Scouting, your network keeps you, Pep and Patrick

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I remember one of the Q&A evenings in Blantyre when it was suggested from the floor that Celtic pay whatever money necessary to retain John Park as chief scout.  John out-performed his peers for several years, but, as you know, there are no gurus in football.  A fallow period followed the recruitment of Mikael Lustig in January 2012; many players arrived in the years since then but few were able to enhance the team (with the odd outstanding exception).

Football scouting at this level isn’t really about being able to spot a player, it is as much about contacts.  Your network keeps you.  With many of these guys, their networks diminish over time.  They fall out with each other regularly – trust is a precious commodity in football transfer negociations.  Your value as a scout to an agent is largely dependent on your club.  Since 2012 Celtic’s financial position relative to the English leagues has diminished.  We will spend less than they will on any given player, and we will buy fewer players.

Perhaps for these reasons Brendan Rodgers decided a change was needed and has now secured his former colleague at Chelsea, Lee Congerton.  Congerton has had recent spells at two highly dysfunctional clubs: Hamburg and Sunderland, but rejected a pretty spectacular offer to join Brendan’s revolution at Celtic.  We have recruited a known quantity who will fit with the manager’s plans as closely as Chris Davies does.  He will also bring a fresh batch of scouts and agents to the table.  I hear they are working on plans for the summer already.

Amid the gloating at the hubris of English football amid another humbling in Europe last night, my Dad made the point that unlike Arsenal, or Manchester United, Manchester City didn’t try to cheat us by scamming a penalty in our Champions League encounters. They played with a straight bat.

We have also established a beneficial relationship with them. A year with Jason Denayer, the purchase of Dedryck Boyata and 18 months with Patrick Roberts. So far.

Roberts’ situation at his parent club should be easier to fathom after City’s exit. 10 points adrift in the Premier League and the only team to be eliminated from the Champions League last 16 by a lesser- moneyed side, what chance Pep Guardiola decides what his team needs for next season is a player City shipped out to Celtic in January 2016?

It is not going to happen. Patrick is caught in an impossible situation in Manchester. The Manchester City football model harvests innumerable players, but precious few young English players will make it onto the roster in any decade. None will do so in a season when there is a perceived need for them to up their game.  Pep will spend big this summer, Roberts’ opportunity to breakthrough in Manchester next season have diminished.

My first reaction at full time last night? Our chances of getting to keep Patrick increased.  Which would be a very good thing, for both club and player.

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  1. Delaneys Dunky on

    TGM

     

     

    Arguing about politics is like arguing about something that is fixed and can never be changed.

     

    Anarchy is the only way.

     

    End hunger. Eat the rich.

  2. SINCITYBHOY

     

    How’s things in Vegas ? Cold & wet here in South Ayrshire but off to Lanzarote on Monday so heading for warmer climes ! HH !

  3. Delaneys Dunky on

    TGM

     

     

    They should go by the guillotine. More humane than what Saint John Ogilvie suffered at Glasgow Cross.

  4. THETIMREAPER,

     

    Thanks, but those numbers and annual payments don’t quite add up then.

     

    According to Mark Daly he made more than a dozen payments including one of £1m to his £6.3m total.

     

    The annual invoices, which were always the same figure and I’m presuming nine as there can’t be any more just won’t give that figure or fit that pattern, which leads me to think they are separate. I am speculating so am happy to be corrected

  5. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    DD

     

     

    Major Thomas Weir (The Bowhead Saint) fundamentalist Covenanter 1660s….Satan worshipper and warlock.

     

    And they had the cheek to burn St John Ogilvie.

     

     

     

    HH

  6. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Just read Jim Stewart has been given the bullet from the Sevco back room staff….

     

    I doubt Pedro didn’t realise ‘Big Jim’ was a ‘player’ in the Mother Lodge (No. 0 ) Kilwinning.

     

    Hope Pedro kept his old rosary beads :) :) .

  7. Delaneys Dunky on

    CCB

     

     

    At Love Street 1986, big Jim Stewart was my favourite goale.

     

    The time was five past Stewart and Celtic were Champions. Thanks to Albert Kidd too. :)

  8. O.G.RAFFERTY on 16TH MARCH 2017 11:09 PM

     

     

    To be honest I don’t know what the total figure was, I’m just going by what i read somewhere. I suspect Murray will want to quietly settle his tax bill with HMRC and hope there is no desire to prosecute a Knight of the Realm.

  9. VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on

    ERNIE LYNCH on 16TH MARCH 2017 10:39 PM

     

     

    That’s why you don’t win the debate Ernie; unwilling to present a cogent argument or answer a straight question.

     

     

    You are the weakest link; goodbye!

     

     

     

    KTF

  10. Somebody mentioned politics for the 1% earlier and it got me thinking….

     

     

    Sobering fact of the day.

