Its not the players (domestically at least) but the chosen system which stops at the manager.
Bhoy From The Boyne on
Anyway, not to add to the continued doom and gloom on here.
Actually looking forward to the international break and take it from there, lots of games coming thick and fast and hopefully some fluidity back to the team by then.
Trying not to think too much about Poundland this weekend.
79caps on
Back to Basics @ 7.43
BR did not sign Dembele, whose move to Celtic had been agreed before Brendan arrived.
Turkeybhoy on
“Weaker than last season.” The in phase at the moment.On inspection,does not hold up.We lost Jota,yes,a big blow,and not easy to replace.Luis Palma is in the building,and Yang looked very good.So still pending on that one.Mooyas you will know,I was the strongest advocate on here,to sign him,not the most popular choice on CQN,but he came in and played his part,maybe featuring in half our games.Not the cataclysmic loss some are portraying.We have an extra CH,which most were desperate for,we have kept the remaining star players from last year,so just how ae we weaker ?Odin still to really play.Tilio,same.We have horrendous injuries making us weaker,but I am sure that’s not what was meant.
Panic ,impatience,the lust for Bling,which we mock the scum for and doom seems to grip Celtic fans more than others.At its worst with certain posters on here,who,to be honest,have their own agendas.
Chairbhoy on
79CAPS @ 11:26 AM,
That wasn’t the case, Dembele was signed after Brendan Rodgers joined Celtic, in fact after Moussa had a meeting with BR
MD said Brendan Rodgers promised him a move to a higher league if he signed for Celtic
When was going to Lyon, BR didn’t want Moussa to go, he got pee’d off that Brendan wasn’t keeping his word – he even tweeted about it….
Aff Oot
Hail Hail
Turkeybhoy on
Turkish media saying the Croatian keeper signed for £ 6.5 million,and wages of 60,000Euros per week.
bigrailroadblues on
Good morning all and welcome another week of fun.
connaire12 on
Like others on here, I was not impressed by the referee on Saturday. We were informed by the press that he was new to Premiere League football. But he is not new in the knowledge of how to treat Celtic. He has learned well from the Dallas school.
Did anyone else noticed that while the St Johnstone goalkeeper continued to waste time at kick outs, the referee continued to walk up the pitch every time with his back to the goalkeeper? I think Callum and at least one other Celtic player spoke to him about the situation but he did nothing about it.
Not saying that was why we did not get the result we wished for, but it does say that the North Lanarkshire mafia still rule in the refereeing department.
celtic40me on
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
I think calling Celtic supporters names on blogs because they disagree with you reflects more poorly on you than them.
Moisey17 on
Lambert 14 is 100% correct and its really poor form for anyone to be calling people Huns because they happen to believe what is happening in front of their eyes.
We have been here before many times going back as far as you like and i honestly though after the past two years or so that we had at last changed to a more ambitious (but still sensible) plan to build the team, and consequently the business, but once again balance sheet trumps team on the park.
We should plan and be judged on our progress in European competition – if we do this with some relative success the domestic stuff takes care of itself………
Relative success to me looks like being competitive in the CL groups, not getting spanked by anyone, perhaps getting out the group from time to time, getting 3rd and EL, going a few rounds in EL perhaps last 8 or 4 occasionally. Of course the odd surprise exit happens but equally so does the odd surprise run – lets not just be CL group fodder breaking records for all the wrong reasons…….
Is that to much to ask?
Saint Stivs on
Rodgers was appointed manager of Scottish Premiership champions Celtic on a 12-month rolling contract on 20 May 2016,
Dembele was signed 26th June 2016,
Tom McLaughlin on
Some posters claiming that booing on Saturday was aimed at the board and not the players.
So how do you explain the booing directed at the players and manager as they did their customary walk round the pitch applauding the support? In fact it was more than collective booing. Grown men were leaning over the perimeter walls shouting and swearing at the players, in front of children and young supporters. About 50 at the front of the GB section were particularly abusive to Brendan Rodgers.
Disgraceful, hun-like behaviour.
Tom McLaughlin on
BRRB
Where did you watch the game on Saturday morning. McHale’s?
