Tomorrow’s SPL meeting is something of a formality, albeit as dramatic as a formality can be. The main scheduled action of the week is underway at Hampden right now. We hear that after issuing threats to exclude 20 SFL clubs from future access to the top two divisions in Scottish football, SPL and SFA chief executives, Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan, will face irate SFL chairmen.
In mitigation of the criticism coming his way, Mr Doncaster is offering your money, in perpetuity, to buy votes to allow Sevco to gain direct access to the First Division. If passed, they would probably enter the SPL next season, close to debt free, while Celtic carry peak debt of around £35m after playing by the rules and not qualifying for Champions League football during the last three seasons.
In short, if Mr Doncaster manages to persuade the SFL chairmen to back his plan, Sevco will become by far the strongest team in the SPL a year from now.
The plan has been rejected as wholly unacceptable by an impressive list of clubs with no association whatsoever with Celtic, many of whom exist hand-to-mouth and whose vote against will cost them considerable income.
Doncaster’s part in creating this shambles cannot be underestimated. He perpetuated the myth that “Rangers” should and would be in next season’s SPL, allowing people to invest in an undeliverable strategy, including Charles Green.
Mr Doncaster is an employee of the company Celtic are an equal-twelfth shareholder in. His actions are wholly incompatible with sporting meritocracy. As Celtic shareholders we call for his resignation and, if this is not forthcoming, demand he faces a confidence vote.
“Without fear or favour” was the promise from Stewart Regan when he told us he would apply the rules evenly as the Rangers saga unfolded. In advocating rules are torn up and replaced his words are laughable.
His assertion that the actions of Campbell Ogilvie over Rangers EBTs had been investigated and that Ogilvie was found to be without blame was misleading. It is our assertion that the actions of Mr Ogilvie were not investigated at all and that Mr Regan spoke to protect his ally, who remains in position despite being “heavily conflicted” according to Mr Regan, and the SFA being in desperate need of a strong and active president.
Mr Regan is now wholly compromised and must resign or also face a vote of confidence. Two years ago he joined a dysfunctional organisation. He had a great opportunity to make a name for himself as a successful troubleshooter. Instead he’s made matters worse!
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bamboo on 4 July, 2012 at 08:41 said:
Cosgrove keeps going up in my estimation. On shortbread morning news giving strong auguments for sevco to div 3 .
Then on to SSN to see Bill”lord’ Foulkes also forcefully speaking out against sevco in the SPL.
Yesterdays talk-in on shortbread with Spence English Traynor and co ended with the fat one threatening English that he would not get back onto”your call”.
Apparently his outburst has now been edited out on shortbread web.
interesting stuff i listened back to the daily rekord blog and im sure they re-edited it too
traynor is a revisionist we have proof and for the bbc to be complicit in that is a disgrace
OOPS, ONE OR TWO TOO MANY. APOLOGIES
Can anyone tell me who’s the current Chairperson of the SPL?
(I notice also from the SPL’s website [http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s33] that there’s a ‘David Ogilvie’ serving as ‘Operations Administrator’ … he’s not related to Ol’ Rhino-hide … is he?
FF
TimBhoy in Spain
Imagine next season if Rangers are in the SFL1 and are playing the final game ; imagine if you will they are sitting in second place or even outwith a play-off place.
In the final minutes of the game Elbows McCulloch thunders his way into the box as he brushes against the defender and falls (it a dive) to the ground.
The poor old ref would have no other option but to give a penalty and order off the Goalkeeper (who was not involved).
After all the future of Scottish football depends upon it !!!!
♫ Hector Avocado ♫ ♪ on 4 July, 2012 at 08:46 said:
OOPS, ONE OR TWO TOO MANY. APOLOGIES
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Not Enough
I’m not a businessman but is it not logical that the members/shareholders of a business in this case the SPL when seeing that their CEO Neil Doncaster is incompetent and incapable of delivering the goods can they note vote him out or fire him.
Why are the SPL clubs putting up with this clown..
Boots his failing ass all the way out of the game..
right bad start to the day catching clown Doncaster spouting his lies on SSN,
hopefully the SPL chairmen will cheer me up with a massive no vote,
Morning all, did anyone else miss this thread yesterday?
Secret meetings and sensationalist news ,10.24 till 19.18.
