.e. St Johnstone away, Kilmarnock home) – it would be interesting to see the difference he could bring with his pace.
I wouldn’t like to see Stokes starting this one – he’s not been on great form, and he’s never been great shakes v Inverness at CP (with the exception of last year’s LC game against a depleted side).
That midfield and attack are not only Celtic’s best in terms of form, but are in my opinion our strongest overall this season. The defence is still a bit up in the air – it’s possible Lenny sees Dan and Kelvin as no.1 choice, but I’d be tempted to stick with Rogne and see how it pans out.
Sammi is world class.
#Justsayin
TBB
I completely agree with your summing up of ole CW. I never thought he was a financial genius. The “take a punt on it” theory as to why he bought TFOD is as good a one as I have seen.
Would it be possible for you to ask Paul for my email address? I would like your input on something about the oldco/newco situation.
Moonbeams WD. Kano 1000 \o/ Supporting Neil Lennon 100%. says:
10 February, 2012 at 10:27
LMAO. Truly hilarious because it’s soo true.
Tears in eyes
brimmer
celticinthesun – I think TheGreenManalishi @ 11.10 is spot on
ernie lynch – the collective burblings of the hun matter not. NewCo hun start in 2012 with zero titles, zero trophies, zero history. I look forward to reminding them of this at every hands turn…..
TheGreenManalishi(WithTheTwoProngedCrown) says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:10
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:06
My recollection is that the original Celtic 1888 Ltd company remains. The only difference is it is now part of the Celtic PLc group.
HH
……….
Thats why we had/have two Boards. The PLC Board and the Football Board
celticinthesun at 11:06
On 15 december 1994 the then Celtic Football and Athletic Coy Ltd submitted a form “CERT7 – NAME CHANGE AND REREGISTRATION FROM PRIVATE TO PLC” to Companies house changing the status of the company to a Plc and changing the name to Celtic Plc.
This is common practice when a company changes from private limited to public limited and the company remains the same. The Articles of Association and Memorandum of Association were also amended around this time.
Mort
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:06
‘Also, did Fergus simply name change or was “old Celtic” dissolved?’
He changed the corporate structure and name of the club but financially it was a continuation ie same assets and liabilities, same relationship with the Inland Revenue, Customs and Excise, SFA, SPL, UEFA, FIFA, the Vatican, The Army Council etc. And same company registration number. No taxes dodged. No creditors screwed. No bills left unpaid. No contracts torn up.
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:06
Celtic were never dissolved. He paid the bank debt and took over the club. Kevin Kelly was the catalyst. Looked like Michael Kelly was stubborn enough to let the club die.
Murray done a similar deal with Whyte to rid himself of the club. Effectively gave it away but the difference between the two takeovers are this:
McCann had a plan
McCann had money
McCann faced a barrage of abuse in the press
McCann had a stadium to build
McCann told the fans what he would do and delivered
McCann made mistakes and the fans let him know it
McCann was under appreciated
McCann made a fortune (Only man in football to do so in such a short time frame)
McCann is a real Celtic supporter
McCann is not a billionaire but is very rich and is astute with a proven track record
McCann took on the SFA and won
McCann was not liked by everyone but had a job to do and done it
McCann had some cracking bunnets
Reports that Fergus McCann likes Jelly & Ice Cream are uncomfirmed as yet.
Thatsenoughmccannfacts CSC
LB
Has anyone started a playlist for the Jelly & Ice Cream party?
Can i suggest the following (slightly amended) classic from Johnny Cash?
Glasgow Rangers, you’ve been livin’ hell to me
You’ve hated me since eighteen seventy three
I’ve seen ’em come and go and I’ve seen them die
And long ago I stopped askin’ why
Glasgow Rangers, I hate every inch of you.
You’ve cut me and have scarred me thru an’ thru.
And I’ll walk out a wiser stronger man;
First minister why can’t you understand?
Glasgow Rangers, what good do you think you do?
Do you think I’ll be different when you’re through?
You bent my heart and mind and you may my soul,
And your orange brick walls turn my blood a little cold.
