Fulfilling potential after a move

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One of the things you hope for when a player leaves for a richer league is that they perform well.  It reflects on whatever value you will get the next time someone leaves.  Joe Ledley has gotten off to a flier with Crystal Palace, although there is still a long way to go there, but our two big summer sales are finding it tough.

Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich.  His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league.  Norwich other two strikers have yet to get off the blocks.

Bizarrely, Norwich are flooded with expensive strikers but their fans will bemoan the fact that they don’t have a goal-scorer, which Hooper was at Celtic and van Wolfswinkel was at Utrecht, where he scored a hat-trick against Celtic, and at Sporting.  There is a good chance they will be relegated as a consequence, which will probably have them back on the hunt for a Leigh Griffiths-type striker.

Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time.  He was a solid performer for Southampton before injury side-lined him for two months.  Now back, he has a seat alongside Jos Hooiveld on the bench, due to the form of Jack Cork, one of Southampton’s many current stars.

Hooper and Wanyama were among the stars of the Celtic team last season but I suspect their new clubs’ fans are wondering what all the fuss is about.  Form is fickle.  It’s hard to tell when a career is about to turn all Liam Miller on a bright young prospect (and let’s be honest, Miller was every bit as lauded here as Hooper or Wanyama), or what consequences the new club, the move, or other distractions are having on performance.

There are also a couple of ex-Celtic goalkeepers doing a star turn in the FA Premier League, David Marshall at Cardiff and Artur Boruc at Southampon.  After dazzling in his early months Marshall sipped well down the pecking order at Celtic, who eventually offloaded him.  He was replaced as first choice by Boruc, who could claim to be the top rated keeper in Europe 8 years ago but completely lost ‘it’, before finding it again, recently.

My prediction is that Hooper, Wanyama, Balde, Boerrigter and Pukki will not fulfil their potential at their current clubs, although I considered Wanyama’s place on the list for a while.  This does not make them bad players, ‘it’ just doesn’t always happen when it should. By contrast, some players look born to play for Celtic, including Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.

Really enjoyed reading the questions to and comments about Tommy Gemmell yesterday, as did Tommy, who spent the afternoon reading CQN and was “delighted” at the response.  He’s not got a login yet but we’ll get him sorted and do a live event on the blog after we have the book out of the way.

I’m attending a meeting next Wednesday with Supporters’ Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor.  Let me know if there are any questions you’d like raised.

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  1. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Neil Lennon against brainless thugs and zombies on

    Syd Negakev, been loving your posts but I’ve noticed that you’ve lost your early parody tone.

     

     

    Please correct this.

  2. Rascar Capac

     

     

    Why are they so desperate for us to stay?

     

     

     

     

    Quite simply, without us the game is up old chap

  3. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Neil Lennon against brainless thugs and zombies

     

     

    “I canny be doing with all this cloak n dagger pish.”

     

     

    Your not the only one, but in a game of poker would you show your hand to the world if you want to get a result?

     

     

    The latter is more important than satisfying folk’s natural curiosity at this time. In fact doing so could ruin any chance of getting a result.

  4. Thindimebhoy

     

     

    Tony Mowbray suffered a lot from ‘honest mistakes’. Remember, he was brought in because another very successful manager was apparently not entertaining us enough. We should all be careful what we wish for.

     

     

    As for the current situation, for goodness sake…how perfect does a manager have to be?

     

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    A Ceiler Gonof Rust Supporting Neil Lennon against brainless thugs and zombies

     

     

    Yes, you are correct and I will.

     

     

    Boycott the games! Sack the bored!

     

     

    Meanwhile, I’m off oot to take an important phonecall. ;-)

  5. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Acgrst,

     

    Your drunker than me,

     

    You simply want some feedback then simply email me like you did when we were raising the resolution, theres no need to give Auldheid a soreheid.

     

    We are acquiescing to the boards business procedures, to get the answers we want we need the board to ask the SFA questions, if they demand I run down argyle street barearsed then that is the commitment I took to get the questions asked.

     

    If you read back a few pages you’ll see the line of questions we want to follow, no saying its no been painfully slow but we have one crack and I’m no interested in firing in with “aye yer maw stuff” know what a mean :o)

     

    Honestly, when did you think I wouldnt reply to you ?

     

    i’m hurt, yer starting to go kit, and kits no asked me anything in ages, gobshitting in his own inimitable bipolar way without a care in the world, and we’re all to just suppose its no breaking out hearts FFS.

     

    No good enough, if you dont like whats going on with Res 12, then ask the copulating greetin faced monkey that wrote it, seriously.

  6. Thin

     

     

    If we stay…

     

     

    We will pay for education

     

     

    We will limit new people coming here

     

     

    Despite us needing them to make our economy work

     

     

    We will distance ourselves from Europe

     

     

    In spite of our beautiful union that prevents wars.

