Since a couple of flat performances against Sion in the qualifying round, Celtic have reserved some of their most organised performances of the season for the Europa League, despite the lack of a victory. Honourable defeat in Madrid followed by more-than-credible draws against Udinese and Rennes suggest there is more to this Celtic team that we see in the SPL.
It’s hard to look forward to the second half of the season and the potential for knock out football in the Europa League but if Celtic get their act together, a win tonight could go a long way towards restoring the reputation of the club, and a few players.
How Neil Lennon responds to yet more injury absentees is difficult to imagine. I’m not expecting fluency from a makeshift defence and midfield, although Celtic Flourished in the Glasgow derby in similar circumstances on 2 January this year, but I’m hoping to see Gary Hooper and Anthony Stokes look more like a partnership. We need both players on form and enjoying their work if any progress is to be made.
Busy day ahead but the Hearts situation is possibly worth a discussion this afternoon. The scenario changes by the day at Ibrox but that conversation will need to wait.
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These Vanguard Bears don’t hold back do they?
These types of probing questions about the future of their club are really important and yet they settle for one word answers.
VB – Do you have a value in mind that you could settle at with HMRC that could allow the club to pay off any amount due, should Rangers lose the “main” case against the organisation, and avoid the scenario of Administration or Insolvency?
CW – Yes, although that value is sensitive
VB – Would that value be paid directly without offsetting against future season ticket revenue?
CW – Yes
VB – Are you confident of winning the case?
CW – Yes
The following question should read ‘Why are we not controlling Scottish Football?’
VB- We’ve have no representation on either the SFA professional board or the SPL board since Martin Bain has left? With Peter Lawwell, Eric Riley & Stephen Thompson among those now in senior positions there seems little influence for Rangers within the management circles of Scottish Football
The answer should read ‘They won’t let us’
CW – The SPL is democratic, and Ali Russell will take over from Eric Riley at the SPL next year. The SFA has obviously been through some restructuring which we will monitor throughout the coming months.
This is comedy gold!
VB – The previous management at Rangers attempted a Share issue, which was undersubscribed, largely due to a lack of trust between the support and the custodian. Is this an avenue that you have considered?
CW – It’s not something we have considered to any great degree. Do you think the support would invest?
VB – If given confidence that the money would be used wisely, yes
Whyte’s response to that answer must have been ‘Oh ya dancer’
Lastly the shameful question.
VB – We understand that there was an incident in the Tunnel at Ibrox before you bought the club, where an opposition manager is rumoured to have racially abused Vladimir Weiss and El Hadj Diouf. Did this happen, and if so, why weren’t the press told? Do the club have evidence?
CW – I wasn’t here, so can’t comment. We don’t want anyone to lose their job do we?
If Rangers had any evidence it would be out there. Do you think Swally is concerned that the whisper in Neil’s ear is going to go public?
This alledged racist abuse wasn’t even mentioned before this incident.
They are really the lowest of the low.
LB
more hysterical lunatic ramblings from the darkside, this time from rangers media. i seriously dont wish to share the same planet as these delusional dimwits. at least, i’m a few hundred miles away living in the relative sanity of nw england. feel sorry for the scots based bhoys having to read/hear/see their hate-filled poisonous paranoia daily. anyway, take it away you hun bampot:
“I am sick to death of the media telling me what I am thinking and that my club Rangers is in free-fall and pending death and whilst all Rangers fans are having sleepless nights, the journalists too are up during the wee small hours, but they are sitting at their laptops inventing more lies and exaggerations with which to defile our club.
It’s become a phantom feeding frenzy. The carcass of financial ruin has been picked clean and only the bones are left. Yet these hyenas are so crowded around the skeleton that we can’t see what really is happening.
What they are doing however is crowding and gorging on the wrong creature. For them, Rangers is a boardroom. An oak panelled suite where living dinosaurs (crocodiles) come and go only to govern the real club called Rangers. That real club is on the park and the terraces. It is not on balance sheets and bank statements, it is goal mouths and league tables that represent the real Rangers. In short it’s us, the people.
