One of the things you hope for when a player leaves for a richer league is that they perform well. It reflects on whatever value you will get the next time someone leaves. Joe Ledley has gotten off to a flier with Crystal Palace, although there is still a long way to go there, but our two big summer sales are finding it tough.
Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich. His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league. Norwich other two strikers have yet to get off the blocks.
Bizarrely, Norwich are flooded with expensive strikers but their fans will bemoan the fact that they don’t have a goal-scorer, which Hooper was at Celtic and van Wolfswinkel was at Utrecht, where he scored a hat-trick against Celtic, and at Sporting. There is a good chance they will be relegated as a consequence, which will probably have them back on the hunt for a Leigh Griffiths-type striker.
Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time. He was a solid performer for Southampton before injury side-lined him for two months. Now back, he has a seat alongside Jos Hooiveld on the bench, due to the form of Jack Cork, one of Southampton’s many current stars.
Hooper and Wanyama were among the stars of the Celtic team last season but I suspect their new clubs’ fans are wondering what all the fuss is about. Form is fickle. It’s hard to tell when a career is about to turn all Liam Miller on a bright young prospect (and let’s be honest, Miller was every bit as lauded here as Hooper or Wanyama), or what consequences the new club, the move, or other distractions are having on performance.
There are also a couple of ex-Celtic goalkeepers doing a star turn in the FA Premier League, David Marshall at Cardiff and Artur Boruc at Southampon. After dazzling in his early months Marshall sipped well down the pecking order at Celtic, who eventually offloaded him. He was replaced as first choice by Boruc, who could claim to be the top rated keeper in Europe 8 years ago but completely lost ‘it’, before finding it again, recently.
My prediction is that Hooper, Wanyama, Balde, Boerrigter and Pukki will not fulfil their potential at their current clubs, although I considered Wanyama’s place on the list for a while. This does not make them bad players, ‘it’ just doesn’t always happen when it should. By contrast, some players look born to play for Celtic, including Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.
Really enjoyed reading the questions to and comments about Tommy Gemmell yesterday, as did Tommy, who spent the afternoon reading CQN and was “delighted” at the response. He’s not got a login yet but we’ll get him sorted and do a live event on the blog after we have the book out of the way.
I’m attending a meeting next Wednesday with Supporters’ Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor. Let me know if there are any questions you’d like raised.
If you would like to read the new CQN Magazine, GO HERE to read properly, and for FREE, the graphic below is just a taster.
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DontPatmadug
08:01 on
14 February, 2014
Not guilty.
Much more expensive than that.
ACGR,
I’ll drop you a text later if you have any spare Celtic tops/strips, and ask Jungle Jim if he is travelling on your boogie bus with you ? Drop them off on way to game Sunday ?
Hail Hail and Happy St Cyril, St Methodius, and finally St Valentines day to all :-)
DontPatmadug
08:01 on
14 February, 2014
So who found it necessary to express their love for a loved one by purchasing a 6 by 8 piece of cardboard today :).
Commercialbullshitdaycfc
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I sent a text message to the one I love
I was going to send a card but don’t think her husband would be too happy
;-)
Cowiebhoy, I’ll be passing your place about 10.00……ish, will you be in for a shirt drop off? You can jump in the acgr boogie bus to paradise.
I’ll see if the young skud has any shirts he’s grown out of too.
JJ will see this when he gets back from the sclaffbaw in smokie toon. Luck auld bassa, it’s a nice morning here in Angus and there’s hardly a breath of wind. A great sclaffing day.
HH
Will be having a Celtic quiz at 9pm tonight all welcome!
Whither the cash strapped scrofulous hillbillies the day?
DontPatmadug – I am Spartacus.
Lionsroar 67
Yes, Forsyth did stop well short but it was a start anyway. If I think the only Scottish journo who’s went further is Glenn Gibbons. The rest are mixing bottle merchants who should hang their heads in shame.
