I hear legendary Sevconian statement issuer, Jim “Rangers are dead” Traynor, is now firmly established in the Dave King camp. You may have found recent statements familiar, including last night’s, which focusses more on interrupting Celtic’s period of domination than building a well-run and sustainable football club.
Or it could be that Dave King is in Traynor’s camp, it’s hard to tell who is the monkey and who is the organ grinder when it comes to that lot and their long and dysfunctional relationships with PR masters.
My suspicions were raised when the Sunday Mail ran a complete non-story on their front page. Someone submitted a frivolous complaint to police – this is your news, Scotland. This was the kind of article which would be found in the same publication when Fergus McCann was in charge at Celtic; an unadulterated attack on the club. Now poor (not actually poor) Graham Wallace has to deal with them.
What price ‘loyalty’ after Traynor had his snout in the trough to a spectacular level too. We actually have a recipient of some of that enormous over-spend criticising the enormous over-spend. After his money was banked, of course. For the life of me I can never understand why the other lot put up with these types.
King’s eight point statement was an absolute hoot and completely inspired by Celtic’s position. There seems to be a pattern here: do wrong, then criticise others for doing as you did.
Point One:
King first addressed the liability for blame, and possible criminal investigations, which he believed should be heading towards the Rangers International board in the wake of comments made by chief executive, Graham Waddell, five months ago. He wrote:
….“It is beyond doubt that the CEO (and other board members) was aware last December that there was insufficient cash to last until the end of the season and the board failed to respond to my previous question in that regard. The CEO is now subject to a criminal complaint on this very issue but I believe that his comments were made with the full knowledge of the board. Certainly no one came out to contradict him. We should therefore expect any criminal investigation to extend to other board members.”
Dave King was a director of now-liquidated Rangers throughout the entire Craig Whyte era, when the club borrowed money from Ticketus to fund the payment of Lloyds debt, failed to pay social taxes and came crashing down. Whyte lied about the Ticketus deal but his non-execs kept their eyes, ears and mouths shut.
King was also a director of Rangers for over a decade, including the period of the David Murray-Campbell Ogilvie EBT shambles, which was proven to be illegal on five counts, the other counts are currently subject to an Upper Tier Tribunal.
Point 2:
“If cash was wasted as a result of mismanagement (presumably Charles Green etc.) then what steps are being taken to hold management accountable for this?”
As a non-executive director of failed Rangers FC PLC King was employed to ensure interests of stakeholders were being looked after. He failed singularly in this regard and has yet to be held to account.
Point Three:
“The board has conceded that it does not plan to effectively compete with Celtic in our first season back in the Premier League.”
This is sanity, not vanity. To suggest Newco throw so much money at the team that the instantly become competitive to Celtic is a sure-fire way of guaranteeing yet another insolvency event. These. People. Never. Learn.
Point Four:
“This is a great review for Celtic fans. It is stated that the board might only raise 20 million over the next 3 years. This paltry amount will guarantee that Celtic will be in a league of its own for the next few years- and possibly permanently thereafter. Celtic will continue to enjoy exclusive access to the Champions League windfalls and will go from financial strength to strength. The gap could become financially irreversible.”
Agree that Celtic will go from strength to strength and be remain a league of their own. Disagree that the review was great for Celtic fans. The review is little more than a laugh for Celtic fans, it changes nothing for us. I like the “permanently thereafter” line, though. It carries a bit more weight than “Generation of Domination”, which sounded ridiculous to some 9 years ago when it was first mooted but now sounds a tad understated.
Point Five:
“The board still does not have a clear plan for raising capital despite knowing for some months that a financial crisis was looming.”
Correct. On a related matter, Mr King has offered unspecified notions that he would encourage other people to buy tens of millions of pounds of shares, no clear plan has been identified, exactly what he accused Newco’s board of.
Point Six:
“It is interesting that the credit card companies agree with me that the season tickets should not be released to the club. However, it is genuinely shocking that this board has, for several months, withheld the knowledge that fans would not have access to credit card facilities when renewing season ticket purchases. The board preferred to blame “external parties” in an attempt to hide this serious non-disclosure. How can this board ask fans to ever trust them again?”
I think Mr King may have composed this comment ‘after a long lunch’. Credit card companies have not suggested season tickets should not be released to (sic.) the club, they simply don’t want anything to do with these transactions.
