The Daily Record today report the contents of a document drawn up after a meeting between the SFA, the SPL, the SFL and Sevco suggesting “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
The document details that Rangers would be stripped of titles and trophies ‘won’ by the club while they fielded illegally registered players, described by the Record as “the harshest ever seen in football”.
While Rangers EBTs had been in the news for close to two years, it was Celtic Quick News who first raised the question of Rangers players being illegally registered in an article on 22 February this year. Clubs are required to note all payments players receive in connection to football with both the SFA and SPL as part of the player registration process. Failure to register EBT payments is completely separate to the legality or otherwise of how the EBT was conducted, and until we raised the issue, there was no question over player registration, and no possibility of league titles being stripped.
Two weeks after Celtic Quick News brought the matter to public attention the SPL appointed solicitors Harper MacLeod to investigate the case. The subsequent report concluded Rangers had a case to answer.
There are a number of alarming aspects to today’s Daily Record report (the newspaper appears to have the main story but don’t notice its relevance):
Sevco should not be involved in any discussion around the guilt of Rangers or any subsequent consequences. Fan power in recent weeks had shown that we are not a Banana Republic. Disciplinary issues are subject to establish procedures. Any attempt to meet with a party acting on behalf of Rangers to agree an outcome with both the investigating body and the appeals body, before an independent inquiry takes place, contaminates all who participate.
Scottish football has independent judicial procedures for dealing with serious breaches of rules. Executives from the SFA and SPL have absolutely no authority to set-aside these procedures, nor are they appropriate people to act instead of the independent procedures.
Stripping Rangers of titles and trophies if they are found guilty of cheating is not a punishment; this simply reflects the legitimate winners of past trophies. When an athlete is found to have cheated to win a medal, his punishment is not the withdrawal of the medal, which is an obvious consequence of being caught, he will also face a sporting or financial penalty, often a ban.
There seems to be no end of attempts to subvert sport in Scottish football. There must be no backroom deals, not even if they bring a barrel load of trophies to Celtic, we cannot be bought-off by bling. Independent disciplinary procedures must take place.
Although Rangers failed to register players EBTs, this matter is separate from what the Record calls “punishments for Rangers for the Employment Benefit Trust tax dodge used by Sir David Murray’s regime to pay players”.
If the First Tier Tribunal (remember that?) rules that Rangers broke tax rules the club could yet face football disciplinary procedures for failing to pay social taxes.
Last month we reported that the SFA was set to remove independent judicial oversight from the game as its existence was getting in the way of their plans for ‘Rangers’. Although the Daily Record seem to be oblivious to the fact, they appear to have found documentary evidence that this is the case.
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bournesouprecipe on 18 July, 2012 at 14:01 said:
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Aye….that reminds me…tá ár lá anois posted this last night :
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531508_10151049432473416_1106622572_n.jpg
Lennon n Mc….Mjallby -I think in years to come a space in a history book would highlight the huns much more in years to come.HH
Rangers (deceased) and title/ cups.
This is easy, any game,whether they won anything that year or not, should be recorded as a 3-0 defeat if they played an ineligible player.
Uefa should do the same.
Thats the rules…apply them.
The rest can be discussed latter
Anyone heard from the excellent CQN’r – jhilday?
Haven’t seen any of his posts for a while, if you’re out there……………….. Hail Hail
Trying to stop CQNers debating Gay Marriage would be like trying to plug a hole in a dyke.
Gazebo update……
Warning: The gazebo’s out the front of the Glasgow Hilton will not be available to those and such as those for the purposes of loafing, lording and sucking on E-Lites. They will be available to guests for ‘checking in’ bags and for rubber-gloved body searches.
off the ball from saturday.
have a listen if you get a moment, Cosgrove rips poor Archie.
Also featuring Alex Thommo Thompson.
FFM
well if it was good enough for King Billy ……
Anyone had a look at the latest Der Hun ramblings on their website Do the Bouncy?
They have an article called “54 and counting …”
The usual gutter nonsense, but instructive gutter nonsense. The article ends with a call to arms, to march on Hampden in protest.
Underneath it they have a picture, which for me sells the story, a shot of a Rangers fans demonstration the last time they were not happy with something that someone said about them or did to them or thought of them …
Right out in front is the reason they are loathed.
A fat ugly moron doing the Nazi salute.
This, right here, is why that club must be humbled further, why every crime should be brought to account. These people need to learn they are not special, to have it burned into their psyche that they are an abhorrence.
Anything less and the NewCo will be even more terrible to behold.
(But with smaller crowds haha).
Bada Bing
Protocol dictates that the ‘runner up’ is crowned the champion- the highest placed finished who played by the rules! There will be explanations in the history books about what has happened, don’t you worry about that my friend.
I’m sure the current generation of Celtic supporters will use all the tools at their disposal to remind everyone as well:)
HH
Remember its a triple roll over on the lotto the night. And if you win remember who remembered you. <:o))
H H
Teuchter ár lá on 18 July, 2012 at 14:15 said:
I prefer the final line, someone should go tell the spartans
gsu
oglach on 18 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 18 July, 2012 at 13:57 said:
Ok I’m going to test the belief of CQN gay bashers…
Would you rather be
A) Gay celtic Supporer
Or
B) a straight Hun
—-
I think I’d rather be anything than a Hun straight or otherwise.
————–
Catcher or pitcher with regards A)
nosureabootthatwancfc
JF – over on FF they are trying to arrange a mass cancellation of their Sky deals as a protest about being sent to Division 3.
