The injury crisis in central defence had an interesting consequence for Celtic’s Champions League squad, announced yesterday. As things stand, we have only two fit central defenders who have played for the club, Liam Scales and Gustaf Lagerbielke. Nat Phillips is fit but has yet to make his debut.
As recently as a month ago, Liam could have expected to be at another club by now, but subsequent events, not least his performance at Ibrox, mean he was certain to be included as one of the 17 non-home-grown players in the 25-man squad.
Had Maik Nawrocki been fit, it is unlikely that Nat Phillips would be at the club, or that Liam made the cut (he would not have played at Ibrox), freeing up an extra place which would have been taken by Alexandro Bernabei.
Liam can also play left back, so our first reserve for that position missed out. Being Scottish, Scott Bain benefited as Benjamin Siegrist missed out. James Forrest, Mikey Johnston, Tony Ralston and Stephen Welsh, Greg Taylor and David Turnbull are the other Scottish-developed players in the squad. At the rate English and German clubs have picked off our teenage talent in recent years, it is no surprise the club work to keep fringe former-youth players on the books.
Clubs from small countries face many pressures, shoe-horning so much of our Champions League hopes into only 17 players raised outside our territory is one of them.
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Wee ally nails his flag to the mast … more common tater jobs in the pipeline…
Hola.
World class breakfasts beat Scotland.
Lost half of their league games, failed to qualify for the Champions League, not discovered what Beale Ball is. Time is now, write to the SFA indiscreetly of course and query why a foul, is still a foul, when it’s against Rainjurz at home? Blitzkrieg our compliant SMSM with images of Harry Kane and the mother nation revel at Murray aka Auchenhowie aka Hummel aka Auchenhowie again, training ground in the aptly named home of the Bearsden.
That should do it, staved off the inevitable new sacking till Christmas where the ‘massive ahem rebuild’ © SMSM might or might not see new stars ‘find ahem their feet’ © SMSM. The keys to whatever they call it now, were part and parcel of the Rainjurz legacy, stolen in plain sight of Scotland by Mad Men who surrounded then menaced the liquidator. The ‘assets’ a stadium, a training ground and don’t forget dear ole Edminston House previously valued during succulent lamb days, by the hundreds of millions were all gifted to Sevco.
The brothers bear fixture list has been well cast though, they don’t play anybody decent away from home till full autumn, and the least of your worries will always be football when you are built not even on cheap concrete, but sand laced with lies. Watch Wilko or previously Woolworths for a definitive ‘let’s have a look at what should have happened’ .
SMSM has responsibility in spades for the existence of a Rainjurz, the patching of liquidation cemented the myth of continuity. They are now committed to full flow service, just give them the League Cup now, and tell them John Lambie style, TavPen really is Pele.
World class breakfasts that became, the world class breakfasts and the gift that keeps on giving CSC
Interesting one Paul.
It’s instructive on the club’s asset management when our Euro Crew includes two injured players – one who was predicted to be out til mid-Oct (Mikey J) and ‘Stephne’ Welsh who Brendan said would be out for almost x4 months (coming back in mid Nov?).
I know injuries are unexpected. But how many clubs go into Euro comps carrying to unavailables who hardly ever get a game even when fully fit ?
A special memory today – hope you don’t mind me posting
20230913 Bringing Martin Home “KANO”, “CQN”, where it all began. @foundationCFC
https://mouldy67.com/2023/09/13/20230913-bringing-martin-home-kano-cqn-where-it-all-began/
Bearsden is actually New Kilpatrick.
Up the hill from Old Kilpatrick, and believed to be the origins of our Saint Patrick.
Our champions league squad may suggest Paul rates our latest transfer window higher than Brendan does.
The league remains the priority, though I’d like to punch our weight in Europe. No heavy defeats and revert to the lower competition afterwards
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BIG JIMMY on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 9:14 AM
Before the Scotland v England game, they showed McCoist interviewing Andy Robertson and Harry Kane….separately in a Pre Recorded piece…..
