So where did it all go wrong for Ronny Delia? First of all, it didn’t all go wrong. He won two leagues, and if you think it was impossible to lose those, just think back to a team in last season’s Championship, who enjoyed an equally superior income over their competitors, but lost the league to Hearts by the length of the M8.
It was just as possible for Aberdeen to win the league this season or last, as it was Hearts (reeling only months after going into administration) to win the Championship last season. Ronny delivered the primary requirement each season – the league title, but he failed on the second tier requirement – qualify for the Champions League.
Soon after the Legia Warsaw debacles Ronny reflected on the question about whether it was right to ask his new team to adopt his tactics, instead of waiting until he’d recruited players to fit his system.
Two years on we are still remarkably short of players to play his system. Innumerable wide midfield players have come and gone, with many still lingering in the stands. We have an enviable list of creative mids in the squad, yet none have been able to dislodge Stefan Johansen, who by his own admission is having a disappointing season.
Then there’s the striker roles. Leigh Griffiths has been a significant reason why we’ll be crowned champions again over the next few weeks, but he’s pretty much on his own. No one has been able to put pressure on him. For a while Leigh had to wait until John Guidetti and Stefan Scepovic dropped out of the picture, but you’ll struggle to recall this season’s striker arrivals, Carlton Cole and Colin Kazim-Richards, three years from now.
For these reasons, we can say recruitment is where it all went wrong for Ronny. It’s not about 4-2-3-1, half the top teams in Europe play with that formation, nor is it (the now abandoned) zonal marking system, also the dominant top-level defensive system.
We’ve simply recruited the wrong players for creative midfield and striker positions. It’s also subtler than to just say we’ve not recruited good enough players. Some who have escaped Celtic Park after arriving in the last 22 months have done pretty well elsewhere. Guidetti and Scepovic are La Liga strikers, while Jo Inge Berget also made it to the Bernabeu this season.
None of them are great, but I suspect we made them look poorer than they are. Kazim-Richards is unlikely to trouble Sergio Ramos next season, but there’s more to him that what we’ve seen, or will see. We’ve been a place careers diminish disproportionately.
On the positive side, Ronny brought the best out of Leigh Griffiths. He moved the disintegrating Emilio Izaguirre aside for 18-year-old sensation, Kieran Tierney, (the biggest winner on Sunday). And he finally resolved some of the least-organised set-piece defending known to man with the recruitment of Erik Sviatchenko (on this point, you cannot over-estimate the value of adding one good player to a team).
One thought crossed my mind several times this season: If he hadn’t spent so much money fruitlessly trying to make one system work, would he have acknowledge he was on the wrong road and changed tactics?
He backed himself into a corner so stuck with the same faltering policy at Celtic, but surely, surely, if he walks into another job soon, unhindered by that wasteful use of budget, he’d not follow the same tactical strategy which failed him?
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Good night CQN
See you all at the title winning game
Damn!- did it again
Evening,
MWD, great point, it’s not won till it’s won. I will be there on Sunday, sorry you won’t, and enjoy the hoops. I really hope you change your mind, even for next season, as I obviously enjoy your company. Take care “D” HH.
Geordie Munro
He seemed pretty keen in tv interviews today.
I also thought to myself…..seriously!
Back to the future.
The mind boggles
HH
Nothing is won till it’s won. Says so in my fortune cookie.
To say otherwise tempts an almighty hubristic boot in the baws. And is way too watp for my liking.
And this collective set of clowns could still blow it. Didn’t Sunday teach us that?
As for the notion that it was all just down to RD and that he was the principal figure in duff/bizarre player recruitment policies that predate his arrival…..well excuse me as I struggle to get comfy because of all the buttons on my back!
DD has allowed CFC to fall into a state of significant disrepair. Poor business practice. Appalling football custodianship.
As for RD’s public performance in front of the media today, he showed class. Hasn’t worked as a game say manager but there’s so much more that’s rotten to the core.
