Celtic will play KR Reykjavik in the Champions League second qualifying round with the first leg taking place on either 15or 16 July. Celtic are provisionally at home for the first let – but don’t book your flights until arrangements have been confirmed.
KR beat Glentoran 3-0 on aggregate in last season’s Europa League qualifying campaign before losing 1-3 home and away to Standard Liege. The Icelandic season continues throughout the summer, KR played a league game yesterday and have another three competitive games before meeting Celtic. Nine games into the league campaign they are three points off the pace.
From what I can tell, it looks like they have a grass pitch at their 3300 capacity stadium, which removes the big complaint from last season’s qualifiers.
This is a good tie for Celtic, who will be physically stretched by a mid-season team, but we’ll be strong favourites.
We were last in competitive action in Iceland against Valur in 1975, when a 0-2 win out there preceded a 7-0 victory at Celtic Park.
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Igc
Is there a list of the teams we have played in Europe or do you have a very good memory?
I’ll ask the simple question that brings current football and current politics into the debate, but I believe necessarily so.
Would independence be good for Celtic and if so why?
If not, how is the circle between being a Yes and a supporter of Celtic squared?
Or is it too uncomfortable to consider?
yorkbhoy
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_F.C._in_European_football
Auldheid
15:12 on
23 June, 2014
Celtic are affiliated to and are a member of the Scottish football association
Are you suggesting two scenarios
A no vote means the end of the Scottish football association
A yes vote means the SFA will continue
Yorkbhoy
No memory is that good, well, certainly not mine.
However, fact finding and a nerdy group of pals who love Celtic-related quizes on the way to away games means the Lunchtime Quiz just keeps on truckin’.
weeminger
14:37 on
23 June, 2014
I see Nicola Sturgeon at Wimbledon supporting Andy Murray. Hopefully she’s got a Saltire tucked away somewhere.
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That post caused some disturbing imagery to pass thru this Tim’s heid…
;)
(It’s probably tucked into her makeup…………holdall.)
HH
Auldheid
15:12 on
23 June, 2014
Football has absolutely zero consideration in my voting stance. When all is said and done it’s a relatively trivial part of my life.
If what may or may not happen with Celtic is a major part of your consideration then I’d suggest you’re not taking it seriously enough. If I was to think about it, off the top of my head it may actually make it easier for us to look at joint leagues with other countries, as UEFA seem more in line to accept that than they would us joining and English set-up. I really haven’t given it a moments thought until now. Nor have I been given reason to.
If you have concerns about the law etc and how it may affect you as a Celtic supporter then that is a different matter and definitely part of a wider more serious debate.
Auldheid
15:12 on 23 June, 2014
My impression from discussions on here over the years, ie before the referendum dominated the agenda, is that nats are dead against Celtic playing in the EPL but some might consider some kind of European or Atlantic league though most would prefer us to bide in oor ain wee bit.
The likelihood of a yes vote is now so remote that it’s probably not worth the effort of considering what it would mean for Celtic.
Ernie have you flounced? Of late your posts have become very repititive not up to your usual standard as I think some on here are begining to notice. How do you think we will do this season? What would be a good season in your unbiased view? Hail Hail Hebcelt
Here is a section of anti catholic rhetoric and actions carries out by Labour MPs and party members. I believe there may be a view of some on here that SNP=anti catholic, Labour=pro catholic, but in the catholic church itself, you may be surprised to find that there is probably (and I have no data to back this assertion) a majority of pro independence priests and bishops. Indeed Cardinal Winning himself was pro independence, with a distrust of the Labour Party. As a catholic, it may be fair to say that unofficially, the scottish catholic church would support independence, if it was to give an opinion.
New Statesman
Is Labour becoming the anti-Catholic party? Young Labour’s vice chairman, Conor McGinn, thinks so. He has resigned his position, offended by what he saw as the anti-Catholic attitude surrounding the recent Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill……………………………………………………………………………………………… “Should devout Catholics such as Ruth Kelly, Des Browne and Paul Murphy be allowed on the government front bench in the light of their predilection to favour the Pope’s word above the government’s?”