Thinks I need a lie doon?????????????
parkheadcumsalford.. @ 08:22,
There was a similar situation during Dougie! Dougie! when a Referees’ “spokesman” was reciting the mantra re: the poor hard pressed Scottish officials, I e-mailed R4 then without reply.
Still it’s a good suggestion, if I get time later on I’ll send one.
Good morning friends from a slightly damp but bright-ish East Kilbride.
That’s my 24-hour party finished (and thanks again to all of my wellwishers). What did I miss?
Jobo
Morning all.
If I understand correctly, the season for some starts on 28th July (Ramsden Cup). The SPL season starts on 4th August. At this point in time, less than 4 weeks before the start of the season we have at least 3 existing clubs and 1 potential newco not knowing what league they’re playing in.
Dundee and Dunfermline – one of them, we assume, will be playing in the SPL.
They don’t know which one of them it will be and, as a result, they are unable to plan appropriately for the coming season in terms of playing squad and setting appropriate season ticket prices. Their fans are unable to plan for home or away fixtures as they don’t know if the published ones are going to change for them or not. This shambles is replicated throughout the leagues down to Spartans et al who may be keen to join League 3.
Speaking of planning, I contacted Sky who even at this stage said they had no info on televised fixture dates and times for the first weekend of the season. At the moment as we know we are at home on Sat 4th August with a 3.00 kick-off. I’m guessing that will change for TV purposes but Sky said they had no info.
Trying hard, if we put all of the shenanigans at rfc deceased and sevco to one side (I know!) we are in a situation, if not created by the game’s administrators, at least exacerbated by them and their incompetence and unwillingness to act. Their unwillingness to apply their rules “without fear or favour”.
They have left a minimum of three clubs – and I’m being charitable there – in a situation that they don’t know where or when their first game is less than a month before kick-off. Putting their clear bias towards accommodating all things Govan aside, for that, and that alone, they deserved to be frog-marched out of Hampden. It is gross incompetence.
I doubt they’ll have the decency to resign but if they remain in place the game will be run by incompetents, liars and cheats for years to come. They must be removed no matter how this pans out.
From Garngad to Croy I am Neil Lennon. on 4 July, 2012 at 08:50 said:
The whole situation just leaves me speechless.
Thing is nobody outside Scotland hardly knows or cares about this.
Seems like UEFA don´t give a monkeys.
This was Paul’s header.
Secret meetings and sensationalist news
Posted on 3 July, 2012 by Paul67
The headlines screamed today of secret meetings between Sevco owner, Charles Green, and SPL chairmen, as Green attempted to convince them to change direction and vote Sevco into the SPL. Jim Spence reported exactly the same on the BBC at the weekend, crucially adding how little impact the pleas had and that the SPL vote was certain to go against Sevco.
‘News’ that three clubs were prepared to back Green is just another way of reporting that at least eight clubs will vote against. A suggestion (which came from Kilmarnock) that SPL clubs vote in secret ballot instead of an open show of hands is laughable and will be dismissed.
Tomorrow’s SPL meeting will be a lot less significant than today’s Scottish Football League meeting. More on this later.
starry plough on 4 July, 2012 at 08:51 said:
As I posted on previous page, how do we know they don’t approve of what he says?
It’s Mr Topping
Well kown Business man and R@ngers supporter and puppeteer.
He recently resigned hie SFA position.
From Garngad to Croy I am Neil Lennon. on 4 July, 2012 at 08:50 said:
TimBhoy in Spain
Imagine next season if Rangers are in the SFL1 and are playing the final game ; imagine if you will they are sitting in second place or even outwith a play-off place.
In the final minutes of the game Elbows McCulloch thunders his way into the box as he brushes against the defender and falls (it a dive) to the ground.
The poor old ref would have no other option but to give a penalty and order off the Goalkeeper (who was not involved).
After all the future of Scottish football depends upon it !!!!
this has to hammered home
Sorry
meant Folly Folly @ 08:49
There are only two viable options:
1.Doncaster – Resign!
2.Doncaster – Resign!
I think the decision will be to delay making a decision .
I think that anything less than having to beg to be allowed to begin again by starting at the very bottom will be definitive proof of Scottish fitba being as corrupt as corrupt can be .
Pander to the Hun and the game is truly a bogey .—– no point !
Clubs like Juve / Inter and AC cheated Italian football by using bog standard bribery , blackmail and intimidation .. In Scotland the Hun gets to corrupt and cheat by consensus. and the ever so accommodating approval of the relevant authorities .
