I was surprised Ronny Deila thought immediately after the game that Dedryck Boyata’s red card was valid, from the angle behind the goal it looked a well-time tackle, but let’s deal with the manager’s complaint against the player, who put a challenge in when wrong side of the attacker.
We’ve see three Celtic central defenders in this position in recent weeks: Efe against Ross County, Erik against Inverness and Dedryck last night. Erik was outpaced by Jordan Roberts but instead of risking a challenge from behind his opponent, he stayed on his feet and forced Roberts to shoot under pressure. Efe clumsily barged into his opponent and Dedryck went to ground.
All three got their starting positions wrong, which could have cost a goal, but Ambrose and Boyata compounded the problem by attempting a recovery, also from a wrong position. Sviatchenko chose to put pressure on the player and leave matters up to his goalkeeper. Erik made the right decision, Efe and Dedryck made wrong decisions.
And before Erik relaxes in the glow of praise, it was his unnecessary barge into an opponent which conceded the foul which led to the corner kick Accies equalised through. Don’t give away stupid fouls and you don’t allow opponents to fire the ball into your box.
And yes, the goal we lost came from a corner kick (I’m assuming those who were animated earlier in the season about zonal marking somehow overlook the same lack of ball-winning skills from the same players now we’re marking man-for-man). I’ve never known a team to lose so many goals from corners. We have a collection of players who cannot follow the flight of a football when launched into their box from a corner.
I know there’s a belief that you cannot practice penalty kicks, as the pressure of hitting them during a match changes everything. This is nonsense. Our poor penalty conversion rate over the last five or six years has cost us trophies. Ironically, John Collins has the best penalty conversion rate of any player in Celtic history (who’s taken more than 5). You would think he’d be able to sort this.
Poor technique is a consequence of poor preparation.
When Leigh Griffiths opened the scoring from the penalty spot it came as a great relief, as until then we were unable to create a genuine chance. A big part of the job at Celtic is breaking down packed defences away from home. There are largely two ways to achieve this:
1. Master the act of quick and precise passing
2. Have target men and wide players who are excellent at crossing the ball.
If we don’t have either play in our locker we’re going to drop a lot of points.
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and this:
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By David Lewis
29 FEB 2016 – 10:58 AM UPDATED 10 HOURS AGO
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It’s an impasse which could have repercussions for the national team as Socceroos coach Ange Postecoglou prepares to name his squad for next month’s crucial FIFA World Cup qualifiers against Tajikistan and Jordan.
Rogic, 23, has been conspicuous by his absence from the Bhoys’ last two squads – the 3-0 win over Inverness and the 1-1 draw against Hamilton Academical, as he apparently pays the price for holding out for a better offer.
Though discussions began in November over extending Rogic’s contract beyond mid-2017, it’s believed the playmaker, who has scored six goals in 21 league appearances this season, is far from convinced by the terms on the table.
As a result, the club appear to have taken the same hard-line stance with Rogic as they have with Scottish international winger James Forrest, who has been branded a ‘contract rebel’ for declining to sign a new four-year deal and also effectively banished from the first team squad.
Both played their last games for the Hoops off the bench in the 2-0 win over Aussie Jackson Irvine’s Ross County on 13 February – and have not been sighted in the first team squad since, despite being match fit and keen to help the club push on towards a Scottish Premiership and Scottish Cup double.
Rogic’s concerning absence comes just weeks after Celtic coach Ronny Deila lauded his ability and long-term importance to the club amid intense interest from Championship side Leeds United who were poised to table a $2 million offer.
The Norwegian recently said of Rogic, who has overcome a series of injury setbacks to become a fans’ favourite at Celtic Park in a breakthrough campaign: “He is definitely one of the players that we would like to keep and we are working towards that just now.
“We talk all the time and we are always looking to work on the squad. He is one of the players that we would like to tie up on a long-term deal.
“He’s very important in our team. He has a lovely technique, he has innovation and is creative. The technical aspect he has is the top level.”
However, it appears that with Rogic standing his ground amid increasingly tense negotiations, the club is playing hardball in an attempt to force a climb-down.
Rogic’s frustration at Deila’s brinkmanship will be compounded by the fact that he missed four games with an ankle injury before his return against Ross County, and is desperate not to lose the momentum he has gained this season.
Celtic’s tough approach will not have gone unnoticed by Postecoglou, who was expecting a match-hardened and fully functioning Rogic to help spearhead the Socceroos into the final phase of qualifying for Russia 2018 by brushing past Tajikistan and Jordan to top Group B, with the games in Adelaide and Sydney next month.”
Equals this:
” Looks like Tom Rogic is next for the Exit”
Hmmmm…
Morning all. HH
“‘Chased’ by a host ‘top’ English clubs e.g. Leeds Utd © BBC”
Groundhog day CSC
Rogic is a young lad of 23 with huge potential. Great on the ball,might need a minder to win it for him though.