It is not shocking at all that the decision by credit card companies was not shared by fans for a number of months. Wallace would have spent much of this time looking for an alternative. It would have been inappropriate for a PLC to disclose sensitive financial negotiations to the general public months before that information becomes relevant.
Point Seven:
“The board continues the blame game and takes no responsibility for the current debacle. In truth, it is this board’s stubborn refusal to secure fresh equity that is the cause of the present fragile state of the club’s finances. The board clearly hoped to muddle along by using the season ticket advances from fans. This review should reinforce to fans that this board cannot serve as an appropriate custodian for their season ticket money.”
If fans want to know who to blame for the death of Rangers and the undignified mess Newco are in, they need look no further than the boards headed by Sir David Murray and Craig Whyte, both of which Dave King served on. Blaming Wallace instead is nonsense.
Point Eight:
“The board has admitted that Rangers is not presently a “going concern” and yet offers no plan on how this will be dealt with in the short term. Fans could once again lose their season ticket advances if given to the club at this time. It is unconscionable that this board has done nothing to bolster the finances since the last AGM.”
Fans of Oldco or Newco have never lost their season ticket advances. What is he thinking of? Does he know what club he’s talking about?
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Jungle Jim 22:14 on 29 April, 2014
Paul 67
I share Tom Molach`s view ( 22:08) that TD receives more insults than he gives out.
JJ
…………………
Jungle Jim, I disagree with your post above. I don’t think Mr Donnelly receives anywhere near the level of insults he hands out. He deserves far many more.
CELTICBHOY67 (@chrissy_cfc)
30/04/2014 00:19
I would like see sign like this in Scotland pic.twitter.com/kNH0JbiyXz
CELTICBHOY67 (@chrissy_cfc)
30/04/2014 00:19
I would like see sign like this in Scotland
pic.twitter.com/kNH0JbiyXz
P.S. JJ, I’ll bell you tomorrow re Saturday. My last visit to paradise as a dad and lad combo with young acgr before he flys the nest.
Lunch and beer are on him. Yipppeeeeeeeeee!!!!
My dear,dear,dear,friend… The Singing Detective
From.. Earlier…
Yes..You bet.
If Celtic lose young Denny.. then..
They hiv loast a Gem.
The Kid has it all.. Speed.. Skill… Trickery..n..is built like an old Fashioned Centre Forward..which is always a Plus, Plus.
n if Denny diz Leave…
well.. let me state right here.. that Ah am Oan HIZ side!
Denny, watched as Neil, gave .. his Partner.. Atajec.. a First team Shot..
Which.. Turned oot tate be .. a Successful wan.. fur the Kid . Scored a goal…
But.. well..
Atajec, didnae get any FOLLOW UP.. not even a Phone Call!
Atajec, ended up .. oan the Fast Track tae Celtic Oblivion…like a Loata Ithers
But..
Despite, Neil’s.. talk , tae the Contrary..
Ah Hereby..
Accuse Neil..of Talking oota BAITH sides of his Mouth.( When He claims that He wantsa Gie Yoof a Chance.)
Which..when ye come tae think aboot it.. must be ..fairly .. well.. a Tough Thing tae Dae!..
NOT… the “Gien Yoof A Chance”.. bit..
But..
Talking ootae BAITH SIDED OF HIS MOOTH… at the Same Time!
But, nevertheless Less Neil, manages tae dae it . very well..n.. the remarkable thing aboot whit Neil , diz..is that
NAEBUDDY Else….has ..well. NOTICED.. that he Diz.. except.. perhaps. Kojo n….??
How Miny games Left noo?
Three?
and still No sign of a DEDICATED ATTEMPT by Neil.. tae Gie Mair Kids.. a Shot at the Jackpot.
Neil, flatters tae Deceive…
He brings in a kid ..gets a Good Response fae the Kid..then..
Proceeds tae Furget all aboot Him.
Henderson, is getting the “Fisher” Treatment..
Henderson, is a Good Yin.. Fisher is a Good Yin.. But, by the end of the Season..
Those two kids will be furgoatten.
The Cannonball Kid, is anither..
Tony,hid wonderful Potential.. he showed great Promise.. n..
Well..
WHIT HAPPENED?
In Tony’s Case..
Ah wull tell ye Whit Happened..
n.. Naebuddy Tole Me..well whit Happened, tae Tony, oan His Way tae Celtic Fame n Fortune.
it wis
NEIL.. who Happened!