I have never heard of a football fan anywhere in the world that buys a season ticket to sit in a boardroom and sing songs and argue about the attack and defence of financial accounting practices.
The media can’t touch US (though they try with their complaints about songs and flags) because we are far too big, too healthy and too clever for their pathetic practices. They can only hit the boardroom with all its secrets and sharp practices.
That has nothing to do with players, the ground or the fans.
We are not fearful nor do we really, really care about the clandestine movers and shakers in the board room. Every true loving Rangers fan (or any other fan of their own club) looks first and foremost every week at the results. Never at the balance sheet.
If this club should be re-branded, re-decorated, removed to a new base or regurgitated as the same the fans will remain as constant as the stars in the sky. We are the custodians of Rangers. By the very nature that we follow the results whether it be on the Internet or the Copland stand it is we who truly OWN the club.
If WE decide to walk away, all of us, it matters not a flying fig what they do in the boardroom or what the journalists say. The club will die. The end. What they do in the boardroom and the pages of their disgusting rags will make no fatalistic blow to RANGERS. On the extreme example, look at Wimbledon FC.
Yet, not one university trained, arse licking journalist or TV presenter has the fundamental intelligence to understand this. They are brainwashed into thinking that they are the voice, the judge and jury presiding over Rangers. They spin a web of lies, deceit, conceit and downright scaremongering and spread bad news everywhere they can. The truth of the matter is they will never achieve their aim because those who read their lies and believe them have not one concern for Scottish football or Scotland for that matter in the first place. They are preaching to the deaf and the disinterested.
Rangers is as much a part of the fabric of Scottish society as the river Clyde. Ask anyone who has the slightest knowledge of Scotland to list things they know about Scotland and the survey will inevitably come back with Rangers FC amongst the other iconic items. They might even say King Robert the Bruce too btw and everyone will lament about how he fought and died for the cause that is the nation called Scotland. They won’t be dismissed because Bruce was a murdering git and his arch enemy was a useless numpty, unlike his father who had the Scots by the throat for a generation before. They will agree that Robert the Bruce was a very proud piece in the jigsaw that makes up Scotland.
The journalist will stand up for Robert the Bruce to the last. But they will spit and howl at the sound of Rangers name.
Not one journalist has the guts to stand up for this famous Scottish institution. The club that helped to create the reputation from the very beginning, that Scotland and football and the country as a whole has much to be proud of. The millions of fans around the world that by virtue of being Scottish and Rangers fans sell Scotland every bit as much as any marketing company for any product. The media would have you believe they are all charlatans and sad cases of misdirected beliefs.
Rangers is a football club. It is not a bank or an oil prospector churning up the countryside and destroying livelihoods. It is a tangible entity that any other country would be proud of to have on their soil. It promotes and generates far more good amongst communities than it spoils. It stands for everything that a football club should. It is a magnet for social and leisure activities. Like any other institution it also attracts bad elements. That’s the way of life and society in general but the media would have you believe that it is unique to just Rangers.
In any other nation, politicians, the media and the people at large would be defending the reputation of the club during such times as these. Scotland suffers from the bipolar vision of a sick political system and an even sicker media sector. They only peddle scandal and outrage and if there is none they will invent it.
Rangers FC Ltd may go into administration, they may require intensive care after major surgery. But Rangers as a football club will always be what the fans pay their money to go and see. A successful and proud institution that no man can put asunder, however hard he tries.
Never before has the cry No Surrender been more appropriate amongst the true custodians than it is today.
The rest is wasted ink and celluloid …Saturday, 5th November, 3:00pm
Ibrox Stadium, Glasgow
V ”
lol!
Sammie will score if he starts tonight, bet of the day!! :)
TheGreenManalishi(WithTheTwoProngedCrown) says:
3 November, 2011 at 16:16
I know the Harp mate. If you get a minute drop me your mobile to tomtheleedstim@gmail.com and if i get a chnace I’ll give you a ring. might be better on another night though as I live about 10 miles away near the airport and will be in the car.