IMO,it would be madness to let him leave or run down his contract.
In most similar circumstances I would be quick to point out replacement cost,which usually cancels out a received fee,and comes with the risk of failure.
In this case,not so much. We are heavily burdened by midfielders. No need to sign a replacement.
Having said that,there’s a fair few I’d rather lose than Rogic.
Hi,Fra.
Up wi the lark?
JJ smoked
More interesting than the Frankie Knuckles though :)
Morning Timland from a cold hun free mountain valley.
It would be criminal to let Tom Rogic go imo, he has it big time.
Interesting stuff over night, a bit of the drink partaken me thinks, but dearie me, those advocating we do and say nothing cos it hasn’t made any difference in the past, hope you are happy at the back of the bus.
Sounded like a bit of a dig at his keeper from Klopp yesterday.
Wonder if all the Liverpool fans will be demanding he is sacked immediately and replaced by John Hughes?
Murdochauldandhay
I am not so sure 0:-)
Disappointed if Rogic leaves. Starting to look like a top player. Good technique, eye for a pass, two footed and can chip in with a goal or two.
Come on Celtic – get it sorted.
I like the way Celtic are sounding out players at CP, most know that we have too many, and anybody the hints at a move, might just get one, when they think they are too good for the wage scale, in our bankrupt game.
Tom Rogic ponderously slow, and painfully one paced, prone to injury loaned out then rehabilitated over three seasons to eventually give some fleeting always less than 90 minute performances, at Celtic.
Lucky Bhoy CSC
Glasstwothirdsfull
Of course they won`t. Their fans do not have the infallible, clinical perception that ours have.
JJ
Rogic and Forrests situations are symptomatic of our need to cut costs.
The spiral of huge drops in income continues to effect our budget for signing players.
TT
Frankie Knuckles .
My weans really liked Frankie Knuckles . Fond memories of my daughters dancing in the kitchen to Baby Wants To Ride / Your Love ..
BSR
Rogic and Forrest will be no great loss.
If they can get better deals in the mad world of English football ,then they will go.
Why we are even offering these crocks deals is beyond me.
It shows the ineptitude of our management team in my eyes.
TT
Here are some of the key words and expressions in the article which has prompted the `Rogic for the Off `stories:
” could have”;
” apparently” ;
“it`s believed” ;
” the club appears” X 2;
” has been branded” by whom?;
” effectively banned” ie `not selected;
” his concerning absence” Who is concerned?
and finally, ” Leeds were poised to offer$2 million”. Poised? To offer?
Hardly a convincing case that Tom is about to leave!
JJ
The policy is clear. Sign a contract or you will be sold.
Biton and Griffiths signed on and will be here at least another 2 seasons.
Rogic? It’s up to him.
TinyTim
I agree neither would be missed though the Lennoxtown medics may disagree.
Tom Rogic the latest, is another huge fitness gamble, if he isn’t injured before the game, he generally hirples off, during it.
I’d imagine the contract offer is similar in reason to James Forrest’s, granted in the hope that Celtic get a fee from the Championship clubs awash with TV money that sadly Celtic cannot match.
John Collins ran out of contract, now that was a loss.
Non story CSC
I hope that the team get their act together,it seems there was plenty of ‘knuckledragging’ going on here over the weekend as a result.
Thanks to Murdochauldandhay for your post earlier about our Dublin Hootenanny earlier today.
Anyone coming over who wants to go to the ROI v Switzerland match on Good Friday can you let me know on dublin2016@mail.com ?
The tickets are 25 euro with access to bars in the Aviva.
I need to finalise numbers in the next couple of days.
HH
” My family have supported Fiorentina home and away since 1926 . Now we learn that Della Valle regards people like us as ” customers ” . We will no longer go to home games , we will only attend away games .We invite other” customers ” to join us in this action “.
Salvo Garaffa, one of @ 800 Fiorentina Ultras who have been boycotting home games since the owner of Fiorentina , Andrea Della Valle , spoke of his ” customers “
Maybes if the club were to stand up to the cheats with the whistles who allow the cloggers who the to kick us off the park week in week out, we wouldn’t have so many crocks.
Just a thought.
Then we have the likes of Canman who is even thinking about the HS angle to stop it, it’s that bad, and some posters take the mick out of him for it, how fecking sad is that, they are quite happy to see our players getting crocked with impunity and think it’s a laugh.
Stand up to them, bring on another strike.
Why not cut to the chase…….
Get rid of the guy who, brought all these useless drains on resources to the club to be managed by a puppet who widny get a job at any other club ?
The club looked the other way as Dallas weasled his way into Uefa, his masonic-tentacles are still running the referee’s in Scottish fitba.