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Father Ray Blake
the problem of anti-Catholicism in the Labour Party and growing threats to conscience rights. The Mary Honeyball affair exemplifies both these things. In May she wrote an eye-wateringly anti-Catholic peice for the Guardian in which she questioned whether Roman Catholics should be discriminated against in public life
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Catholic Herald
No wonder so many Catholics have switched to the SNP. Can you blame them? The SNP is a genuinely socialist party (well, at least compared to Labour) and it does not embody the sort of attitudes that are seemingly precisely calculated to put Catholics off. The late Cardinal Winning was a staunch Labour man in his youth, or so I am informed by friends; but towards the end of his life he was strongly sympathetic to the Nats. Lots of others have taken that path.
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Christian News
Jim Dobbin, a British Catholic Labour MP has written to Prime Minister Gordon Brown expressing concerns about what he has described as the anti-Catholic prejudice of some party members.
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Deadline
ONE of Scotland’s most senior Roman Catholic bishops has accused Gordon Brown’s administration of discriminating against Catholics.
Bishop Joseph Devine attacked Labour for running “the most anti-faith and anti-family government in living memory”.
Writing in a comment article over the weekend Devine claimed that the party had lost its traditional moral values and had failed to discipline senior MPs who have used inflammatory language when attacking the Catholic church and the Pope.
He also described Secretary of State for Scotland Jim Murphy’s claim that Labour is the natural party for religious voters as “bewildering”.
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Official Anti-Catholic Bigotry Returns to British Parliament
By Hilary White
LONDON, January 29, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – British Catholics heard a flurry of naked anti-Catholic sentiments expressed last week by some government Members and Cabinet Ministers
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The Guardian
The Scottish National Party yesterday tabled a fresh motion in the Scottish parliament calling for repeal of the Act of Settlement.
In December 1999, the parliament had unanimously backed an SNP-led motion condemning the act as discriminatory and calling for its abolition.
The original motion was drawn up by the SNP’s minister for education, Mike Russell, who also tabled yesterday’s motion. “It is an issue that I feel very strongly about,” he said. “It is institutionalised discrimination at the heart of the UK constitution. The time for talk on this matter is surely over, and the time for action is now. I am delighted that the Guardian is contemplating a legal challenge against its blatant discrimination. It is high time that Westminster followed the Scottish parliament’s lead and got rid of this ancient discrimination once and for all.”
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Another aspect of this story is why Labour MP William Bain thought it was acceptable to allow people working for him who sing anti Catholic sectarian songs?
What does it say that Parliamentary Aides of Labour MSPs Ken Macintosh and Pauline MacNeil sing different versions of “We will follow Rangers” employ such people?
For those of you not familiar with the tune as sung on the terraces, here it is:
Follow follow, we will follow Rangers,
Everywhere, anywhere,
We will follow on,
To Dundee, Hamilton,
F**k the Pope and the Vatican.
How many other Labour Activists who are also employed by Labour MPs and MSPs sing this type of sectarian filth?
When I first came across this Labour Party scandal, I thought it was just a case of plain swearing and chucking a bit of abuse about, the rough house of politics.
Now, I find out, it has a sectarian aspect; I am less understanding about Stuart MacLennan’s position.
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July 01, 2008
Is Labour becoming an anti-Catholic party?
Is the Labour party now anti-catholic? The political party that was once the home of the Irish catholic working class is now ejecting large prts of its core vote
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In the early twentieth century Ramsay MacDonald bestrode the fledgling British Labour Party like a colossus…….
…….. MacDonald’s antipathy to Irish republicanism in addition to being a proud and unabashed imperialist. MacDonald successfully batted away any emotional outbursts from his left wing or from the Irish community in Britain in his determination to position his party as a loyal and responsible defender of British interests.
It would be unfair to argue that MacDonald adopted the policy he did on Ireland simply because he came from an anti-Irish and anti-Catholic Scottish Presbyterian background. It was perhaps inevitable, though, that he felt a kinship with Ulster Protestants
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Catholic Voice was a radical Catholic website from the United Kingdom ran by Timothy Johnson of Sheffield, which was religiously persecuted and censored by a gang of reprobate Orwellian Members of Parliament, mostly belonging to New Labour.