We have the beginnings of a counterrevolution in the Scottish game—— I hope it will not be betrayed…
Another 40 plus day – way down south – Early July —— By Mid August it will be very hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=066oSmDRKPA
Morning All,
Yesterday I made what I thought was a fairly innocuous comment that I think that Celtic should make no statement at the moment (as no decisions have actually been made yet) and got slaughtered for “supporting Sevco”.
One poster even suggesting that my suggestions that public disorder might break out in the streets against Celtic fans in the case that we did make a statement against the inclusion of Sevco in the SPL could result in public disorder on the blog as I was “supporting” them.
Then what happens, John Brown says that Green has “surrendered” to Peter Lawwell (the use of the word surrender was not accidental, the man is a raging bigot) and that real Rangers men would defend Sevco against the Timmy conspiracy that is taking place.
This in spite of the fact the Celtic have made NO public statement on the matter!
This is the mind-set of these Neanderthals blame Catholics for everything.
The board are playing a blinder in my opinion; never interrupt your enemy whilst he is making a mistake. A negative statement from Celtic will, in my opinion, and I have lived through sectarian threats and violence when I was growing up in Ayrshire, result in Celtic supporters being assaulted or worse in the streets as “Bomber” and the like will see it as their patriotic duty to do so.
Hopefully Sevco to the SPL will die a death today albeit another “delay” would not surprise me.
Hail Hail!
RobinBhoy
gorbalstam on 4 July, 2012 at 08:55 said:
They can’t possibly approve of a guy who can’t make a TV deal that fits the game, he’s hopeless and if the chairmen care about making money wouldn’t they want to get a man who can do just that unless of course he’s just a puppet….
This is just the start the whole game require cleaning up that much is obvious even to the fans of other clubs now..
RobinBhoy on 4 July, 2012 at 09:02 said:
That doesn´t seem to make sense to me unless I´m reading it wrong.I thought the majority consensus on here was the Celtic board shouldn´t say anything.
Surely any incitement would be likely to be caused by a Celtic statement against Sevco?
Thanks, Chairbhoy: I wrongly thought Topping had stood down from the SPL …
FF
Robinbhoy
So you are advocating the cowardice route in face of intimidation!
greenjedi on 4 July, 2012 at 09:08 said:
Any fool can shout his mouth off, John Brown for example..
timbhoy in spain,
That is exactly what I am saying, keep your powder dry until there has been a decision made, then we as a club can speak.
greenjedi
Cowardice? What are you talking about? We need to be smarter than them. I trust our board to be that.
RobinBhoy
Doomcaster needs to go immediately. He is a disgrace to his profession.
Accountability?
Transparency?
Integrity?
Let’s look at who pays Doomcaster/Renagan/Longshanks
Footballing Leaders rely on Footballing Bodies who rely on Leagues that rely on Membership that rely on Clubs, who rely on Fans.
It is that easy.
As a fan, I discharge them from their commission.
And in other news – Naismith has signed a 4 year deal with Everton… That’ll be another EPL club for Mr Green to see in court.
starry plough on 4 July, 2012 at 09:04 said:
I agree that this man is a buffoon. Howver if the chairmen of SPL clubs see him that way, why is he still there and why is he allowed to represent them in the media and make the statements he has, with no public challenge?
Boycott
…and BBC say ‘Rangers have also confirmed that they have agreed John Fleck’s move to Coventry City.’… Maybe Mr Green has realised he doesn’t have a legs to stand on… Or if it’s ‘Rangers’ that have agreed it’s D&P – who can say?
Today will be hard enough let’s try and keep it civil Bhoys.
Do Celtic PLC want Newco in Div1? por cierto
gorbalstam on 4 July, 2012 at 09:15 said:
That’s the mystery I was hoping today would clear up…
I can’t see any benefit to any club having this voted postponed, clarity has to come sooner or later or there will be no football played by anyone..
What a shambles run by idiots..
When time can we expect the vote to take place at? Anyone know?
Por Cierto on 4 July, 2012 at 09:18 said:
I am coming to the conclusion that Doncaster is a red herring and that the, ‘viable’ options he talks about reflect the wishes of the SPL board (and hence the SPL clubs). He takes the flak while the chairmen tell their fans that they are working in their best interests.