I’ve spoken to a few Rangers fans over recent months, the base line of acceptability has been redrawn many times. If you read back on what was presented as reality on 13 February, when Craig Whyte announced that while it was “business as usual” he applied to the court for a 10 day period to appoint an administrator.
Back then, administration was abhorrent, but suggestions of liquidation were regarded as outrageous. On 22 February Celtic Quick News asked questions about Improper Registration of Football players, was it possible that Rangers results would have to be re-written as 3-0 defeats for a decade or more?
In March Rangers director (still, I believe) Dave King sent out a new baseline, liquidation was inevitable but there was no question that titles would be taken off Rangers. Even this concession to liquidation was disputed by the Blue Knight and Duff and Phelps. Publicly, both still hold to this line, although Duff and Phelps use some creative ideas to get there.
Most now know that liquidation is inevitable. A few understand that the SPL inquiry into player registration is likely to result in five or more league titles being reallocated to Celtic, but I don’t hear anyone accepting the reality of the situation.
Rangers don’t have a buyer, primarily as the administrators don’t have a stadium they can sell. Even if they try to remain in administration for next season, Ticketus own the majority of their income. It will cost countless millions to pull a deal together, much more than the £11.2m Bill Miller considered putting on the table, and no one is coming up with that kind of money.
In the unlikely event these problems are resolved, whatever club emerged would have to deal with the fallout from players refusing to join a Newco and becoming free agents, football fines debts from Oldco, SFA penalties, Newco penalties if preferential treatment is provided in order to get them into a higher league, and SPL penalties for Improper Registration of Players.
There are two simple solutions. Form a new club, ask to share Firhill or Love St – or better still, rent Cathkin Park (reset ambition for Rangers as the new Third Lanark), and apply for entry to the Scottish Football League. Alternatively, co-opt a lower league club, maybe Airdrie United could help, rename it and spend however many years as it takes trying to acquire whatever parts of Ibrox survives liquidation.
This is a controlled and predictable way forward, a concept not delivered by Duff and Phelps, totally in the control of whoever wants to harvest fallout from the demise of the Rangers brand.
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jude2005 – :-))))))
Is it the one with the bird in the right hand?
AoW
Like it….
Knoxy2000
My wife used to play this to my son when he in hospital nothing as serious as Oscar has. He’s a man now with 2 kids. Mrs j had it played at his wedding. Hope you will be able to do the same someday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MODq81_cDKI
‘There are noneso blind as those who WILL not see…’
AoW
The very one.!!
Night U All
Iain Anderson playing The Galway Girl on radio Scotland just now. I think his a Tim!!!
Night U All Mk11
jude2005 – nice touch. Yer missus sounds mighty fine!
Knoxy2000 – I don’t know you but have seen many kind thoughts towards Oscar. I wish to add my own and hope things work out for him.
HH
rangers are not worth trying to save unless they are in top flight thats
the bottom line and thats why most think they will be back with very little punishment, think about it why would they want them back if they have to endure years of mediocrity and ridicule, the establishment could not handle that jock stein
type era again.
should add especially with neil as manager.
Maybe the donut will do the right thing. Trust the Celtic bored..not a good track record really with the exception of Fergus. Check out the photo 2 down.
That’s how the last Desmond in the Donut factory treated the greatest Celt of all time!
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Desmond+White
Margaret McGill – Fair enough criticising the board at that time, but not fair – in view of the current happenings – to tar the present board with the same brush.
As you have stated, the Bunnet started it all for us and the current incumbents have continued the theme. Where would you rather be be? Chasing the Huns into oblivion or chasing trophies?
As for greatest Celt of all time, I thought that was the Jink-meister not the Jock-meister! ;-)
HH
Great to see the French people choosing progress over austerity. I hope the Greeks too will be allowed to get their chosen socialist government and are not further punished for a problem that was of the “markets” making, not their own.
I hope too that scotland chooses progress over conservatism for as they say in america it is better to be any kind of progressive than any kind of regressive GOP fool, for if one is not progress and taking on board new ideas then one is doing the opposite of progressing, one is regressing.
Art of War on 10 May, 2012 at 00:52 said:
Apparently there were 22 trophies Celtic shouldnt have bothered showing up for.
I am just saying no Newco unless they pay Oldco’s bills. Not at any cost just the real cost for the sake of sporting integrity otherwise Celtic should not participate in such an obviously rigged Swindlers Parody League (SPL). Why dont the others and Celtic do the same we can call it Newco’s 11 and Neil can play Brad Pitt.