Just catching up and had to laugh at Whyte telling the huns that administration was Plan D.
They obviously lapped this up thinking all is rosy but he neglected to tell them that Plans A (Qualification for Champs league) and B (qualification for Europa league) are no longer goers and that Plan C involved a payday loan got out last Friday with the hope of keeping them afloat until Jan to sell off the players.
Plan D is very fast becoming Plan A.
Mort
a beating tonight will be damaging to the club’s morale and image. A Club the size of ours should not be phased by 2 upcoming games against Rennes and Motherwell. This talk of ‘play the kids’ etc is naive – we need to get a strong side on the park tonight, and win the game – which will give the whole squad a boost ahead of the weekend.
perhaps not a full first XI, but enough experienced bodies on there tro deal with a pacy skilfull rennes team.
Neil has to then make sure these experienced guys are motivated to perform. can he do that? i’m not so sure….
Celtic v Real Madrid 1980 on ESPN classics channel tonight 10:30pm .
Afternoon folks. We got enough fit players to field a side tonight??
Proof Fraser Forster is in the stands tonight
merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and will always be thankful to him for standing up to the bigots and the cowards says:
3 November, 2011 at 16:33
Mark Hately article?
LB
Mort 3 November, 2011 at 16:35
“Just catching up and had to laugh at Whyte telling the huns that administration was Plan D.”
That was a typo!
He actually said administration was planneD.
merseycelt
Seems like a call to the brethern, some of them have the nous to see what is happening and are circling the wagons, tis the only way they know.
!!Bada Bing!! says:
3 November, 2011 at 16:37
My brother informed me last week, that was our 1st European game, I was 7. Incidently I have the home and away programmes for those games in ma “wee” Celtic box. Will need to SKY Plusit
hh
tomtheleedstim
reply on it’s way to you.
H H
bjmac at 16:40
What are you doing standing behind him?
Mort
The Honest Mistake (Sickened) at 16:40
Ah, should have known.
Mort
Rubin Kazan v Spurs on ITV 4 now, 5pm ko
When the huns go belly up the palptalk loyal will blame Scottish football. No finger will be pointed at Sir David Murray apart from possibly Britney. They were all on his payroll and Sir David has the receipts to prove it. Craig Whyte never had the resources to indulge them.
HH
Vanguard Bears eh?
Now there’s a moniker if ever I heard one,
Strange breed (not be confused by Hovis thick slice which is strange Bread) this Hun mob they’ve always got to be guarding something, If they’re not Guarding Derrys Walls or their Secrets at wee Lodge meetings they’re guarding Vans
All very strange indeed.
merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and will always be thankful to him for standing up to the bigots and the cowards says:
3 November, 2011 at 16:33
‘It (hunnery) is a tangible entity that any other country would be proud of to have on their soil.’
This rst/ff/rfc guy has just invented a new benchmark for delusion. It’s like the ravings of the Storm-Trooper in ‘The Producers’.
We went to Ibrox on 2nd January in terrible form and decimated by injury, many would have taken a draw and any sparing of humiliation. Wee Izzy knocked one onto the bar from a McCullough header after 6 minutes. From that moment our season turned around, we beat the huns 3 times, we won the cup and lost the league by the width of a midges dental floss.
Tonight is the time to resurrect ourselves and never look back.
I believe.
Hail Hail
Bjmac-i was in the Jungle, it went mental when Johnny Doyle headed in that famous goal,cue looks of disbelief.
Thomthetim/The Exiled Tim
You are not seriously equating Scotland with 1930s Germany are you? Seriously
Good afternoon friends (and work colleagues if you’re still lurking!)
Looks like it’s going to be a wet and blustery evening at The Park but really hoping that a SUPPORTIVE crowd roars The Bhoys on to victory. With so many out the team almost picks itself although the suggestion earlier about Sami filling in at central defence caught my eye! More realsiticsally, is Loovens fit?
