Last act of Ogilvie should be to call inquiry

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The hours immediately after the First Tier Tribunal reports on Rangers use of Employee Benefits Trusts, which the BBC discovered is due this month, to loan money (!) to staff what happens at Hampden will be most interesting.  SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, as a director, was legally responsible for Rangers when they started using EBTs and benefited from one himself but he has refused to resign and the SFA have declined to put him on gardening leave, pending a public investigation.

Instead, SFA chief executive, Stewart Regan, told press the Association had investigated Ogilvie’s contribution to the matter and found he had no case to answer, despite widespread scepticism that any investigation whatsoever was held into the president’s involvement in the issue.

If, despite protests from former Rangers directors that the club acted properly at all times, the FTT upholds the position of HMRC, that Rangers incorrectly failed to pay £94m tax, Ogilvie will surely walk (away), as the SFA will have to instigate disciplinary proceedings on the club which inherited Rangers membership, for deeds done while the president was in an executive position at Ibrox.

Even our new friend Charles Green would find it unpalatable that a man responsible for the subsequent penalty remains in charge of the body imposing the penalty.  We’ve said “Ogilvie will surely walk” before, of course, only to witness ever-higher standards of brass neck, but if he pauses for an hour before resigning, let it be to give those of us on the outside of the game what is needed, a full and independent inquiry into the game, how it is administered and controlled. Before the year is out we are likely to learn that our game was violated for more than a decade by people at the very top. A charlatan was expelled from the game earlier this year while the owner of a new club, without financial track record, is trying to raise millions from fans.

In any other European country, even Italy, the inquiry would already be under way.

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  1. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    !!bada bing!!

     

     

    23:41 on 16 October, 2012

     

     

     

    LoL……….ll

  2. TET

     

     

    France were all over them in last 20mins but couldn’t put ball in net.

     

     

    Spain try to run down clock (have corner but lose possession) – Ribbery delivers a peach of a cross and it’s 1-1.

     

     

    Just seen Germany v Sweden goals – 4 up and cruising = 4-4 draw.

     

     

    Your right – funny old game!

  3. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Somebody once said “football without fans is nothing”….and it was very cold in his shadow!

     

     

    T4

  4. hen1rik

     

     

    Paul will not thank you. What Tommy says is his business. If he gets on the wrong side of anyone, that’s his business and I’m sure he can handle it. But if he does, and you repeat it, you can get Paul into similar bother. Paul, not you.

  5. tommytwiststommyturns on

    hen1rik – just add “alledgedly” to that type of comment or you will get our host into bother!

     

    Considering that BDO were appointed by HMRC, then that is explosive stuff….if true.

     

     

    T4

  6. Regarding Hearts not playing 6 players has anyone asked why they is a £300k shortfall from the SPL?

     

    Does everyone know why the shortfall is there but no one reports it?

     

    How much did Hearts get for Templeton?

     

    Has it been paid?

     

    Have they received the outstanding “football debt” promised as part of the famous “five way hidden agreement”.

     

     

    Awe Naw add it to the list, “We’re gonny need a bigger blog”

  7. Ok lads point taken but why would Paul get into trouble if I’m only posting what someone else has said.

  8. Because, hypothetically, his blog would have published potentially, allegedly defamatory comments.

  9. tommytwiststommyturns on

    hen1rik – are you really that thick?! Ever heard of libel laws?

     

    And who says you wouldn’t get into trouble as well?! Knock yerself out!

     

     

    T4

  10. No, not MSM. Business media. Businesses that are well tooled up legally and are not slow to let you know if they think you have over-stepped the mark.

  11. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Tigertim

     

     

    SPL clubs got 600k last week

     

     

    Sevco payments to jamboes is up to date.

     

     

    Journalists doing players favours I reckon

  12. tommytwiststommyturns

     

    00:08 on

     

    17 October, 2012

     

    hen1rik – are you really that thick?! Ever heard of libel laws?

     

    And who says you wouldn’t get into trouble as well?! Knock yerself out!

     

     

    T4

     

     

     

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    were awe just commenting on other peoples obsevations

     

     

    its no a police state yet

     

     

    i stress yet

  13. tommytwiststommyturns

     

     

     

    00:08 on 17 October, 2012

     

     

     

    hen1rik – are you really that thick?! Ever heard of libel laws?

