I suspect we have not seen the best of Daryl Murphy, who has proven to be a solid Championship and fleeting Premier League player in England but has been unable to retain a place in the SPL, but his hamstring injury, suffered after the long flight to Pennsylvania, will be a blow on two levels for Celtic. They are denied a squad player for the crucial Champions League play-off round against Helsingborgs and are likely to unable to loan him out, easing more pressure from payroll.
Daryl was singled out for credit (here) for the way he changed the shape of Celtic in our opening league game of the season against Aberdeen. He would have been useful to Neil Lennon this coming week.
News that Helsingborgs have lost their top striker is welcome but is not quite ‘like signing a new player’ for Celtic. Let’s hope they haven’t lost their Kenny Miller only to find their Jordan Rhodes.
There can seldom have been more financially important games to the club than the Helsingborgs tie. Celtic accounts are usually released mid-August (16th last year) but I don’t anticipate any rush to publish this year. Last season’s accounts could well see the largest loss in our history as the club chased their first league win in four years (insert standard lecture on financial responsibility program, avoid urge to run legacy Sir David Murray malware).
I expect the figures to show Celtic are operating with a Champions League budget (and that’s without evading tax). Football finance lessons are clear, if you have a Champions League budget you need Champions League income. Time for this team to step up to the challenge. Get along and pack the place out on the 29th.
No regrets this time.
Bed early tonight if you are off to Dingwall in the morning. I hope we see a few of the young lads.
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me earlier:
If it was, say, Nick Griffin, ask yourself would you be making the same calls for different treatment, based on his previous contribution to society?
That was a question for everyone!
philvis, it wasn’t directed to you as a challenge, and you gave the answer I expected you to give. Others might be slower. Sorry.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire – lies and deciet are the only possible way capitalism can ever work, we both know that, its a big game of poker, innit.
Well, I imagine it might feel that way when one goes to buy a car, or shop at Aldi – like brands, but better, my foot – but for most of us, most of the time, the whole capitalism thing works out pretty well. For example, it means the likes of you and I can afford to have as more computing power on our desks or in our mobile phones than the most powerful Cray supercomputers had 20 years ago, as just one example.
And we can use it to argue with each other from the comfort of our respective homes.
Meanwhile, there was me calling you all fascists and then what happend, Assange exposed the basic mechanics behind your philosophy, and it turns out me was right. Capitalism is fascism innit
I fear you don’t know what fascism is. I hope you and I never experience it first hand. (thumbsup)
2pie x r… circumference of a pie.
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows
And everybody knows that it’s now or never
Everybody knows that it’s me or you
And everybody knows that you live forever
Ah when you’ve done a line or two
Everybody knows the deal is rotten
Old black joe’s still pickin’ cotton
For your ribbons and bows
And everybody knows
And everybody knows that the plague is coming
Everybody knows that it’s moving fast
Everybody knows that the naked man and woman
Are just a shining artifact of the past
Everybody knows the scene is dead
But there’s gonna be a meter on your bed
That will disclose
What everybody knows
And everybody knows that you’re in trouble
Everybody knows what you’ve been through
From the bloody cross on top of calvary
To the beach of malibu
Everybody knows it’s coming apart
Take one last look at this sacred heart
Before it blows
And everybody knows
Everybody knows, everybody knows
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
JimmyQuinnsBits @ 01:23
That was my point as well, he will not get a fair trial in Sweden and he knows it. And I wouldn’t recommend a Scottish jury in Sweden either.
Ecuador have stepped up to the plate. Let them or one of their neighbours hold the trial. It’s not a small affair, so the fact that they are bending rules here to get him done over, rather that follow the proper course of international law, should be like screaming alarm bells in all our ears.
http://rt.com/news/assange-asylum-cold-war-883/
jock tamson
:))
Pies r NAE squared, argued Moisty at the local Greggs yesterday.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes, tarrant – Thank you, my friends in Celtic, it just seem common sense to sympathise with the little guy who is being picked on by much bigger and more powerful forces though. For any one of us might be in the same position one day. (thumbsup)
FFM,
I know what you’re saying, and even as I’m going to state this I’m thinking about the Birmingham Six and the Lockerbie trial.
But… he does not currently have the initiative, and we need to consider the possibility that he may be guilty. If he doesn’t stand trial, why should anybody else?
good to see it resolved – the storm in the teacup – that is :)
He is only wanted for questioning on alleged offences. The Swedish authorities have been invited to the Ecuadorian Embassy to question Assange but declined. They were invited again and declined a second time and couldn’t give a reason why. He doesn’t need to be extradited to be questioned, it is purely a means of getting him to America where is will no doubt be incarcerated for a hundred years. This is how you are treated if you expose the truth. We do NOT live in a democracy, we live in a bubble where we’re all happy to pretend that we do because knowing, and doing something about the awful truth is too big a challenge for most people.
And now,here is the weather……..
I fear you don’t know what fascism is. I hope you and I never experience it first hand. (thumbsup)
whats happening to Assange is fascism, we both know if we dont conform to the capitalist idology, we will not be rewarded. I suppose it all depends on what you want.