Ye canny sort the refs till….ye sort the guy’s who fast track them.
Looking for a rudderless / spineless / collusive club to fix the mibs….
…like waiting for the missing 40,000 empty Celtic Park seats to be filled.
SOT
This was in the Guardian,reading down, the piece about Roberto Mancini is quite funny.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/feb/27/chelsea-antonio-conte-gamble-court-case-italy
THE EXILED TIM on 29th February 2016 11:33 am
Yep the fouling with impunity was worse for me on Friday than the red card, which I think was on the 3rd or 4th replay angle before I was convinced of good tackle.
At one point they flashed up stats that had their fouls in the high 20s and ours still in single figures. I’m not sure a card had been shown at that point. Given their keeper can’t foul that put every other player on at least 2 fouls. Ridiculous.
John Collins ran down his contract at Celtic coz, Fergus tried to sell him to Derby.
Collins left Celtic and, played in the CLSF with Monaco….whilst Fergus was driving up n doon Monaco trying to wangle a fee.
Collins played Fergus at his own game and, won.
Fergus got rid of Wim & Murdo coz, they wanted to bring back, Collins and Pierre.
So, honest Fergus put himself before the team.
Aye…..
….sweet-dreams-zzzzz…….
Weeminger
Just before our first pen, CT spoke to Imrie and told him no more or he would get booked, a min or so later he gives away the pen, no booking, he didn’t get booked till late in the game for dissent I believe, as for the tackles on KT, what can be said, the boy could be in plaster walking on crutches for long enough,but nothing from the club.
It’s no wonder the players are disafected, they are playing to a different set of rules and the club say feck all.
The club should be highlighting this at every opportunity, win lose or draw.
HH
SOUKOUS .
Indeed ! .
Good chant during last night’s – Juve 2 -Inter 0 . ( Inter were poor ) .
Mancini – are you watching this shit or are you admiring yourself in a mirror
Looks like the midfield cull is beginning.
Forrest and Rogic refusing contract offers, which probably were offered with the expectation of being rejected.
Rogic is a talented player, like Stokes.
However, he, too, lacks basic pace and is injury prone…….as is James.
A place has to be found for Allan and Christie and the new 6’5″ boy Ajer.
The Exiled Tim
“Then we have the likes of Canman who is even thinking about the HS angle to stop it, it’s that bad, and some posters take the mick out of him for it, how fecking sad is that, they are quite happy to see our players getting crocked with impunity and think it’s a laugh.”
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Nobody I have seen is attempting to take the mick out of Canamalar ove this issue.
We are attempting to inject a bit of amusement and frivolity to what has been a depression blog since Friday night.
Anyway Canamalar can look after himself on the blog. Of that i’m sure.
However in this era of political correctness. I must state that the HSE do an excellent job in the main, and I wish absolutely no offence to any HSE advisors on the blog.
H H.
The H&S suggestion was aired on here during Tony Mowbray’s time.
Quite possibly after the tackle on Hinkel.
It’s not a new idea,and CANAMALAR has been on it for some time now.
He is correct,btw. Rules are in place to prevent injury. And they should be adhered to.
Keepers :
Roberts, Christie, Allan, Rogic, Armstrong, Henderson, Ajer, Brown, Bitton
Jeepers :
Boerrigter, McGregor, Stokes, Forrest, GMS
As for Commons, is there much left to give ??
Greenpinata
With respect, amusement and frivolity won’t help the players who are getting crocked.
It’s a very serious issue and the club are standing by doing nothing, their~our players are getting injured on a regular basis and they say nothing, fortunes are being spent on their treatment, they are offered no protection, whereas the teams we play against are offered protection.
HH
If Rogic doesn’t want to sign a contract extension then he should be sold in the summer. Has been decent this season when he’s played, but wouldn’t be a huge loss as we have numerous players to play in his position. Henderson is a better player than him, and more versatile.
Main point from the weekend is that we’re a game closer to winning the league. Dundee on Wednesday will be a tough game (and that’s before the negativity cascades from the stands at the first poor pass) where we will need players to stand up a win their battles first.
Then we have Morton! I hope we get through… at least I’ll be there to see it.
Celtic can’t say much about the different interpretations of the laws of the game publically doesn’t mean they’re not privately.
Notice now that I’ve to treat the truth as a joke…don’t think so!
just a wee thought re social media…would Jock Stein been in the job long enough to get nine in a row?
HH
How he wrote Jinky’s obituary
Solemnity was always handed its coat early in Jimmy Johnstone’s company and something as ordinary as death had no chance of altering that. What else but laughter could be the predominant sound when the wee man was buried in his native Lanarkshire on Friday? The shadow cast by the horrors of diminishment that punctuated his improbably long struggle against the implacable ravages of motor neurone disease, and by knowing he was only 61 when his resistance was finally exhausted, was a darkness bound to yield to a thousand memories of somebody driven — sometimes destructively, often hilariously — by an instinctive conviction that life was meant to be lively. His own recollections in latter years were shot through with much remorse for the suffering his alcoholic excesses had inflicted on his wife Agnes and their children, and with appreciation of the saintly tolerance he had been shown. But his family’s devotion to him never wavered, which was the strongest of all testaments to his essential lovability.