Yes, Ah lay the blame fur Tony’s eventual Recalcitrant Behavior .. at Neil’s… Foot Locker.
n.. Like Ah jist Told Ye..
Naebuddy, Told Me..
Na..
Ah saw that Tony’s Fall from Grace..
was.. INITIATED.. TRIGGERED…. ENCOURAGED..
Because.. Neil, Insisted in trying tae Accommodate.. Two of his Ither Regulars..by cementing thur Places in the team..
at the Expense of the Kid..
N ..he did THAT. by
PLAYING .. TONY.. oot of Position..
Way oot West ..oan the Left..or . Way oor East .. oan the Right.
When every Tom Cat ,in the Pack.. knew that Tony’s Place ,in the Team..
wiz..
Strictly..
Up Front n Center!
Naturally,as a Consequence of Neil’s .. Transgressions… in Making Sure that Sammi,,.. et All. still could keep a Place in the team..
The Kid felt that He hid bin .. Urinated ..Oan…… or… a word tae that effect!
Who could blame him, as tae How he reacted??
No Kojo. that’s fur Sure.
Ach…
Enuff…
Nice Chatting ,pal.. as Always..
Kojo
Still, Laughin’
james connolly last family visit recording
deserves a million more hits, and recognition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc6_QkkU3k
I like TDs posts.99% of the time I disagree but so what?.He is 100% tim.On this subject I have read a few posters on tonight saying they scroll by certain posters.I dont think thats how a forum is supposed to work,is it?.If we only read certain posters,only the ones we like,then thats a form of censorship,is it not.A couple of steps away from book burning.
I know some people dont like the political arguements.Thats different,but debating about Celtic SHOULD interest all of us.I read every post,much to my wifes great annoyance.
When you read the posts on Hun Media,good lord,TD is an alter boy in comparison.Dont think we should be so precious about certain things.Anyway,night all.
saint stivs
I think I’ll call it a night after that great post
Oiche mhaith a chara
Nora Connolly O’Brien Interview 1965
quite brilliant.
i am going to post this often till the blog chases me away.
connollys eldest daughter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkBnUQoFcpg
Celticrollercoaster luvs his luminious lime boots 00:12 on 30 April, 2014
ACGR
:-)
Where’s ma sample BTW and do I owe you any cash?
…………………….
It’s in my dram cabinet and naw, you don’t owe me any cash……………………yet.
Samples will be delivered 10th / 17th May, your choice.
HH
Turkeybhoy
One comment, no way insulting or controvential, response was totally abusive and insulting. I was off the blog for weeks trying to get my head round this guy. This will be the last time I respond to anything to do with, whoever he/she is. I have more telling things happening in our environment than bother with a nonentity. KTF
Weefra HH supporting and praying for Wee Oscar.
weet weet weet
To post a comment on Tony’s site, just select Anonymous in the profile choice drop down menu then you’ll get it ok.
My Dear Friend ,Kojo…
Wur Pinkety Oan The Cannonball Kid..
Lennon Is Strictly A ROOND-Heid…
He Disnae Indulge CAValiers
—–
Ah See Prez.ZERO Has Made Time To
Give Us Another Of His ‘Teachable Moments’..
Over The Alleged Comments Of The Basketball Club Owner..
All While He’s Doing Such A Splendid Job…
* Sorting Out The Middle East
* Sorting Out North Africa
* Sorting Out Central Africa
* Sorting Out North Korea
* Curbing Chinese Expansionism
* Facing Down Vladimir Over Ukraine
* Showing Cliven Bundy Who’s BOSS
* Delaying The Keystone Pipeline
* Keeping His Golf Handicap Below Three Figures
* Satisfying Moo-Chelles Carnal Desires
Who Does He Think He Is…????
SoapBox Dick Byrne….!!??
Still….Laughin’
Gotta Go…
I’m still catching up, I’m only on page 14.
A case could be made that Edward U
was/is one of the best posters to have graced this site.
Bright, self-depracating, insightful, knowledgeable,
funny, interesting and well worth the time.
T
Just watched my recording of the BM / RM game. What a mauling Real handed out tonight. Ronaldo and Bale playing together are a joy to watch. Almost as good as watching Larsson and Sutton:_)
tobagostreet
01:20 on
30 April, 2014
Yes.
And a marvellous opportunity to see the other point of view.
A Rangers supporter.Never a hun.
.
