Campbell Ogilvie’s appointment as president of the SFA was always controversial. As general secretary and director of Rangers, Ogilvie was the club’s chief administrator during the final 11-year period they refused to employ Catholic footballers. In many other walks of life, this background would make him an embarrassing relic of a former era, but in Scottish football it was enough to see him promoted to the ultimate honour position.
He remained in position at Rangers long after the new regime of Sir David Murray arrived and set aside the decades-old sectarian employment policy but left the club in 2005, joining Hearts as operations director two months later. All of this puts the SFA president in central position regarding the on-going tax tribunal, which is charged with deciding if Rangers illegally evaded tax from a period starting in 2000 and going on well beyond Ogilvie’s departure.
If the First Tier Tribunal finds against Rangers the SFA must ask for Ogilvie’s immediate resignation. The association cannot have a president embroiled in a tax evasion scam which, even before a verdict has been decided, has already caused untold harm to his former club and the reputation Scottish football. The scale of the damage to public finances has yet to be definitively established but it will not make good reading.
The SFA has just embarked on its first proper investigation into whether directors of a football club, in this instance Rangers, are fit and proper persons to hold such a position. Office holders at the association cannot exercise power over the game if they are not subject to the same standards they demand from clubs. Pending this investigation, and the outcome of the tax tribunal, Ogilvie should temporarily step aside. Scotland is not yet a banana republic, public bodies must have robust ethics and must not allow the shadow of contagion to be cast over the body charged with ensuring legal and moral standards are adhered to.
The SFA has some enormously important months ahead. Its president is currently in a position to influence which course it takes and, if the tribunal verdict falls against Rangers, could be implicated in the scandal which precipitated the crisis. While I am sure Campbell Ogilvie will be shown to have acted with impeccable ethical standards, the SFA must quickly establish a structure clear of contagion.
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Working for an employer, when that employer is not obliged to give you the same terms and conditions as your fellow worker, all the while knowing that you are depriving your fellow worker of more hours/better wages under their own contract of employment, all in order that you don’t lose out on JSA of £56 a week?
Have a word with yourself if you think that wouldn’t affect somebody’s sense of self worth.
Incidentally, many people claiming JSA do have pyschiatric problems.
I’d much rather target our defence budget, stop maruading around the middle east chest puffed out to the tune of xbillions per annum than punish the unemployed to no discernible benefit to the economy, the deficit or the unemployment figures.
The policy is an unnecessary, cruel and typically Tory piece of claptrap.
philvisreturns says:
Got to admit you’re game if ill-informed.
The DWP/Tesco race to the bottom is a critical feature of unregulated capitalism.
The conventional wisdom here is that the poor must pay for the excesses of the rich. Meanwhile the same iron law states that the rich, the bankers, say, must be rewarded for greed.
And where does this get us? Well, the median UK income has, in real terms, hardly increased from 1979. I suppose there’s always aspiration – pull yourself up by your own bootstraps and all that. That’s a nice idea but you’d need to be an Olympic class bootstrap puller in the UK to get anywhere fast. Don’t tell anyone but it’s got the lowest rate of social mobility of any developed country.
Germany, on the other hand, with its worker directors and advanced system of social welfare – even under the CDU – enjoys very high mobility.
Are Sale Sharks the Newco?
Is this how Rangers gain entry to the EPL?
Rugby Premiership.
martinlubo says:
21 February, 2012 at 14:06
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=211521
So depressing, liquidation can’t come soon enough.
Agreed, just read the comments on that site, total joke.
philvisreturns says:
21 February, 2012 at 14:03:
One of the worst, most appalling posts I’ve ever read on this site. Seriously. Disgusting.
Philvisreturns : get your facts straight,fascist scum;the pertinent word in this ‘programme’ is MANDATORY. You really are a dimwit.
Piss off back to Ibrox,where you clearly belong..and no doubt come from.
Your beliefs are entirely in keeping with the worst of Rankers ‘supporters’.
Looks like Duff + Duffer are holding off on any redundancies within the Tax Dodgers squad until after the mini Huns game in early March
Keep the positive stories coming until they can get another sell out crowd from the gullible hordes
Kevtic at 13:39 & Awe_Naw at 13:04
“Rangers midfielder Matt McKay is set to seal a permanent transfer out of Rangers to North Korean side Busan I’Park … ”
&
“… it’s not every day one of your star players moves to North Korea. How good must you be to get a move there?”