It’s nearly impossible to shop in the EPL Market unless they are in the last year of their contract
And even if they want to come it’s probably too expensive for Celtic
From KTs point of view he could well run down his contract at Arsenal and come back to Celtic possibly next year most likely the year after when he will be in his final year
Meaning, and my point today – the Cavalry is not coming
Not Dier not Holding not any established footballer from the EPL
I foolishly started believing that we were about to take it to another level
Selling Jota was understandable especially if we were going to shop in the big shop
Could we afford KT for a year or Dier or Holding – yes I think we could afford one of them
But I think players of that quality are beyond Lawwell’s (both) imagination/budget
Are we back where we ended in Feb 2019
Brendan shopping in Harrods
Lawwell (the younger) shopping in Lidl
So the next 4 days
Palma is coming (from Greece)
I hope we have some influence with Man City and get one of their wonderkids
I pray there is a first team ready goalkeeper and left back that has never been mentioned in the speculation column but I am losing faith
In Ange’s time we seemed to buy early and he seemed to know them
Kyogo, Hatate, Johnson, Jota, O’Reilly, even CCV and a few more, all relatively unknown
Does this tell us our successful recruitment over the past 2 years was the Manager – NOT the recruitment team
Is Brendon pissed off because he was sold a “new look” recruitment department only to find nothing has changed
I am a self confessed Brendan fan and I am delighted he is back
BUT I do not get the impression he is happy – even before we went to Kilmarnock
The next four days (why does it always come to this) are now becoming a critical time in our season
Have our recruitment team got first team influential players available and about to come to Celtic
Or are we panicking and gambling on more projects
Is this why Brendans face is tripping him (is that the right word)
Only Celtic could spin me from super confident to FFS in a few weeks
Brendan I sense we may need you to work your magic starting on Sunday
Hail Hail one and all
67ECW
lambert14 on
TURKEYBHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:35 AM
“Weaker than last season.” The in phase at the moment.On inspection,does not hold up
——————-
You disagree with the manager then.
Yes injuries have played a part, especially Hatate and Oh and we had no other option at centre forward but thats the risk a club takes if it only has 2 centre forwards on its books for matches in Scotland.
Mooy is a huge loss.
He was the best midfielder in Scotland from after the world cup until his injury.
Our best 3 players in midfield last season were McGregor, Hatate and Mooy.
On Saturdays match, if our 2 new midfielders couldn’t get any game time from the misfunctioning midfield that played on Saturday then that maybe answers the question if we are stronger or weaker.
‘..the lust for Bling..’
Try and calm down.
Thats cringeworthy.
Maybe that shows up your mentality.
Looking for players to take us to a better level who can step in and do a job is now ‘the lust for bling.’
We had 60 million in the bank at last accounts.
The money is there to buy automatic first team starters who can make our midfield highly functional rather than one paced.
We have no box to box midfielder or proper tackler for matches against quality.
But thats a ‘lust for bling’, hey, but you are definitely a Celtic fan………..
Moisey17 on
not my recollection of the end of the game – large burst of jeering at the final whistle which had stopped by the time i was out my seat and halfway to the exit.
The walk round was largely respectful but i can’t comment on what GB did as i was out by then – there is no doubt that the vitriol is “largely” directed at the executive
lambert14 on
CELTIC40ME on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:45 AM
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
I think calling Celtic supporters names on blogs because they disagree with you reflects more poorly on you than them.
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What name did I call you?
lambert14 on
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 12:15 PM
CELTIC40ME on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:45 AM
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
=========================
There is nothing wrong with buying projects and potentials.
However we need automatic starters too to try to compete at a higher level.
Your argument is nonsensical.
Teams with a blend normally do best.
We are lacking in key areas and projects won’t do for what we should be trying to achieve.
Were you at the AGM last year?
The strategy that you value was being replaced.
‘Dont get used to having your heroes here for long’ Ange said.
Buy high and sell high was the new motto so as we could try and bring in better players to give us a better chance in Europe.
Jota was sold for £27 million, where are the new ready made replacements in keeping with the new policy change?
Was it ditched when Ange left?