Various sources on twitter have been saying that Mr Souness is part of the new consortium ready to buy RFC(IA). Well how much fun will this be for us happy Timmies? A club with no money and diminishing revenue streams over the coming seasons as their fans desert the once proud institution, formerly known as Glasgow Rangers.
It’s hard to imagine any group of serious businessmen investing money into RFC(IA). It’s even harder to imagine Souness doing so as he knows only too well the financial shenanigans involved to make RFC(IA) a viable proposition both competitively and in a business sense.
What can they possibly gain now and hope to gain in the future? Short term they could be lauded as saviours, even after administration, as the MSN will pull out all the stops for the prodigal son and his friends. Once reality bites next season, if they remain in the SPL that is when financial Armageddon will bite hard. The fans will wont/demand investment in the playing staff, not cut price journeymen or cheap buys from England’s lower leagues. No they will want the traditional marquee signings, when it doesn’t happen and the team under the leadership of the worst RFC(IA) manager in its current history suffer defeats from middle of the road SPL teams all hell will break loose among the bears. No amount of positive reporting from the laptop loyal will be able to hide the fact that this is not what was promised when Souness came to their rescue.
I personally think that whoever takes over will prefer a div3 start. The finances don’t stretch to being competitive in the SPL and it will allow them to claim the moral high ground. Fighting their way through the divisions back to where they belong at the top of the SPL. This is how they will portray it, poor us, no one likes us. Each title win will be celebrated as if they just won the European Cup, it will allow them to say to the world, we are on our way back and we will be better than before.
To those that think that the fans will desert them, think again and look at those teams like Hibs whose crowds increased after relegation. Fans want to watch a winning team. %-10yr old children going along with their parents will only know that the team they are watching is a winning team, a great family day out, nothing better than seeing your team win, regardless of the opposition. The WATP myth will be reinforced by this.
Unfortunately, for this new club, to guarantee this success they will have forgo investing in youth as that will be too risky a strategy for the new owners. When in 3 yrs. they do remerge into the SPL they will notice that most of the clubs are playing with a mixture of home grown young talent and some older Scottish pros. This was forced on them due to a small downturn in revenue some seasons before when Scottish football got a wakeup call to the reality of financial mismanagement. With luck these teams will be managed by younger forward thinking managers who want to play attractive attacking football that will be alien to their own manager who served under Wattle and who had the worst ever record for a RFC(IA) manager.
Of course the above is little more than fantasy but who would really argue it couldn’t happen?
Margret whilst your on, I would like to fill you in one thing, that is Summa of Sammi = Kojo I am fairly sure.
There is another “summerofsammaras” I think or something similar, that one is not kojo. I can’t believe it took me so long to twig that the singing detective and “kollie” were both him….. And he is not worth talking to or entertaining until he gives up his neo nazi views. I doubt he will though. But redemption is there for us all…
Antifa on 10 May, 2012 at 01:00 said:
Not too sure. I think Kojo is on US time and Summa of Sammi is on Oz time. I may be wrong.
Antifa – heeeellllllllloooooooooooo!
Right wing/fascist France.
Dawn of the Dead in Greece – it wasn’t austerities fault it was the blacks/jews/pakis etc…….
Alright it’s called Golden Dawn in Greece. The head dude was on TV with a carved eagle seegul on his desk. He wore black and he spoke in a clipped accent (alright I made that up).
Yeah real progress on the world stage.
I’ll have a pint of your mind numbing numpty lager.
Jeezo….
ps. Summa of Sammi will be mightily unimpressed with the reference to him and Kojo being the one and same.
I believe that Summa was/is still in Scotland this last week!
HH
Margaret McGill – don’t agree with the Brad Pitt bit but agree that they have to pay all outstanding bills to not just the clubs but all creditors. Even the face-painter whom they owe £28.
Art of War on 10 May, 2012 at 01:13 said:
…and if they dont ?
Margaret McGill on 10 May, 2012 at 01:03 said:
You`re right.
I had the pleasure of meeting “Summa” in the Melbourne C.S.C.
I seem to remember being at CP for a game against them shortly after the death of Desmond White. I was about 13 or 14 at the time. I travelled on rhe 46 bus from Cranhill, as usual, getting off at Duke Street for the short walk to the Celtic end.
This game sticks in my memory for a number of reasons. Whilst on the bus a group of huns got on the bus in Carntyne, one of their number was wearing a balaclava and had a king billy motif sewed onto the back of his strip.