I couldn’t believe it, either.
Until I saw that Busan I’Park were runners up in the Rush & Cash Cup.
Maybe he’s been sent on a mission … ?
FF
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
21 February, 2012 at 13:59
I’ve noticed that story doing the rounds lately. It’s dated Jan 30th 2005.
I suspect it was originally run as part of a Tory anti-Europe, scaremongering campaign. Not sure why it has re-emerged lately.
gerryguk7 – all in order that you don’t lose out on JSA of £56 a week?
And housing benefit potentially worth tens of thousands a year, and free Council Tax, free healthcare, etc. etc.
The policy is an unnecessary, cruel and typically Tory piece of claptrap.
Sounds like you think working is an infringement of “human rights”
When did the Labour movement get so lazy? (thumbsup)
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fritzsong – Got to admit you’re game if ill-informed.
The DWP/Tesco race to the bottom is a critical feature of unregulated capitalism.
The conventional wisdom here is that the poor must pay for the excesses of the rich. Meanwhile the same iron law states that the rich, the bankers, say, must be rewarded for greed.
So far, so ideological boilerplate…
And where does this get us? Well, the median UK income has, in real terms, hardly increased from 1979
Nope. I call shenanigans on this false factoid. Actually median UK income is, in real terms, considerably higher than it was in 1979.
For you see, we not only earn more on average than we did in 1979, but in real terms we can buy more things more cheaply with our money than in 1979.
You can’t even get the basic facts right, ergo I’m going to have to give you a D- grade for this effort.
D- Must Try Harder (thumbsup)
philvisreturns says:
21 February, 2012 at 13:52
‘So the obvious solution would be to restrict immigration and abolish the minimum wage. Also make labour less expensive to hire through other policies.’
Firstly, we don’t allow immigration from the third world.
Secondly, how does restricting immigration fit in with a free market?
Thirdly, if British capital wants cheap labour it outsources manufacturing or servicing (call centres, back office functions etc) to the third world (and that is what I was referring to), or just relocates to the third world. That’s largely what’s happened in the last 25 years
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‘If anything, it’s a subsidy that goes the other way’
Yes, the companies involved are being entirely altruistic.
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‘Probably something to do with the fact that we’re broke and having a large, growing, underclass of permanently unemployed people is expensive’
Who, specifically, is broke?
There are ways of getting rid of a large, growing, underclass. One is to physically cull them. War is the traditional means, though ironically technology has more or less excluded that as a possibility. I suppose enforced sterilisation is another answer, though probably a bit too Dawkinest for your tastes. Maybe an expanding economy might work, though I can’t see that happening, certainly not if left to the market, whose sole goal is profit, not employment. What doesn’t make sense is to try to squeeze them all into a labour market that can’t contain them and harassing and punishing those that don’t make it. It’s not logical and it’s not rational.
Spot on Paul.
Surely the SFA wont have the brass to have Ogilvie on this enquiry? Is Peter Lawwell there? If he is not Celtic should let them know that there is a conflict of interest here and they are watchin the developments.
Ogilvie will probably just pop in and out of the room with tea & coffee and check the heating anyway. Watch your back Peter.
philvisreturns:
“For you see, we not only earn more on average than we did in 1979, but in real terms we can buy more things more cheaply with our money than in 1979.”
And that is the point where I realise you are either as nutty as a fruitcake, an ill-informed halfwit or someone who is seriously at the wind-up.
Transparantly bollocks, and demonstrates clearly the intellect at work behind the words; i.e. not much.
Truly admirable headline article P67.
If I haven’t already done so, then let me thank you again for your role as the dynamo that makes this blog not only exist, but keep on running with ever increasing momentum and strength.
Not for the first time, your article shows true “bottle” as well as conviction.
You give the rest of us a great platform upon which we can commune, correspond, opine, broadcast, bicker, rant, or indulge in whatever form of giving forth that takes us at the the time.
You in the meantime, have to be measured and even restrained at times in what you say at the top of the page & I’m sure most of has learned to read & then re-read when it comes to such delicate subjects as those currently in vogue.