Ragin’BassaCSC
HH jamesgang
Geordie Munro
In fact, i will be referring to NL from here on in…as Marty McFly:)
I bet you he is digging out his self-tying trainers as we speak:)
HH
BMCUW
Glad you got through your heavy session at work. Hope you’re well and looking forward to sorting out the world’s important issues tomorrow. Lol. HH.
Weefra
Hello and good night youngster!
HH jamesgang
MWD, the world of politics changed the day the big sassy tory Ms Goldie hung up her boots and didnay park them under ma love chariot.
She’s dead to me:_(
ACGR
But would it stop you????
;-)
Laters hottie
HH jamesgang
BMCUW
Oops, my personal secretary also wished you a great good night. Honestly, I don’t know what I pay that woman for. Lol. HH.
Tgm,
I do feel for guys who are put on the spot now and again.
I strongly believe most guys say one thing on camera, whilst often thinking another in private.
Ach I’ll lose no sleep over the whole ‘debacle’. There’s never any of them lost sleep over me :)
HH
JAMESGANG
How are you my fhriend. Hope you and the wee fhella are going on Sunday. Looking forward to meeting up again. HH.
Wee Fra
I won’t be back until PL has gone at a minimum.
I wasn’t a great fan of Ronny but PL failed in that appointment. But worse than that he fails the fan base daily. I have no time for him.
I also believe, for all the Res 12 guys honesty and goodwill, the Bonus collector has no want to match their efforts. If he did, it is Cektic who would take the reigns with the evidence provided by the hard work of these guys.
That prick ain’t making another penny out of his bonus from my hard earned salary!
Pollok boy my arse. He has no realisation or has list it completely what it is to be a Pollok Bhoy. He may have lived/visited Braidcraft road but he has no understanding of the work and ethics of the true Bhoys from the area who actually are true Bhots and Ghirls.
Hope he ducks off soon.
Can’t even Stand the sound of his name anymore.
Fud!
MWD
5 Questions on Celtic ..
1) Celtic currently have approx 27,000 Shareholders = 5% voting share ..
Dermot owns 29% directly and influences 66% = 95% in total ..
So Dermot and a few friends can out vote 27,000 Shareholders
plus 40,000 Season Ticket Holders who don’t have a vote ..
Allowing for approx 12,000 who are both still leaves 55,000.
So Dermot and a few friends can out vote 55,000 Supporters ..
What accountability does this provide for the club ..
2) If Dermot wanted to increase his shareholding and exceed 30%
and then bid for complete control who would then protect the Club ..
3)Should Celtic be a Club to be traded and sold to the highest
bidder when the time is right ..
4) 40,000 – 50,000 Celtic Supporters give the Club
approx £20-£25 Million per annum depending on Europe etc ..
This accounts for approx 40-50% of Club Revenues ..
Should Supporters expect 50% voting share for giving 50% revenue ..
5) Should all Supporters have an Equal Vote, or continue
to be treated with contempt and as Second Class Supporters ..
BobM, I,m only picking up the Irish prince if his flight disnay impinge on my dram time. I.e. no later that about 5PM.
HH weefra, hope all is peaceful with you, mrs fra and yer assorted beasts, fowl and farmy stuff. Get yer arse into fun city on the afternoon of 7th May.
HH
JG…….hahahahah.
Naw
Geordie Munro
I do think RD has been treated badly.
Nobody can blame him for trying.
Its those who used him as a scapegoat, that need to be held responsible.
However decided a rookie could be pitched into the dog eat dog Champions League…without any decent players.
Is a fool.
No way to run a club a magical as Celtic.
We can only live in hope for better times.
HH
Liam Fox – arrogant nyaff when junior doc in Bellshill Maternity – loathed by one and all.
Not improved with age.
HH
BGFC
ACGR
We had a brilliant day today. Was at Lanark Poultry Market from 1030 this morning and had lunch in their brilliant restaurant. We bought 9 hens and 2 hen cages for a total of, over a ton. The things you do for a quiet life. Lol. Hope your well my good fhriend and looking forward to our meet up again at CP. best wishes to Pedro. HH.