There were a number of Celtic fans on the bus, most wearing colours but not me, experiece had taught me to keep my scsrve hidden until I was at the ground. Anyway as the bus approached the stop near the Louden, the balaclava attired hun pulled out a knife and held it to the throat of a young Celtic fan and asked him to predict the score.
I remember the fear on his face when he replied that he hoped it would be a good game and the better team won. The hun and entourage left the bus to the screams of fellow passengers but luckily no one was hurt.
Another reason why i remember this particular game, was the banner in the Rangers end that read, Desmond White sucks c*** in hell”.
Up until that game i was completly indifferent to Rangers.
Let them die.
AoW – Agreed. Summa may be many things but Kojo he ain’t.
Art of War on 10 May, 2012 at 01:06 said:
Why the nastiness towards antifa? He’s a Tim. Kojo’s a Tim and I dont like his politics..or have I misunderstood you?
Antifa on 10 May, 2012 at 00:57 said:
Great to see the French people choosing progress over austerity. I hope the Greeks too will be allowed to get their chosen socialist government and are not further punished for a problem that was of the “markets” making, not their own.
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Correct me if I’m wrong,but haven’t the Socialist Party held power in Greece for most of the last forty years?
Bobby
No correction required.
Paying tax in Greece was optional.
Chickens currently hame and roosting.
Margaret McGill – nastiness? Just making a point. Our European neighbours are moving to an EXTREME right government and antifa thinks that this is a good thing??????
Poverty is coming into play and fascist groups are having a field day. Who is to blame? According to them it’s your neighbour who is black/yellow/brown. NOT the bankers, not the governments but those insidious hard working individuals who are taking THEIR jobs.
So hell yeh I will point this out and if that makes me sound like Mr Nasty then so be it!
What I don’t get is why you thought that I was having a go at someone regarding politics based on who they support. I didn’t question antifa’s allegiance to any club!
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 10 May, 2012 at 01:28 said:
Your right! It’s all to do with taxes. When in Greece a few years ago I could hardly use my credit card because that leaves an audit trail and hence one has to pay taxes on the transaction. The contempt you get for trying to use a credit card in Greece is amazing. With it all being cash as much as possible and with the criminal element its easier to launder earnings. Biggest problem in all the Mediterranean countries is tax collection but they all want the benefits that taxes bring. However, try dodging taxes in Germany, France and UK for example and see what happens..except of course in Scotland and you are Rangers!
Art of War on 10 May, 2012 at 01:30 said:
ok. But be careful. Remember the rules. I got a red once for attacking Kojo ..a yellow too I think.
Antifa on 10 May, 2012 at 01:00 said:
You’re badly mistaken re Summa.
I’ve had the pleasure of his company and can assure you he’s neither racist or nazi. He is certainly not Kojo.
I would respectfully suggest you refrain from hurling the insults to fellow blog members, they are well wide of the mark in this instance.
Hope you’re well.
hh
bjmac
Margaret McGill on 10 May, 2012 at 01:35 said:
Ah, the ol’ double bluff to try and put us off the scent of you being the one and only Kojo.
Antifa will be on to you, he can’t be fooled that easily.
hh
Margaret McGill – no worries and thanks! :-) How many posts were you banned for or were you forced to lurk?
Modern ‘socialist’ parties are that in name only. They moved too far right in order to keep up with the lurch to the right of conservatives under the Reagan/Thatcher era. They essentially became Tory Lite.
Anyway,Capitalism is almost as bust as RFCIA.
Also The Secret & Hermetic Order of The Golden Dawn was Alesteir Crowley’s mob……libertarian fascists. Anyone calling their political party ‘Golden Dawn’ is sending out a dark message.
Lecture Over! HH !
bjmac – ;-)))) Indeed!
Still laughin
“The threat of people acting in their own enlightened and rational self-interest strikes bureaucrats, politicians and social workers as ominous and dangerous.” – W. G. Hill
“The media I’ve had a lot to do with is lazy. We fed them and they ate it every day.” – Michael Deaver – Former top aide to President Reagan
The world we now all live in.
Maggie
I am off to bed now but it is my firm belief that Antifa is a right winger (most likely TSD or Chris Torey) posting simplistic and erroneous left wing assertions as an undermining tactic.
Fair enough, I suppose, on the internet.
I just wish he was funnier in doing it.
Goodnight all!
Margaret –
So one of the reasons for not trusting Dermot Desmond is that he has the same forename as another former Celtic director, and HE wasn’t to be trusted.
I will never again read my niece Winnie the Pooh. She has the same middle name as Jack the Ripper.