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One of the great tactics of a successful player trading model is to move on those who don’t fit into your plans at a profit.  This is easy for top clubs in England, who hoard talent from an early age, loan players out somewhere downstream (at a decent fee) before eventually selling them on.

This is more difficult for Celtic.  If a player isn’t cutting it at the Scottish Premiership, where can we find a potentially lucrative market downstream from us?

Mikey Johnston (24) is three appearances into his loan at West Brom, who are in the English Championship playoff places.  He opened the scoring against midtable Cardiff on Tuesday and is already attracting positive reviews.

West Brom are still dealing with the consequences of relegation from the Premiership three years ago and haven’t spent a pound on a permanent signing this season.  They are likely to remain in the playoffs until the end of the season and they are also being pursued by a new potential owner.  Either scenario could lead to a significant spend this coming summer.

Even if West Brom don’t escape their ligature, others in the Championship will be flush with funds this summer.  This is our ‘downstream’.  If Mikey can thrive there, others will too.  Small clubs try to solicit relationships with larger outfits.  Building relationships with smaller clubs in a wealthier league, like the Championship, can work work for Celtic.

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  1. YogiHughes on

    Almore,

     

     

    Do you knew who’ll be playing? Obviously not the originals. I hope you enjoy it- I’m sure you will.

  7. Celtic Mac on

    an tearmann

     

     

    There you go AT!

     

    Hope Tontine Tim reads both those pieces of work.

     

    Gives us a better idea of the extent to which Hibernian played in our founding.

     

    Should be compulsory reading for all Celtic supporters! Hibees too

     

    And Dougray Scott….

  8. Saint Stivs on

    Brother Walfrid and Brother Dorotheus had already been hosting charitable football matches to support the Penny Dinner Scheme, which they operated within The Poor Children’s Dinner and Breakfast Tables (at St Mary’s and Sacred Heart schools). A mark of the problematic overgrowth of the scheme was that Sacred Heart provided 48,500 dinners and 1,150 breakfasts in its debut year. Added to this huge level of service was the fact that the school capacity had quadrupled and was to educate over 1,200 pupils for the school year of 1886. Similarly, St Mary’s started the first six months of 1886 by serving 26,421 meals to students, 17,707 of which were free of charge. Rather than make the suggested donation of a penny compulsory, the decision was made to reach out to other aspects of social assistance.

  9. Saint Stivs on

    Another team of note at this time was Western Hibernians, who played in exhibition matches and were also instituted to The Poor Children’s Dinner and Breakfast Tables. The Western Hibernians donned white shirts, black shorts and green and black hooped socks. In an exhibition match in February 1888, they fielded no fewer than seven of the 11 players who would play in Celtic’s first match three months later!

  10. Saint Stivs on

    The second notable difference between the early ideals of Celtic and Hibernian concerned politics. Fans of both clubs were vocal supporters of Irish Home Rule, but there was a difference among the respective committees.

     

     

     

    Celtic were very publicly supportive of Irish Home Rule. A wanted IRB man (Pat Welsh) was among the founding fathers, convicted Republican Michael Davitt was named as the club’s Patron, and almost every one of the founders was involved in Irish political matters to some degree. In addition to that unified approach, an official Celtic delegation was the only sporting representative(s) at the Irish Race Convention in Dublin, which was designed to plot a way towards Home Rule.

     

     

    At Hibernian, there was a split regarding the matter of Ireland’s quest for freedom. In 1890, many of the players and officials took part in political meetings and protests during the Home Rule campaign. However, this brought them into conflict with Canon Hannan and the parish church. Consequently, the club was split and committee members were forced to resign. The issues, thought to be centred around the clergy’s fear of matters becoming violent, played a part in the club’s demise.

     

     

    As an aside, Hibs’ Irish political claim to fame is undoubtedly that James Connolly was a passionate supporter of their club. The iconic Internationalist, Socialist, and Easter Rising leader hailed from the Cowgate. Hibbies should be proud to call him one of their own.

  14. Tontine Tim on

    CELTIC MAC on 15TH FEBRUARY 2024 11:58 PM

     

    an tearmann

     

     

    There you go AT! Hope Tontine Tim reads both those pieces of work. Gives us a better idea of the extent to which Hibernian played in our founding. Should be compulsory reading for all Celtic supporters! Hibees too And Dougray Scott….

     

     

    *actually, I had read them before and was aware of their influence on us, the only difference I believe was their insistence on all their players making their Easter Duties, not so us as we didnae want to limit ourselves.

  15. Greenpinata on

    I cannot argue with history. As always it is there , we cannot change it but we can learn from it.

     

     

    Very interesting the shared history with Hibernian FC.

     

     

    But again as in many things , has the past got any relevance to todays life. ?

     

     

    From my own experiences I do not buy in any love in with Hibs or their supporters.

     

     

    I remember the absolute thuggery, hatred and violence the Hibs fans showed us.

     

    The violence I witnessed was amoung the worst I have seen from any supporters. They seemed to really hate us.

     

     

    I cannot make any distinction or allowance for a bottle over the napper, because they wear a grean scarf and have a similar history to us.

     

     

    F@ ck them.

  16. dessybhoy on

    From tillio’s comments he was signed for 5years with an injury , the player thought it was 1 week injury it was 3 months how did he pass a medical and who carried it out?

     

    Total waste of financial resources.

  19. !!Bada Bing!! on

    A pal was working with Dougray Scott last year,said he was a really good guy……no time for the deed team….

  20. ziggydoc1 on

    BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 15TH FEBRUARY 2024 10:28 PM

     

    Ziggydoc1 – cheers.

     

     

    Yes, Czech Republic coefficient close to Scotland and getting closer.

     

     

    We need their three remaining teams papped oot ….

     

     

     

    … plus we could do with Sevco picking up some more points and play an extra round.

     

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    I see the huns play in three weeks time with the second leg a week later. A favourable draw might see them get to the next stage. As much as I don’t want that to happen, I’ll take the coefficient assistance and extra games, as a positive.

  22. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Ziggydoc1 – bang on (IMHO).

     

     

    The (unpalatable to some) truth is that Sevco are going to win matches, make money from certain channels (not overall) and …once in a while … win silverware.

     

     

    In this instance, Paul the rapscallion’s “coefficient monkeys” jibe comes right into play.

     

     

    Sevco advancing to the next round, making some dough for themselves, gaining coefficient points, and being forced to play four TOUGH games across six weeks … slap bang in the middle of the run in … is good for us.

  24. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    St Stivs last night – brilliant posts.

     

     

    Respect to you and Celtic Star.

     

     

    The numbers of meals served stats are truly humbling.

  30. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    Killie are the 3rd best team in Scotland, when they play at home.

     

     

    Away from home they are 8th best but they have recruited well- decent big defenders in Mayo & Findlay and attacking power with Van Veen, Vassell and Danny Armstrong. T

     

     

    hey are weaker in midfield so they tend to by pass it and get it to Armstrong as main creator.

     

     

    Away from home they score less than 1 goal per game but concede around 1.2 goals on average.

     

     

    It may not be very entertaining or a game where we establish a healthy early lead so my best guess at the result would be

     

     

     

    5 nil to the Celts

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