Tgm,
I don’t disagree with much but grrrr stop calling him a rookie. ;)
Does Warbs ever get referred to as a rookie?
HH
Night Night all. HH.
Geordie Munro
In Euro terms…id say RD was a rookie.
I dont think he had the profile of a decent Celtic manager.
Warbs…he will get found out next season, if he is still around.
Opinions eh:)
Marty McFly…please join us,..who are you going to be tonight.
Well Matthew…Tonight, im going to be Neil Lennon:)
HH
“We bought 9 hens and 2 hen cages ”
Weefra,
Nice to hear from you. Loving your bantam :)
HH
GEORDIE MUNRO.
:-)))) Nighty Night. HH
Tgm,
Kinda a rookie.
But probably no more a rookie in euro terms than our last good few managers.
Anyways it’s done now.
1.21gigawatts csc
New Management Team.
Neil Lennon and Mo Johnston
Jim White: Well Mo…you dirty wee double turncoat, back at Celtic as Assistant Manager…Who would have thought it eh (Sneer).
MJ: Aye Jim, shocked me as well…but i bumped into Peter Laaaawelllll in yon corridor…the rest is history(Drawl)
JW: And Neil…did you ever think you would be back as Celtic manager, again, without a transfer budget(Smirk)
NL: Jim…Peter says we have nae money…thats good enough for me, but hopefully we can sue Derk at the High Court and get our money back, and buy Willo Flood(Grin)
MJ: Yes indeed…Nae borra
JW: Well, there you have it….hope springs eternal eh(Chortle)
NL: Aye Jim, it does(Swift Kick)
MJ: Yes Jim, who the feck do you think ye ur..ya bampot(slap)
Could Happen:)
HH
Why should P67 get so much criticism re the leader intro? Does he pen ALL of the lead articles?
MWD… re PL, Bellarmine aye but The Free State of Pollok in the 70’s … naw, he is from Eaglesham…
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Starter for 10…
Spondulix for a head of scouting at CP 2015/2016???
More than the first team coach???
TBM
THEBARCAMOLE
Eh?
You saying John Park is paid more than Ronny Deila?
Ffs,that is some going…
I heard a wee while ago that….
RD was on £3k a week!
Lennon left coz the hierarchy wouldn’t pay him as much as Salary was getting at a 3rd div team!
Anyway…..
Eye’s on the ball….those who recruited Ronny have to be removed
cause if they aren’t….they’ll do the same again.
They’re only there for your money so….don’t give them it.
DD
PL
LL
IB
BW
etc…
Get rid of the whole effin lot!
Yeez got conned by all the huns dying p#sh.
But, yeez also showed how cheap ye can be when
ye jumped into mountains of jelly & ice cream.
How guid does it taste now ?
This is yer ‘last’ season book renewal opportunity to effect
the changes that could, ultimately save Celtic FC from slowly,
sliding down the leagues or…..worse.
Once the season book renewal form is signed and sent back,
confirming your financial commitment to the club or, rather
what masquerades as the club….there’s ‘no’ going back.
It’s your open goal.
Who will you be – Henrik or, Patrick Roberts ?
All kidding aside, the future of what’s left of the club will soon be
in your hands.
You can either, be strong – empty the hierarchy – and, rebuild what’s
left of the club back up to what it should be.
Or, let yer heart’s rule your head’s – be weak and, give in to the hierarchies
spin – and, allow the present charlatans to relieve you of your money then,
throw you to the ‘rising’ hun establishment as they look the other way.
In beloved memory of the Rebellious Ghost’s of the Jungle….
empty the deceitful, kowtowing basturts!
You’ll Never Walk Alone…in the Jungle.
……zzzzzzzzz……..
Up and away at the crack of early to pull someone out of a legal and business fire hopefully ………. I am getting to old for getting up and going to the coalface at this time of the day and it banjaxes me for the next couple of days.
Anyway.
celtic1member1vote on 22nd April 2016 12:09 am
That is the very reason I always gave when arguing that Fergus’ idea of a PLC structure did not and could not ever guarantee that the fans would always own Celtic.
