The problem Peter Lawwell has in criticising FoCus is that he was the one who wanted them set up. Or one of the prime movers apparently.
Now I don’t buy this entirely as in my opinion the people who drove the whole OB FoCUS agenda were the police but going by the records, at the The Joint Action Group summit of 8th March 2011 only days after the so called “shame game”, a 6-point proposal was put forward by the Football Co-ordination Unit Scotland, which consisted of Rangers FC, Celtic FC and the Scottish football authorities, and one point called for the establishment of a national football police unit.
The JAG accepted this proposal and as a result (FoCUS) was established in July, 2011, backed by a £1.8m investment from the Scottish Government.
There is also evidence that JAG (Lawwell and all) had accepted the OB Bill “(once passed)” would be the basis of training the police so this presents Peter with a problem. IMHO of course.
This isn’t my impression of the football authorities & OF being marched to the summit and told to sign up to the government’s and police’s demands.
O’K Celtic later distanced themselves from the OB and apparently didn’t attend the later JAG meetings (once they saw how unpopular the Bill was), but the fact remains that at the inception and on the record our club’s fingerprints are all over FoCUS & OB Bill (once passed).
He should have told the truth, we are getting cheated every game, bring on another strike.
But no, he is doing his masters bidding, bending over even further to appease them.
Back of the bus, we are no even on the bus.
HH
67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on
smoke and mirrors
23:46 on 14 December, 2013
Absolutely…….the real Celtic Supporters just want to enjoy the Celtic experience………and any ultra politico nutters will get shown the door…..hopefully, the real Celtic Supporters within the ranks of the GB will return to the fold and assist in enhancing the already brilliant Paradise Experience…….
Some of the rants / threats on here tonight were just silly…..
Kojo is a hero for all the happy clappers on CQN. He doesnt swear, hides under the west of scotland drivel dictionary, has the most racist facist political views on CQN but thats ok because when it comes to talking football and tactics of our beloved celtic well he talks a pile of $%&$ tae!
Mos Def, well until my fellow Celts are targeted. I hate the FACT my Son seen young Celts being questioned going to Celtic Park. Normalising a Police STATE.
Kojo is a dude, maybe he is a Lady, who just speaks his Truth. I applaud him for it. I am pissed off that so many get hung up about it.
Yer awe Judgemental mentalists.
The TRUTH is piercing.
WeefratheTim on
tricoloured ribbon
23:43 on 14 December, 2013
Weefrathetim !
You distinctly said on here earlier that posters on here made heroes of the the Green Brigade and implied that people who weren’t at the game had no opinion on what happened today,
Please repost where I said heroes were being made of the GB. Plus, how does anyone not at the game can give an opinion of any issues can give a reasoned opinion, unless second hand. Are we talking blatant obvious sense here? How is it possible for anyone not at the game give an honest and accurate account of what actually happened at the game? Incidentally, I believe a total of 3 fans were dismissed from the stadium, the way you lot are on you would think it was the whole SW stand. You lot really have to get a life, or …. Ach I’m no saying it. I’ll be renewing my ST next season and won’t miss the doomsdayers who won’t. Oh, and all the supporters in the supporters club I am honoured to be a member, are also renewing.
A few of us managed to get our hands on Barca season books for the game on wed, quality seats at the half way line, tickets for the section were about 120 euros.
The books cost them 750 for the season, that includes all games, CL, Copa del Ray etc, they also pay 150 a year for membership, seems a reasonable deal for the product on the park.
HH
Delaneys Dunky on
Just watched a live video of Jesus and Mary Chain. WOW. How good were they EK dudes?
thunder and rain high winds starting up here in the monklands…..looks as if we are in for a rough nite…….that lenny guy luvs the sound of thunder….good enough for him then good enough for me……off to get the ear plugs…..nite nite guys
Seems to be a variance with how most on here viewed it
67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on
the exiled tim-free the dam 5
23:47 on 14 December, 2013
There was no ‘treatment’ of the support, so you can sleep easy…..!!!!!!
iPaddy McCourt Supports Wee Oscar on
Delaneys Dunky
Got a link to the Mary Chain show?
gebhoy on
We will soon be playing with the bottom tier open only.
The hun will be back in 2 years, spouting their usual bile.
Hun refs will “set phazers to honest mistake level 1”
The SMSM will rejoice at the hun return.
