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The jockeying for cash between English footballs two cartels is quite a sight.  The English Football League (EFL) currently earn just north of £500m a year in handouts from the Premier League (PL).  They want that figure to increase to around £900m, while enough Premier League clubs are reluctant to share more of the money they create with those down the food chain.

The football model in England is broken (not that we are a perfect example).  The PL is one of the world’s premier sporting brands.  The EFL is one of the world’s wealthiest football league structures, but the disparity between their wealth and those above them make the gap precipitous for clubs having to deal with relegation.

The PL’s decision to decline the EFL’s offer to pay them £900m a year made your Conservative government angry, apparently.  Yesterday, in stepped a prime minister in trouble and looking for a populist cause to show you he understands real people.  Maybe I’m not real people but it’s not having the desired effect on me.

The PL and the EFL operate cartels inside the UK to the economic exclusion of Scottish clubs.  This has a very real economic impact on the wider economy.  Celtic would bring in around £400m more to the Glasgow economy each year, if they were able to compete with the rest of the UK.

The last time the EFL wanted leverage in their negotiations with the PL they threatened to offer Celtic and Newco a place in their league, introducing two clubs with prospects of promotion to the Premier League itself.  The threat worked, the PL folded and the UK football market remained a fractured set of cartels.

If the government wants to genuinely protect the interests of disenfranchised clubs and supporters, breaking these cartels should be top of their agenda.  Unfortunately, they don’t have the vision or intellect to act properly.

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  1. Melvin Udall on

    TOM MCLAUGHLIN on 20TH MARCH 2024 7:18 PM

     

    MELVIN UDALL

     

     

    No worries. That’s just a bucket email I rarely use except for contacts like CQN.

     

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    Nice one!

     

    Cheers Tom.

     

    I’ll be in touch. 😃👍

  3. Timbhoy163 on

    Bigrailroadblues thanks I thought I heard Chris McKay saying after the AGM up in the Celtic TV box that the stadium requires some work to be done in it .

  4. Turkeybhoy on

    Strange that they have opted to play the Dundee game 3 days after we face them.Are the jitters beginning to show?.They have to be thinking that we will take 3 points off Livi,themselves with the much more difficult game against a fired up Hibs.Even if both win,we still go to Ibrox top.A draw would see us leave top.Another slog of 2 terrible places to go before the split,Dundee,R. County,both with lots to play for.Celtic Park awaiting them.

     

    Me,if I was as confident as the Media makes him out to be,would most certainly have wished to be taking on Celtic, at home, top of the table.

     

    Might be only wishful thinking,we will see.

  9. Burnley78 on

    Tom Mc

     

     

    Thanks for that. Hopefully a day for celebration. I genuinely think it’s a free hit for us. All the pressure on them this time. Even more so if Hibs can sneak something at Ibrox. They are due it but just realised they could be missing their best player of recent weeks who may be suspended after his sending off in the cup.

  10. Greenpinata on

    Re : Making CQN user friendly. Surely an aspiration we can all agree on.

     

     

    For example: The amount of times it is required to log on. For those who do not have an auto facility this must be a reoccurring nightmare.

     

     

    HH.

  11. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    I have mixed feelings about Motherwell writing to the SFA about the hand ball rule.

     

     

    On one hand they can say “look, it’s not only Celtic who befall these dubious decisions”.

     

     

    On the other I’m hoping it’s the didi teams realising they suffer the fall out from biased refereeing – dubious decisions against Celtic set a precedent that refs then adhere to so that their decisions against Celtic are not perceived as bias.

  12. Parkheadcumsalford on

    Wasn’t there talk a couple of years ago of Celtic buying Carlisle as a backdoor way of getting into the PL eventually. I would be all for that, as a way of both realising our potential and leaving this bigotted league behind.

  13. scullybhoy on

    Parkheadcumsalford on 20th March 2024 9:28 pm

     

     

    Wasn’t there talk a couple of years ago of Celtic buying Carlisle as a backdoor way of getting into the PL eventually. I would be all for that, as a way of both realising our potential and leaving this bigotted league behind.

     

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    I would be all for that as well. Saw an article about the new Everton stadium, it is breathtaking. Having said that, the top seats are £25,000 a season.

  14. Majestic Hartson on

    I’m not for joining the EPL. I’d be more interested in trying to spread the wealth in Scottish football – an unpopular opinion I know.

     

     

    If we joined the EPL I think it would open the doors to the European super league, and we wouldn’t be in the top league there initially. And the super league would try and be as closed a shop as possible, with all the money going to the teams at the top.

