Fan power begins to flex its muscle

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I am sure Neil Doncaster’s job is full of stresses and strains but this week will probably be a breeze.  Fans of every club in the league appear to be in uproar at the resolutions for an Insolvency Transfer Event to be voted on later this month. Infuriating everyone is surely better than infuriating most but leaving one group happy.

Fans of 11 SPL clubs have reacted in horror that the league seek to introduce a facility to allow a liquidated club to phoenix straight back into the top tier of Scottish football.  Fans of Rangers, while along with administrators and bidders for the club are publicly opposed to liquidation, are outraged that this new facility to allow a new club entry to the SPL should carry a sporting and financial inhibitor.

For clarification: the inhibitor is there to ensure clubs have a modicum of moral hazard against gaining an unfair advantage before ditching creditors and their old skins, and emerging in the SPL with player registrations from another club but without the debts or consequences of mismanagement.

Rangers US and Singapore based bidders seem unperturbed by the proposals.  Paul Murray’s Blue Knights consortium has curiously lost its tongue.  Maybe this helps explain all those years when the EBTs were unopposed by the former Rangers board.  Silence, not even an utterance!

There remains three possible outcomes to this issue:

The proposed SPL resolutions will be passed, allowing a Newco straight entry to the League.

The resolutions will fail and the SPL board will vote a Newco into the league anyway.

The resolutions will fail and the SPL board will deny Newco a place in the league.

Celtic Quick News first flagged this scenario in October last year when we predicted Newco would be given a parachute into the SPL, opposed only by Celtic.  As the key resolution (2A) requires only 8 votes I still expect this to happen, despite the ‘Bring it on’ view of many Rangers fans to the prospect of starting again from Division Three.

As the financial penalty resolution (2B) requires 11 votes I expect this to fail and no financial penalties to be imposed.

The question for Kilmarnock, Dunfermline, St Mirren, Inverness, Motherwell, St Johnstone, Hibs and Kilmarnock (don’t tell me they’ll not try to get two votes, they have a huge mountain of debt to service and have every right to demand two votes) is, will they listen to their fans or their bank manager?

Dundee United and Hearts, like North Korea, appear convinced of their own superior wisdom and, like a North Korean missile, could head off in any random direction to demonstrate their contempt for clubs scared of providing satirists with material.  They could easily vote themselves into a Gorgie-Tannadice League, if they could agree on a Gorgie-Tannadice/Tannadice-Gorgie naming convention.

For now, if you care about any of this, participate in the online SPL Fan Survey.  We’ll soon find out who runs Scottish football, fans or the Bank of Scotland! One additional point about democracy, it carries responsibility. In this instance, stopping Newco means fans of all remaining clubs have to step forward in increasing numbers to buy season tickets. This is the cost of sporting integrity.

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  1. mighty tim on 13 April, 2012 at 19:14 said

     

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    mighty tim great blog name, thanks to Lennybhoys post I looked back and I’m very glad I did.

     

    I would like to raise a glass to you’re da as well

     

    Vinny HH and respect to you’re father

  2. Fortunes Favour Mibbes,

     

     

    It takes time to instill the sort of strong mentality that Neil would want in his players. I think he has done a fantastic job so far when you take in the fact that the Referees can’t wait to book Celtic players but will let off players trying to hurt Celtic players. That takes a lot of brilliant man/team management to keep Young men composed and controlled enough to overcome these difficult hurdles. In 3 years we will have a team full of Captains at this rate.

     

     

    The players will see how strong Neil has been and will draw strength from his courage in so many ways in the future, more so when they leave Celtic for other places. I really hope we can keep all these young players because IMO, Europe is going to be very exciting for Celtic next season.

  3. Steinreignedsupreme on 13 April, 2012 at 20:30 said:

     

     

    I hope you’re correct. I’ve had a look and its been forwarded to BBC, STV, Alex Thomson, SFA, SPL and most of the hacks in Scottish sport’s media.

     

     

    The ball’s in their court now.

  4. Billysbhoy, now there’s a name from the past. He was our schools football manager in the 80’s. Had the odd drink with him in Heraughty’s and a few other teachers from that time. Indeed he was well liked. Think he has retired now. Yes a decent bloke.

  5. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Nice to have a thought for departed friends and family at this great,happy time.Out now to raise a glass to a few of them,HH .

  6. Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die on 13 April, 2012 at 20:17 said:

     

     

    mighty tim on 13 April, 2012 at 19:14:

     

     

    As one of many who have lost their Father, I for one would like to offer you a cyber Rum and Guinness.

     

     

    BABASONICOS71 on 13 April, 2012 at 20:17 said:

     

     

    mighty tim,

     

     

    Here’s to your old mhan,sounds like he was a fine human being.Have s good night mo chara (go easy on the drink).