During his conversation with Harry Kane, McCoist decided to mention some GREAT English Players that he had played alongside…..
” Terry Butcher, Ray Wilkins Trevor Steven and…..and wait for it…… TERRY HURLOCK ” !
Since ” WHEN” was TERRY HURLOCK ever a so called GREAT Player for anyone ?
” Im TELLING you this, Im TELLING you that, Im GONNA TELL you this….I lost count of the number of times the FAT GARDENER started a sentance with…” I’m, TELLING you this BLAH B;LAH “.
The CHUMP McCoist is the most annoying so called Pundit/Commentator that I have ever heard, and I could name quite a few.
DION DUBLIN should stick to selling Hooses on TV…or whatever it is he does…..He is another THICK CHUMP.
He was also a total DIDDY at Fitba.
I will ask again…..is ANYONE on here aware of when Ex THUG/DIDDY ” TERRY HURLOCK” was EVER described as a ” GREAT” Player before McCoist making that statement last night on Channel Four ?
I seriously doubt that any Hun supporter had ever considered Terry Hurlock as a ” GREAT Player” during his time with the auld Rangers.
McCoists opinions and so called ” PUNDITRY/COMMENTATING” last night was nothing short of EMBARRASSING.
McCoist constantly ” I will TELL you this, and/or I am GONNA TELL Tell you this” throughout the full 90 Minutes, is easily one of the WORST SO Called Fitba Commentary that I have EVER heard., and I have heard numerous disgraceful ” Commentaries” from the mouths of other Chumps over the years.
HH
Log-in, again
I’m actually pretty happy Scalesy is sticking around for now.
Not sure if he ever had a good crack at under Ange.
He brings a much-needed ruggedness to his defensive duties and our whole backline.
Renaissance under Brendan I hope. HH
Terry Hurlock.
Reminded me of a gonk on steroids.
Last Friday, I had Scotland to beat Cyprus with the Correct Score of 3 – 0 and John McGINN to score at ANYTIME with the Bookies at odds of 10/1.
Last night, I had my Correct Score Bet Bet with the Bookies on England to beat Scotland 3 – 1 at odds of 14/1.
All very good but now IF I can only transfer some of my Bookies Fitba SPL Predictions to the Weekly SUPERBRU Competition !
LOL
HH
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 12:40 PM
Terry Hurlock.
Reminded me of a gonk on steroids.
……….
Very Good Mate.
LOL
Whenever I see that Hun CHUMP ” ALEX RAE” on TV….I always think of that Star Trek Character ” QUARK”.
LOL
HH
ALEX FERGUSON says…
” Legendary manager Sir Alex Ferguson has lavished praise on Rangers supporters for “keeping their dignity” in the aftermath of the stormy 2012 vote which resulted in them turning out in fourth tier of Scottish football.
The Ibrox side started the 12/13 campaign in the Scottish third division after 10 of the 12 top-flight clubs voted against their admission into the top tier in the wake of administration which was followed by liquidation. And the former Rangers striker is utterly convinced that was the wrong call as he believes both the product on the pitch and attendances in the stands suffered. But Sir Alex reckons followers of the Light Blues covered themselves in glory with their behaviour during a tumultuous era in the wake of Craig Whyte’s exit and the tribulations which followed under Charles Green.”
I NEVER liked Ferguson as a ” Player or Manager”.
I have never liked him as a Race Horse Owner either !
Another Hun CHUMP.
Big Jimmy
He gets even worse with this statement
“. I was surprised about Rangers, after they got back in the Premier League, they [the fans] still travelled. They could easily have said ‘well I’m not going there, you voted us out’. But they kept their dignity.”
watched that Fergie documentary…
He mentioned how (when he signed for the Huns) he was asked by a Hun Director if he was married to a Tim and if he was married in a Chapel..
