Last night’s performance was a vast improvement on the horrible displays against Legia and gave us our second insight (after United) into how Ronny Deila is changing the way Celtic play football.
Key to the performance was the movement of his two Norwegians, Stefan Johansen and Jo Inge Berget, Callum McGregor and Beram Kayal. Johansen, who closed down space high up the field, pressurising defenders, played his best game for Celtic. Less said about his clearance of a Virgil van Dijk header the better.
Watching Kayal was like meeting an old friend again. The player, who in 2011 kept Victor Wanyama out of the team, has been a shadow of his former self since returning from injury two years ago. He is another player who enjoys closing space.
I’m an acknowledged cynic when it comes to even remotely hyped young players breaking through the ranks, but Callum McGregor has now delivered repeatedly. There is a long hard season ahead of him, and let’s remember, form fluctuates, but he has looked like one of the best players in the team so far. I doubt any Celtic player has opened the scoring in three consecutive European away games.
The first 35 minutes saw Maribor sit deep, which allowed Celtic to build patiently. Movement was good during this period, players in possession always had options, so we were able to switch play, force opponents to chase the ball, and penetrate with purpose.
Play was bound to change when Maribor started to close down higher up field, but Celtic reacted by playing low-percentage balls forward, which invariably resulted in possession being lost. I would like to see us look for less-ambitious passes more often.
There were several concerns, not least of all at the back. A defence which was impregnable for much of last season is now being cut open with regularity. I don’t subscribe to the view that players suddenly lose instinct and awareness over the summer, so it’s likely that a change in the midfield shape is exposing frailties in defence.
Maribor players found themselves clean through on a couple of occasions last night, echoing what happened in Warsaw and at Murrayfield. Ronny needs to find a fix.
Despite clearly being the better team, there is still a big job ahead for Celtic next week, better teams don’t always win, but a disciplined performance, no red cards, no mistakes at the back, should see us through.
Take no chances at Inverness on Saturday, make sure players are rested and fit.
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I agree a flounce is embarrassing so I’m not blooming flouncing!!!!!
I am however bored going on about the same things. And I know I am boring loads of you too.
Nothing is changing so a wee rest is called for I think for all our sakes.
No flouncing though…….
Radio Scotland going on about how great MOTD is 50 years on.
MOTD is an obscene drain on the licence fee. Lineker on about 1.5Million, Shearer and Hansen also on enormous salaries and a very very large amount of money paid to the EPL from the BBC.
Contrast this with the tiny amount BBC Scotland pays to Scottish fitba for highlights on a Sunday. In fact now that i think about it more of my licence fee goes to the EPL than the SPL!
joe millers shorts
Hansen has retired but I get your point. At one time he earned more in a year from the BBC for MOTD than the SPL earned as a whole.
Scottish football may get slated but we don;t even get respect from our national broadcaster.
If the BBC ever lose the rights to the EPL they will probably come begging across the border to screen more Scottish games.
Not having the Scottish highlights on a Saturday is a disgrace. No wonder young kids are supporting English and foreign teams. The highlights are on at a ridiculous time on a Sunday evening.
LB
Marrakesh Express –
It was Barry Davies who made the complimentary comments about the Celtic Park atmosphere during the Partizan match.
NegAnon2
09:04 on
22 August, 2014
Pity. At least you can put together a constructive argument. I’ll look forward to you dipping in and out, and your return.
Good, you got your sense of humour back Neganon. See you soon, hopefully not immediately following a defeat ; )
Good man NegAnon2
Not my job to tell anyone what to do but it just becomes a drain battering the same brick wall regardless of your opinion. I don’t necessarily agree with all of your views but I’d hate to think both you weren’t part of the fabric here and that you didn’t think about yourself from time to time. We all have to.
Keep the chin up, you’ve got a lot of people looking out for you and you should draw from that as a person.
Don’t be a stranger and keep the faith.
LiviBhoy
09:00 on 22 August, 2014
Interesting comments from Ronny about the training facilities.
I am impressed that he doesn;t trot out the usual tripe from managers ‘Geez money to buy players’
It would appear that his analysis of all things Celtic is now complete. He knows what he has, what he needs and what and who needs improved.
This guy is as ruthless as he is meticulous. I like him.