P67 on here was adamant too that this was the best way to go.
So why is bringing in better quality that should help us improve in key positions which in turn should yield better results, which brings in greater income, which in turn gets these new players big moves for big fees, which means having more money to spend on better players which starts the whole ball rolling again, which the last manager, the board and P67 endorsed going to lead to ‘short term failure and a failure of strategy’?
As far as I can see, the failure of strategy is showing up from our European results over a number of years, buy you seem to think that still the way to go.
Why repeat the same mistakes and expect different results, as someone famous once said.
Will the club finally deliver the much vaunted trading up this week? I take encouragement from P67’s blog today. I’d be happy with loan to buy options that have worked so well for us over the past 2 years. Hopefully not a reliance on EPL duffer loans, albeit any incoming CB needs to surely be a loan. More CCV & Jota less Duffy & Laxalt
For all the chat of goalies and left backs the most obvious screaming need is in midfield. If we don’t bring in some strength, athleticism and craft in midfield we are goosed. A midfield of MO’R, Turnbull and this version of CalMac would be calamitous. All good players, just not together. Too one-paced and weak in the tackle.
The club has been trading down the past two windows, replacing seasoned internationals with young guys with future potential (sell on value). Oh for GG, Holm for Mooy, Yang for Jota, Nawrocki for `Starfelt etc. all these young boys look like exciting long-term talents, but the immediate impact is a fall off in quality and experience. If this week brings more unproven young lads I fear for this season and the resulting swing in resources and momentum to the huns.
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Thursday night EPL bargain bin, I guess :-0
Its not the players (domestically at least) but the chosen system which stops at the manager.
Anyway, not to add to the continued doom and gloom on here.
Actually looking forward to the international break and take it from there, lots of games coming thick and fast and hopefully some fluidity back to the team by then.
Trying not to think too much about Poundland this weekend.
Back to Basics @ 7.43
BR did not sign Dembele, whose move to Celtic had been agreed before Brendan arrived.
“Weaker than last season.” The in phase at the moment.On inspection,does not hold up.We lost Jota,yes,a big blow,and not easy to replace.Luis Palma is in the building,and Yang looked very good.So still pending on that one.Mooyas you will know,I was the strongest advocate on here,to sign him,not the most popular choice on CQN,but he came in and played his part,maybe featuring in half our games.Not the cataclysmic loss some are portraying.We have an extra CH,which most were desperate for,we have kept the remaining star players from last year,so just how ae we weaker ?Odin still to really play.Tilio,same.We have horrendous injuries making us weaker,but I am sure that’s not what was meant.
Panic ,impatience,the lust for Bling,which we mock the scum for and doom seems to grip Celtic fans more than others.At its worst with certain posters on here,who,to be honest,have their own agendas.
79CAPS @ 11:26 AM,
That wasn’t the case, Dembele was signed after Brendan Rodgers joined Celtic, in fact after Moussa had a meeting with BR
MD said Brendan Rodgers promised him a move to a higher league if he signed for Celtic
When was going to Lyon, BR didn’t want Moussa to go, he got pee’d off that Brendan wasn’t keeping his word – he even tweeted about it….
Aff Oot
Hail Hail
Turkish media saying the Croatian keeper signed for £ 6.5 million,and wages of 60,000Euros per week.
Good morning all and welcome another week of fun.
Like others on here, I was not impressed by the referee on Saturday. We were informed by the press that he was new to Premiere League football. But he is not new in the knowledge of how to treat Celtic. He has learned well from the Dallas school.
Did anyone else noticed that while the St Johnstone goalkeeper continued to waste time at kick outs, the referee continued to walk up the pitch every time with his back to the goalkeeper? I think Callum and at least one other Celtic player spoke to him about the situation but he did nothing about it.
Not saying that was why we did not get the result we wished for, but it does say that the North Lanarkshire mafia still rule in the refereeing department.
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
I think calling Celtic supporters names on blogs because they disagree with you reflects more poorly on you than them.
Lambert 14 is 100% correct and its really poor form for anyone to be calling people Huns because they happen to believe what is happening in front of their eyes.