Lionrose
You must be Salmond-SNP as your post is straight from a Salmond/SNP script. You just characterize your opponent’s view as urine but under no circumstances doo you debate matters of substance.
BTW, I take it you agree with Eck on RFC’ s unique status.
Why have the huns been handled differently´from the teams that have broken the FFP rules in Italy, Spain, Greece, Ireland, Malta etc by UEFA ?
Why did Lord Nimmo under the auspisces of the aheemmmmm.. cough… cough splutter.. now defunct SPL oh how conveneite… so easily gloss over the bare faced financial fraud and rule book cheating ?
Why did the European Club Association so readily accept SEVCO´s continued but cosmetically reduced membership within their organisation considering their
founding aims ?
Do really think that this has all been glossed over ? even with Brian Quinn in the upper echelons of the UEFA FFP without some Scottish representation imploring them not to adhere to the rule book ?
and why ? Armageddon ?? Scottish football. Comradeship methinks
Do you really believe that within that representation Celtic has no voice WHATSOEVER? has not been consulted andis too meek and worried about public disorder to comment ?
I categorically dont believe that and can only deduce that Celtic board at the very least gave their tacit approval. Looking at their subsequent behaviour since the 5 way agreement I also deduce that it seems far more likely that we were an integral part
of the Rangers rescue.
HH
Twitter.
“@cohcfc: Two years ago today the “club” and “company” myth started.
#HappyadministrationDay”
Brilliant!
Roses are Red
Rangers are dead
Voilets are Blue
Sevco soon will be to
xx
Took this from the BBC gossip column,puts me in mind of Celtic a bit.
Ahead of his Europa League return to White Heart lane with Dnipro on 27th February.
former Spurs boss Juande Ramos has hit out at his old club: “Man City sign Jesus Navas,Alvaro Negredo.They don’t look at the age of the player, they look at the performances.Spurs look at the age, thinking of a future sale. What are you chasing?Titles, or economic success?’ ”
Ramos also criticised his former players for eating at McDonalds (Daily Mail)
Aw Naw
The SPL only changed its name. It is the same company with the same company number and to use an LNS term is most definitely continuous.
Unlike the early DOS ebts and the later EBTs on which the big tax case is based.
I appreciate the grounds for your suspicions and time will tell if they are true or not, but suspicions need to be sure of the facts before any sound judgement can be reached and there is nothing significant in the SPL name change.
It is not as if they were liquidated to shed debt after all.
Twisty
Excellent post …just about where I am too ..sadly
I feel our club is without a soul and simply a corporate entity …unfortunately a rapacious one who cares little for its customers and relentless seeks profit above all else
oldtim67
Credit to the “visionaries” at Man City
1 billion spent for 1 league title (on bloody goal difference) and one FA Cup
We definitely need to adopt that policy!
Just in to say….
I think that it’s well past the dining-oot on the sympathy vote for Neil, in terms of abuse and what have ye. It’s a disgrace what he’s has to put up with in this sectarian / racist backwater of a country but, I know it’s not on the same scale but, I’ve had to put up with a fair bit of ‘rough-stuff’ socially and, in the working environments in my time withoot – Celtic making me into an overnight millionare which must soften the blows a bit, I would imagine ?
Anyway, from a mangerial, coaching pov, I would get rid of him and, I’ve been saying this for a while on here. The downside for me is….since PL took over in late 2003…MON worked his ticket imho(wife unwell ?)….as soon as PL came in…MON was telling us that, after going oot the UEFA Cup to V.Real that, from here on in…Celtic fans will have to get used to operating in the slow lane in terms of player recruitment. Thing is…since MON left…it’s been the ‘PL managerial puppet show’ what with, WGS, BTM and learn on the job Neil. Point I’m tryin to make is…a lot of fans on here and elsewhere are starting to see the flaws in Neil’s stewardship but, who’ll be the next puppet ? Owen Coyle ? Malky McKay ?