Me, I’d like to think my taxes paid for my childrens future, I like to hope and pray that fashionable economics will be confined to the bookies
Sponsered by…..whoever.
JimmyQuinnsBits
Yep, so the first question should be is why are all these steps being taken to extradite someone on an alleged sexual assault charge. It wouldn’t be happening with anyone else. If I was confident my government didn’t have any motivation to do me over, I might also want to go and get it tried. He knows better though.
Sponsered = sponsored.
zimmerman @ 01:36
Absolutely agree.
zimmerman 01:36 on 18 August, 2012
HH
Can someone outline the Wikileaks exposes which have confirmed the sham of western democracies… other than some – albeit fairly major – diplomatic gaffs.
My dug knows America is a basket case, but is there something I’m missing? – serious question.
apologies for the literature i know it’s a Celtic FC site..
FFM,
I’m no expert, as is obvious, but I understood extradition agreements covered sexual assault charges?
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire – we both know if we dont conform to the capitalist idology, we will not be rewarded
By not “conforming to capitalist ideology”, do you mean by not working?
I like to hope and pray that fashionable economics will be confined to the bookies
Me too. Sadly, I fear Keynes and the wilful misinterpretation of his writings will always be with us. (thumbsup)
JimmyQuinnsBits – My dug knows America is a basket case, but is there something I’m missing? – serious question.
Can’t think of anything you’re missing. It’s not as if we didn’t already know Western governments were full of peevish idiots. (thumbsup)
JimmyQuinnsBits
Do you trust that the newspapers and MSM have told you all that he published? Your best bet is the probably twitter as a start amigo.
JQB,
here we are discussing alleged crimes, while the prosecuter has been proven to have committed murder, lets concentrate on what the telly tells us, ffs mhan, this is the scottish media telling us black is whyte, and you’re no convinced.
Remember the helicopter pictures murdering human beings, who is being charged with those crimes
JimmyQuinnsBits @ 01:46
Me neither. Don’t know the answer to that one.
But it’s still a nonsense.
JQB,
“diplomatic gaffs” murdering human beings like a vid game, are you fucking kidding
FFM,
no, I don’t trust the papers, and try to spread the ole info-suckers far and wide – Al Jazeera ain’t half bad – but I haven’t seen any leak thats made me go wow!
or even hmmmph
whats the twitter address/linky thing?
Keep it rockin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-_NMAllsJc
Leonard Cohen certainly does know.
And everybody knows that America wants Assange as mightily as Israel wanted Eichmann.
The dominoes are just waiting to fall and that puffed up pompous little poltroon Hague is doing his part in tipping them over by handing Assange over to the Swedes whose Secret Service is notorious and has already done a deal with the Yanks to render unto the new Rome that which they desire.
tarrant 00:51 on 18 August, 2012
Glad you liked that…DO’B is a funny bloke!
Mrs Browns Boys….I haven’t seen any of the series (I only found out recently there was a series). Brendan O’Carroll has his moments but to be honest I got tired of him a long time ago. I think he’s milking the Mrs Brown story for all he can…if there’s an audience then why not? I never did get the “bloke dressing up as a woman” thing either.
Hail Hail
The saga of Julian Assange’s extradition from Britain, which began with the WikiLeaks founder having sex with ”Miss A” and ”Miss W” in Sweden two years ago, could only have happened in a post-9/11 world. Before the US-led coalition’s ”war on terror” redefined the rule of law as dispensable, Assange’s fear of political persecution – the basis on which he has won asylum in Ecuador’s embassy in London – would simply have been ridiculous. Instead, the insistence by Britain, Sweden and Australia that there is no more to this extradition than a purely criminal investigation is debatable.
Australia, as Assange’s home country, has communicated with the US about his potential prosecution over the online release of a trove of classified information. Senior US officials have declared him a security threat who should be prosecuted for espionage. There is evidence of a US investigatory process and preparations for an indictment that could form the basis for extradition from Sweden. Australia has been a reluctant defender of Assange’s legal rights ever since Prime Minister Julia Gillard pre-emptively declared: ”The foundation stone [of the WikiLeaks postings] is an illegal act that certainly breached the laws of the United States of America.” Claims to be ignorant of US prosecutors’ plans now stand exposed as false.
The Australian attitude recalls the glaring lack of concern about the detention without charge of two other citizens, David Hicks and Mamdouh Habib, at Guantanamo Bay. The US tried to put its detainees beyond the reach of its courts, engaged in extrajudicial rendition and torture, then tailored retrospective laws to obtain convictions in military courts. Few requirements of a fair trial were met. The role of Britain and Australia in all this assists Assange’s claim that he fears extradition to the US to face charges that may carry the death penalty.
Ecuador has clashed with the US and has a record of rights abuses – notably, and ironically, in judicial interference and denying its citizens freedom of expression. However, the recent track record of the US and its allies in bending and even breaking long-standing international laws and conventions creates enough doubts about the circumstances of Assange’s case that Ecuador has felt able to accept him as a ”victim of political persecution”. The claim that he faces a real but unacknowledged risk of extradition to a third country, the US, where ”he would not face a fair trial”, is founded on the record of the past decade.
