The sun shone, McStay’s Maestro’s ‘Celtic’ won from being two goals down and 25,000 people contributed to War Child, Unicef and the Rio Ferdinand Foundation. Yesterday was another defining yardstick on the Celtic journey.
Getting the balance of these games right, in order to provide an actual ‘match’, is difficult, but the two sides managed it. There were fewer Directioners there to see Louis Tomlinson than last year, but their contribution to the causes was still welcome.
Frank McAvennie scored a classic Macca goal. Hollywood A-lister James McAvoy converted a penalty kick and looked as happy as you or I would in the circumstances. We’re going to struggle when Tom Boyd retired from the Legends game. Simon Donnelly and Bobby Petta looked like they could still do a job in the pro game, but special mention has to go to Gary Tank Commander (Greg McHugh). The words “Nice, Lubo”, left my lips as I mistook Greg for someone else after a deft piece of skill. Don’t ask me to explain.
It wasn’t football as you know it, but it was Celtic supporters doing what they do best – helping those in need.
All this came a day after the Paradise to Cardenden Cycle 2014, when a group of fans cycled from Celtic Park to John Thomson’s grave for the Celtic FC Foundation.
The Foundation is not the club, it is you, me and thousands like us who believe Celtic is something greater. It works in four arenas:
Health
Equality
Learning
Poverty
There’s no obligation for Celtic fans to get involved, or to cherish any of the above, but I know many of us get a whole lot more out of Celtic by anchoring to these principles.
There’s a sense that we’ll see a new Celtic on Saturday. Looking forward to it immensely.
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I have heard a number of people on the YES side suggest that after Independence the hope is to build a fair, socially responsible, vibrant society.
A laudable aim, but one that won’t come cheap.
Many of these folk are Labour voters, so would it be reasonably accurate to suggest that the leaders of this new Socialist Nirvana will emerge from within the current Labour movement in Scotland?
If so, why is the current devolved Scottish Government not controlled by these stalwarts of fair play and moral integrity? Presumably the choice was there for them to given this power at the last Holyrood Elections?
If not, where will they come from……..will they somehow emerge from the mists to the haunting skirl of the pipes with their faces painted blue and a set of Moses-like tablets that set out the way forward to the Utopia that awaits?
Honestly, it would make a cat laugh to listen to some of the maudlin nonsense that is being spewed out from some quarters as Braveheart Syndrome really takes hold.
If the Oil really is there to fund Shangri La, then Salmond and the YES campaign would and should be producing cast-iron proof that the figures stack up. The fact that they are falling short of making anything but vague gestures ought to really worry people.
The fact that this does not is disappointing to say the least.
There is too strong a whiff of sentimentality in the YES Rhetoric and not enough hard evidence.
That said, the NO Campaign almost deserve to lose for being so complacent and not pointing out the huge gaps in their opponents’ figures.
Had to use my first aid training at the weekend after one of my U19 players was knocked unconscious and stopped breathing. He was out for about 3 minutes, and by my guess, didn’t breath for around one minute of that.
It was the “swallowed his tongue” scenario, only of course, folk don’t actually swallow their tongue, it’s a bit of a misnomer. Irrespective, I was surprised at how effective the manoeuvre is in practice.
What surprised me more was that when his airway was cleared, he exhaled. I had it in my mind that the reflex would work in the opposite way – it would draw breath first – but in this case, there was a very obvious breath out, followed by a pause and then resumption of breathing.
There you go.
Lesson? Get some first aid training. It’s quite useful.
Steel, car & ship building could return tomorrow if people are prepared to work for less than they do in the far east.
I think we’ll be sticking with Starbucks, Greggs and Poundland though. :-)
MWD
martin compston@martin_compston
Under no illusions how lucky and privileged I was to be on that pitch the lap round will stay with me all my days best fans in the world
Norway and Holland and Germany have thriving shipyards, and they have higher average wages than here. It’s not all about cheap.
Neganon
You may end of with something called the NHS.