A lot of the players that have been brought in by Neil and, havent played a lot have been written off as duds ? That’s unfair imho.
Brozek, Lassad, Miku, Bangura, Freddy, Balde, Pukki. Have these players ‘ever’ played in a Celtic team that makes chances ?
Ah mean, ah don’t like Stokes but, in fairness to him for example…in last weeks game – he got one chance in the entire game and put it away !!!
Indeed, in last weeks game…it took until the 74th minute until Celtic got their 2nd shot at goals ? WTF ? In a home SC tie it takes until 74 mins for the 2nd shot at goal ?
Nae wonder the above mentioned strikers don’t look good if ‘that’ is an example of the chances ratio ?
Whose fault is that ?
Anyway…ah could fill the blog with examples of games like that but, ah canny be bothered cos it makes me no well jist thinking aboot how this glaring poor fair hardly rates a mention from this blogs own resident – Andy Roxburgh’s & Craig Broon’s ?
Anyway….from last night the post below caught my eye – not much could be added. imho
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mungolian bhoy
22:21 on 13 February, 2014
………………… declining, shrinking, decreasing, falling, diminishing, dropping, dwindling.
Insert the correct answer in the blank
A Trust
B Interest
C Celtic crowd.
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Take Care Tims – Off oot.
oldtim67
Your mention of McD’s just reminded me of our rendezvous in Sants for the Barca tickets. :-)
Then I hear on radio that tickets for the Arsenal v B. Munich game are on sale @£132 a pop. Madness!
Kevjungle
Their is not a business on earth that is not subject to its policy and all employees have to work within it. In that sense they are all puppets.
If you want real change as opposed to re arranging the deck chairs, what policies would you advocate?
Pfayr.
Pull yourself together and remember what celtic is about then. You don’t think celtic extends outside of the boardroom?
Hi Paul67,
“Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich. His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league. Norwich other ………………Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time.”
It doesn’t really surprise me that Gary Hooper has struggled in the FAPL, he got great service up here from Stokes and others and was playing against much poorer defenders.
I was brought to book by comparing his level to Scott Brown.
Firstly Scott did a great job for us, secondly his poaching style meant he was more effective in Europe and got some crucial goals.
Now Gary may have been the more accomplished footballer but will not make a dent in my Celtic top ten strikers.
It shows all the more what a huge mistake it was not off-loading him in January last Season ~ Cup Final apart:-)
Think Victor will come good, Ki took a few Seasons to bed in, in England, Victors quality will shine through, no doubts.
What it means for our profit taking re- the likes of FF and VvD well…
All in all, guess the crop we exported will re-affirm in the mind of the English, shining in the SPL in no guarantee of qwalitee.
Hail Hail
KevJungle
I’m glad to see you have based your analysis of Celtic’s chance creation on the massive sample of one game
There not their. I hate doing that.
Auldheid
and the other 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the post.
I see your reply as more a reflection of your mindset than my own.
HH
Auldheid I was ruminating (thats thinking tonydonnelly) on celtic’s response to the trust further. I still agree with much of what the club has said but the overall sentiment behind the response was one of appeasement. There is a sense of oh well thats the rules so we need to follow them to the letter. NO other club does what celtic have done to the supporters.
And as we all know appeasement never works.
I think celtic’s appeasment is bourne out of celtics desire to simply make money and not really care about what else is going on. However this shortsighted and very singular approach is strangling the support. And of course its the support which generates the money for celtic.
Ergo our policy of appeasement is bourne out of our single monetary strategy. And that strategy is fatally flawed.
….pfayr supports weeoscar
09:34 on 14 February, 2014
Dearie me….for ‘profit’ read ‘survival’……..!!??
timaloy29
09:40 on
14 February, 2014
oldtim67
Credit to the “visionaries” at Man City
1 billion spent for 1 league title (on bloody goal difference) and one FA Cup
We definitely need to adopt that policy!