     

     

    The 8 wealthiest men in the world have as much financial wealth as the poorest half of the worlds population ( 3.6 billion people) .

  11. Full list of EBT Recipients

     

     

    EBT assigned to RFC and sub trust number – Excludes MIH

     

     

    x denotes previously unknown

     

     

    Alan Hutton 99

     

    Alex McLeish 29

     

    Alex Rae 79

     

    Andre Kanchelskis 34

     

    Andrew Dickson 53

     

    Andy Watson 45 x

     

    Arthur Numann 15

     

    Barry Ferguson 6

     

    Bert Konterman 51

     

    Bert Van Lingen 30

     

    Billy Dodds 44

     

    Bob Malcolm 93

     

    Bob Reilly 10

     

    Brahim Hemdani 87 x

     

    Campbell Ogilvie 26

     

    Carlos Cuellar 109

     

    Chris Burke 94

     

    Christian Nerlinger 5

     

    Claudio Canniggia 11

     

    Craig Moore 12

     

    Dado Prso 73

     

    Dan Eggan 47

     

    Daniel Cousin 108 x

     

    David Jolliffe 80 x

     

    Dick Advocaat 43

     

    Douglas Odam 25

     

    Dragan Mladenovic 76 x

     

    Egil Ostenstad 62

     

    Emerson Costa 58 x

     

    Federico Nieto 100

     

    Fernando Ricksen 83

     

    Gavin Rae 65

     

    George Adams 89

     

    Graeme Souness 2

     

    Gregory Vignal 81

     

    Ian McGuinness 71

     

    Ian Murray 90

     

    Jan Wouters 52

     

    Jean Alain Boumsong 63

     

    Jerome Bonnissel 48

     

    Jesper Christiansen 64

     

    Joel Le Hir 107

     

    John Greig 40

     

    John McClelland 46

     

    Jose KarlPierre Fan Fan 88 x

     

    Julien Rodrigues 92

     

    Kevin Muscat 36

     

    Kris Boyd 102

     

    Libar Sionko 105

     

    Lorenzo Amoruso 16

     

    Martin Bain 8

     

    Marvin Andrews 75

     

    Maurice Ross 86

     

    Michael Arteta 38

     

    Michael Ball 7

     

    Michael Mols 56

     

    Nacho Novo 72

     

    Neil McCann 13

     

    Nick Peel 9 x

     

    Nuno Capucho 59

     

    Olivier Bernard 96

     

    Paolo Vanoli 61

     

    Paul LeGuen 103

     

    Pedro Mendes 110

     

    Peter Lovenkrands 57

     

    Ronald De Boer 35

     

    Ronald Waterreus 91

     

    Russell Latapy 17 x

     

    Sasa Papac 112

     

    Shota Averladze 14 x

     

    Sitirios Kyriakos 82

     

    Stefan Klos 28

     

    Stephane Wiertelak 106

     

    Steven Davis 111

     

    Steven Smith 101

     

    Steven Thomson 50

     

    Tero Pentilla 33

     

    Thomas Buffel 84

     

    Tommy McLean 69 x

     

    Tore Andre Flo 37

     

    Walter Smith 4 x

     

    Yves Colleau 104

     

    Zurab Kizanishvili 60

  12. Delaneys Dunky on

    MAnH

     

     

    Would love to know the full list of EBT recipiants. Referees on it would be nuclear.

  13. What is the Stars on

    Dbhoy

     

     

    Fake news ( according to some wealthy men)

     

     

    Lets have another war,that’ll take your mind off nonsense like a fair distribution of wealth

     

     

    You proles have been trying that since 1789 and look where its got ye

     

     

    Long Live The KIng

  14. Delaneys Dunky on

    Macjay

     

     

    Hail Glorious Saint Patrick.

     

    On Erin’s green valleys look down in thy love.

  15. WHAT IS THE STARS on 17TH MARCH 2017 12:39 AM

     

    Dbhoy

     

     

     

    Fake news ( according to some wealthy men)

     

     

     

    Lets have another war,that’ll take your mind off nonsense like a fair distribution of wealth

     

     

     

    You proles have been trying that since 1789 and look where its got ye

     

     

     

     

     

    Long Live The KIng

     

    ___________________

     

    WITS

     

    On fair wealth distribution…

     

     

    Studies have shown that greater equality in wealth has benefits for the whole of society in terms of health, education , crime rates and a plethora of other measures.

     

     

    Which stands true when you look at Scandinavian countries and Japan which have much greater income equality than say Us, Uk and others.

     

     

    The spirit level by Richard Wilkinson & Kate Pickett is a great read which argues that financial inequality is the single biggest factor in the majority of the ills in our modern societies

  16. Margaret McGill on

    Dbhoy on 17th March 2017 1:25 am

     

    Japan is an incredible country.

     

    Socialism built on capitalism. As long as your Japanese.