Jinky was a one-man archive of outrageous escapades and incredible-but-true anecdotes, most of them woven around the mixture of breathtakingly mischievous audacity and incorrigible naivete which, on his drinking expeditions, made trouble and himself mutually magnetic. The most celebrated tale records how he was set drifting alone in a rowing boat with oars but no rowlocks out towards the dawn horizon on the Firth of Clyde, while inebriated Scotland teammates on the Ayrshire shoreline belatedly ceased catcalling and began a panicky and nearly disastrous attempt at rescue as a blurred version of his tuneful singing voice seeped faintly across the water like that of a ghostly gondolier.
Other stories, however, accumulated in remarkable volume and variety. A favourite that surfaced last week deals with the time he turned up at a friend’s door close to midnight with three Harlem Globetrotters in tow (presumably if one of them had turned rowdy Jimmy could have butted him in the kneecap). And, of course, there was the running theme of a perennially fraught relationship with his incomparable Celtic manager, Jock Stein, which had all the volatility and theatrical intensity of the tempestuous love affair it undoubtedly was.
Stein’s innumerable abilities included an exceptional talent for frightening, cajoling or outsmarting difficult players into line. But Johnstone’s repertoire of waywardness was so outlandish and inexhaustible that Jock once assured me soberly that anybody assessing his achievements in football shouldn’t focus on the cabinet-load of trophies his management brought, though they included the European Cup captured in 1967 when Celtic defeated Internazionale of Milan in Lisbon to become Britain’s first continental champions and, miraculously, did so with an entire team of players born within a short drive of their stadium. No, Jock said, the outstanding feat of his career was keeping Jinky at the top of the game five years longer than might have been expected. It involved endless variations on the good-cop-bad-cop routine and, occasionally, a bit of both in the same ploy, as when an ostensibly innocent telephone call to a pub that was going like a fair would bring Johnstone cheerily to the receiver, only to find his ear being blasted by a rage with the explosive effect of an ejector seat.
All of which guarantees that Johnstone will not be remembered simply as a footballer of electrifying virtuosity, though he was certainly that, with a genius for surreally intricate dribbling so extraordinary it is impossible for me to believe any other player before or since quite matched his mastery of tormenting, hypnotic ball control at the closest of quarters.
As I have acknowledged in the past, other wingers might fairly be rated more reliably devastating (Garrincha, George Best, Tom Finney, Stanley Matthews are obvious candidates) but none of them besieged opponents with such a complex, concentrated swirl of deceptive manoeuvres or ever conveyed a more exhilarating sense of joy in working wonders with the ball.
That last characteristic gave an extra dimension to the impact of watching him play for Celtic and Scotland. It went beyond excitement or aesthetics or entertainment. When he was at his best, the performance was so extravagant and idiosyncratic, so full of wildly imaginative impertinences and a small (5ft 4in) man’s defiance of the odds that it touched us profoundly but lightly, as sport should. The natural reaction was not to gasp in awe, which would have been in order, but to smile or even to laugh out loud.
Since the majority of football followers are too young to have witnessed his prime, it must be regarded as a blessing that there exists enough video evidence to provide at least a powerful flavour of his spellbinding uniqueness. The screen can show sufficient examples of his capacity to mesmerise and ample proof of the productivity of a magic reinforced by fearlessness, spurting pace, athletic strength and acrobatic elasticity of movement, excellent striking of the ball and an alert eye for releasing a telling pass just when it appeared that the personal demoralisation of opponents was his sole concern.
To run the tapes is to ask sadly why his astonishing arsenal of gifts was so shamefully under-recognised at international level by the awarding of a mere 23 Scotland.
Hugh McIlvanney
SETTING FREE THE BEARS @ 12:44 AM
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First class post with many well made points, with which I readily agree.
When Ronny ‘breezed in’ he did so by telling us about his football philosophy- training and nutrition methodology- game strategy – his winning mentality – and of course the now (in)famous Ronny Roar.
I believed in him and thought his appointment to be brave an innovative – it still may be. However has he been cowed by all the negatives in the press?- has his confidence taken a battering due to dressing-room strife?
Whatever it is, he is a pale shadow, in public, of the ‘go ahead’ Klopp-like coach, that we thought we were getting.
He needs to sit down with a friendly journalist and give us his in -depth views on how he sees the future – he may well be waiting till the league is won to do this, I can undetstand that, however the support needs something to hold on to now.