     

     

    I am really scared of England’s lurch to the right.

     

     

    So… I will have to post on here til the election.

     

     

    Despite myself.

  7. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    Syd Negakev, that’s mair like it.

     

     

    Auldheid, I’ll take on the wisdom of you response and await the March response from the club.

     

     

    FFS canamalar, I never knew you cared. I never stopped believing. If I did I wouldn’t be on here bitching for answers. Giving Aulheid a hard time, aye good one. Very dramatic.

     

     

    BTW, you still owe me a lunch, so get it sorted and stop being a Goodwin.

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  8. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Today is holyday and its only half four, i’ve got hours before i collapse in a heep

  9. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    Canamalar, that’s more like it. ha ha ha:-) I’ll drop you a mail ya mad banger.

     

     

    BTW, insulting other posters when you only want to insult me is bang oota order.

  10. Margaret McGill on

    ACGR ..I’m happy that you are bringing up these issues.

     

    Auldheid..thanks for your efforts..much appreciated.. I hope resurrection 12 is acted upon though..methinks the bored are stalling….hoping maybe that Sevco meltdown part 2 will prevent them exposing their balls (TM ACGR)

     

    I really cant be arsed reading back..it takes too long, so i have probably missed some good stuff.

     

    I will be voting for Independence in September.

  11. Syd Negakev

     

     

    But the point is NL has not had to worry about Rangers and their people making honest mistakes for their benefit

     

     

    The game against Aberdeen had no exterior complications in other words no reasons for losing the game considering the run in the league

     

     

    It was a big game every bit as big as the game the game Tony Mowbray lost to St Mirren

     

     

    Mogga got the sack for that and all I am saying is PL will be dusting down his plan B and looking at the alternatives

     

     

    NL is now a manager in the spotlight and rightly so

     

     

    The loss to Aberdeen was big very big I’m sure he knows it and its possible implications

  12. A Ceiler Gone of Rust.

     

     

    When I said scroll back two pages I was referring to my post to Neganon.

     

     

    Auldheid

     

     

     

     

    23:29 on

     

     

    13 February, 2014

     

     

     

     

    NegAnon2

     

     

    23:18 on

     

     

    13 February, 2014

     

     

    Auldheid I agree I think the res 12 response will tell us all we need to know. How is it going?

     

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    We will not know until March but remember it is the shareholders Celtic have to answer to not the requisitioners.

     

     

    However there has been no delaying on Celtic’s part and there is a meeting scheduled for end of Feb.

     

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    Did I say in that there would be a response from the club in March or did I say it somewhere else?

     

     

    If not then you have read something into the above I did not say or mean

  13. Margaret McGill on

    I think Paul67 needs to break his blog up into threads like other blogs and maybe a “zoom”/search function. I like CQN. Its my favourite Celtic blog. Why dont we all club together and give Paul67 some financial incentive. I think he needs it. I think he deserves it. he has been a fantastic servant to Glasgow Celtic.Or maybe paul67 is busy and can delegate? Dunno. Just spreading seeds. I think we all owe it to paul67. maybe paul67 can tell us his future plans?

  14. Margaret McGill

     

     

    I’m sure if Paul67 needs financial help to run the blog he will let us know

     

     

    I’m not adverse to paying dues

     

     

    But I would hate if the blog got turned into a bowling club type of thing

  15. Margaret McGill

     

     

     

     

    01:40 on

     

     

    14 February, 2014

     

     

     

     

    ACGR ..I’m happy that you are bringing up these issues.

     

    Auldheid..thanks for your efforts..much appreciated.. I hope resurrection 12 is acted upon though..methinks the bored are stalling….hoping maybe that Sevco meltdown part 2 will prevent them exposing their balls

     

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    I would not rule that out but they are not stalling, so whilst it may happen like that, it will not be by design.

     

     

    The point I was trying to make to ACGR is that ultimately Celtic have to either say that Res 12 was unnecessary or that they no longer hold that position but I have no idea when as it will be their decision on the response.

     

     

    They will not be saying it to the requisitioners, they will be saying it to shareholders and the wide support.

     

     

    They could easily have prevented putting themselves in that position had they voted against the resolution but they did not. If I remember correctly the adjournment suggestion came from the club Company Secretary (a lawyer) not the requisitioners.

     

     

    In any case unless a Sevco meltdown unseats the SFA, whom the Res aims at, the issue will not have gone away.

  16. Margaret McGill on

    Thindimebhoy

     

     

    01:55 on 14 February, 2014

     

    yeah i understand but “refreshing” 20+ pages every evening is tedious. Maybe we should all put our thinking caps on? :)

  17. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    Auldheid, I took your comment about not knowing until march to mean the club would respond in march. So I guess I misinterpreted that.