Nearly two Decades ago l was in Hamburg following Celtic in Europe..I was probably the Most disinterested supporter that was Following Celtic that Day..
l was Sitting outside a Bar being unusually Quiet (For Me)..Then a Group of School kids walked passed and Inside it Broke my Heart seeing the Wee Happy Kids..They were St Pauli school kids..Preppies or Grade 1..We all Cheered them and Chanted St Pauli..St Pauli..a couple shouted Celtic back..
At that time My own little Girl was in Australia and would herself be a Preppie the Next Year..and l was Struggling to Accept the Words of the Serenity prayer that was in My Wallet..
As l said i was Not really Interested in the Game itself but they Wee St Pauli kids cheered me Up..Albeit eventually..
The Celtic fan i was Next to had a Tiocfaidh ár lá badge on..I asked him if l could have it and he gave it to me and l pinned it to my Shirt..l decided there and then that No Matter what..No Matter what..‘Our Day Would Come’..
l have wore that Badge nearly every Single day Since then..I Thought l had Lost it about 3 Years ago..but found it Later pinned to the Inside of My Suit pocket..;-)
Today l am taking the Day off from My Youngest Daughter’s Primary School.. so l will probably Miss they Cheeky Wee Preppies and Grade Ones asking me for their Ball back or Chapping my Shed door and running away..
Today l am Taking My Oldest Daughter for Lunch and Shopping for her 21st..and her 20th..19th..18th..17th..16th..15th.. etc..
I don’t really know if Today..My Day has Actually came..but l know One thing..Never say Never..….
As a Few of You know CQN has helped get me through at times over the Last Decade..
Some things You just need to Share..
001Bhoy
Ps..I Had to Google what the Score that Day as l don’t remember..One thing Celtic related l was Praying for at around that Time was for the Bunnet to sign a Feckin Decent Goal Scoring Striker.. i left 22 Burgemester Knappertlann Rotterdam NL about 6 weeks later and Came to Australia..
Not sure if Auld Fergus answered my Prayers of late 1996..
Careful what You Pray for..
KTF
Kojo
The eternal dilemma.
Play the experienced player who is a known quantity or RISK a young unknown?
The manager can’t win.
Neil sees everyone in training and is the best judge of which players are best capable of achieving a particular objective.
As Celtic fans we love to see one of our own academy products make the grade, but if a young player is in the side when we get a bad result the lad’s confidence can receive a jolt.
And confidence is a key factor for any athlete.
I think we are victims of the success of our academy system and of the quality of the coaching at the U17 and U20 levels. The game last night was a prime example of coaching to a consistent style throughout the club. We were playing a possession game while the undead were only able to employ the long ball.
Right, just in from the byre. One ewe still to lamb, the bugger is having us on. I swear she will burst if she does not lamb in the next 24 hrs. After last night, I’m totally shattered. Thank feck I’m retired or I widnae have time for this. Errrrrr…. :-)))
Weefra HH supporting and praying for Wee Oscar.
Cot time, byeeeeeeeeeeee.
Weefra HH supporting and praying for Wee Oscar.
Summa of Sammi….
01:38 on
30 April, 2014
Great story,pal.
I can identify.
Wee Eddie has a 21st next month.
http://www.dontshrink.com – Tony
22.15
Welcome to the blog. Hope we can enjoy some late night weekend US Sports chats in the months to come. Our football season here is coming to a close soon.
I’m sure others, especially Margaret McGill will join in. From memory, she was a huge fan of them all.
Summa, great wee ramble there, I enjoyed that.
Can I ask you a question? Tell me to fcuk off if you like.
You had a bit of a spat earlier with awe naw and he mentioned you running away. You responded that he was making a personal insult about your circumstances with the running away comment. Can I ask what you meant? As I say, feel freeto tell me to get tae. I just wondered what you meant.
HH bruv
WeefratheTim – That last wee baby lamb shall step out into the world whenever it decides to,hopefully soon so ye can get a wee break.
Nature is a wonderful thing,and a lucky man you are indeed.
Sleep well brave Celt.
HH.
The penny d-d-d-d-d-dropping.
By d-d-d-d-d-drip feed.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/ally-mccoist-accountability-gap-at-rangers-1-3392216
eddieinkirkmichael
23.30
Well said, sir. It would be a huge relief to read another post from him soon.