     

     

    I prefer the excitement of these games being special occasions, not the norm.

     

     

    So if there’s a vote, put me down as a no 👍

  16. BelmontBrian on

    Evening all.

     

     

    A tune that I think should be heeded today.

     

     

    Heaven 17 – (We Don’t Need This) Fascist Groove Thang

     

     

    https://youtu.be/uWs1-2foKoo?si=q4_adEpcJH8AV2qU

     

     

    Nite y’all

     

     

    Stay classy.

     

     

    Tell your friends, they’ll like it.

     

     

    It’s good to be a Tim.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    Brian.

     

     

    PS, getting my cataract dealt with me tomorrow.

     

     

    Getting old can be a pain in the arse. :)

  21. Peterprincipal on

    The problem with Celtic ideology that you all love is that I see nothing new in 50 years. No creativity, No imagination. Only consumer automatons like yourselves being spoon fed in an infant’s highchair. The CQN highlight of the week is that you can flip your bigoted spoon of slop onto a strapped in hun infant in another high chair. Thats the OF today.

  23. !!Bada Bing!! on

    TIMBHOY163 on 20TH MARCH 2024 6:37 PM

     

    Hi bhoys do any of you know if there is to be renavations to be carried out on Celtic Park,personally it looks on the outside to be badly in need of a complete paint job ,I don’t think it’s had a makeover since Celtic Park was upgraded.

     

     

    I actually noticed on Saturday that the ‘new’ banners /tarpaulin,were so bad ,you couldn’t actually see the wording or pictures on them……the last ones were brilliant by comparison……have a look Bhoys next time you are there.

  24. Drambowiecelt on

    @Melvin…..Reading back…..Catchup…3.1 you done it again……

     

    You are taking oor Big j to the wire,…lol.

     

    Most surprising post? Young T. Mc..posts the blues…..Brill

     

    S.S. A.youngster…. Top Mhan…

     

    Ziggy1…….you have been about young man

  29. An Tearmann on

    Belmont Brian

     

     

    All the best later today with the cataracts.

     

    Get back on wi some tunes soon.

     

     

    Majestic Hartson.

     

    I am with you re becoming a club of the english league.We are a scottish club,having played here for all our continious history.all our ups and downs are recorded here and of course Europe.

     

     

    I do think things will change in Europe for eg,look how the CL evolved from its 1st season with 8 clubs to this years of 32 last year,

     

    I think the new improved CL will grow in the coming years,both in monies received and its game structure(next yr teams play each other once,that could grow to twice which could mean 14 games(H&A) which could mean for Celtic a change in budgetting strategy if we qualified regularly.

     

    I suppose MH its a different “if” but imo more real than the persistent yearning for something that is not going to happen,ie entry to EPL,

     

    Look whats occurring in England at moment with EPL and championship,its a power struggle in a very traditional and conservative league structure,those clubs Div2 to 4 are not turkeys votin for christmas,the want more redistribution of wealth,they dont want other clubs(us) vying for a cut.

     

    And anyway Uefa wont allow us,Why not dutch,belgian clubs for example to go to epl and other clubs outside england apply if we do

     

     

    Its a sqirrel,think of couple of years of no success.its culturally not goin happen.

     

     

    See what happens

     

     

    HH

  30. Aipple on

    BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL re: Howe must cry himself to sleep

     

     

    I only just stopped seeing Howe video pop-ups on here. Always Pep now. Maybe he isn’t coming as well?

  36. David66 on

    Good morning all from a dry at the moment but wet underfoot 5 degree Garngad.

     

     

    BB – Good luck today.

     

     

    BRRB – Good luck also on your grand tour of every pub in Glasgow and beyond.

     

     

    Big Jimmy – Hope you are well Big man.

     

     

    D. :)

  37. Chairbhoy on

    Good Morning Fholks – A Grand Day To Be A Tim

     

     

    Motherwell issued a very telling statement on VAR yesterday…

     

     

    https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2024/03/20/statement-on-var-decision-against-aberdeen/

     

     

    The salient points Motherwell raise is not too dissimilar to the points that Brendan Rodgers made after the Tynecastle match.

     

     

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mK7c5OJbP7k

     

     

    Of course Brendan has been charged by the SFA for his comments, unlikely a similar charge will be levied at Motherwell FC.

     

     

    So the SFA charges come down to format and semantics – not substance, how very appt.

     

     

    Under the circumstances it is worth re-visiting the IFAB VAR protocol…

     

     

    Principles

     

     

    The use of VARs in football matches is based on a number of principles, all of which must apply in every match using VARs.

