So where did it all go wrong for Ronny Delia? First of all, it didn’t all go wrong. He won two leagues, and if you think it was impossible to lose those, just think back to a team in last season’s Championship, who enjoyed an equally superior income over their competitors, but lost the league to Hearts by the length of the M8.
It was just as possible for Aberdeen to win the league this season or last, as it was Hearts (reeling only months after going into administration) to win the Championship last season. Ronny delivered the primary requirement each season – the league title, but he failed on the second tier requirement – qualify for the Champions League.
Soon after the Legia Warsaw debacles Ronny reflected on the question about whether it was right to ask his new team to adopt his tactics, instead of waiting until he’d recruited players to fit his system.
Two years on we are still remarkably short of players to play his system. Innumerable wide midfield players have come and gone, with many still lingering in the stands. We have an enviable list of creative mids in the squad, yet none have been able to dislodge Stefan Johansen, who by his own admission is having a disappointing season.
Then there’s the striker roles. Leigh Griffiths has been a significant reason why we’ll be crowned champions again over the next few weeks, but he’s pretty much on his own. No one has been able to put pressure on him. For a while Leigh had to wait until John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic dropped out of the picture, but you’ll struggle to recall this season’s striker arrivals, Carlton Cole and Colin Kazim-Richards, three years from now.
For these reasons, we can say recruitment is where it all went wrong for Ronny. It’s not about 4-2-3-1, half the top teams in Europe play with that formation, nor is it (the now abandoned) zonal marking system, also the dominant top-level defensive system.
We’ve simply recruited the wrong players for creative midfield and striker positions. It’s also subtler than to just say we’ve not recruited good enough players. Some who have escaped Celtic Park after arriving in the last 22 months have done pretty well elsewhere. Guidetti and Scepovic are La Liga strikers, while Jo Inge Berget also made it to the Bernabeu this season.
None of them are great, but I suspect we made them look poorer than they are. Kazim-Richards is unlikely to trouble Sergio Ramos next season, but there’s more to him that what we’ve seen, or will see. We’ve been a place careers diminish disproportionately.
On the positive side, Ronny brought the best out of Leigh Griffiths. He moved the disintegrating Emilio Izaguirre aside for 18-year-old sensation, Kieran Tierney, (the biggest winner on Sunday). And he finally resolved some of the least-organised set-piece defending known to man with the recruitment of Erik Sviatchenko (on this point, you cannot over-estimate the value of adding one good player to a team).
One thought crossed my mind several times this season: If he hadn’t spent so much money fruitlessly trying to make one system work, would he have acknowledge he was on the wrong road and changed tactics?
He backed himself into a corner so stuck with the same faltering policy at Celtic, but surely, surely, if he walks into another job soon, unhindered by that wasteful use of budget, he’d not follow the same tactical strategy which failed him?
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CELTIC1MEMBER1VOTE on 21ST APRIL 2016 10:40 PM
Nice to meet you tonight and apologies for having to hurry off.
Weve just came through the most horrific and unprecedented sustained period of unjustified written and broadcast media lies and anti Celtic rhetoric that could only be possible in the only single state uni religion regime in the Western world, that is Scotland.. And we have managed it and came through it with dignity and some moral fibre.. and yet the shite that infests this site is allowed to continue to besmirch our name and do the work of the filthy masonic gutter rags, and we do nothing to stop it.
Shame on us.. Shame on you P67 for allowing it.
The devil has risen, and the scum on here assist him by supporting his lies.
You do NOTHING to stop it.
We will never match their venom or will to survive.. we are happy to turn on each other.
We had our chance.. we let them win.
Shame on us.
http://m.heraldscotland.com/sport/14444613.Ronny_Deila_on_leaving_Celtic__player_fitness__the_Champions_League__dressing_room_unrest_and_what_the_future_holds/
Did you actually sign the players? You hear a lot of stories about how the manager doesn’t sign the players at Celtic.
“That’s not true. I sign the players. I have the final decision. It has been like that all the time.
The usual drama queens (ones in Cults etc) should maybe apologise to our host.
OLDTIM67 on 21ST APRIL 2016 7:15 PM
A CEILER GONOF RUST..
Booked into the Millenium for the 7th May, where are you holding the Party celebrations ,BT said he’d come.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ACEILERGONOFRUST is picking up 16 ROADS from the airport and heading for THE BLANE VALLEY. Let the party commence,all welcome!