We have been here before many times going back as far as you like and i honestly though after the past two years or so that we had at last changed to a more ambitious (but still sensible) plan to build the team, and consequently the business, but once again balance sheet trumps team on the park.
We should plan and be judged on our progress in European competition – if we do this with some relative success the domestic stuff takes care of itself………
Relative success to me looks like being competitive in the CL groups, not getting spanked by anyone, perhaps getting out the group from time to time, getting 3rd and EL, going a few rounds in EL perhaps last 8 or 4 occasionally. Of course the odd surprise exit happens but equally so does the odd surprise run – lets not just be CL group fodder breaking records for all the wrong reasons…….
Is that to much to ask?
Rodgers was appointed manager of Scottish Premiership champions Celtic on a 12-month rolling contract on 20 May 2016,
Dembele was signed 26th June 2016,
Some posters claiming that booing on Saturday was aimed at the board and not the players.
So how do you explain the booing directed at the players and manager as they did their customary walk round the pitch applauding the support? In fact it was more than collective booing. Grown men were leaning over the perimeter walls shouting and swearing at the players, in front of children and young supporters. About 50 at the front of the GB section were particularly abusive to Brendan Rodgers.
Disgraceful, hun-like behaviour.
BRRB
Where did you watch the game on Saturday morning. McHale’s?
new article posted.
Like most on here I find myself sliding from a summer of wild excitement, about the season ahead to FFS
I also find when times are good I read and enjoy the words of wisdom, humour and insights on CQN
I rarely post BUT when I get nervous the keyboard gets it, so here I go
The Summer hype had me thinking there was a chance Kieran Tierney would come home
Possibly a punt on Dier or Holding any one of them would be great for us
The Croatian goalkeeper – brilliant
Oh this is our time – the next level and a good run in Europe
BTW I think Brendan was sold the same story
So what happened
Did Brendon try and get Kieran Tierney?
If trying to get one of our own is impossible – where does that leave us ????
I wish Kieron all the very best in Spain
I think (only my opinion) he would have come back to Celtic this year if it was possible
His contract goes until June 2026 and he earns £5.7m a year (£110k a week)
https://www.spotrac.com/epl/arsenal-fc/kieran-tierney-32750/
It tells 2 stories
It’s nearly impossible to shop in the EPL Market unless they are in the last year of their contract
And even if they want to come it’s probably too expensive for Celtic
From KTs point of view he could well run down his contract at Arsenal and come back to Celtic possibly next year most likely the year after when he will be in his final year
Meaning, and my point today – the Cavalry is not coming
Not Dier not Holding not any established footballer from the EPL
I foolishly started believing that we were about to take it to another level
Selling Jota was understandable especially if we were going to shop in the big shop
Could we afford KT for a year or Dier or Holding – yes I think we could afford one of them
But I think players of that quality are beyond Lawwell’s (both) imagination/budget
Are we back where we ended in Feb 2019
Brendan shopping in Harrods
Lawwell (the younger) shopping in Lidl
So the next 4 days
Palma is coming (from Greece)
I hope we have some influence with Man City and get one of their wonderkids
I pray there is a first team ready goalkeeper and left back that has never been mentioned in the speculation column but I am losing faith
In Ange’s time we seemed to buy early and he seemed to know them
Kyogo, Hatate, Johnson, Jota, O’Reilly, even CCV and a few more, all relatively unknown
Does this tell us our successful recruitment over the past 2 years was the Manager – NOT the recruitment team
Is Brendon pissed off because he was sold a “new look” recruitment department only to find nothing has changed
I am a self confessed Brendan fan and I am delighted he is back
BUT I do not get the impression he is happy – even before we went to Kilmarnock
The next four days (why does it always come to this) are now becoming a critical time in our season
Have our recruitment team got first team influential players available and about to come to Celtic
Or are we panicking and gambling on more projects
Is this why Brendans face is tripping him (is that the right word)
Only Celtic could spin me from super confident to FFS in a few weeks
Brendan I sense we may need you to work your magic starting on Sunday
Hail Hail one and all
67ECW
TURKEYBHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:35 AM
“Weaker than last season.” The in phase at the moment.On inspection,does not hold up
——————-
You disagree with the manager then.
