I see a bit of debate on the blog this morning on Lord Nimmo Smith’s SPL Commission, which has retired to prepare its report. In March last year former Rangers owner, Sir David Murray, insisted no Rangers players had “side contracts”, inferring there was no case to answer. This line has not been peddled since. Instead, various excuses are offered in mitigation.
BBC’s award winning The Men Who Sold the Jerseys documentary established that a large number of players received money in connection with playing football which was not recorded with the SPL and SFA. Even Rangers counsel at the First Tier Tribunal conceded tax should have been paid on five of these players.
The real issue for Nimmo Smith is how to impose an appropriate punishment for illegal registration on this scale, which is consistent with punishments recently handed out to Spartans, Dunfermline and others, all of whom were kicked out of competitions, and fined up to a quarter of their annual income, for offences relating to single games.
For a couple of years now we have discussed the toxicity of matters surrounding the Rangers group of clubs. Actions carried out during the Murray and Whyte eras put Rangers into liquidation with vast governance issues plaguing the game and the new club which inherited their player registrations.
On the assumption the SPL Commission concludes Rangers were guilty of fielding illegally registered players in hundreds of games, what would an appropriate punishment be? Forget about stripping titles, or reclaiming prize money, both of which are merely consequences of the facts being established, not punishments.
I have total confidence Nimmo Smith will submit a report beyond reproach on whether Rangers broke the rules, but would he send for a Black Cap before handing out a sentence? I’m not so sure. Spartans and the rest might feel their 25% annual income fine for a single-match offence might become an embarrassment to some of the game’s administrators.
“Without fear or favour” was what we were promised last year. Let’s see.
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rm …..”There’s f*** all wrong with the songs ffs we will sing what we want watp.”
We rest our case…
The ole Offensive Behaviour bill will get them —- shurely
BreathNotHeld CSC
Seems everyone on here has the sevco chior all wrong today.
Roboprod typing with his hooves on hunmedia sums it up thus “About time Rangers came out and backed their fans, these songs are exactly what is needed and should be encouraged”.
Roboprod, take a bow, when did you get back from 1690?
Goal Gunners
HH
Wonder if Rob ” sectarian singing at Hampden ” Mc Lean will make a statement. He has after all extremely big ears for this or is that just when Celtic play and Nevin and him THINK they heard it..
Once scum always scum.
Those that followed Oldco, need to follow a new club. The division 3 tribute act suit their urges .
HH
Sally…..”they looked joyful bouncing up and down…….PROBABLY let us down”
We rest our case……
Stantheman, GordonJ, thanks. It’s probably clearer what was meant if you hear it rather than read it.
Can any of you fine gentlemen direct me to the SNP Government statement condemning the actions of the sevco supporters today. I can’t seem to find it anywhere.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
RE;Paul Elliot
A business deal that went wrong, text were exchanged in which Paul used the N word several times.
HH
Wonder if The Heralds Sevco writers in residence will comment.. !?
Off to twitter for a look..
Scotland does not have a sectarian problem.
Scotland has an anti Catholic problem.
notthebus,
Very bad situation for Paul to get himself into – can’t imagine what he was thinking
From the land that time forgot:
“It’s already on the BBC app. Totally co-ordinated and planned.
And no matter what a few youngsters sang we were getting ****ed over today.
When have you ever heard of a club releasing a statement during a bloody game.
Stitched up and there is far too many on here willing to bend over and take it up the **** without a hint of fight.”
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“Berwick Upon Tweed has a very large support of Glasgow Rangers FC, when I was still serving in HM Armed Forces most if not all of my fellow servicemen from Berwick supported Glasgow Rangers. My wee brother now stays in Berwick upon Tweed and was at the game today, he said there was a very large turn out from the town supporting us, and he also mentioned that many of the surrounding Border towns had busloads of Glasgow Rangers supporters at the game.
This is supporters that probably do not attend many other games throughout the season if any, they don’t think of the bigger picture and treat it as nothing but a sash bash.”
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“Rangers pandering to the taigs once again (has jim traynor all over it) This will come back and haunt us next year. I for one will not be renewing my season ticket after this pish.”
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“rangers simply can’t stamp this problem out while we continue to have an apartheid schooling system.”
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“Im not sure if any bears are actualy offended by these songs or if they just dont want us getting in trouble which is fair enough and if i hadnt watched the match i would be one of them but i cant see how that was anything other than a lot of dedicated fans singing their hearts out on a cold and crappy day with a not great Rangers performance to watch.”
Looks like PE has lost a couple of nice little earners FA and UEFA roles
Just in from work, scrolling back I see the Sevconian bigots in fine voice again.
Turn on the national radio station expecting to hear condemnation all round but I’m greeted by that old ditty Penny arcade, heralding the return of Boyd to Scottish football.
What a sick , irrepairable, despicable country this is !
so it`s the sectarian schooling that caused it, good that`s it all cleared up then.
HH
the bile chanted allows deflection from more biased refereeing…
Shocking decisions ..