The PLC will say nothing, except announce its £50 a ticket for the “new auld new firm derby”.
roll up roll up roll up!
gebhoy
67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on
….pfayr supports weeoscar
00:19 on 15 December, 2013
That doesn’t make him a bad person….!!!
Tricoloured Ribbon on
Weefra
At 22.09 you said,
This blog tends to make heroes out of these guys who just cannot follow the company rules.
Sorry I can’t cut and paste that full comment.I’m saying no more on this
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on
PFayr
Madden seemed to allow the Hibs players to kick several Celts, especially second half. He contrived to book 2 Celts: Emelio for diving and Samaras for very little. Haven’t seen the alleged dive to judge.
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The problem Peter Lawwell has in criticising FoCus is that he was the one who wanted them set up. Or one of the prime movers apparently.
Now I don’t buy this entirely as in my opinion the people who drove the whole OB FoCUS agenda were the police but going by the records, at the The Joint Action Group summit of 8th March 2011 only days after the so called “shame game”, a 6-point proposal was put forward by the Football Co-ordination Unit Scotland, which consisted of Rangers FC, Celtic FC and the Scottish football authorities, and one point called for the establishment of a national football police unit.
The JAG accepted this proposal and as a result (FoCUS) was established in July, 2011, backed by a £1.8m investment from the Scottish Government.
There is also evidence that JAG (Lawwell and all) had accepted the OB Bill “(once passed)” would be the basis of training the police so this presents Peter with a problem. IMHO of course.
This isn’t my impression of the football authorities & OF being marched to the summit and told to sign up to the government’s and police’s demands.
O’K Celtic later distanced themselves from the OB and apparently didn’t attend the later JAG meetings (once they saw how unpopular the Bill was), but the fact remains that at the inception and on the record our club’s fingerprints are all over FoCUS & OB Bill (once passed).
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/1124/0119254.pdf
http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/925/0123798.pdf
This acquiescence makes it difficult for Peter/Celtic to speak up for the fans when FoCUS run amock.
IMHO of course.
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
23:52 on 14 December, 2013
I’ve no idea. I find it hard to believe, but if it’s true then things are bad. They’re not exactly fair weather fans.
Ernie Lynch,
I can tell you tension is at breaking point in the Six Counties,don’t know about the 26.
Smoke and Mirrors might have the solutions…
ernie lynch
23:47 on
14 December, 2013
Struck gold? Nothing to do with me.Everything to do with Celtic.
S.D.P. external threat.
(Scottish “establishment” in the case of Celtic.The judiciary,prime example.)
Militant tendency.Internal threat.Entryist.
Smoke and Mirrors
Who feeds you?
Are you Jackanory himself?
Emus
How are you old pal ?
Lidl’s rijoa is the dogs b******.
Petec,have you ever considered it,Cursillo I mean?
Jingle bells, Jingle bells, Jingle all the way, Oh what fun it WAS to …………………
Always Celtic.
TCR
Did he really say that ?
Tired, dearie me.
He should have told the truth, we are getting cheated every game, bring on another strike.
But no, he is doing his masters bidding, bending over even further to appease them.
Back of the bus, we are no even on the bus.
HH
smoke and mirrors
23:46 on 14 December, 2013
Absolutely…….the real Celtic Supporters just want to enjoy the Celtic experience………and any ultra politico nutters will get shown the door…..hopefully, the real Celtic Supporters within the ranks of the GB will return to the fold and assist in enhancing the already brilliant Paradise Experience…….
Some of the rants / threats on here tonight were just silly…..
Margaret McGill
23:45 on 14 December, 2013
Kojo is a hero for all the happy clappers on CQN. He doesnt swear, hides under the west of scotland drivel dictionary, has the most racist facist political views on CQN but thats ok because when it comes to talking football and tactics of our beloved celtic well he talks a pile of $%&$ tae!
_______________________________________________________
How do you explain me then Marge?
Am I Joko, or the TSD?
I’m a happy Clapper?
Mos Def, well until my fellow Celts are targeted. I hate the FACT my Son seen young Celts being questioned going to Celtic Park. Normalising a Police STATE.
Kojo is a dude, maybe he is a Lady, who just speaks his Truth. I applaud him for it. I am pissed off that so many get hung up about it.
Yer awe Judgemental mentalists.
The TRUTH is piercing.
tricoloured ribbon
23:43 on 14 December, 2013
Weefrathetim !