He now seems to be more relaxed and I think at ease speaking to the media. The good results help but the Celtic job is probably one of the most high pressure jobs in European football. You have to win every game and you have to score rakes of goals and play great football at the same time.
Ronny is not afraid to make big calls. I dubt he will not have a blip but it is his team now. We can se a change in style and personnel. I am delighted he has looked into more than just bringing new players in. Improving the day to day training and squeezing that extra 5%-10% was something I mentioned the other day. That can vital to win personal battles and gain an advantage. When we look at European football especially against the big guns I have always said that Celtic need every player playing out of their skin and hope the other team have an off day just to have a fighting chance. Ronny looks to increase those odds by improving our training facilities. That is smart thinking.
Just a note on Big Fecks comments. 2 lines actually indicate what he is in the paper for. He is promoting a book about the success Ferguson had at Aberdeen. The whole article is about poor Sevco struggling to catch Celtic. No wonder other teams dispise the Glasgow clubs with media like ours. Feck should have refused to discuss that and speak about the sheep but didn’t. He knows that talking about the team from Ibrox keeps him in the media.
I predict a cracking game tomorrow and plenty goals. I am going for a 4-1 victory for the Hoops and another display to send the fans home happy.
LB
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That is all very well saying it is gonnae be a corker.
What Team do you think will be playing in that corker?
I think Efe will be back for Celtic Park. Efe and Denayer?
Ronny, as I say, is testing his Men.
Summa of Sammi….
07:52 on 22 August, 2014
How do the players get home from Barrowfield? I doubt any of them live within walking distance of Celtic Park.
CQN flouncathon!
Morning Celts..
Neganon 2
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I concur with yer absolute ‘FRUSTRATION’ that you feel, trying to enlighten yer fellow Celtic ‘supporters’ on this and, other blogs.
Apathy is the biggest enemy facing you and others from, quelling that ‘FRUSTRATION’ and, ye know what is really needed here to waken an awful lot of todays Celtic ‘supporters’ from their slumber….the return of the apparently ‘died’ huns and, the eventual realisation that, DD, JR the ‘bored’ and their carefully planted ‘lackeys’ have been spinning smoke-screens like – resolution 12 – which will only have any punch about it if, Celtic’s hierarchy – jump into the ring and deliver a fatal blow on the chin of the Scottish football establishment – which has been run to suit ‘one’ club since it’s inception.
By landing a punch on the chin – Celtic can’t operate within the confines of the Scottish football structure or, to put it another way, Celtic have to make up their own rules ie: call a press conference of the ‘national media’ – NOT the Scottish media – present the ‘dossier’ and let the world of football KNOW what is going on here and, if the only route to go down to achieve being ‘released’ from the ‘Mississippi-lodge’ is that of, anarchy…then so be it.
Announce that Celtic can not take part in the football in Scotland as a point of principal.
My theory might just work if, the ‘rebels’ that McCann got rid of or, present day replacements were in control not DD, who will just sweat his toy / asset called Celtic PLC.
McCann took control of Celtic and, immediately….I smelt a rat.
Brian Dempsey announced that he wouldn’t be going onto the ‘bored’ and, he certainly didn’t look very happy to make that decision.
Brian Dempsey, Willie Haughey, Michael MacDonald, Gerald Wieszfeld, Dominic Keane, Len Murray…..all – disappeared and Fergus McCann ‘plasticised’ Celtic FC.
John Keane, the type of ‘rebel’ that appeals to McCann – a subservient one – is the only surviving member of the initial ‘rebels’ today.
Fergus brought in a, still wet behind the ears manager in the late Tommy Burns(RIP) whom, I think….Fergus destroyed both as a football manager and as a person.
Why would such a, let me get this right….hero? genius? savvy business-man? shrewdy?
slayer of the huns?…bring in a manager who had one year’s experience in the SPL
with Kilmarnock to stop a hun-juggernaut that was – at that point – going for 7 in a row?
Fergus was for some, a legendary figure but, for me….he enjoys massive, re-writing of history from within his own flock to the extent that, next we’ll be reading that the stadium should be named after him. For me….Fergus brought in a manager whom he could bully.