Thank you for courageously throwing the spotlight onto one whose influence has been at the centre of much that has been malignant in the Scottish game for far too long, and without even a hint of question or scrutiny.
I am seriously angry about Philvisreturns words.
One of my best friends is dying from terminal cancer right now and you woukd not believe the hell this working class woman is going through right now. In 34 yrs. of working,she has a total of 4 days off sick. Now she is dying,horribly,and the DWP is doing everything in its power to thwart her receiving ANYTHING, even though she’s paid into the system all these years. That’s what NATIONAL INSURANCE is for!
Maybe she should have just taken a leaf out of CW’s book and ripped EVERYBODY off.
Survival of the fittest? Sounds like you are a Social Darwinist,philvisreturns,i.e. a eugenecist,a Nazi. Do you have the intellect to understand ANY of this?
I doubt it.
When are we going to hear “We WERE ra peepil”?
oglach says:
21 February, 2012 at 14:07
voguepunter says:
21 February, 2012 at 13:52
mearns 2 milton says:
21 February, 2012 at 13:42
Clutching @ straws time over Rangers media way :
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=211762
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Isn’t anyone on here a Timfiltrator if so please go on and try to add a little financial education to their sad lives? . List of companies that have legally changed names without owing tens of millions in Tax. To name but a few
Cosmair to L’Oréal, Brad’s Drink to Pepsi Cola, AuctionWeb to EBay, Bridge Gate Computers to Compaq, Tokyo Telecom Engr Corp
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Not to mention the bloody obvious fact that by simply renaming your company, you still retain the assets (like Celtic did) and also the debts (like they will). On the other, if you become a new company altogether, you retain neither.
Idiots.
Miki
You’ve crossed the line there friend. Shame.
Get real.
miki67
Has your friend contacted the Mc Millan Nurses? They can do wonders for people with cancer.
BANNANA REPUBLIC THATS DEROGATORY TO BANNANAS !
James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream – One of the worst, most appalling posts I’ve ever read on this site. Seriously. Disgusting.
James, you know I like you but you have a tendency to get all confused and outraged when confronted with facts or arguments you don’t like, which in turn brings out your judgemental and self-righteous side. It’s charmingly reminiscent of being back in the student union, but also annoyingly reminiscent of being back in the student union.
You probably haven’t noticed this because lefties generally lack self-awareness, but I’ve never claimed to be “appalled” or “disgusted” with even your most ill-informed, wrong-headed, socialist diatribes.
Even when you were on here gushing over Peter Mandelson.
So maybe if you’re “appalled” and “disgusted” because somebody expressed an opinion you don’t agree with, you should consider the possibility that your emotional responses say more about you than they do the other guy.
Disgustedly yours,
Philvis
xx
(thumbsup)
And Philvis, having set the hook, smiles. He enjoys fishing. Or is just the fish?
U
Well, their peers working in zero hour minimum wage jobs will also likely receive some form of assistance in the form of HB/CTB. Self employed persons are also regularly recipients of HB/CTB. We are all covered by the NHS, and long may that continue. Ergo, forcing them to work for £56 per week is a subsidy to the busineesses explotiong their vulnerability and a form of co-erced labour.
I fail to see how you justify a policy that amounts to punishing the long term unemployed for the crime of being unemployed. As I said, this labour will not contribute meaningfully to GDP; it will not shrink the deficit; it will not result in any contribution to the exchequer. More to the point, I do not see any way it will result in a fall in umployment.
Perhaps you justify it by reference to your own disgust at the workless. The policy will certainly massage the ego of pompous self righteous individuals who are fortunate to be in work, and who think anyone who isn’t is a malingerer or a paracite. Not worth it. Unnecessary, cruel, typically Tory claptrap. Can’t find a better way of decsribing the policy.
On the subject of malingerers and paracites, what do you think of the man who funded the Tories last election campaign (thumbsup).
Oooft a few playing the man instead of the post. Rein it in chaps…..he is as entitled to his opinion as anyone else. Certainly doesn’t make him any less of a Celtic fan. Disagree with his words but no need for the pejoratives at all
Is there a time limit to the SFA enquiry and what exactly are they investigating?