Yes injuries have played a part, especially Hatate and Oh and we had no other option at centre forward but thats the risk a club takes if it only has 2 centre forwards on its books for matches in Scotland.
Mooy is a huge loss.
He was the best midfielder in Scotland from after the world cup until his injury.
Our best 3 players in midfield last season were McGregor, Hatate and Mooy.
On Saturdays match, if our 2 new midfielders couldn’t get any game time from the misfunctioning midfield that played on Saturday then that maybe answers the question if we are stronger or weaker.
‘..the lust for Bling..’
Try and calm down.
Thats cringeworthy.
Maybe that shows up your mentality.
Looking for players to take us to a better level who can step in and do a job is now ‘the lust for bling.’
We had 60 million in the bank at last accounts.
The money is there to buy automatic first team starters who can make our midfield highly functional rather than one paced.
We have no box to box midfielder or proper tackler for matches against quality.
But thats a ‘lust for bling’, hey, but you are definitely a Celtic fan………..
not my recollection of the end of the game – large burst of jeering at the final whistle which had stopped by the time i was out my seat and halfway to the exit.
The walk round was largely respectful but i can’t comment on what GB did as i was out by then – there is no doubt that the vitriol is “largely” directed at the executive
CELTIC40ME on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:45 AM
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
I think calling Celtic supporters names on blogs because they disagree with you reflects more poorly on you than them.
————————
What name did I call you?
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 12:15 PM
CELTIC40ME on 28TH AUGUST 2023 11:45 AM
LAMBERT14 on 28TH AUGUST 2023 10:55 AM
I don’t agree with your point of view
Honestly, I find it hard to understand why you can’t see the merits of our strategy. I struggle to get my head around your short-term thinking; it’s as plain to me as the failure of the strategy is to you.
But that’s me. I don’t think you’re less of a Celtic supporter because I think your vision of Celtic is wrong
=========================
There is nothing wrong with buying projects and potentials.
However we need automatic starters too to try to compete at a higher level.
Your argument is nonsensical.
Teams with a blend normally do best.
We are lacking in key areas and projects won’t do for what we should be trying to achieve.
Were you at the AGM last year?
The strategy that you value was being replaced.
‘Dont get used to having your heroes here for long’ Ange said.
Buy high and sell high was the new motto so as we could try and bring in better players to give us a better chance in Europe.
Jota was sold for £27 million, where are the new ready made replacements in keeping with the new policy change?
Was it ditched when Ange left?
P67 on here was adamant too that this was the best way to go.
So why is bringing in better quality that should help us improve in key positions which in turn should yield better results, which brings in greater income, which in turn gets these new players big moves for big fees, which means having more money to spend on better players which starts the whole ball rolling again, which the last manager, the board and P67 endorsed going to lead to ‘short term failure and a failure of strategy’?
As far as I can see, the failure of strategy is showing up from our European results over a number of years, buy you seem to think that still the way to go.
Why repeat the same mistakes and expect different results, as someone famous once said.
BIGJIMMY
Thanks mate, maybe a tenner
Best to you
KINGLubO
Will the club finally deliver the much vaunted trading up this week? I take encouragement from P67’s blog today. I’d be happy with loan to buy options that have worked so well for us over the past 2 years. Hopefully not a reliance on EPL duffer loans, albeit any incoming CB needs to surely be a loan. More CCV & Jota less Duffy & Laxalt
For all the chat of goalies and left backs the most obvious screaming need is in midfield. If we don’t bring in some strength, athleticism and craft in midfield we are goosed. A midfield of MO’R, Turnbull and this version of CalMac would be calamitous. All good players, just not together. Too one-paced and weak in the tackle.
The club has been trading down the past two windows, replacing seasoned internationals with young guys with future potential (sell on value). Oh for GG, Holm for Mooy, Yang for Jota, Nawrocki for `Starfelt etc. all these young boys look like exciting long-term talents, but the immediate impact is a fall off in quality and experience. If this week brings more unproven young lads I fear for this season and the resulting swing in resources and momentum to the huns.
Over to you plc.