He got rid of Lou or, Luigi Macari cos, Macari wouldn’t fit into McCann’s pocket. imho
Macari had the right idea…play the ‘myth’ at his own game ie: park the bus.
Macari did this to the ‘myth’ at ibrokes one day when there were no Celtic fans allowed into the stadium. Macari was going to the WCF’s in America to look at some midfield ‘battling ball-winners’ ie: Peter Grants days were numbered. Even the chef from the army who Macari brought in – Gary Holt – would have been an improvement on Grant imho.
Instead, TB(RIP) assembled a clique-cronyism environment consisting of, in the main….TB himself, his two ex-team mates Grant and McStay. to cut a long story short…Fergus handed the huns 9 in a row on a plate with his bullying decisions. The only black-sheep if ye like was the best player at the club, at that time….John Collins.
McStay was ‘done’ mainly down to all those years of towing a caravan called Peter Grant after enjoying what, 8 years of having the ‘best’ workhorse that I have seen in a Celtic jersey – Murdo(The Real Highlander) Macleod. imho
McCann saw Collins as Celtic’s only saleable asset and, set out to get rid of him. He tried to get JC to both – Derby County and, Middlesboro?!?!
I will always salute John Collins for having the ‘balls’ to tell McCann were to get off.
A couple of years later the talents of Johnny Collins would be, showcased in the CLSF with Monaco a club whom McCann embarrassingly pursued for cash for JC only to hit a brick wall, he later went on one of his similar pursuits of Mark Viduka but, thing is, if McCann was successful and got payment for JC… how much of it would have found it’s way back onto the pitch?
The more things change – the more they stay the same, eh? :)
The ‘plastic’ version of Celtic has scunnered me off.
It’s almost as though – 35k – of Celtic ‘supporters’ are given a jag in the back of the head as they enter CP and suddenly….the world is a better place.
The ‘plasticness’ has been pierced for what, 7 years of the KOK'(including 5 MO’N years and, one from Wim) Neils’ 1st season and, who knows what will happen with the current guy RD?
I stopped going because of financial difficulties stopping my SB as MO’N left and, with the ‘bored’ rubber-stamping my decision with their coincidental announcement that they’d be embarking on a down-sizing spree which, goes on to the present day. How many years has the down-sizing been going on for? 9 years?
I have,how shall I say it, become more affluent and could buy a SB again. The temptation was growing for this season as I thought a new, Jungle-type of standing area was going to be built? I fear that the ‘bored’ will envisage the Green Brigade’s numbers will vastly increase so will probably ‘sneak’ their way oot it.
My family bought into all the share-issues and me being the suspicious one…side-stepped it.
I try to explain to them that they are being – had on a grand ole scale – by the ‘bored’ but, apathy reigns even in my own home :)
I hope you continue to post and again, me being suspicious… that you’ll not have to try too hard to, suss-oot those on here who are wearing their veils and shedding crocodile tears at your imminent departure :)
On here…will need a series of ‘shocking / dramatic / events’ to shake them from their apathy, which is a shame. imho
As the penny drops around Timdom that, the ‘supporters’ are being used….more folk will come to ‘your’ light.
Maybe, it’ll take a leak from somebody as to – how the huns, who don’t have a cash-line but, seem to come across hidden / planted bags of wonga to get them along and – how Celtic take in tens of £millions yet, are recruiting loan players?
Aye well, Neganon 2….the Celtic ‘supporters’ canny say – they wurny telt. eh?
Keep posting mate – the apples will grow again – CSC
Hail Hail and, if there’s a God let his light be seen around you.
Nye Bevans’ rebel soldier
08:52 on 22 August, 2014
petec….God bless, you’ll not be alone my fhriend,
Off oot tae enjoy the day, be nice!!!
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Enjoy yer day Oh Ghreat Wan:)))
Hail Hail
NegAnon2
09:04 on
22 August, 2014
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Mate, chill.
It’s a blog, you can say what you want.
Personally, I like my thoughts challenged, I enjoy reading everyone’s different take on the same subjects, we are all different, that’s to be celebrated.
If someone starts getting ‘personal’ or agressive, they have lost the arguement. That’s why many are turned off by aggerssive and incessant YES bloggers.
