Jock, Martin, Gordon and Neil

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You remember Celtic manager, Gordon Stachan, third manager in our history to win three-in-a-row?  Took us to the Champions League knock out stages for the first time, did much of this while comparative economics were moving against us, remember him?  Is he the same Gordon Strachan who has transformed the Scotland national team’s results?

Gordon is unequivocally a successful manager but his Scotland team is performing far better than I thought possible when he took over what looked like a poisoned chalice.  The most stunning fact of his record there is that they have not conceded a goal in three successive away games.  Gordon’s Celtic covered 15 months, across two championship winning seasons, without keeping a single clean sheet away from home, no matter how lowly or distressed the opponent.  Even good, experienced, managers learn, especially from their earlier troubles.

Jock Stein is viewed mostly through the prism of 1967 but during his final season as Celtic manager, 1977-78, the sentiment among many in the support was decidedly downbeat.  Rangers (remember them, played in blue, I think?) would win their third title in four seasons, with two trebles thrown in for good measure.  Celtic finished fifth in the league, Jock’s judgement was widely called into question.

At the time Leeds United were a top club in England and after Celtic sacked Jock they moved to secure him.  Leeds had no doubts as to his abilities.  A little over a month later the SFA offered him the Scotland job, which he took and excelled at, twice succeeding in World Cup qualifying campaigns.  His talents were without question but stood in sharp contrast to how many in the support viewed him a few years earlier.

I don’t know if Jock was a better manager in 1982 and beyond than he was in 1978 but there’s a decent chance his football education didn’t stop when the trophies dried up at Celtic.  Gordon Strachan is, like Jock was until the end, a student of the game.  Neil Lennon is too, he is also receiving some of the reviews his illustrious predecessors would recognise. Gordon was an excellent Celtic manager but he’s better now, perhaps as a result of life’s experiences along the way.

It’ll be really interesting to see how Euro qualifiers reflect on the comparative progress of Gordon and Martin O’Neill, who for my money was a better manager than Mourinho when the latter deployed some of the best players in the world against Celtic in Seville, and needed to deploy every underhand trick in the book to come out on top.

I was blown away by the stunning contributions to our Mary’s Meals campaign yesterday.  First in was an incredible £200 + £50 gift aid donation, followed by others, large and small, every one appreciated.  Ignore those who would tell you society is dead.  You can get involved here.

Seville, The Celtic Movement, launches this month.

“Porto were favourites and would go on to prove how good a team they were by winning the Champions League 12 months later. Their players would demonstrate their prowess across the world for the next decade. They had fabulous talent, so much so, that they should have aspired to better than the gamesmanship used during their run to the UEFA Cup and Champions League wins.”

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  1. CQN CHELTENHAM Naps Competition

     

     

    Lads, for anyone who wants to take part in the CQN Cheltenham Naps competition, please post your daily selections at the end of this article :

     

     

    “Jock, Martin, Gordon and Neil”

     

     

    N.B.

     

    please bookmark this page, as we will be using the same page for the entire week of the Cheltenham festival !

     

     

    Good luck… fleagle1888

  2. Lads,

     

     

    Welcome to the CQN Cheltenham Naps competition

     

    – I hope you all manage to find some big-priced winners and that you enjoy the best four days horse racing of the year !

     

     

    RULES :

     

     

    On each day of the Cheltenham festival, pick one selection in every race

     

    (i.e. either 6 or 7 horses, per day)

     

     

    N.B. all selections should be posted on this article.

     

     

     

    POINTS :

     

     

    Race winner = 10 pts + starting price

     

    2nd place = 5pts

     

    3rd place = 3pts

     

     

    e.g. Hurricane Fly wins at 5/2 = 10 + 2.5 = 12.5 pts

     

    e.g. Champagne Fever wins at 4/1 = 10 + 4 = 14 pts

     

     

     

    WINNING NAPSTER :

     

     

    The person who accumulates the highest number of points from the four days of the Cheltenham festival – 27 races, I think.

     

     

    Our defending champion is Cathal who achieved 138 points last year, including 8 winners, so that is your target to beat !

     

     

    Can you hear the roooooaaaaarrrrr ?