Glasgow Rangers, may you rot and burn in hell.
May your walls fall and may I live to tell.
May all the world forget you ever stood.
And may all the world regret you did no good.
Glasgow Rangers, you’ve been livin’ hell to me.
TheGreenManalishi
Great, thanks.
Any ideas on this how far a newco will have to go to convince they are not old co?
RogueLeader says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:14
‘ernie lynch – the collective burblings of the hun matter not’
On the contrary, in the final analysis, they’re all that matter.
‘You’re never beaten until you think you’re beaten’.
They have to be left in no doubt that they’ve been beaten.
Morning gents from a dank, dreary north Glasgow.
Busy, busy week so not had the opportunity to be on much. Thought we were outstanding on Wednesday night, as comfortable a performance at Tynecastle as I can remember.
I read that Cousin could be on his way back to the darkside, an interesting acquisition should it go ahead. I recall walking along Crownpoint Rd. a few years ago, prior to a Glasgow Derby, when a member of our group received a text giving both team selections for the day. There was much laughter when we heard that Cousin would be playing up front on his own, up until that game he hadn’t started a game all season for them.
The rest is history. With aggression and not a little support from the MIB, he clattered Caldwell and McManus all over Parkhead leading them to a comfortable 4-2 victory. Now I know he’s older and I know he’s not being playing as regularly as they would like but I do think that he will be a welcome and worthwhile addition to their squad.
As an aside, I was asked by a mate last week if I thought we would win the treble. I replied that if we conquered both ICT and Hearts then yes we would.
What a party we’re having in May!
Pass the parcel anyone?
Will watty’s fat teaboy pair big danny coozan up front
with their new wonder kid from the murray parks
conveyor belt of talent, kane hemmings (who?).
For those who don’t know this is the new rankers
sensation hot on the heels of jamie ness and the other
wonder boy john (fleckinho) fleck who rankers have
loaned out to la liga high flyers real madrid.
Neil Lennon better watch out for the iborcs backlash.
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:19
‘Any ideas on this how far a newco will have to go to convince they are not old co?’
Peterhead, twice a season.
Hoopeddreams, sure, but I may not have much to offer in that respect.
TBB
Up over goal
You know how much I stalk your team selections mate. One of the highlights on here for me.
So i’ve noticed that since you’ve given up picking your bro, you’ve now went onto dropping Mathews for Cha!!!
I’d be willing to wager you won’t have too many agreeing with you on that and I feel your reasoning is bonkers tbh.
But it’s in your opinion, and that’s what it’s all about.
Still loving your stats etc, if not your team selections ;)))
HH
brimmer
It was either Wishart or Hannah that made the point on Clyde last night to a caller asking about the timing of the fit n proper test for Whyte,that it would have been a very brave SFA to interrupt desperate negotiations to deny Whyte the takeover.
It’s maybe at times like this that the merits of having ex hun employees heading the national authority are very few and far between.
Maybe were just paranoid.
Greenjedi / Mort / TheGreenManalishi
Celticrumours twitter had a link to the companies house information on their website a couple of days ago.
Gave the date of creation of the company clearly as 1887 I seem to remember. With one name change in 1994.
Still the same company, just had its name changed.
Dont have time to check backnow as I am away to a meeting but I shall find it this afternoon and put up the link.
Completely different scenario to the govan paupers current predicament.
ernie lynch says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:20
“They have to be left in no doubt that they’ve been beaten. ”
Never a truer word.
Livibhoy
And Fergus had the backing of 10,000 supprters at £620 each.
celticinthesun says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:19
That my dear friend is the million dollar question. My gut feeling is that it will not be as easy as some would have us think. My prediction is, that this will get very messy.
HH
sixtwo says:
10 February, 2012 at 11:17
That is as good as gets mate. Sung the whole thing out loud and wished I could play guitar to belt it out when they go..
Take a bow son
brimmer
The Moon Bhoys-Dermot Desmond would enjoy Moustachio Ice Cream.
hat,coat,pokey hat……