See what I did there? ;-)
I see the media are reporting this morning that Legia Warsaw defeated Aktobe 1-0 in the EL last night….
What actually happened was Aktobe won 4-2, but after the match the referee noticed the Aktobe’s goalie studs were showing and they had to forfeit the match 1-0…..
No that ye’ll read about it in the DR.
petec
I would stick with the back 4. They need time to gel.
I would like to see Efe in the midfield holding role. The Wanyama position. I have said this since Victor left us.
Going forward I think Commons and Griffiths may start. Subs will be important. Big game on Tuesday so I expect a couple of players to be hooked early 2nd half.
Hoping Berget continues to improve. I think there is a very good player there and him and Johansen seem to have an understanding already.
The team is still bonding. I think there is a lot more to come.
LB
livibhoy
our national broadcaster has decided that our national league is the EPL. This is how ii justifies the huge disparity in what is paid for football rights.
weeminger
09:14 on 22 August, 2014
‘How do the players get home from Barrowfield? I doubt any of them live within walking distance of Celtic Park.’
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When he first arrived big Artur used to walk home through Brigton wearing his Celtic tracksuit.
joe millers shorts
09:21 on 22 August, 2014
‘livibhoy
our national broadcaster has decided that our national league is the EPL. This is how ii justifies the huge disparity in what is paid for football rights.’
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They might have been influenced by the viewing figures though.
Livibhoy
All the mutterings suggest VVD will no longer be of this parish come 1 September which is a pity but tomorrow is not a day to experiment with Tuesday in mind.
Keep the back 5 in place, rotate the midfielders with subs and rests and put Griff and Stokes up front….
Neganon
Good Morning to you — we do not usually exchange views but I do read yours …… regularly.
I disagree with you on something — there is a shock!
You say nothing is changing, and there I disagree with you.
The topic of your main criticism, namely that the board are downsizing, lack football ambition, and generally look after the interests of PLC rather than club is clearly not changing, or at best is not changing quickly enough, in your eyes.
There will be many who agree with you, and in certain respects I may be one.
What I would say is that in my opinion there is change taking place. At times it may not be the right change and it may not go at the right pace but there is material change underway.
Not only that, I believe that such change by its very being will change the aims of the board and the PLC — perhaps in ways that they had not anticipated.
I genuinely believe that we are still seeing and feeling the errors made under Tony Mowbray, who is a good and decent man but who was the wrong fit for Celtic.
Neil Lennon was a rescue ship, but after a period, I am not certain that he too was the right captain of the Celtic ship once it entered less turbulent and troubled waters.
The current manager, and I have expressed great concerns about his judgement and demeanour in the Warsaw games, might just be a really radical appointment who could really propel Celtic in an altogether different direction.
If so, then the board must be given credit for the vision, however they must also be prepared to radically adapt their well worn script to accommodate where RD’s radicalism might take them.
There are aspects in which I believe the approach of the board is wholly wrong, or at least where they have gone down the wrong road. The approach to Stewarding and Policing is one such area where they should constantly re-examine their procedures.
They also need to look at buying policy, youth development, and key factor ratios relating to both player spend and direct interaction with the customer base.
However, that can sound like the start of a business lecture or management session, and I don’t want to do that or go there, but I believe that there is change on the way.
The issue is whether that change is sufficiently radical and whether it will enhance the footballing reputation ( for that is the key business of the PLC ) of the club, and whether it improves and encourages an ever growing customer base which should be the aim of any business.
In other words, Celtic Football Club should never lose site of the football and/or the fans, and management change should enhance and better the experience of both.
Maybe….. just maybe……
Cheers
BRTH
( now off out to a series of meetings and to run around like a clown )
Livibhoy
Why would you wish to see Efe in the midfield ??
Folks can’t make game tomorrow, I got 2 tickets (directly behind goal)
£25 quid each
Old tim
At time of posting, there was availability on this site:
http://uk.hotels.com
Also Premier Inn in George Sq available on its website for £99.
big wavy
If he goes he goes. I have never been one to cry over players who want to leave.
We will move on.
….PFayr supports WeeOscar
He started his career there and plays right back for his country due to them having nobody else and played centre back for Celtic due to us having nobody else at the time.
He looks more suited to midfield than defence to me and should be tried there.