     

     

     

    fleagle1888

  3. First up for the festival.

     

     

    1: 30 Vautour

     

    2 : 05 Trifolium

     

    2 : 40 Green Flag

     

    3 : 20 My Tent Or Yours

     

    4 : 00 Quevega

     

    4 : 40 Foxrock

     

    5 : 15 Festive Affair

     

     

    Best of luck ghuys

     

     

    EC67

  4. Cheers fleags

     

     

    1.30 Gilgamboa

     

    2.05 Dodging Bullets

     

    2.40 Time For Rupert

     

    3.20 The New One

     

    4.00 Quevega

     

    4.40 Beeves

     

    5.15 Manyriverstocross

     

     

    Bon chance mes amis,hh

  5. Lads, my selections for day 1 :

     

     

    1.30 Irving

     

    2.05 Valdez

     

    2.40 Wrong Turn

     

    3.20 My Tent or Yours

     

    4.00 Quevega

     

    4.40 Rogue Angel

     

    5.15 Persian Snow

     

     

    Fingers crossed… fleagle1888

  6. 1.30 josses hill

     

    2.02 rock on ruby

     

    2.40 standing ovation

     

    3.20 my tent or yours

     

    4.00 quevega

     

    4.40 suntiep

     

    5.15 art of logistics

     

     

    hope i’ve done this right ! best of luck to all.

  7. tommytwiststommyturns on

    1: 30 Vautour

     

    2 : 05 Dodging Bullets

     

    2 : 40 Shakalakaboomboom

     

    3 : 20 Our Conor

     

    4 : 00 Cailin Annamh

     

    4 : 40 Shotgun Paddy

     

    5 : 15 Present View

     

     

    This work bollox really gets in the way of some serious racing! :-(

     

     

    Anyway…Tally Ho!

     

    TTTT

  8. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    Hi,fellas.

     

     

    Many thanks once again for FLEAGLE1888’s efforts to make us all look stupid!

     

     

    Cheers,bud.

     

     

    My selections are

     

     

    WICKLOW BRAVE

     

     

    DODGING BULLETS

     

     

    HOLYWELL

     

     

    OUR CONOR

     

     

    QUEVEGA

     

     

    FOXROCK

     

     

    PENDRA

     

     

    Usual good luck to everyone bar the bookies.

     

     

    I hope to have some cash left for my trip to The Gold Cup.

  9. 16 roads - 3-IAR on

    Thanks fleagle1888.

     

     

    13:30 – Wilde Blue Yonder.

     

     

    14:05 – Trifolium.

     

     

    14:40 – Green Flag.

     

     

    15:20 – Hurricane Fly.

     

     

    16:00 – Quevega.

     

     

    16:40 – Midnight Prayer.

     

     

    17:15 – Manyriverstocross.

     

     

    Good luck everybody.

  10. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    VAUTOUR

     

     

    CHAMPAGNE FEVER

     

     

    HOLYWELL

     

     

    MY TENT OR YOURS

     

     

    COCKNEY SPARROW

     

     

    SHOTGUN PADDY

     

     

    PENDRA

     

     

    Good luck gents

     

     

     

     

    ROARRRRRRRRRR

  11. Som mes que un club on

    Wicklow Brave 1330

     

     

    Dodging Bullets 1405

     

     

    Time for Rupert 1440

     

     

    My Tent or Yours 1520

     

     

    Caillin Annamnh 1600

     

     

    Midnight Prayer 1640

     

     

    Many Rivers to Cross 1715

     

     

    Good luck to all and thanks to Fleagle1888 for organising.

  12. 1.30 Wicklow Brave

     

    2.00 Champagne Fever

     

    2.40 King Massini

     

    3.20 Our Conor

     

    4.00 Quevega

     

    4.40 Shotgun Paddy

     

    5.15 Present View

     

     

    Good luck everyone

  13. valentinesday on

    1:30 Liquidator

     

    2:05 Dodging Bullets

     

    2:40 Hadrian’s Approach

     

    3:20 My Tent Or Yours

     

    4:00 Quevaga

     

    4:40 Midnight Prayer

     

    5:15 Close House

     

     

    Good luck everyone,and thanks fleagle

  14. valentinesday on

    1:30 The Liquidator…..it should be, not wanting to get done

     

    by a technicality…….I know how all competitive yees all ur.

  15. 1.30 irving

     

    2.05 rock on ruby

     

    2.40 Hadrian,approach

     

    3.20 hurricane fly

     

    4.00 quevega

     

    4.40 foxrock

     

    5.15 Ericht

     

     

    hail hail

  16. whitedoghunch on

    1.30 gil gamboa

     

    2.05 dodging bullets

     

    2.40 Alfie Sherrin

     

    3.20 Hurricane

     

    4.00 cockney sparrow

     

    4.40 shotgun paddy

     

    5.15 art of logistics

  17. 1:30 Vatour

     

    2:05 Rock on Ruby

     

    2:40 Wrong Turn

     

    3:20 Hurricane Fly

     

    4:00 Quevega

     

    4:40 Foxrock

     

    5:15 Ericht

     

     

    Good luck bhoys, needing a few winners to help pay for the Vodka at CQTEN HH

  18. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    My picks for today. Ones to avoid for the rest of you.