But it will be a wholly private contribution thing called the NHS. an NHS were UK government ministeers with their hands in the tills and investments in place will earn substantially from their thing calle dthe NHS.
You are really adept at the misrepresentation of the issues at hand. For that I take the words of one of your fine leaders and lather your shoulders with them – I salute your indefatigabliity.
MWD says AYE
Celtic team for Aberdeen
Gordon
Lustig or Matthews Denayer VVD Izzaguire
Kayal Bitton Johansen
Mubarak Scepovic Berget
Subs to be Used:- Commons Guidetti and Ambrose
While we’re on the topic of breathless…
Can I send my warmest wishes to newly confirmed Unionist Dontbrattbakinanger, who along with the Sweetheart, voted Yes last week.
TwoUpFrontCSC
NegAnon2
13:24 on
8 September, 2014
Saint stivis so having stable and prosperous economic conditions are not important. Is this simply a scorched earth approach by yes voters. Hope that it hurts anyone who might have any money?
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my point is stock market volatility wont change my YES VOTE.
if theres panic in the city, then that tells me they have more to lose than the scottish nation.
maybe thats why they will hoist the pound on us.
lol
Neganon…
65% of my life in Scotland was governed by a Tory led government… I’m not even sure I’d call New Labour a much different party!
You are happy with The House of Lords then?
NegAnon2
13:24 on
8 September, 2014
Saint stivis so having stable and prosperous economic conditions are not important. Is this simply a scorched earth approach by yes voters. Hope that it hurts anyone who might have any money?
“Stable and prosperous economic conditions”
Your head is up your jacksy.
Stick to football,you make some points there that are not as ridiculous as that one.
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Turkeybhoy
13:24 on 8 September, 2014
‘With the massive downgrading of Tobacco revenues,and in the event of a YES vote,losing the oil revenues,can you honestly see the NHS surviving in England?.’
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Two questions. The firsts one’s a matter of fact, the second a matter of opinion.
Have the Tories increased spending on the NHS year on year while they’ve been in power?
Yes or no will do.
Do you think the electorate in England will vote into power a party that is intent on abolishing the NHS, or return to power a party that has abolished the NHS?
Bom dia from Lisboa. Saw Roy Ayres and Greg Wilson last night. A real special night of music. Glad to know the Maestro got a result yesterday. Hail hail!
TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels
13:24 on 8 September, 2014
Here dont you be bringing thon fitba talk on here now :))))
Good to see you yesterday again as always.
Till later all
does anyone know if the trains will still run in an independent scotland ?
I heard the rails belong to a company darn sarf.
TBJ
Thanks!!!! I was wondering – starting to think if I showed up on Sat that I would be the only one there!
Turkeybhoy……….”With the massive downgrading of Tobacco revenues,and in the event of a YES vote,losing the oil revenues,can you honestly see the NHS surviving in England?”
Decent question………….Which I don’t have an answer to.
I’m not sure what the oil revenue is to the treasury but this Tory government gave £85 Billion a year in taxpayers money (do you think they’d have been elected if that was in their manifesto?) to GP’s who are not in the NHS.
Privatision is well down the line IMHO, regardless of yes or no, north or south.
a prize for the best made up “independent scotland scare story” one today.
Saint Stivs
13:35 on 8 September, 2014
I think the point is that it seems to be Scottish companies whose shares are taking a tanking.
Might not worry you, but it might worry the employees and suppliers.
Some of whom might be Scottish.
tonydonnelly67
12:39 on 8 September, 2014
The wee grannie shagger is meandering through a political mine field, tossing a coin shouting heads turn left, tails turn right, if there was ever a guy winging it he’s that guy, he is to politics what Charles Green was to Sevco, but in saying that chuckles played a stormer ;
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Who is this guy who’s been giving your mum one Tony?
Last one
Has there been any progress in the Kris Commons contract talks?
Ole Dontbrattbakinanger – what larks, what larks.