Just my opinion of course.
LB
I was on the Final Whistle Radio show last night on Pulse FM local radio.
Anyone interested in hearing me talk complete rubbish can come to one of my meetings today or alternatively listen here:
http://www.scotzine.com/2014/08/the-final-whistle-podcast-celtic-in-champions-league-spfl-weekend-action-and-snodgrass-injury/
Sympathy for Gascogne? Tell that to that lady who had to clean up what he left in the bath at Celtic park after a game, where are all his pals who said he was the greatest, and he was only joking when he was imitating playing a flute at the bequest of thousands of Huns, aye right, may as well forgive the EBTs and the qualifying to the CL for thems while your at it, listen, make no mistake because we are in a good place right now never forget what that mob where like and still are, drop your gaurd and you’ll get it right in the neck, Gascogne ? Nothing to do with us, he cann deal with his own demons, and as I said at that time he had plenty of pals, let them fix what they made, not our, well my problem, if he wants sympathy he will find it in the Oxford English Dictionary, it’s between sh!t & Syphilis.
I imagine SKY have an input as to when the highlights of the Scottish football is shown, given that they hold most of the rights to football up here.
It used to be the case, certainly last season, that BBC online highlights were not available until a particular time on a Sunday night. 2300/0000 maybe?
Re: Neganon
As for missing NEGANON , that wont be me, as he has nothing good to say about Celtic. . In any situation there will always be room for improvement, but when someone can only see the bad they have a problem. Personally I just scroll down past his posts so it does bot bother me either way and I do not try to engage.
I have read all these arguments that we should break the bank and sign a £10M player or words to that effect.
No one has in these argument considered the impact this will have on our team:
1. Team moral and unity:
Football is a team sport and once we have a player earning substantially more than the others the team unity will go to pot in most environment. We are all human and the green eye monster will creep in when Mr A is earning twice your salary. Other players when it comes to renewing their contract will also want more to bring then more in line with the new player…in other words it pushes our cost base up. Has anyone assessed if we can sustain move our cost base by x% going forward.
{Both Neil Lennon and Ronny has referred to the impact of a big earner on their squad spirit .. but we all know and think different on BB}
2. The player we will get will always be a player who no team from England PL or Championship wants. These leagues will always outbid and out-pay us and they are stronger.
3. UK laws on foreign player.
Teams from other EU countries have the advantage of being able to recruit young talents from Africa , South America etc at a fraction of our wages. UK laws mean that we can only recruit these players unless they are international.. and have played 75% of their most recent fixtures for their countries. We cannot recruit any talent who is not an international player unless the player is from EU zone.
4. Strength of Scottish league.
If I am already an established player, I would not join Celtic for all the money in the world… it is career suicide. Unless I have no thoughts of playing at a higher level. If I am up and coming then I will use then as a means of exposure.. within Europa or Champions League to get a move somewhere else. Sad but that is where we are.
Most player coming to us are using us for exposure so do not be surprised if they are off as soon as any team from the big league makes eyes at them. It does not matter that they are in contract if a player wants to go then they go and their agents will not be doing their job if they are not running about ramping their player to other teams. All Celtic can do is insist that we get a going rate for them. No point trying to hold down a player that has his mind made us that we have served our usefulness.
5: Our ceiling is to get into the Champions League not win it, ( at least until the footballing environment changes}
Even if we bought three £10M player that may just guarantee us to get into the Champion league. Once there if we are paired with teams that are now spending £30M upwards per player then the natural order is that we will be lose. We will still have to service our obligations to these players for the length of their contract.
The way forward for us then is not to try and compete in buying expensive players but to develop our own champion league caliber players .. just as Ajax does.
Personally I think the board should think long term and pour more money into the academy and hopefully we have a manager that is willing to set up a structure that will put us on par with Ajax.
That is my tuppence worth. I will now go to my normal lurking.
ernie lynch
09:22 on
22 August, 2014
Yes, but we all know he’s mental.
I try to not post TheRangers stuff but this (In The Scotsman) is both totally predictable and totally incredible.. (or maybe that should be uncredible)
George Soros team rubbish Green link
Sources close to George Soros have dismissed claims that he is ready to buy into Rangers . Former Rangers chief executive Charles Green has spoken of his desire to front a £10m takeover of the Ibrox club with backing from US billionaire George Soros.