     

     

    So I’ll just have to wait until the end of the world then.

     

     

    Keep up the good work, and posting your great stuff. Contrary to canlamors last post, I’m not giving you a hard time as I appreciate the efforts yourself, canamalar, Morrissey and BRTH have put into this.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  18. Ernie.

     

     

    You are a smart guy.

     

     

    Can you tell us why we should join the right wing English, when very few of us vote fhem.

     

     

    You are pretty concise, and I love you for that alone.

  19. Margaret McGill on

    Auldheid

     

     

    01:57 on 14 February, 2014

     

    So Celtic PLC have documents in their hands right now about European registration communications with the SFA in 2011/2012 that they dont want to currently reveal?

     

    is that the gist of it? If so then Im ok with it. If not then ‘we” need an explanation

  20. ACGR

     

     

    No probs. Here is one of my analogies.

     

     

    We make the best arrows we can, but we are not the bowmen.

  21. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Maggie..,

     

    Yer welcome to join in and take it as far and fast as you want, easy to sit on yer high horse and slag like that arsebarer tony donnelly, why dont you lead us ?

  22. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    Maggie doll, you’ll be pleased to know I’m about to offload the acgr boat and you can sell yer fishing rod. We never got to sail away but maybe we’ll get a pint together one day wi the wee H bomb.

     

     

    He tells me you’re out of the country long term. Hmmm, I’m wondering if you even get to vote on lexy’s thistle clad nirvana.

     

     

     

    BTW, I’m voting YES. I’d rather have a government of halfwits and liars in Edinburgh than one of the same mix in London.

     

     

    xxxx

  23. Margaret McGill on

    Neil

     

    I am sorry I came across that way. That was not my intention. I dont trust our board. I dont like them. I dont live in Scotland. My brother has my full support and I love him. please dont compare me to that arsewipe Tony Donnelly. What do you want me to do? Sitting here 5 hours behind the UK?

  24. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    People have stopped going, as post Henrik the quality of football has been turgid.

     

    Even some of MON’s stuff couldn’t be redeemed by the No.7.

     

     

    Celtic supporters want to be entertained on the park and not by an X Factor type side show from the audience.

     

     

    The passion comes from the team on the park.

     

     

    Gerry and I are off for the night.

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    ACGR

     

     

    Glad to hear you have finally got rid of THE WILD ROVER

     

     

    Now you can spend all yer money on whisky and beer.

  26. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Auldheid,

     

    Tell the truth, the reason the club havnt had an answer is because we’ve been sitting on our arse no asking questions, we’ve fell asleep, we thought we had a team then waited for the best player to make an appearance, the best player was too busy.

     

    Hands up we copulated up thinking we would get the best, cheers besty.

     

    Tonight we realised we waited too long, a couple of questions on here is like an army of researchers, yer right peeps, it parked rightup, and appears to need madmentalminceyheid to drive.

     

    Fasten yer seatbelts

  27. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    BobM, wild rover? She was called “Crazy Diamond” and I’m gonnay miss her if the sale goes through.

     

     

    But as you say, mair dram cash, wayheyyyyyyyy, n feck thi beer. Drams are the new beer.

     

     

    Want tae buy a speed boat?

     

     

     

     

    Haw!!

  28. Rascar Capac

     

    01:26 on 14 February, 2014

     

     

    The lurch to the right is unstoppable for UK politics

     

     

    Labour by saying nothing are bucking the trend they have no alternative

     

     

    Blair who whored labours socialist principles for the city of London vote paved the way for what we could safely call the crime of the centuries ie the massive corruption in the banking system egged on by corruption within political classes

     

     

    When we live in a country where a politician can get a duck house on expenses then its fair to assume the whole place has gone quackers

     

     

    I think a yes vote for an independant Scotland will at least free us from this madness down south which lets face it has not gone away

  29. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    Auldheid,

     

    Dont tell me you never got a ton of stuff tonight,

     

    Honest mistakes and praecepta wow

     

    Letter to the board

  30. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    A CEILER GONOF RUST

     

     

    Aye,I know fine well what she was called,but that didnae fit wi the narrative.

     

     

    I canny be coming on here suggesting you spend all yer money getting f….d up on drugs,ffs.

     

     

    It’s CQN,not FF or RM!

  31. A Ceiler Gonof Rust Dancing in the Moonlight with Annabel Goldie on

    Thindimebhoy, stop trying to start a political debate when we’re trying to get stuck intae auldheid and cannedheid aboot resolution 12. FFS, don’t you realise tony d gets up abput 06.00.

     

     

    HH