Forgive me Ernie you have’nt flounced just taking deep breaths between posts. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Sevconia is on the Dark Side.
Auldheid
15:12 on
I’d echo lionroars67 at 15:18 on.
The yes no debate isn’t really revelant to this issue of Celtic and where we play. The people who will ultimately decide on this are UEFA .
So what’s your position on Celtic moving to England or even a Euro league, I guess you are for the status quo based on what you have said before about abandoning our friends down south for personal gain. I would think this argument could be used when discussing Scottish football and how our leaving could have an negative effect.
Pesonally I think a case could be made to support our leaving as it could benifit the other teams in the longer term though may ultimately undermine our own core supporters.
eddieinkirkmichael
15:32 on
23 June, 2014
Auldheid
15:12 on
I’d echo lionroars67 at 15:18 on.
The yes no debate isn’t really revelant to this issue of Celtic and where we play. The people who will ultimately decide on this are UEFA .
Nail on head Eddie
The EPL don’t want us Scotland independant or not
We play in accordance with the rules and memberships of the footballing authorities, SFA, EUFA and FIFA
This will not change independance or not
Billy bhoy05 starts every independence debate.
Cqnmythsdebunked csc
eddieinkirkmichael
15:32 on 23 June, 2014
Auldheid
15:12 on
‘The people who will ultimately decide on this are UEFA .’
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I’d suggest that UEFA are more likely to allow clubs to move to another league if that league is within their own state.
ie we’ve more chance of moving to the EPL if it’s a no vote.
lionroars67
15:38 on 23 June, 2014
Would you be in favour of Celtic moving to the EPL?
Yes or no.
GEORDIEMUNRO
BILLYBHOY05 received news today almost as good as-in his opinion-a YES vote.
I’m delighted for him. Not so much for me,haha!
CrypticCSC.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
15:44 on 23 June, 2014
‘BILLYBHOY05 received news today almost as good as-in his opinion-a YES vote.’
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They’ve found a brain donor who’s a suitable match?
Delighted for him.
Bobby,
One of you got the ‘all clear’?:)
Bunga bunga csc
ernie lynch
15:43 on
23 June, 2014
On a footballing level yes, to see Celtic play against better more varied teams would enhance the viewing experience, certainly a league which would be far more competitive
Not a fan of the EPL its overhyped and has far to much money in addition as England has just found out, it does the domestic game no favours
On balance i would say no
Coolmore Mafia 15:27 on 23 June, 2014
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Thanks for that wee compendium !
From the point of view that a move might increase our tv and sponsorship money and thus allow us a better chance to compete in Europe, I’d welcome any move be it EPL or otherwise.
GEORDIEMUNRO
Wish if got the all clear fae the fella managing the signals on Saturday night!
ERNIE LYNCH
Aye,right. More chance of finding a liver donor for me….
ernie lynch
15:42 on 23 June, 2014
I’d suggest that UEFA are more likely to allow clubs to move to another league if that league is within their own state.
ie we’ve more chance of moving to the EPL if it’s a no vote.
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Using that logic would we not stand a better chance of joining up with other European FAs if we were independent and not part of the UK?
Just caught sight of a Brazil training session.
Hulk looks about a stone overweight and Sideshow Bob was wearing a watch.
HH!!
ernie lynch
15:42 on
Another red herring Ernie, states countries whatever have absolutely nothing to do with it. This is about associations and we are members of SFA
Ernie Why? Hail Hail Hebcelt
whitedoghunch
Just finished the Jock Stein documentary.
Feeling too raw to respond other than emotionally.
Was at a seminary in England when I heard he had joined Celtic and even at that age I knew it was great news, so I ran to tell a few fellow Tims. They were all ecstatic.
I was at Hampden in 1965 with my pal Brian McKenna when we beat Dunfermline.
Alone at home I watched the Lisbon final.
What times we had.
What a man.
Thanks again for the link.
HH
Auldheid
15:12 on
23 June, 2014
I’ll ask the simple question that brings current football and current politics into the debate, but I believe necessarily so.