Do you honestly believe that with the healthiest figures in Celtic’s history, PL did the best he could in player acquisition at the last transfer window.? Never yet saw a balance sheet hold up the Scottish Cup.
neganon2
09:53 on 14 February, 2014
A tad simplistic / narrow-minded as ever……
Oldtim.
I read that quote and thought of rangers. Is Ramos a Hun?
Sounds like one anyway.
@quonno
Neil Lennon has the biggest budget in the country by miles and a massive squad compared to other clubs. Do you really think we struggled to beat Aberdeen because of the transfer policy?
It was tactics pure and simple. Neil got it wrong unfortunately and we all have to accept that an move on.
Celtic are a club with a glass ceiling of winning trophies domestically and reaching the last 16 of the champions league without risking the future of the club. We did that last season.
For us to ever break into that last 8 we would need to spend similar amounts to the big teams from the big leagues. That would kill us like it did der huns. In the end all we can do is get through the group stages and get a skelping thanks to one of the “superclubs” like Juventus & FC Barcelona
It’s sad but thats modern football. The CL is a competition designed to keep the last 8 the usual suspects as they bring the best TV audience, which briings the best sponsorship money, which keeps Uefa rich.
There is only so much our board can do.
Survival with multi million pound bonuses and payouts going on ?
When the truth comes out some of our green huns are going to be just like the sevconians. I am looking forward to reading their reasoning. Although I shouldn`t
HH
Aw Naw
I responded on a point of fact and yes my mindset is to base my opinion on them or at least recognise that what I believe to be true may not in fact be so.
It works for me but it may not work for others.
So looks like the requisitioners have brought in a new player for the resolution 12 team, yes ladies and gentlemen enter…Neganon2….has been appointed by the power house (who never turned up the last time, because of work commitments, some say he got the Chinese whisper who knows?) canamala, I’m sure that this oracle (neganon) is the messiah and will be carried shoulder high from the meeting, with Peter Lawwell left in tears, oh joy of joys, Aye right, this is becoming a comedy act, I was willing to let them go ahead and wait for the out come, but no, as if you are interested that is? Last night I was mentioned in a few dispatches by the bold canamala (early morning actually ) so go ahead team requisitioners, make your play, as I said, they just couldn’t let it go, and well! You know me, trash talk me am comin back at yi, it’s what I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iee8EFQeVWE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Happy admin day,here’s a tribute to the man who made it all possible:-D
Awe naw.
Do you think that celtic fans who are deserting the club are paving the way for a zombie resurgence?
Twists and turns well said
NegAnon2
Robert88 no you are clearly not open to all opinions. You have a very closed mind. You mention a conspiracy about celtic being involved in all this? Tell me did you think the celtic fans were paranoid when we complained about SFA cheating? Are you not paying attention? Did you see the Charlotte stuff that the whole of scottish society including celtic ignored? You seem to think others are jealous of you? Why? Celtics silence betrays all of forefathers who put up with discrimination and sectarianism.
Im open to all opinions, I’m not closed minded.
I have stated there is no conspiracy that certain people seem to think.
Yes there are many wrong doings, I’ve read all there is too read on the matter. The cheating and the lying will not be changed and that is my point, Celtic should concentrate on what they are doing, and keep it that way and not participate in the circus. SFA wont be changed by our actions if they have done what they have thus far. Thats why Celtic are silent.
The jealousy thing is an example, don’t take it literally, many are Jealous of Celtic and would love us to be involved in the circus. It will help selling papers and give more unwarranted attention to Sevco.
Neganon2
This is what I dont get.
Celtic’s policy is to make money and the way to do that is alienate the support?
I am not saying the support are not alienated or more correctly that some feel alienated, but if the object is to make money then the alienation is not deliberate and if it is costing money then they will do something about it.
Regarding appeasement I think we have to at least accept Celtic are not all powerful and a judgement is required on what fights to pick.