Jobo
WITH evrey thing at stake tonight .i expect celtic to win if the players have anything in them they wont leave the pitch defeated at worst .
Another thing i dnt have to much to say about the hunfest as such i will belive what happens when it HAPPENS .
Despite everything we hear and read .
WHYTE is like one of the guys who do the find the queen trick on street corners we all think we know what he is doing and are watching him move it in front of our eyes but will he still hide the lady away from us when we put our finger on it .
is scottish football ready and possibly hmrc for this guys slight of hand after all its what he does best ….. i am begining to wonder if people are underestimating him if anybody was ever going to find a way out of hun fc problems .it was a guy like that .
I predict the hum will not go into admin anytime soon and he will sell 1/2 to0 get him thru the year maybe next close season maybe never .i remain of the view this guy is a slippery customer
thomthethim, Celtic_First – thanks for your kind words. Never really been gone tbh. Scratching my head a little at the notion of an atheist being missed in a parish, but I think I get the drift!
ESPN Classics
I remember well the elation of that night, hope tonight is the same.
MON THE HOOPS
The Abbot of Clonmacnois has just finished a had a hard-hitting, no-nonsense, straight-talking interview with the fantastic Mr Craig Whyte.
Abbot: Mr Whyte, are you a billionaire?
CW: Yes.
Abbot: Are you brilliant?
CW: Yes.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about HMRC’s EBT case?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about HMRC’s Discounted Share Option case?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about the Close Brothers fixed charge security over Rangers assets?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about Capita Trustees suing Rangers?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about Levy & McRae suing Rangers?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about Martin Bain suing Rangers?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about Donald McIntyre suing Rangers?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: What does Gordon Smith do?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… Nothing.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about John Greig?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: Do you want to say anything about John McClelland?
CW: Aaayyyyyyeeeeeee… No.
Abbot: So everything’s fabby doo then?
CW: Very fabby doo.
Abbot: Thanks the fantastic Mr Whyte.
CW: You’re very welcome.
Jobo Baldie says:
3 November, 2011 at 16:47
Wanyama could also play CH.
Don’t know if you got my post last Friday, Patricia sends her warm regards, as does Margaret. They couldn’t believe we “knew” each other ;-)
Hope all is well, not been on much recently, so missed your weather reports in the morning.
hh
bjmac
bjmac –
yes all is well and I did indeed get your rambling messages!
Jobo
I tried folks, but he’s very good.
WGS on itv4 covering the Spurs Game.
HH
A few Rennes supporters in town today, they seem a good bunch, the piper on Argyll St must have got his bag fixed after me bursting it and has been coining it in all afternoon – me, well I’m still totally sick of bagpipes.
hh
bjmac
I have a couple of tickets for Sunday if anybody interested e-mail me lennybhoycfc@gmail.com
Include your moby number on the mail…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
bjmac
count yourself lucky, I’m soon to be receiving new neighbours for my stroll through Kelvingrove of a lunchtime….
blantyretim says:
3 November, 2011 at 17:04
Are the huns going to train there ?
Do you think they’ll just through doon the jumpers for posts?
I’ve fond memories of spending most of my university career between Kelvingrove wi a carryoot and Jinty’s if I was haudin’ (by selling my brother’s cds)
hh
bjmac
All you need to know about the deluded and dangerous VB
NewsNow BANS Hun Site~~~ World Wide Alert Goes Out For The Inevitable Repercussions
The obnoxious and deplorable Rangers web site “Vanguard Bears” has been banned from the news feed site NewsNow…..for continuously publishing unacceptable and vile news feeds that go world wide, most of the stuff that emanates from the poison pens of these moronic mindless excuses for human beings is indeed full of bigoted, racist, sectarian bile that in the real world would see these obnoxious twats locked up for crimes against humanity Well done NewsNow.
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bjmac
no, the tents are being moved from George Sq to Kelvingrove park..
I may offer them all a benefit check up….. o)))