Would independence be good for Celtic and if so why?
If not, how is the circle between being a Yes and a supporter of Celtic squared?
Or is it too uncomfortable to consider?
Celtic operate under footballs governing bodies.
in our country it is the SFA .(no that you need Telt:-)
Celtics status of operating in an independent country,Scotland,should be of no difference in terms of football.we will still be overseen by the SFA,a corrupt organisation which will hopefully be changed and lead to a more transparent governing body which is fair to all members.This must happen if football has to have any kudos in this country.Remember the wrongs,lies and cheats that wrecked our game where done so under the union not in an independent scotland.
Hence today you have a range of opinion from yes to no,but all within Celtic and neither opinion will change how they feel bout the club or whether it effects their love of Celtic.
I dont follow your last 2 questions bout how the circle between yes and Celtic supporters and what is uncomfortable?
HH :-)
Auldheid 15.12
I think the debate should be about what we want for Celtic irrespective of the referendum.
We are a massive club with tiny TV revenues in a world where TV money is skewing football finance inexorably towards the big clubs in the big countries. If, somehow, the TV monies were shared more evenly, or Celtic gained entry to a big league, do we want Celtic to be paying obscene wages to prima donna players? That, for me, would be the end of Celtic being “more than a club.”
There is already a disconnect between a big section of the support and the PLC which runs the club.This would surely get a lot worse if our budget was similar to Man Utd or Barcelona.
I realise that we must adapt to the times we live in, or fall by the wayside. You have said it often enough; the stronger clubs must do more for the rest or competition becomes meaningless. The fans of smaller clubs in Scotland will surely see the irony of a Celtic fan saying this.
If it’s simply the case that we want to be at the top table by whatever means then, yes, we push to get into England or a euro super league – Harlem Globetrotters, anyone?
Financial Fair Play is the only show in town if our game is to be sustainable in the long term. That means, no matter what country we play in, the weaker teams must have access to meaningful funds so that proper competition can be achieved. I am confident that these matters are at the top of UEFA’s and FIFA’s agenda. NOT!
Tallybhoy,
Quite a dull update.
Now if it was a pocket watch…..
:)
In Terms of Celtics social and economic and policy that will be determined by our board and shareholders as it is done every year,regardless of who the electorate vote in.
HH
No point in discussing Celtic moving to the EPL. A European league is on the way. All the big guns want it. Far too many teams in Europe are now in 2 or 3 team leagues. It will happen. Probably 2 teirs. Maybe a North European League and South European league with play offs for the top prize. It will happen though and Celtic will be a part of it.
The EPL had their chance to have Celtic part of their league 10-15 years ago and didn’t want them.
LB
Weeminger
In Scottish football I see the possibility of what independence might bring.
It’s not the football per se but the example of what an unbridled self governing authority can produce and that bothers me because that self governing authority is a reflection of a mindset that has produced an impoverished football industry and a set of daft laws to further impoverish it.
I’m surprised the connection is not being made.
But even without that, the economic argument for separating from a market in which our game could thrive for some nebulous promise that we will be so much better off that the betterment of our game is a sacrifice worth making, is not persuasive enough for me to put what is a beacon of what Scottish society could aspire to be ( an ethical institution ethically run) to take the risk.
On UEFA if they might be willing to consider cross border leagues then why not be even keener to see leagues where no border exists?
Surely when seeking to play in another league, the drum beaters should actually be the SFA / SPFL?
If there is open promotion and relegation, and the SPFL is a feeder league along with the Dutch, Belgian league etc, then there shouldn’t be much fall in prestige for the current administrators of our game.
It is up to all the clubs to ask the SFA/SPFL to pursue change. Why the other clubs aren’t is beyond comprehension.
eddieinkirkmichael
16:02 on 23 June, 2014
ernie lynch
15:42 on
‘Another red herring Ernie, states countries whatever have absolutely nothing to do with it. This is about associations and we are members of SFA’
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It’s not a red herring.
Though I can understand why a nat hoping for a yes vote would like people to think that it is.
Auldheid
There might be even more ‘state aid’ haha :-)
HH