     

     

    Thank you my CQN family. I really appreciate this.

     

     

    HH

  7. ernie

     

     

    Heather reminded me of a Thunderbird puppet, her right arm used to move in direct correlation to her mouth.

  8. Bhoys

     

    I have been trying to catch up not been lurking for a couple of days I need help.

     

     

    Jabba back and talking about (option) 3 division?

     

     

    Judith? Judith who?

     

     

    Thompson going on snyde?

     

    Who with?

     

     

    Is the quiz on?

     

     

    Feel like having a go tonight kids permitting.

     

     

    If anybody can be ersed filling me in, so to speak.

  9. Champs elect – yes I probably did in a state of despair at the thought of a rediculous and needless huns 4 in a row. So for what its worth I am sorry I got upset at the prospect of it.

     

     

    But I will never apologise for my anger at our Board over the years. Nothing that has gone on with the huns excuses Celtic’s lack of ambition. I have never advocated following the huns over the cliff but Celtic could have avoided some of these league losses easily and Celtic’s attitude to its support (cash cow) etc has been a disgrace.

     

     

    largely my anger about this has abated as we have had bigger fish to fry – last season we had the SFA on the ropes and this we have the huns administration. These are far more important that Celtics lack of ambition.

     

     

    So along with the majority of support I’m sorry I felt so upset when it looked bad earlier in the season and Neil and the team rallied remarkably. I am delighted about that and regular posters know I like it when I am wrong.

     

     

    The next big challenge for the celtic board is acting with due intergrity and care around the hun situation. Forgive me if I have some real doubts whether they will chose cash over intergrity. Dunno why but somehow their silence is disturbing is it not?

     

     

    NA

  10. !!Bada Bing!! on

    petec-I agree,the Europa League this season was the making of this team.I hope we can sign a couple of “captains” for next season.Still a wee bit quiet on the park IMO.HH.

  11. St.John.Doyle on

    macanbheatha on 13 April, 2012 at 20:14 said:

     

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    The SNP think they have cracked the Catholic vote as they have been very successful at getting well placed senior former candidates into influential positions in the church lay leadership.

     

    Salmond is a gambler by instinct he probably thinks he has got as much of the former Labour supporting Catholic vote as he is going to get, he now has to make in-roads into the RFC loyal vote. This is an opportunity for Salmond many in the SNP group of advisors didn’t want him to get involved he ignored them, I think he has made a massive mistake as I think RFC will be liquidated and RFC supporters will blame him for not doing enough, Celtic supporters now see him as trying to assist RFC in avoiding their legal responsibilities and breaking the law.

     

    Celtic fans are now able to see the SNP as nasty ambulance chasers.

  12. mightytim

     

     

    All the best. I posted here the day I lost my father as it seemed the right thing to do. Cheers to your’s.

     

     

    bourne

     

     

    Thanks for posting the Jobo post. Jobo – outstanding work sir. I was there and sang all them, except Toytown, cos I don’t know the words. Fantastic day.

  13. Steinreignedsupreme on

    NegAnon2 on 13 April, 2012 at 20:41:

     

     

    “The next big challenge for the celtic board is acting with due intergrity and care around the hun situation. Forgive me if I have some real doubts whether they will chose cash over intergrity. Dunno why but somehow their silence is disturbing is it not?”

     

     

    There has been no reason for Celtic to make a statement as yet as nothing has officially happened.

     

     

    When it does then I’m certain, given earlier comments from Neil Lennon and Peter Lawwell – Celtic will have plenty to say about it.

  14. Vmhan Supporting Lenny! on 13 April, 2012 at 20:28:

     

     

    It brought back memories for me as well. My own Dad left us just over 12 years ago. He was not a football man but knew what Celtic meant to me and would always take an interest in the Bhoys and would throw a few coins my way on big occasion days e.g. on days like 7th April 2012 so I could enjoy the celebrations.

     

     

    mighty tim on 13 April, 2012 at 20:39:

     

     

    Your Dad will always be with you, he’s just in a better place right now, you will be with him again but hopefully for your family and friends her not for a while yet.

     

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

     

    Hail Hail!

  15. Every game Rangers play is a sectarian rally. RFC, as an institution, fosters and perpetuates bigotry in Scotland. Yet ‘men of the left’ like Donohoe and Davidson see no shame in their special pleading for the peepul. Likewise fat, slippy Salmond intercedes with HMRC on their behalf.

     

     

    In the USA, or even in England, any politician, right or left, seen to be supporting racism or bigotry has signed his/her own political death warrant. But, always remember, this is Scotland.

  16. St.John.Doyle

     

     

    IMO the EU want the UK broken up and the Countries part of the EU straight away.