     

     

    1.30 Splash of Ginge

     

    2.05 Dodging Bullets

     

    2.40 Green Flag

     

    3.20 The New One

     

    4.00 Highland Retreat

     

    4.40 Shotgun Paddy

     

    5.15 Ohio Gold

     

     

    Won’t be gambling much this week so this allows me to get involved in all the races.

     

     

    Well done organising Fleagle.

     

     

    Good luck to all punting.

     

     

    LB

  19. Hotel de Paris on

    1.30 Vautour

     

    2.05 Brick Red

     

    2.40 Tour Des Champs

     

    3.20 Our Conor

     

    4.00 Doyly Carte

     

    4.40 Herdsman

     

    5.15 Art of Logistics

     

     

    Good luck to all

     

    HH

  20. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Gilgamboa

     

     

    Champagne Fever

     

     

    Green Flag

     

     

    Hurricane Fly

     

     

    Shutthefrontdoor

     

     

    Tofino Bay

     

     

    Present View

  21. The Token Tim on

    The votes from The Token jury are as follows:

     

     

    1.30: Gilgamboa

     

    2.05: Dodging Bullets

     

    2.40: King Massini

     

    3.20: Hurricane Fly

     

    4.00: Cailin Annamh

     

    4.40: Suntiep

     

    5.15: Buywise

     

     

    Not necessarily what I have bet, but decided to pitch these in anyhoo….

     

     

    Also was going to go for an AP Fest today, but again decided against.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

     

     

    PS – just heard on C4 about a £10k ew bet on Wicklow Brave that just been put on!!

  22. Eddieinkirkmichael,

     

     

    I think you’ve mixed up your selections somewhere – I don’t see a selection in Quevega’s race, and I can’t see Tofino Bay anywhere today ?

     

     

    fleagle1888

  23. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Sorry missed first 2 races

     

    3- Holywell

     

    4-Hurricane Fly

     

    5-Cockney Sparrow

     

    6-Shotgun Paddy

     

    7-Buywise

  24. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    !!Bada Bing!!

     

     

    Probably still do better than me. 0 from 2.

     

     

    LB

  25. Day One leaderboard :

     

     

     

    PFayr 51.50

     

    Cathal 38.73

     

    TTTT 36.50

     

    twists n turns 34.73

     

    BMCUWP 33.73

     

    valentinesday 33.73

     

    Eurochamps67 32.23

     

    16 Roads – 3IAR 31.73

     

    Bada Bing 25.00

     

    Hutchybhoy 24.23

     

    green T 23.73

     

    Som mes que un club 23.00

     

    eddieinkirkmichael 23.00

     

    fleagle1888 15.73

     

    voguepunter 13.73

     

    Hotel de Paris 13.50

     

    FrankMarker 10.73

     

    LiviBhoy 8.00

     

    whitedoghunch 5.00

     

    The Token Tim 3.00

     

     

     

    Well done – and unlucky – to PF Ayr who found two winners (Vautour & Holywell), but three seconds (beaten by a head, a neck, and a neck), and a third…

     

     

    fleagle1888

  26. valentinesday on

    Outstanding punting from PFAyr , well done pal, on

     

    a very hard day…….the morra will be a walk in the

     

    park …smiley face thing!!!

     

     

    Thanks for all your hard work fleagle.

  27. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Sorry for today’s mix up mate, wont have any internet connection tomorrow probably so getting my selections in early.

     

     

    RED SHERLOCK

     

     

    LE BEC

     

     

    WHISPER

     

     

    SIRE DE GRUGY

     

     

    BALTHAZAR KING

     

     

    BALLYGLASHEEN

     

     

    KILLULTAGH VIC

  28. Here the guesses for Wednesday.

     

     

    1:30 Royal Boy

     

    2:05 Smad Place

     

    2:40 Bayan

     

    3:20 Sire de Grugy

     

    4:00 Hey Big Spender

     

    4:40 Handiwork

     

    5:15 Killutagh Vic

     

     

    Very difficult day ahead. A very poor Champion Chase IMO.

     

    Hey Big Spender to win or be nowhere and Any Currency to be placed in the 4:00.

     

     

    Best of luck everyone.

     

     

    EC67

  29. Day 2 picks from moi.

     

     

    1.30 Rathvinden

     

    2.05 Ballycasey

     

    2.40 Dunguib

     

    3.20 Wishfull Thinking

     

    4.00 Uncle Junior

     

    4.40 Ivan Grozny

     

    5.15 Namoose

     

     

    Thank oo much

  30. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Gents

     

     

    Done myself out of a new accum by being greedy and not going for Quevega…stupid ,,,,!,

     

     

    Bloody Champagne fever done me for a right good start to the meeting ….had it win VAUTOUR in a £10 db…and two £10 singles …

     

     

    Had Holywell too so wasn’t too bad …could have been a right crack in day tho

     

     

     

    Probably get cleaned out tomorrow