However the Union of Fans say they been informed by senior representatives of Soros’s fund management firm that they have never heard of Charles Green and have no interest in investing in Rangers. (Record)
KevJungle,who misses, Murdo Macleod’s – ball-winning,hun-skelping,title-winning,net-bursting,Jungle-party-inducing-displays,in the hoops 09:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gn9WWliz_zg
Computer has crashed and burned, the Amazing FFM was explaining to me that the Playstation dying, I love gaming, not so much on ps3 but I play FIFA on it, he was telling me to take my napper oot the sand, I warn people about things that I can’t resist.
I reckon you are the same, a lot more power to your Kevlar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUpELoPTZwI
Neganon2 –
In any walk of life, when there are two opposing points of view, there will always be supporters of both camps. Even after years of debate, there is always going to be division between the two sides. It is human nature. Some people will indeed change their point of view and join the opposite camp, but the majority, on both sides, will remain entrenched.
Reading your earlier cris de ceour you appear to be holding your hand up in despair because there are still people maintaining the opposite stance to your own.
I remember being involved in a political debate in the pub one night. After I had left for home, my protagonist made the comment, “I never knew Tom could be so stubborn.”
In other words, at the end of the debate, we both stuck to our guns, but I was stubborn, and he was in the right.
I recalled that incident when I read your post. With all due respect, you have no right to get angry just because “after 2 years” there are still people on CQN with an opposite view to your own Different people have their own outlook on various things. We all believe our own stance is the correct one. What gives you the right to claim the moral high ground? Why get upset because there are still dissenting voices out their?
Also, you do yourself no favours by asserting that your opponents lack intelligence and intellectual capacity, both of which, by implication, you apparently have in abundance.
Obviously we have locked horns more than once and I rarely agree with you, but I do enjoy your contributions and know you are a true Celt who speaks from the heart and shoots from the hip.
The blog would be a poorer place without you. Just don’t expect the impossible.
Hail Hail.
tonydonnelly67
I disagree. This is a guy with clear mental and health problems bedevilling him for years now and clearly played its part in the ‘daft’ behaviours he showed when playing for them. I feel nothing but pity for the guy now that everyone around has disappeared and he’s left unable to cope with his demons.
Would say something about our own humanity if we didn’t feel something for him no ?
tonydonnelly67
09:31 on 22 August, 2014
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Yer beloved PL and his, ‘bored’ of directors – forgave the huns for the EBT’s and, all the CL money that they ‘stole’ form Celtic’s ‘supporters’ / shareholders by, looking the other way when the MIB’s were making sure on the pitch for the huns, Celtic’s chairman of those days came out with his own smokescreen with a load of BS re: ‘The Dossier’ then – meekly – saying – “We’re surprised!” after LNS was conveniently duped.
Aye right.
Oh aye and, the ‘bored’ called the died team – Rangers FC – at last seasons Glasgow Cup Final.
Any ‘bored’ members who might be lurking – GIRFUY!!!
Hail Hail
For me the balance of the fans needs and the business needs are not ‘in balance’
I get the impression the board do not hear us, or if they do, we are ignored, both are unacceptable.
There is a serious issue with respect to the policing of our support. Since when have we ever had a ‘hooligan’ element that requires the draconian and aggressive policing we are subjected to?
A personal gripe of mine is the clubs capitulation in accomodating the TV. Has the club ever tried to work out how many season books/match day revenue is lost to cater for games moved from 3 on a Saturday? Does the TV income compensate?
petec
09:39 on 22 August, 2014
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Nice choon – thanks.
Sumdy showed me on here, one day…how to play choons from youtube.
The poster gave me all the info that I needed…..I nearly ended up in China!
FMM, I’ll joost stay a fogie :)
Hail Hail
LiviBhoy
09:30 on 22 August, 2014
You’re 100% correct about Efe, from Wiki:
“Ambrose often played as a defensive midfielder for the Nigeria national football team and can also play as a centre back or right back”
The Herald is reporting that Jim McColl has made a bid for Ferguson’s Yard.
I am pleased that he has finally found a troubled business in the west of Scotland worth investing in after all this time.