You distinctly said on here earlier that posters on here made heroes of the the Green Brigade and implied that people who weren’t at the game had no opinion on what happened today,
Please repost where I said heroes were being made of the GB. Plus, how does anyone not at the game can give an opinion of any issues can give a reasoned opinion, unless second hand. Are we talking blatant obvious sense here? How is it possible for anyone not at the game give an honest and accurate account of what actually happened at the game? Incidentally, I believe a total of 3 fans were dismissed from the stadium, the way you lot are on you would think it was the whole SW stand. You lot really have to get a life, or …. Ach I’m no saying it. I’ll be renewing my ST next season and won’t miss the doomsdayers who won’t. Oh, and all the supporters in the supporters club I am honoured to be a member, are also renewing.
Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.
G64
What is the Rioja called ?
HH
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25384888
Exiled Tim.
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/?p=14355&cpage=21#comment-2027070
Yes but the SDP weren’t an external threat to begin with were they?
They were maggots within the organisation who did as much damage to it as they could while claiming to have its own best interests at heart.
Tricoloured Ribbon
23:59 on 14 December, 2013
Petec,have you ever considered it,Cursillo I mean?
_____________________________________________
First Time I have heard about it.
The hour is late.
I listened to that Shortbread discussion earlier with Spiers, Cosgrove and Jackson.
Jackson’s views about the GB were similar to some of the posters on here.
I wonder if he has a log in.
A few of us managed to get our hands on Barca season books for the game on wed, quality seats at the half way line, tickets for the section were about 120 euros.
The books cost them 750 for the season, that includes all games, CL, Copa del Ray etc, they also pay 150 a year for membership, seems a reasonable deal for the product on the park.
HH
Just watched a live video of Jesus and Mary Chain. WOW. How good were they EK dudes?
TCR
Thanks, dismayed at the tired comment.
HH
thunder and rain high winds starting up here in the monklands…..looks as if we are in for a rough nite…….that lenny guy luvs the sound of thunder….good enough for him then good enough for me……off to get the ear plugs…..nite nite guys
No being a professional athlete, this Tim is tired and off to bed.
HH
KTF
ernie lynch
00:06 on
15 December, 2013
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/?p=14355&cpage=21#comment-2027070
Watching the Rock’s finest now. David Byrne. :)
TET, light weight:-)
Lenny thought ref had a good game apparently
Seems to be a variance with how most on here viewed it
the exiled tim-free the dam 5
23:47 on 14 December, 2013
There was no ‘treatment’ of the support, so you can sleep easy…..!!!!!!
Delaneys Dunky
Got a link to the Mary Chain show?
We will soon be playing with the bottom tier open only.
The hun will be back in 2 years, spouting their usual bile.
Hun refs will “set phazers to honest mistake level 1”
The SMSM will rejoice at the hun return.
The PLC will say nothing, except announce its £50 a ticket for the “new auld new firm derby”.
roll up roll up roll up!
gebhoy
….pfayr supports weeoscar
00:19 on 15 December, 2013
That doesn’t make him a bad person….!!!
Weefra
At 22.09 you said,
This blog tends to make heroes out of these guys who just cannot follow the company rules.
Sorry I can’t cut and paste that full comment.I’m saying no more on this
PFayr
Madden seemed to allow the Hibs players to kick several Celts, especially second half. He contrived to book 2 Celts: Emelio for diving and Samaras for very little. Haven’t seen the alleged dive to judge.
Doc
I may be many things,but lightweight….no chance, a wee fat bassa.
Have listened to praecepta remenising all about the Celts for Change the past few days, interesting stuff.
HH
67 heaven,
Are you saying all the posters on here earlier tonight are liars?
Like some other posters who are much worthier than i
i will be taking a sabbatical from cqn.
The love that i have for my club runs deep
and i do not wish to fall out with like minded souls.
From now on i shall fight the good fight on my own terms.
I wish you all the luck in all your endeavours .
Take care.
HH
BCW
It was a stonewall pen.
HH
It’s gonnae be a long night.
The Ashes are at Stake.
God and his Story always has a bad guy.
When the huns died, that was everything sorted and everything is hunky dory for at least a decade?
God will only put Believers through what they can handle. A shame for the non Believers.
TET, also chatted with Praecepta about that, fascinating stuff.
Night bud.