Hope you all have a grand old night,then a great day to follow.
SFTB
I have one query for all of those who are decrying Paul 67 for considering the 2nd RD title to be already won, can I ask
a) Did you sing along with “Here we go- 10 in a row”?
b) Back Aberdeen at their current odds of 33/1 (we are 100 to 1 on)?
Did you honestly just ask that stupid question?
I always took you for a very intelligent guy but…
The Celtic support as you very well know have been singing that from 1;2;3;4 in a row. It is a song. Not a statement of fact.
As for bookie odds. Your intelligence was regained. But I remember not long ago in the far to distant past we were odds on to win it and BLUE it. I’m sure you remember?
MWD
HT
Would Paul 67’s statement be ok if he put in a smiley?
There’s no real distinction here. Most of us believe that the league is damn near won.
Most of us know that there is a possibility it could be blown.
Most of us do not believe that it will be.
The culprit for the shambles Lawwell is safely tucked up in bed. He has just switched off the heating on the driveway. Instead of counting sheep or dud strikers he is wrestling with the short list for the Celtic job. As a reminder of what happened last time round.
Moyes. Shit he will want more than me and probably want to sign his own players.could become too powerful with success….one to be avoided as it puts myself at risk.
Keane. Bloody Irish. Born same city as Dermot. Shit and more shit. Keane will miss me out. Not over my dead body.
Ronny whatshisname….yeh Ronny Daly. Cheap. Talks a good game. Won’t rock the boat. Plays youth. I can even pick his assistants….haha that will be brilliant. Defo way to go. Just need to convince Dermot…no problem.
Great I can sleep now ….puppet sorted. He might only last a couple of years ….then I can dig up another one. How easy is that….brill
I am hoping tomorrow Paul67 provides as he promised earlier in the week a proper analysis of were we are.
If that was it today then sadly Celtics version of Level5 is in production and the tag line with regards Lazy Journalism should be cast to the ghosts of a far flung day.
Sadly!
MWD
SFTB
The league IS damn near won but it ISN’T definitely won, that’s why I said it’s presumptuous.
MWD
“The Celtic support as you very well know have been singing that from 1;2;3;4 in a row. It is a song. Not a statement of fact. ”
In the stylee of “Did you just call my pint a poof?” – Did you just call my question stupid?
Firstly, how could a prediction (“Here we go” not “Here we are”) ever be a statement of fact?
Are all our songs fictional?
Are there no fields in Athenry? Do they not lie low?
Will I sometime walk alone?
Is there a narrow white bowler hat hanging in father’s room?
Are the IRA going to enslave us?
Will Rockall fall?
SFTB
Are Friends electric?
Gary Numan:)
HH
HT
“that’s why I said it’s presumptuous.”
You actually said “extremely presumptious”
My point is that there is little between the positions. S**t can happen that is unlikely- it happened just last weekend- but it still remains unlikely.
TGM
You are quoting Tories now :-)
SFTB
Thought you were going off the deep end with that speech?
It was like Teddy Roosevelt:)
HH
SFTB
Like you I was at first home game of the season.
Here we go 10 in a row was sung.no it it is not a factual song.
It is a song in support of the team with a dog at all other teams. An in your face song.
Please stop trying to be stupid when we know you are far from that!
Thanks.
MWD
SFTB
Ok I think it’s extremely presumptuous to say we’ve won the league when we haven’t. That, in spite of the fact, that it’s damn near close.
SFTB
Gettysburg address:)
HH
Prince – is it just me, or is this OTT in the extreme?
Sorry of course for anyone who passes on – sympathy for the family – but all this “The World is in mourning for the unique collossus that is Prince…”…bollocks.
Jeezo.
(Sorry for the non-Hoops post, but stumbled across Sky news-unbelievable crap)
Anyway – for one of the last times….
OHHH – RONNY, RONNY……RONNY, RONNNY, RONNNY, ROOOONNNNYYY, DEILLLAAA
Sad to see him go, but had lost the team, so innevitable.
The team’s utterly shameful ‘Performance’ vs Dundee was the final confirmation of his fate.
It should also seal the fate of the players who disgraced the Celtic jersey that day – never saw such a disgraceful, deliberately and wantonly poor performance in all my life – a black day in our playing history. A poor result is one thing, bur deliberate non-trying is something I didn’t think I would ever see in a Celtic team – I have seen it now, and was disgusted.