Let us be clear about this. Justice in the Swedish case requires a fair hearing of the allegations of sexual assault, a serious, non-political crime. Even given troubling aspects of the investigation and the question of whether the alleged acts constitute a crime in British law, Assange’s bid for asylum would have been doomed if only Britain and Sweden had an interest in this case, as our government pretends.
Yet if this were a routine and, in the scheme of things, minor case, would the British government be willing to move heaven and earth to get its man? Foreign Secretary William Hague even declares that Britain refuses to recognise the concept of diplomatic asylum and could arrest Assange inside Ecuador’s embassy. The threat to repudiate the Vienna Convention, which rules embassy premises ”inviolate”, recalls the US scorn for the Geneva Conventions, which has already opened one can of worms for global relations. Imagine China had made such a declaration when a dissident recently took refuge in the US embassy.
The Assange case does not require a spotless hero for us to be concerned that every citizen be afforded exactly the same rights and protections. The rule of law depends on the fair, consistent and transparent application of the law to every accused person. A nation that unfailingly does so could never credibly be accused of persecution. Assange is the first Australian to be granted asylum for fear of persecution by the US, which has long been a refuge from persecution. That speaks volumes about the tangled web left by the ”war on terror”.
JimmyQuinnsBits
Search #assange on twitter, but you’ll probably need to go delving deep to find some of the revelations.
All he/ wikileaks did was publish documentation….it was left to others to dissect them, so you will have to visit many blogs. Very similar to how CQN operated during the many leaks coming from the SFA, no? :))
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
01:52 on
18 August, 2012
did you seriously believe those things weren’t going on before the leaks? do you believe any military are significantly different from the mentality shown there? Is that behaviour peculiar to a particular political/economic system?
“This generation is burning the mass media to the ground. We are reclaiming our rights to world history.”- Julian Assange
The Yankee puppeteers do not like anyone saying that kind of thing let alone publshing ‘secrets’.
2am, drunk on a friday night, perhaps not the best time to wade into a julian assange debate, but…
i don’t know if the charges are trumped up.
i don’t know if he’ll be extradited from sweden.
i don’t know if his life is in danger in the usa.
i don’t know if it’s capitalism, or fascism, or organism that threatens him.
what i do however know, is that throughout the world, there is an accepted code of diplomatic standards which have been agreed and adopted by almost every government.
for our government to threaten, bully and coerce the diplomatic mission of a national embassy goes so far beyond scandal as to in effect be an act of war.
embassies are diplomatcally foreign soil. if, as i understand it the threat has been made to remove him by force, that is an invasion.
that is surely the real story here?
alternatively, i might be hammered and totally misunderstood it, in which case, sorry “call me” dave, you’re evidently doing a fine job. any chance of a gig at the fco?
Hands up if your a Tim and hate/despise the Huns (or whatever they are called nowadays, yesterday, last year or tomorrow).
\o/
MWD
JQB,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13qWADMfQnQ
remenber now
Diplomatic cables reveal Australia expects U.S. to charge Julian Assange
By Stephen C. Webster
August 17, 2012 “Information Clearing House” — Declassified diplomatic cables from Australia’s embassy in Washington D.C., obtained through freedom of information requests filed by The Sydney Morning Herald, reveal that Australian officials have already begun laying the groundwork for the U.S. to pursue charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
The cables show that diplomats in Assange’s home country anticipate receipt of an extradition request for Assange once a secret U.S. grand jury wraps up its investigation. They expect it so fully that embassy staff even reached out to U.S. officials for “early advice” on the potential indictment and extradition request.
The American response was redacted, the paper noted, “on the grounds that disclosure could ’cause damage to the international relations of the Commonwealth.’” Other material blacked out of the cables pertains to the prosecution of Pvt. Bradley Manning, who U.S. military prosecutors say participated in a conspiracy with WikiLeaks to steal and publish classified information.
The Herald also added that diplomatic briefings given to Foreign Affairs Minister Bob Carr and Prime Minister Julia Gillard showed they have “no in-principle objection to extradition.”
A U.S. State Department spokesperson said on Thursday that there is “no information to indicate” that the U.S. is behind Assange’s most pressing and current legal woes. “It is an issue among the countries involved and we are not planning to inject ourselves,” spokesperson Victoria Nuland said. “With regard to the charge that the U.S. was intent on persecuting him, I reject that completely,” she added.
Assange remains on lockdown inside the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where he’s been granted asylum but cannot leave due to a British police blockade. He’s wanted in Sweden for questioning on allegations of sexual assault, which he believes to be a rouse designed to imprison him ahead of a potential prosecution in the U.S. for espionage or other crimes.
It’s not clear whether British authorities will stage a SWAT-style police raid on Ecuador’s embassy, but they’ve threatened to — even though it would be widely viewed as a brazen violation of international law.