Sftb,
Is wee mcgregor injured?
Dude at work says he wasn’t even on the bench last night.
ernie lynch
13:37 on
8 September, 2014
Said “Do you think the electorate in England will vote into power a party that is intent on abolishing the NHS, or return to power a party that has abolished the NHS?”
So Ernie – it’s all up to the people in your English backyard?
Thanks for clearing that one up…?
Are you happy with the House of Lords? I’m darn sure you never voted for it!
The Battered Bunnet
13:35 on
8 September, 2014
While we’re on the topic of breathless…
Can I send my warmest wishes to newly confirmed Unionist Dontbrattbakinanger, who along with the Sweetheart, voted Yes last week.
TwoUpFrontCSC
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braw :)
Moonbeams WD. Wee Oscar’s our Bhoy and Kano’s our mhan.
13:34 on 8 September, 2014
‘Neganon
You may end of with something called the NHS.
But it will be a wholly private contribution thing called the NHS.’
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Yep.
The English will vote for that.
Of course they will.
By the way have the Tories cut spending on the NHS?
Or have they increased it?
NEGANON away and give yourself fekin peace.You are dragging everyone back into the Indy debate.Non-stop p!sh.You and Ernie on shifts?.Not one YES voter agreeing with anything you say,so what is your aim.
Away onto Facebook and spout your drivel there.
Thats it for me.Flight to catch.Game on Saturday.
Wakaso,Scepovic,Tonev,Guidetti.OH YES.
God bless Robert Tressell, and those who adhere to his independent views.
If you want to vote independently of any bias or unsubtle editorial influence, think and vote independently. I am personally not sure, but Please VOTE
What are the chances wee Kate Middleton might be miraculously un-pregnant after the referendum?
Panda’s CSC
Bob Campbell ,former Celtic player,left to join rangers as a player then director
Nicknamed. The Baby Elephant .
Even then they had one in the room ;)
HH
Decision made
Postal vote gone
I am more than happy with my choice
I hope for my children and their children’s children we as a nation
are a success, honest and there will be an abundance of happiness
throughout OUR land……..A nation once again.
A BIG YES FOR ME !!
Saint Stivs
13:39 on 8 September, 2014
‘a prize for the best made up “independent scotland scare story” one today’
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Well this one’s quite scary.
Not sure you’d describe it as ‘made up’ though. You don’t get to be a professor at Princeton by making up stories.
Scots, What the Heck?
Paul Krugman
Next week Scotland will hold a referendum on whether to leave the United Kingdom. And polling suggests that support for independence has surged over the past few months, largely because pro-independence campaigners have managed to reduce the “fear factor” — that is, concern about the economic risks of going it alone. At this point the outcome looks like a tossup.
Well, I have a message for the Scots: Be afraid, be very afraid. The risks of going it alone are huge. You may think that Scotland can become another Canada, but it’s all too likely that it would end up becoming Spain without the sunshine.
Comparing Scotland with Canada seems, at first, pretty reasonable. After all, Canada, like Scotland, is a relatively small economy that does most of its trade with a much larger neighbor. Also like Scotland, it is politically to the left of that giant neighbor. And what the Canadian example shows is that this can work. Canada is prosperous, economically stable (although I worry about high household debt and what looks like a major housing bubble) and has successfully pursued policies well to the left of those south of the border: single-payer health insurance, more generous aid to the poor, higher overall taxation.
Does Canada pay any price for independence? Probably. Labor productivity is only about three-quarters as high as it is in the United States, and some of the gap may reflect the small size of the Canadian market (yes, we have a free-trade agreement, but a lot of evidence shows that borders discourage trade all the same). Still, you can argue that Canada is doing O.K.
But Canada has its own currency, which means that its government can’t run out of money, that it can bail out its own banks if necessary, and more. An independent Scotland wouldn’t. And that makes a huge difference.