Anyway – good luck to the man in future, and I hope a number of cards have been marked within the playing pool.
Ronnie tried his hardest for Celtic – I don’t believe everyone else involved could say the same. If they had, we would not have reached the position we are in now.
Hail, Hail
BGFC
Ronny is sticking to agreed line ‘I bought all the players’
….because that’s what it says on the deal in the big envelope!
It’s part of the standard process.
Not having that cr@p
MWD
Amongst the facetiousness about this minor minor point, there is a genuine truth.
Some of our fans found the 10iar chant distasteful. Some even called it hunnish. Even if it is banter, it can still be wrong. Banter wouldn’t be much of a defence to singing the wrong lyrics to Roaming in the Gloaming, would it?
I tried to treat your point lighheartedly because I think people are being a bit po-faced about the inaccuracy or presumption of claiming 2 titles won.
As you know, I was saying the same thing about the league title for the past two years when people were predicting league failure in the August to December period of both of RD’s title campaigns.
This dispute will very shortly be moot. I am predicting a win for us against Ross County. Hope that’s not too presumptious.Ross County are rated at 25/2 for those that fancy a long odds punt. I won’t be bothering.
Saltires,
I think the truth is somewhere away from both ends.
Yeah he probably did sign them but it will have been from a list he was given, not from a list he gave.
HH
Adios.
SFTB
That is correct. But your earlier point was stupid! Below your usual level of analysis. An analysis which I rarely find difficult to question even though at times I disagree with.
MWD
TGM
The Gettysburg Address is a cracking piece of writing.
Not sure Teddy Roosevelt ever had the oratory gift- “Speak softly and carry a big stick” was probably his best line. A remarkable wee macho man though, genuinely brave and possibly psycopathic. Though a natural member of the elite in the USA, he was still sickened by the excesses and hypocrisy of Big Business and monopolies.
SALTIRESENSEVILLA
Is the confidentiality clause included in the first deal in the big envelope-signed on the way in,or in the second one-signed on the way out?
Either way,expect little criticism from a former Celtic employee. As usual.
Unfortunately MWD
Quality control here is so bad that I cannot prevent many stupid points from appearing amongst my few sensible ones.
That’s why I feel at home here.
Geordie
Yes agreed
Don’t get me wrong
It’s a rock and a hard place for Ronny, and I’m not blaming him for agreeing to take the bigger envelope.
As you say, his choices were extremely limited, based on evidence of playing ability of the players he gave his “aye, aye captain”
HT,
Glad to see you picked up the lingo on your pilgrimage ;)
HH
TGM
San Juan Hill….nobody told that story better than Teddy Roosevelt.
Webster Tarpley has some interesting views on the whole scenario.
Manufactured for effect….a bit like the reichstag fire, but thats another story.
I believe the modern term is ‘False Flag’:)
HH
Sorry that was for SFTB
SFTB
I expect stupidity from others and me. But you, in an attempt to backup something that still is possible to lose?
I doubt if you’d ever give in if it was Celtic still in with a chance however unlikely.
It’s not won until it is won. And it it unusually presumptios of Paul67 to make such a statement. It has Level67 written all over it!
MWD
BURNLEY78 on 21ST APRIL 2016 9:14 PM
Real dignity and humility from our manager today.
Contrasted with some of the thick as pigshit So called Celtic supporters on radio Clyde tonight.
Entitlement complex CFC.
Astonishingly enough,our resident !Bugle”,Neganon,managed to turn this post into an attack on the Board.FFS.
“Either way,expect little criticism from a former Celtic employee. As usual.”
Bobby,
Is there as much to criticise as we’d like to think?
Everyone and their dug had lenny down as having mega stories to tell about the baddies on the board.
And yet he won’t dismiss a return.
Go figure.
HH
Geordie Munro
No mystery there…NL needs a job, and he is not shy in putting himself forward.
HH
BMCUW
Yes, absolutely agreed and the silence is as you say, probably a pre-condition.
A form of U.S. Style ‘at will’ with the gagging clauses added.
TBH the sutuation makes me want to gag too…
HH
Can I just say Liam (or Lium) Fox is a wanker!
MWD
Tgm,
Bombs and bullets and a breakdown with the board.
I’m not sure he’s that desperate.
If true that is
HH
MWD
Caught the cheeky bassa talking about Crony Capitalism.
Chancer
HH