Philvisreturns has crossed the line: I hope he has body armour if he wants to keep slagging the most disadvantaged in society.
CFC was founded to support the disadvantaged in Glasgow’s East End; not to espouse the right wing drivel of philvisreturns.
Nana na nana na hey Jude. Wee change fae I C & J??
James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream – And that is the point where I realise you are either as nutty as a fruitcake, an ill-informed halfwit or someone who is seriously at the wind-up.
James, I’m struggling to understand how you – who are not, as far as I can tell, an idiot – could seriously convince yourself that we’re no richer on average now than we were in 1979.
Really struggling here buddy.
Do you have any facts to back up this bizarre claim? Or will you pout some more, toss your hair, and throw more insults my way? (thumbsup)
ulysses mcghee says:
21 February, 2012 at 14:31
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Or perhaps it’s all “single fish”?
/unlurk
I don’t normally do these sort of things, but this was pretty fun. Such gibberish.
TYPE YOUR NAME: Danny
TYPE YOUR NAME WITH YOUR ELBOW: aaazrooln
TYPE YOUR NAME WITH YOUR CHIN: aassssforgnh
SLAM YOUR FACE ON THE KEYBOARD: You know, just in case anyone brings up the White and Kelly days when Parkhead woul be absolutely crammed. Yet the next day the papers would give the crowd as 22,000. Makes you wonder how much was diverted from the tax man back then? How much it contributed to Celtics success in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. And how THEY somehow ended up minutes from the gates being padlocked?
/relurk
The Mandatory Work Activity Scheme, an employer’s perspective
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k7wlSHXdv8
a nice little refresher course , in simple language about player registrations and loans from the FIFA body itself.
might help some of the journos lurking.
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf
philvisreturns:
This has nothing to do with my political views. Even some of the people on this site who are from the right of the spectrum will balk at a post where someone actually shows the appalling lack of concern for a fellow human being as you demonstrated in that disgraceful post.
It’s indefensible. It’s inhuman and shameful. Don’t even attempt to turn this around on me.
You talk about lefties lacking self awareness – a point about as stupid as any I’ve read from you, and that is really saying something. You clearly have none yourself, as you have spectacularly laid bare views which belong on the numerous hun websites where dehumanising other people is par for the course.
The views you have espoused are abhorrent. And yes, that’s my personal opinion and I don’t care particularly whether others share it. Your comments are shocking, your politics not of the right if you really believe that but from the far, far right and as I no longer pay attention to the posts of our other resident facist and bigot I am strongly tempted to ignore yours from now on.
Those remarks are offensive to me on every level. Believe me, there is no confusion here, only outrage at the callousness and disregard for decency which was contained in the words you wrote.
I repeat, views like that belong on Follow Follow. That’s how bad they are.
miki67 – some sinister undertones to your post @ 14.33. You have no right to say who does or who does not have the right to be a Celtic fan. The body armour stuff is not on. Argue with his points instead of firing insults mate. Reel it in you are doing yourself, and your own politics, no credit.
jude 2005 ,thanks. MacMillan nurse charity involved with my friend. Good people. What she’s going through is enough to make you weep. And it has,believe me.
I cannot believe the tripe from philvisreturns. One cruel,heartless s.o.b.
Curly: name for Ibrox
The Skid Bowl
The Dodge Dome- maybe Ibrox will be the new Ebbets Field like the original “Dodgers”?
Edminston Drive Municipal Car Park
The Beggardrome
Stadio Delle Skinto
The Rangers Memorial Shrine
South Govan Crematorium
The Bigot Complex
Paupers Parade
Tesco Superstore
still think Inland Revenue Arena (IRA) is the best
Sir Paul
collie, done tole me .. that..
Alyss Le Fey, Says:
“My Leaves o’ Tea, depict a Tale so Sombre,
that, I hesitate to Tell,
But, Truth will Out, as the Savants Say,
That ,those who Cheat, a Debt Must Pay.
And so to Whyte ,a Demand is Made,
By the Relentless , Mr. Piper,
And Stripped He’ll be…. of the Reins of Charge,
and his
ComeUppance, won’t be Small..
But, Large!!”
And ye know sumptin’, Kiddo?
Ah widnae Be,at awe, Surprised!
Kojo
who’s
Still..
Laughin’!