When he told the director that he did marry a Tim but that it was in a registry office – the Hun director replied “That’s alright then”
Fergie said he let himself and more importantly his missus down and that he wished that he had told the director to “F*ck Off”.
BIG JIMMY
Mair weird lookalikes…
Robbie Neilson and Daniella Westbrook ??
:O
SPIKEYSAULDMAN 1.39.
watched that Fergie documentary…
He mentioned how (when he signed for the Huns) he was asked by a Hun Director if he was married to a Tim and if he was married in a Chapel..
When he told the director that he did marry a Tim but that it was in a registry office – the Hun director replied “That’s alright then”
Fergie said he let himself and more importantly his missus down and that he wished that he had told the director to “F*ck Off”.
Correct spikeys
Ah bit,ah bit,ah bit
Your watchin ra pash made documentary made by his son Jason fur channul4,
No thi wan thit wiz shown the urr nite oan rainjurz telli,the home of troof,always trying to redact history are the bigoted bangers of a toileted identity long gone.
HH
PRESTONPANS BHOYS on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 1:21 PM
Big Jimmy
He gets even worse with this statement
“. I was surprised about Rangers, after they got back in the Premier League, they [the fans] still travelled. They could easily have said ‘well I’m not going there, you voted us out’. But they kept their dignity.”
…………………
I am UNAWARE of that Hun Mob of EVER having ” Dignity” ?
LOL
HH
QUADROPHENIAN on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 1:51 PM
BIG JIMMY
Mair weird lookalikes…
Robbie Neilson and Daniella Westbrook ??
……….
Aye mate…Good Wan also.
HH
“MOULDY67” SUPPORTING THE FEARLESS OSCAR KNOX on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 12:29 PM
Thanks for posting Mouldy,great post.
Have shared it widely
HH
Well our Bayern Munich bhoys are now on loan at Wigan and Queens Park, where hopefully both will do well. Wee Doakey is getting some minutes for Liverpool and more for the Scottish U21s. That said wouldn’t it have been preferable to have listed two young Scots from the Celtic B team in our CL squad, assuming that is within the rules of course, than include both Johnson and Welsh who, if needed, would surely be the only players in our history to be carried onto the pitch. Much as I have retained my faith in Mikey, that might be taking expectation just a bit too far even for me.
I think all the B squad players are automatically available for the CL, as they are classed as homegrown due to their age
the huddle
Then would not need to be Scots. Rudi Vata?
Had to Google it
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0284-18c96679e324-08f5ecb58dbb-1000–champions-league-group-stage-squads-player-registration-dead/
What is List B?
A player may be registered on List B if he is born on, or after, 1 January 2002 and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with UEFA – or for a total of three consecutive years with a maximum of one loan period to a club from the same association for a period not longer than one year. Players aged 16 may be submitted if they have been registered with the club for the previous two years without interruption.
the_huddle
Even for the experience alone got to be better decision making than listing two injured players. No?
You can still use B list players in your match day squad, it’s the A list that is limited, and causes issues where foreign players have to be excluded.
Ideally you’d want a few 1st teamers who meet the criteria for the B list, freeing up a space in A for an older player.
I think Ajer was maybe a good example when he first broke through to the 1st team, he would’ve been included in the B list rather than A, though not certain.
AN TEARMANN on 13TH SEPTEMBER 2023 2:28 PM
Thank you for comment and appreciate sharing
the_huddle
Thanks for all that. Seems pointless registering players who cannot play at all, ie Mikey and Stephen.
Was some discussion on here re CL ticket prices, noticed on the UEFA website that they will make tickets available for next years Euros, over 1 million at 30-60 Euros. Have to register though, and they are not yet available.
“When I signed for Rangers, one of the directors asked me about Cathy.
“He says, ‘I have to ask you a question about your wife. I believe she is Catholic, were you married in a chapel”
—
Feguson then proceeded to sign for the huns after being spoken to like this by one of their directors.