How many red cards and penalties have Sevco had in their favour this season..
Please god LNS is above this but sadly I have my doubts !
HH
Probably was a squad of Chelsea bigots up to support ra berrs that did all the singing!
Jambos 1 doon
Sally’s comments are disgraceful but them I expected nothing less from the scumbag!
Look forward to greeting Bomber tomorrow at the game.
A few coments on the choir at Berwick from FF:
We could not have played into our enemies’ hands any better today if we’d tried. It isn’t right that we’re being targeted and it isn’t fair but you know what? It isn’t new, either. How some people haven’t learned to save this kind of stuff for the bus home, if they need to sing it at all, is beyond me.
I havent seen any of the game today but really concerning reading through some threads that other Rangers fans are saying its been a disgrace
Has it really been that bad today?
Can someone ****ing clarify what was sung?
Billy Boys
We are rangers
Follow follow with add ons.
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Its best to get a response out early. I suspect this is an interim statement. There is more to come with this I’m afraid.
Nothing new then
So why has it come out? And again why is it just is being singled out?
Unfortunately the whole song book has been sung
ESPN mentioned the songs at half time and said they will be contacting the police.
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No pope of Rome as well. Embarrassing stuff from our own support.
whole songbook mate.
here lies a soldier
billy boys
no pope of rome
we are rangers
follow follow with the naughtys
gonna be plenty condemnation and a few early morning door knocks.
lns verdict is my line i hope and pray that some one will finally stand up and do what is right, [i do seriously doubt this but live in hope]what sickens me is the so called authorities could they be more open in their bias and corruption when it comes to sevco,all this and we know this to be the case and yet our custodians not only accept this but are
cooperating with these same corrupt bigots to reconstruct our game?am i missing somthing and its fine to do this?
What did McCoist say then?
Good to see some of their own posts condemning it. About time.
Tam Paine@TamPayne2
As @espn apologise for the racist & sectarian chanting of Rangers fans, @ClydeSSB praise the atmosphere.Tells you all you need to know.
Speaking to ESPN, Rangers manager Ally McCoist said: “I didn’t know anything about it until I came in after the game.
“Our supporters have been nothing short of sensational home and away this season. If they were a little bit out of order today, I apologise.”
•-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-•
14:06 on 23 February, 2013
‘PFayr (and others)
it was suggested above that since is game is south of the border it falls outwith FOCUS remit.
Is this true? Might this be treated differently because it’s a different police force?’
Any time we play in England or Wales Scottish plod is very much in evidence with their surveillance equipment.
The fat clown was more than likely itching to join in.
Can soeone give a quick rundown of what’s been going on in Sevconia today?
Ra Bummer will apparently be in the stand tomorrow. Wind up opportunities are endless.
ernie lynch
from earlier
Monaghan1900
13:08 on
23 February, 2013
The Battered Bunnet
12:51 on
23 February, 2013
Berwick, being in England, sits outside the jurisdiction of the CJ(S) Act and OBaFTC Act.
I suppose folk will need to rely on the good judgment of the SFL in this matter…
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Section 10 OBaFTC Act:
“10Sections 1(1) and 6(1): offences outside Scotland
(1)As well as applying to anything done in Scotland by any person, section 1(1) also applies to anything done outside Scotland by a person who is habitually resident in Scotland.
(2)As well as applying to anything done in Scotland by any person, section 6(1) also applies to a communication made by a person from outside Scotland if the person intends the material communicated to be read, looked at, watched or listened to primarily in Scotland.
(3)Where an offence under section 1(1) or 6(1) is committed outside Scotland, the person committing the offence may be prosecuted, tried and punished for the offence—
(a)in any sheriff court district in which the person is apprehended or in custody, or
(b)in such sheriff court district as the Lord Advocate may direct,as if the offence had been committed in that district (and the offence is, for all purposes incidental to or consequential on the trial and punishment, deemed to have been committed in that district).”
“rangers simply can’t stamp this problem out while we continue to have an apartheid schooling system.”
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the genius, he is right.
end non-denominatial schools.
hahahahhahahahahah
GingerElvis:
So the Cheeky Chappie didn’t HEAR anything? Right in front of the stand, and he didn’t hear ANY of it?
Scumbag. No other word. Disgraceful.
This is the time for someone, ANYONE, at that club to take a lead and condemn these people. To pretend it’s not happening is disgusting.
Ach, it’s OK – just picked it up in the last few posts.
ESPN have apologised?
Goal Baggies
Just (almost literally) bumped into Hoops and Adam Matthews on Byres Road.
You never have a pen and bit of paper when you need one.
Yes
Goal for Ross County
ESPN learning the truth behind the adage, ” To sup with the devil, you need a long spoon”.
I suspect teir statement was due to the amount of cancellations they have had and not as a result of having their ears syringed.
They have witnessed this bile in every game they have covered without comment.
If only Sky Sports were forced into proper reporting and not the White produced tabloid guff they put out.