What that has to do with Sky I have no idea….
King BillyGoat……The Battle of The Boing….minus 9 in-a-row….0 yrs. of non-‘achievements’….up to their ankles in black puddins’…..
…..”If ye know yer history!”…….
SS
Im tring to fone you abt ur Peepeeaye!! got 5g for you less ma 43% mind. and vat too. <o))) We're in the muney we're in the muney!!! diddilee dee didildum lah lah
RL
to think that it was only because of Sky that the SFA/SPL tried their damnedest to accomodate them by allowing them back into the SPL
trumpets
Steviebhoy66 on 18 July, 2012 at 14:20 said:
The videos I have are all 80s sorry.
Mick
I’ve had enough of the philvis-induced non-debate…….I say a wee bit give and take is required on all sides……
….okay,I’ll get my cape.
Re: gay marriage.
I am an atheist but did not the Christian God create (wo)Mankind in his/her own image?
If so? Then sexuality should not be an issue in Christian marriage!
Also.
Do you practicing Christians believe and follow all aspects of the 2000 year old scriptures?
Or is it pick and mix?
Ditch the bad bits but follow the bits that suit you , just like thems ditching the debt but retaining the history
DBBIA/ PFAyr,
Ah. Fair points. King Billy was merely developping upon the tactical nous of Alexander the Great. My advice to Moisty still stands then. Get the cluggers to offload their sexual aggression with each other pre-match and they will suddenly turn into the Barca of SFL3.
miki-it was ole Gordon J that set this particular ball rollin’.
He’d start a fight in an empty bhlog.
I actually think perversely .. The NewcoHuns could be a major TV coup ( that’s television not Transvestite) in the 3 rd division. If they go on a sustained winning streak every Hun in the world would subscribe… If they don’t every other fan in Scotland would subscribe..
I think this could be a go-er?
a friend of mine was given a painting by Philip Lardner
Philip was a Tory Party candidate and is/was (?) a freemason
after expressing his opinion re homosexuality, he was intolerantly binned following pressure from the well-financed pro-gay lobby – he had been brave in his expression and a faithful hardworking candidate for the local people, agree or disagree with his politics
he was then hounded out of any position of favour and became public enemy number one, as far as any reputation was concerned and what was initially a local issue was passed “up the chain” to David Cameron and hence Philip was seen as an “embarrassment” and “had to go”
the friend of mine heard about this and arranged to meet him
he was the only one who stepped forward to offer any support
my friend discussed with him over a period of time about a whole range of topics, both gained a mutual respect
months later, as a thankyou, Philip gave my friend one of his paintings, knowing he was a Celtic fan
the painting is of CELTIC PARK, a beauty and it hangs nicely in my front room…
here it is…
http://twitpic.com/a8zk50/full
PF Ayr – Precisely. I fail to see what this is designed to achieve…although with their recent track records in “protests” this will result in 6 lost Sky subscriptions
miki..,
this is not a philvis induced debate.
can you tell me if there is an existing law, which specifically bans same sex marriage
canamalar,
I think the current legislation is the Marriage (Scotland) Act 1977. It lists a number of reasons that are legal impediments to marriage – one of the parties being already married, being under 16, etc. It also specifies “both parties are of the same sex” would make a marriage illegal.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes on 18 July, 2012 at 14:25:
“Anyone know what the FF view is on gay marriage rights?”
I think Scottish football’s answer to Divine (Mark Dingwall) is totally in favour of gay marriage.
Season Tickets – Doing Well
ole Gazebo CSC
DontPatmadug on 18 July, 2012 at 14:34 said:
oglach on 18 July, 2012 at 13:59 said:
CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on 18 July, 2012 at 13:57 said:
Ok I’m going to test the belief of CQN gay bashers…
Would you rather be
A) Gay celtic Supporer
Or
B) a straight Hun
—-
I think I’d rather be anything than a Hun straight or otherwise.
————–
Catcher or pitcher with regards A)
nosureabootthatwancfc
—–
Emm can’t I just be a asexual? 1% of people in the UK identify themselves as asexual. Asexuality is described as an orientation, unlike celibacy which is a choice.
WedontdosexCSC
RL
most of them will have those dodgy “chipped” boxes anyway :¬))
James Forrest is Neil Lennon! We are ALL Neil Lennon! on 18 July, 2012 at 14:32
You’re perfectly correct.
That’s why l say just apply the rules ineligible player on the park 3-0 defeat. Anything less is cheating by what ever football authority is responsible for that match whether it is the SFA SFL SPL UEFA OR FIFA .
First things first 3-0 defeats recorded. Who gets what throphy money decided later. Lets slap in right into these cheating gits .
TC,
get some prints made up and raffle them, I’m sure you could think of a good cause to help :o)
hail hail
good luck to the u16s
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=2808
Anybody fancy talking about the fitba !!
Heard there’s talk of somebody coming in over weekend anybody heard ? Could it be the centre half we need ?
PF Ayr – somebody has explained why they are doing it now. Spite. They want Sky to pull out of Scottish Football. Although why Sky receiving a few semi literate emails containing expletives and veiled threats with a subscription cancellation will have the effect of them ripping up a TV deal and having to find something else to fill that schedule slot is well beyond my ken.
It is nae wonder they are being liquidated. Cretins.
Is there anybody or any company in the western hemisphere that the huns are not boycotting ?
What the huns don’t realise is their are more anti-huns paying for Sky than huns.
stupid…..