That says a lot about the man, for me.
An Dun
He was brought up a Rangers fan. He was over the moon to have signed for his boyhood team. Many on here would have done the same if it involved the Tic.
He said he regrets it.
He said he wished he had told the director to F*ck Off.
Thats says something about the man now, don’t you think ?
Liam Scales is deservedly in the CL panel after his display against Rangers Newco particularly when the heat was on in the second half. In particular I remember a courageous clearing diving header in our goalmouth when boots were flying in from all angles. His tackling and blocks were excellent and i was surprised by his excellent range of passing and can’t remember any that were off target. Methinks Rocky will have a contender for the central defence position if Liam’s form continues to improve.
eltic Mac on 13th September 2023 2:55 pm
the huddle
Then would not need to be Scots. Rudi Vata?
See Celtic player Rocco Vata scored a couple for the Republic’s under 21’s last night. wonder how he qualifies for Ireland?
Vata is eligible to represent Albania through his father (who played for the Albania national team), the Republic of Ireland through his grandmother on his mother’s side, Scotland by virtue of being born there, and Montenegro.[2] He has represented the Republic of Ireland
scullybhoy on 13th September 2023 11:13 am
Irish outlet rave about Rocco Vata as Celtic man steals the show in midweek
Wed 13 September 2023 07:15
Hamish Carton
Celtic youngster Rocco Vata was the standout performer for the Republic of Ireland’s under-21s on Tuesday evening.
The young Irish side kept up their 100% start to qualifying with a 3-0 victory over San Marino in Cork.
The opposition are hardly one of the better international youth sides around. Yet Vata still stood out on the evening, netting two goals.
His first strike, after seven minutes, saw him convert from close range at the back post. His second, on the brink of half-time, was a smashed effort from a tight angle on the right-hand side.
Vata has only recently made the step up to under-21 level. However, he is already earning plaudits in Ireland, with the Irish Times saying some very flattering things after the midweek clash.
They say that Ireland “struggled to find their rhythm” for much of the game but that Vata’s goals “helped to settle any nerves”.
The Celtic man is described as the “standout player” in the game. He switched between the left and right wings to great effect, laying on plenty of opportunities for his teammates, as well as netting the goals.
Interestingly enough, it’s also reported that full Republic of Ireland boss Stephen Kenny was in attendance at Turner’s Cross. Vata will certainly have made a positive impression on him.
Bosun Lawal was also in the Ireland team and showed an “impressive range of passing” according to the paper. So all around a pretty good night.
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Give Rocco a new contract CSC
spikeysauldman
So at 19/20, he’s a man. If he had of signed for them at 15 or 16 then absolutely he’d a get a by ball. Not so much as an adult, married man.
Does Fergie claim he was unaware of their signing policy before and during his time there ? I find that hard to believe if that’s the case.
The comparisons with Celtic fall well short for me as the question would not have been asked nor did we bar players based on their creed.
So no, it makes little difference to me.
hankray
Rocco? Always mix him up with his Dad, Rudi. Showing promise with the U21s in Ireland, I think he should be in the Celtic first team squad, but then if he was, like Doak, he wouldn’t be playing much football. And we keep buying players who play more or less in the same position. Notice Evan Ferguson conspicuous by his absence re the Republic, wonder if he is going to do a Declan, (3 caps for Ireland under Martin) and sign up for England?
Would not surprise me one bit.
“Clubs from small countries face many pressures, shoe-horning so much of our Champions League hopes into only 17 players raised outside our territory is one of them”
Interesting.
So how do we shoehorn fewer of our hopes into 17 players then?
Pathway (Basically the Lowland League) seems to be a problem.
Would be great if we could guarantee our young boys they’d only have to suffer one season of this before a series of progressive loans across Scotland or England as a pathway to the first team.
Contentious other point but here goes.
If we are interested in another Scottish player what additional premium do we pay for the privilege of another name on the CL squad A list?