I understand why it was done, agree with it as a way to get Fergus’ money out and a way in which to spread the ownership out – especially at the first share offer – but it was never going to ensure that the fans owned the club in the way he described.
I am glad Ronnie came over with some class yesterday.
No matter what we all do in life, or whether we succeed or fail, it always has to be remembered that it is not a crime to do the best you can and not succeed for one reason or another.
Human beings are human beings and we all make mistakes from time to time, have feelings, can get hurt and sometimes have to dust ourselves down, pick ourselves up and get on with the new day as best we can no matter what happened yesterday and no matter what is going on in the background of our lives.
At the Celtic FC Foundation Charity Sleepout, Ronnie came over to those of us who were sleeping out for the homeless and made a short speech.
It was his birthday and there had been a few drinks taken.
In the course of his speech he said that no matter what you did in life, succeed or fail, it was most important that we looked after and looked out for one another.
I thought then, and think now, “This is a classy individual and a man whom I respect” – I hope he goes on to achieve success in the future.
Speaking of failing — getting yer knickers on in the dark was something I always had difficulty with. This morning is no feckin different!
Aye,….Ronny’s a class act
but,….Fergus’s deceit was slip of the pen.
Oh,….awe right then.
Fergus took the fans share-issue money
loaked the fans ootside
then haunded the keys of the club to his
shay pal – Dermo Desmond.
And we were telt awe the corruption was
at ibrokes!
Sold doon the swanee river!
Fergus – SCREWED – the Celtic supporters
his shady pal has continued the deceit
with aplomb!
Soulless Celtic FC!
What’s the point…..?
….off-feckin-oot……
typos – so fluk!
…oot….
Good morning CQN
Hope you are not all up as early as
Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan Kevjungle and me
I am so sorry it did not work out for
Ronnie and Celtic
I wish him all the best for the future
Let’s hope that we can get someone in that
Knows how to motivate the players and get the best out of them
I feel Ronnie did not motivate them enough and we lacked that
Bit of spark and fight
Hail Hail
Mt
The point with which I struggle is “Should well-paid players in a Celtic Jersey require external motivation?”.
if the players are not willing to play for the jerseys, irrespective of the perceived failings of the manager, get rid of asap. HH
Why should millionaire players, living a pampered lifestyle in their mollycoddled universe need “motivating”?
My dearest wish is that we get an Italian manager along the lines of Conte, headed for Chelsea.
Then we would soon see who needed motivating.
At least Derk was open about being a layabout and wage thief.
Celtic jerseys in extra-small only these days.
ImpostersCSC
Good morning friends from a dry and bright, though cloudy East Kilbride.
If Aberdeen match our results over the next 2 weekends, we’ll remain 8 points clear of them when we play them with 3 games to go and therefore have a chance to win our 5th league title in a row at home. However, I won’t shed any tears if St Johnstone beat them tonight.
I wonder what preparations are taking place in the boardroom with regard to recruiting our new manager. I sincerely hope their is someone with a good football brain assisting. This next appointment is critical. I’m hoping it’s David Moyes, many will have their own favourite, but I think someone like DM would be prepared to ask the right questions to ensure the board’s ambition were aligned to his own. Another project type manager would most likely be more reluctant to dig deep and ascertain exactly what input he will have on the key decision making.
So what would a Moyes type need to know?
1. I’d imagine he would already have an idea of who he would want as his assistant (s). Would that be a given?
2. You would als have to assume he’d want at least 5-6 players brought in almost immediately and would wish to release more than that. If that was going to incur a net spend of £20m to £25m, will the money be made available? If not, how much will be available?
3. Will he have full authority on all football matters ?
I think that just those 3 questions alone would let a new manager assess whether the position is the right move for them.
It’s likely, that if for example we interviewed an Alan Stubbs type, they’d be less likely to make the kind of demand that a Moyes or Keane would.
I truly hope DD will be prepared to back this next appointment by sanctioning the expenditure.
I’m sure if he does, with the right man at the helm, those CL nights are not far away.