     

    And who says you wouldn’t get into trouble as well?! Knock yerself out!

     

     

    Oh so I’m thick now because i don’t know about libel laws

  14. tommytwiststommyturns on

    Sheik Yerbouti – aye but there’s laws there for a reason. Anyway, you still seeing Bobby Brown?! :-)

     

     

    Night all

     

    T4

  15. Awe Naw, when you say Sevco payments up to date does this include the Wallace money or just a payment for Templeton?

     

    Just read that Hearts have 46 of a playing staff!!

  16. tommytwiststommyturns on

    hen1rik – I’m thick as well, just follow C_1st’s advice if you don’t want to get P67 or yourself into any trouble. Otherwise, people might think you have an agenda!

     

     

    Night

     

    T4

  17. Sheik Yerbouti and Hen1rik

     

     

    Celtic First is repeating a rule that Paul67 has stated on many an occasion.

     

     

    Do not repeat an assertion that defames or libels someone who could sue the owner of this site for allowing it to be repeated here.

     

     

    Let Tommy say what he has to say but be careful in the way you repeat it on here.

     

     

    Tommy’s assertion is explosive. He will need to have evidence before that stands up. Until then it is libelous and to be avoided.

     

     

    Stopping you from libeling someone without evidence does not equate to a police state. Every poster on here gets some protection from that law in preventing unfounded allegations about them spreading

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Celtic_first

     

     

    And słow to let us know if they have ?

     

     

    hen1rik qaulified it a minute later.

     

     

    I think his defence would pick up on that piece of evidence posted a few minutes earlier.

     

     

    Did Paul67 not declare that we are all legally responsible for our own posts recently ? ;-)

     

     

    Anyway lets move on before I get my collar felt ;-)

     

     

    HH

  19. tommytwiststommyturns

     

    00:13 on

     

    17 October, 2012

     

    Sheik Yerbouti – aye but there’s laws there for a reason. Anyway, you still seeing Bobby Brown?! :-)

     

     

    Night all

     

    T4

     

     

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    ahaaaaha

     

     

    why u but eh

  20. Awe Naw, good comments today, I agree with you, there is a great deal of public bodies complicit in all of the delays.

     

     

    If interest is still being charges on the original amount then we are well through the £100 million due to these delays. Every month must be worth another, virtual, £1 million lost.

     

     

    Its only virtual as nothing will ever be payed.

  21. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

     

    00:16 on

     

    17 October, 2012

     

    Celtic_first

     

     

    And słow to let us know if they have ?

     

     

    hen1rik qaulified it a minute later.

     

     

    I think his defence would pick up on that piece of evidence posted a few minutes earlier.

     

     

    Did Paul67 not declare that we are all legally responsible for our own posts recently ? ;-)

     

     

    Anyway lets move on before I get my collar felt ;-)

     

     

    HH

     

     

     

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    indeed

     

     

    when have we been a police state

     

     

    when r we devoid of not having ears

     

     

    insulting.com

  22. phyllis dietrichson

     

     

    19:19 on

     

    16 October, 2012

     

    How come Paul67 is calling for newco to incur penalties for the deeds of oldco? If the SFA share had passed to Buckie Thistle we wouldn’t ask for them to carry oldco penalties.

     

     

     

    Phyllis, my view also. If we believe that Sevco are a new company and RFC died following administration and liquidation a number of weeks back then why would any deeds carried out by oldco affect newco? The FTT is going to be addressed by HMRC going after oldco board and directors. If the double contracts investigation goes against oldco then the dead rangers may find their historic achievements re-aligned to reflect the cheating. Only impact on newco would be their continued insistence that they own the history also, which we all know is nonsense.

     

     

    hail! Hail!

  23. No harm to Tommy. I love him. His explanation tonight as to how Big Vic can “accidentally” bump into Messi (“I feel bad even for saying it cause he’s a lovely boy”), who bumps into Iniesta and they both have to leave the field, while Vic avoids a card and Celtic go on to win 0-5 is complete genius.

     

     

    However, if you are BDO, you will dismiss him as an eccentric, a maverick, banned by Radio Clyde et cetera.

     

     

    CQN is a different animal.