Could Scotland have its own currency? Maybe, although Scotland’s economy is even more tightly integrated with that of the rest of Britain than Canada’s is with the United States, so that trying to maintain a separate currency would be hard. It’s a moot point, however: The Scottish independence movement has been very clear that it intends to keep the pound as the national currency. And the combination of political independence with a shared currency is a recipe for disaster. Which is where the cautionary tale of Spain comes in.
If Spain and the other countries that gave up their own currencies to adopt the euro were part of a true federal system, with shared institutions of government, the recent economic history of Spain would have looked a lot like that of Florida. Both economies experienced a huge housing boom between 2000 and 2007. Both saw that boom turn into a spectacular bust. Both suffered a sharp downturn as a result of that bust. In both places the slump meant a plunge in tax receipts and a surge in spending on unemployment benefits and other forms of aid.
Then, however, the paths diverged. In Florida’s case, most of the fiscal burden of the slump fell not on the local government but on Washington, which continued to pay for the state’s Social Security and Medicare benefits, as well as for much of the increased aid to the unemployed. There were large losses on housing loans, and many Florida banks failed, but many of the losses fell on federal lending agencies, while bank depositors were protected by federal insurance. You get the picture. In effect, Florida received large-scale aid in its time of distress.
Spain, by contrast, bore all the costs of the housing bust on its own. The result was a fiscal crisis, made much worse by fears of a banking crisis that the Spanish government would be unable to manage, because it might literally run out of cash. Spanish borrowing costs soared, and the government was forced into brutal austerity measures. The result was a horrific depression — including youth unemployment above 50 percent — from which Spain has barely begun to recover.
And it wasn’t just Spain, it was all of southern Europe and more. Even euro-area countries with sound finances, like Finland and the Netherlands, have suffered deep and prolonged slumps.
In short, everything that has happened in Europe since 2009 or so has demonstrated that sharing a currency without sharing a government is very dangerous. In economics jargon, fiscal and banking integration are essential elements of an optimum currency area. And an independent Scotland using Britain’s pound would be in even worse shape than euro countries, which at least have some say in how the European Central Bank is run.
I find it mind-boggling that Scotland would consider going down this path after all that has happened in the last few years. If Scottish voters really believe that it’s safe to become a country without a currency, they have been badly misled.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html
I fear No’s will be proven to be right.
5 years from now, the Rt Honourable member for Weegieland East, Declan Ahmed former Greed Brigade General, will be putting forward a resolution to support the Geordie separatists holding out on the Eastern border and calling for aid in the form of Irn Bru and 6 pin plug weapons.
Meanwhile The Edinburgh Movement for Border Access will be calling on the removal of so called ‘North Korean style border posts where allegations of illegal trading in Dr Who DVD’s is proof of double standards.’
The President of England, Boris Johnson and his trophy wife Michelle Moan are said to be having a ‘trial separation’ after it emerged he was found squeezing into her latest rubber-corset design before it had been patented.
Some Rangers fans are calling for a protest as a show of dignified remembrance. Numbers are unconfirmed at this stage.
Ernie
see you’re still avoiding questions……..and not acknowledging answers given to you.
ernie lynch
13:40 on
8 September, 2014
Saint Stivs
13:35 on 8 September, 2014
I think the point is that it seems to be Scottish companies whose shares are taking a tanking.
Might not worry you, but it might worry the employees and suppliers.
Some of whom might be Scottish.
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will any firms go bust if its a yes vote ?
will people stop buying their services or goods ?
other than a boycott by the english on scottish produce , how are normal trading conditions affected by a yes vote.
are tunnocks and barrs shares down today ?
their the important ones.
The blog is now 90% dedicated to the independence debate, or is it better described as name calling. Anyway carry on if you must but I for one am off oot for a few weeks.
scots to become a nation without a currency, he is mad that boy,
lol,
cheers for sharing.
Folks judge politicians by their actions, achievements and decisions.
Are you happy with Westminster’s effects on you and your’s. What about the Scottish government, what have they done to you with devolved power?
Look at the evidence, not rhetoric.