I pray the poster remembers he is well thought and respected on this blog and that the relationship with his son demonstrated by his stories here indicate to us the victories he has forged over those early years.
Sleep in peace tonight and every night TB.
.
Ceiler..
Re; ‘Run Away’..Haven’t the Foggiest but take it He asked me a Question after l probably went to Bed..??
l struggle to Stand Up for long so it was Merely ‘Me Run’..Aye very Funny..
Hardly a Spat..
Awe Naw did say Summa RIP so I’m Off to Run in Peace..;-)
Summa
macjay1
Based on McCoist’s inability to see any trouble or problems at last night’s game, I have to assume that he was wearing his Stevie Wonder style glasses. The same ones he wears when he is signing players and checking their wages.
No sign of him asking “Who are these people?”
I guess his ears are OK as he probably heard the chants of “Wee arra peepul” coming from the same area.
From Celtic Twitter
@celticfc: Watch what happens when @VirgilvDijk, @Adam2Matthews and @charlie_mulgrew take over Celtic TV? http://t.co/lZ0rqt1FCo (NM)
HH
Macjay, the author of that piece in the Scotsman will rue the day he wrote this part:
“[It is] terrible, absolutely terrible. If people at our football club lose their jobs because of that ridiculous sum of money that’s gone, then the people should be held accountable,” he said, with a moral certainty reminiscent to his reprehensible “who are these people” utterances about the SFA judicial panel two years ago”.
He’s probably been moved to a safe house already and had craniofacial surgery to disguise himself from the tsunami of hate heading in his direction from the zombie horde.
It’s a shame that more jouro’s don’t grow some stones and present the facts as they are. If they had maybe things would be different and the resentment from our side of the lies and subsequent cover up would never have been necessary. If the smsm had presented the facts that the huns died and came back as a new club, their support would have had no reason to maintain the propaganda position that they are the same club.
The chance to change Scottish football has come and gone, the press in this country should be ashamed of themselves for the hate storm that is coming based on their inability to accurately represent events as they occurred. Last night was an insight into what the hun intend for Scottish football if their new team ever reach the top flight. The media lies and failure have stoked this up in order to sell more print. It’s backfired spectacularly and I’d like to see them all on the dole.
There is no “old firm” it died when HMRC rejected the hun CVA. The sooner the SMSM print this the sooner the hoard will accept it. I for one hope the new club wither and die just to put the cherry on top of the icing on the cake.
summa, thanks for clearing that up. I’m relieved, I thought you’d maybe been crippled in a freak surfing / shark attack / barbecue accident. Ya wee drama queen.
Bed time for this bhoy.
Goodnight Celtic men and wummin.
67Heaven –
Pre liquidation, there was for many years a gentlemen’s agreement between Celtic and Rangers that they would not bill each other for damaged seats following Old Firm games as it was always a 2-way street.
Somehow I cannot see such an agreement being in place today.
ACGF –
Your last comment reminded me of Edmund Blackadder’s put-down to Captain Darling.
“Thank you Darling . . . and I hope your mother dies in a freak yachting accident!”
GG, huns all have ears like bats. Don’t forget the bold 300. The 300 who officially complained that Neil Francis Lennon racially abuse el haj duff.
Liars and scum is what they are, lairs and scum and the shameful fat turd “it wisnae me, honest” is at their helm.
G’nite
Turkeybhoy –
I don’t think people scrolling past comments from some posters is the same as only reading certain posters.
I instinctively scroll past a couple of posters but I’d say I read over 90% of comments when I am logged in.
I also sometimes scroll past specific subjects, rather than posters, where I have no interest in the subject matter.
It has nothing to do with censorship. It’s like reading a newspaper. I will scan over articles and reports that are of no interest to me. That doesn’t mean I am censoring the content.
`GG and ACGR
Sorry,lads.On the run.
Basically I go along with all the “Sally must stay” posters.
If only we could all enjoy these unprecedented days without all the fussing and fighting.
Jimmy Cliff
Wonderful World ,beautiful Tims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJYl9Irayk
I stopped funding Celtic directly in 2009 except for showing up at the odd game whenever I was back in Scotland. I had 2 reasons for this. 1. The bored showed no long term vision. Still dont. 2. I was then convinced the bored were old firm believers. They still are.
Some Celtic supporters need to make the distinction between Celtic football club and the custodians of Celtic football club.
I have since found other ways to fund Celtic. Money that doesn’t find it’s way to the donut squad.