     

     

    Murdoch gobbling Salmond worries me because there are a lot of people who believe the trash in the papers.

  17. St John’s Doyle

     

     

    I recently contacted my SNP MSP on a constituency matter, the anti labour tirade I got back shocked me. I am a member of no political party but because of the question I asked he assumed I was a labour trouble maker.

  18. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    Evening Bhoys

     

     

    Not long back from the land of Nessie…quiz starts at 9

     

     

    5 champion Celtic rounds beckon!!!

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

  19. Esteemed poster, Gordon, of this parish has 2 single tickets available yet for Sunday’s semi v Hearts. One is for the North Stand, same row as myself, near the halfway line and the other is for the South Stand (Debenture area but no additional benefits). Both available at £23 each. Anyone short of a ticket can get my details via Paul 67 if you do not have them already.

  20. NegAnon

     

     

    I don’t think the silence from our board is anything other than the right thing to do. At this stage, despite what we know, we still don’t know the lot. The right time to comment will be when liquidation is announced and when the full extent of their legacy cheating is known. Any annoucement from us would, imo, deflect from our title celebrations – we have the SPL trophy to collect and the champions can speak from a position of strength and full hun disclousre.

  21. Fortunes Favour Mibbes on

    petec

     

     

    You make some v good points. Playing under the cheating hand of the best wee establishment in the world makes motivation a real issue for players, but this is yet another significant hurdle that Lenny has overcome. A team of captains indeed.

     

     

    How good is it to be a Tim !! :)))

     

     

    Wee story for you. Was out v late last Thursday in Glasgow. Usual taxi firm weren’t on show that night, so I asked a black cab for a price out here to the last outpost, agreed it and that was that. When I got in the front door check for my new phone and to my dismay realised it must have falled out my pocket in the cab. I phoned a few times but no answer. 15 mins later, hear a toot outside. The fella returned (bearing in mind this was unfamiliar territory for him as well) to give me phone. I pleaded with him to take me to the bank machine down the road so I could give him some cash for coming all the way, but he wouldn’t hear of it. “Nah, nah, yer a good Tim pal. Forget it”.

     

     

    That fella made my week. Couldn’t thank him enough.

  22. I think and hope when Celtic do have something to say they will surely come out with all guns blazing, but of course in a subtle kind of way that will have the meeja scratching there heads but the point will be made. I do not think they will be sitting back doing nothing, they will be counting up how much we need to spend to scrape through the C.L qualifiers for next few years.

  23. theglasgowcelticway on

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    The SNP have cashed in on some of the blatant anti-catholicism that came out of New Labour.The treatment of Ruth Kelly by some of her colleagues was disgraceful,apparently,(Mary Honeyball going so far as to say,”Gordon Brown should think twice about having catholics in any future cabinet.”)Labour needs to win this vote back.

  24. Steinreignedsupreme on 13 April, 2012 at 20:47

     

    If I may stick in my 2p worth, Youre maybe right….. only saying maybe because I dont follow all the facts or all the blogs and TBH done get on this blog which is the only one I use….. so you may have all the knowledge that I don’t……

     

    my point my friend is that there is a huge propoganda machine happening and the Celts point of view is being ignored or even worse suggested by non CFC members….. in fact some clown from Dunfermline I think reckons everyone else in the SPL is at war with Celtic football club……. I’m sick of our club being such a wimp…… why dont they grow some…. this is all my opinion my friend so HH

     

    V

  25. Scotland’s problem with Catholicism is 456 years old. None of our politicians or their parties has any chance of fixing it. Whether they want to or not is another question.

  26. celticrollercoaster says In Neil we trust on

    Round 1: If you know your current season History?

     

    (2pts per first correct answer: 1pt per answer if you are correct but not first. Remember only 1 submission per round)

     

     

    1) Name the 3 Celtic Captains that were substituted in last week’s game against Killie?

     

     

    2) Who has scored most goals this season; Hooper or Stokes?

     

     

    3) Which 2 Hoops have made the most league starts this season?

     

     

    4) Which team did Dylan McGeough score his wonder goal against?

     

     

    5) Name the 3 teams that have failed to score against the Hoops in league action this season?

     

     

    6) Which 2 teams have conceded fewest league goals in total against the Hoops this season?

     

     

    7) Who scored at home against Udinese for the Hoops this year?

  27. No matter how this pans out , and i cant see it boding well for the celts , regan and doncaster should be finished , as far as im concerned their posts are now untenable . Is ogilvie still in position .if so another disgrace.

     

     

    jimtim

  28. Cannot remember who give those great tips for Cheltenham, when thanks to him I won £180 but how about the big race tomorrow?

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