     

     

    1. A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to:

     

     

    a. Goal/no goal

     

     

    b. Penalty/no penalty

     

     

    c. Direct red card (not second yellow card/caution)

     

     

    d. Mistaken identity (when the referee cautions or sends off the wrong player of the offending team)

     

     

    2. The referee must always make a decision, i.e. the referee is not permitted to give ‘no decision’ and then use the VAR to make the decision; a decision to allow play to continue after an alleged offence can be reviewed.

     

     

    3. The original decision given by the referee will not be changed unless the video review clearly shows that the decision was a ‘clear and obvious error’.

     

     

    4. Only the referee can initiate a ‘review’; the VAR (and other match officials) can only recommend a ‘review’ to the referee.

     

     

    5. The final decision is always taken by the referee, either based on information from the VAR or after the referee has undertaken an ‘on-field review’ (OFR)….

     

     

    https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#principles

     

     

    The bold lettering is that of the IFAB and are redlines in the key principles of VAR implementation.

     

     

    Going back to the Brendan Rodgers post match interview, Brendan is completely justified in his criticism of the way VAR was used during the game.

     

     

    Of course the important aspects of the game where the VAR who “may assist the referee” include…

     

     

    b. Penalty/no penalty

     

     

    c. Direct red card

     

     

    Yet “ONLY in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’”

     

     

    Now I’ve capitalised ONLY, as it is a key word, the IFAB bold words are obviously key as well.

     

     

    Firstly it is clear the match referee did not miss the incidents, he issued a yellow card to Yang for his “high boot”.

     

     

    At Tomoki’s penalty, he was five metres away looking straight at the incident.

     

     

    So no VAR intervention there.

     

     

    The yellow card was subjective and the penalty incident was subjective, so as long as the referee seen them and dealt with them, there is absolutely no reason for VAR to get involved.

     

     

    Was there an error by the match referee with those calls, no, they were dealt with on the field of play, yet VAR has NO grounds to get involved unless there was an error (which there wasn’t) further, that “error”, needs to be ‘clear and obvious’, and the controversial nature of the VAR’s intervention clearly shows that’s not the case.

     

     

    A definite straight red card

     

     

    A stonewall penalty

     

     

    Is the only time that a VAR can assist a match referee in these incidents, that clearly not the case.

     

     

    These incident interventions are not at the whim of the VAR who wants to re-referee the game himself.

     

     

    Now if we read further down the protocols…

     

     

    …”3. The original decision given by the referee will NOT be changed unless the video review clearly shows that the decision was a ‘clear and obvious error’.

     

     

    4. Only the referee can initiate a ‘review’; the VAR (and other match officials) can only recommend a ‘review’ to the referee.

     

     

    5. The final decision is always taken by the referee, either based on information from the VAR or after the referee has undertaken an ‘on-field review’ (OFR)….

     

     

    Again the capitalisation of NOT, is by me, yet you can see in protocols 3, 4 & 5 that the process and procedures involved in reviewing a decision is covered in these strict guidelines.

     

     

    The only way to assertain with certainty what went wrong during the implementation of these protocols is to listen to the audio “tapes” of the officials interchange, so again, rumours that this audio is not available is very disconcerting.

     

     

    These VAR protocols should be seared into every Scottish Match Official involved.

     

     

    The use of VARs in football matches is based on a number of principles, all of which MUST apply in every match using VARs.

     

     

    The MUST again capitalised by me but VAR does not work if these redlines are ignored and if that is not understood clearly or is ignored by the SFA and their officials, of course, this is incompetence.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  38. David66 on

    Chairbhoy thanks for that post/info.

     

     

    So it looks like it still comes down to deliberate or non deliberate hand ball whether it’s a pen or not.

     

     

    Now if that’s the case ffs Iwata pen is never a pen.

     

     

    D. :)

  41. scullybhoy on

    The postman has just delivered my Irish origins T-Shirt and origins Training Top. They are beautiful and even my wife approved, she usually tells me off if I wear anything Celtic related in public.

  42. Chairbhoy on

    DAVID66 @ 6:40 AM,

     

     

    Yes, although the handball rule still confuses due to the referee being given leeway to make a “subjective” decision.

     

     

    As long as the referee has seen it and not given the penalty, it must be a clear error and it must be an obvious error.

     

     

    So in that regard yes, a clear and deliberate handball in the box is the only time a VAR should intervene.

     

     

    So the Iwata incident was never a penalty and should never have been a VAR intervention.

     

     

    Hail Hail

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