PSG were wonderful last night. They served up a great night of European football as we witness what may be the end of the greatest team of all time.
Mark Warburton fired his opening salvo against Newco with a joint statement with Davie Weir and Frank McParland issued through the League Managers’ Association today:
“We would like to formally place on record, that at no stage did we resign from our positions at Rangers.
“It is a matter of surprise to us, and to the League Managers Association, which is advising all three of us, that despite its detailed public statements, the club has not answered key questions put to it by the LMA, in writing, requesting an explanation of why it suggested that we resigned from our positions.”
I’m cringing with embarrassment on behalf of the guys at Newco who have to sign up to this guff, Stewart Robertson in particular, who has titular hands on the wheel but must feel like a hostage to fortune. This is not how he ran things at Motherwell.
More lawyers’ fees, more reputational damage, less chance of a credible future.
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DD
Huns dont hang their rags out in my street.
Their ‘outfits’ have been known to mysteriously combust for no apparent reason:)
Shocker!
HH
Moonbeams
Without wishing to sound like some kind of ever hopeful lovey dovey goody two shoes — that last post gives me hope in the persona of the Rangers fan who advised you to get to a hospital and quick.
I have no time for the bigotry, the superiority complex and all the nastiness that comes with any kind of rivalry with “them” but I have said on many many occasions on here that some of the nicest and most decent people I have ever met go, or have gone, to Ibrox.
I may not understand their affiliation with such a club (and I genuinely don’t) but I like their company and have and will share many a good night and a laugh with Rangers fans.
I hate the negative aspects of this rivalry and I long for the day when football fans just go and support their team and, I would hope, help out any injured fan no matter which team they followed.
a tale of the threads in a family. told before, several times but here goes again.
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job discrimination, and fair chances.
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james higgins came to port glasgow from coalisland country tyrone sometime around 1882. we know this because in one census he was there, and the next he was in Dardanelles close, at the very tip of the clyde, at mirren shore in the port. on the edge of the bay. he was forever registered on the census as a “boat boy”.
he was my grandas granda.
my granda who from the 1930s to the very late 1970s, with only serving in the r.a.f. apart , worked in the yards in the same job, at the lowest level, for those 40 years plus. he wore a soft cap. kept baccy or peices in it or the pockets,
i loved the old man, hard as nails, scared of nothing, stand up to the devil, very intelligent when he offered an opinion to his 14 kids, but kept down there his whole life. his legacy is seriously the laughter of his grandchildren.
who progress to many many high places in life with their brains and hard working en devours,
i am one of many.
his wife a very staunch catholic with a heritage of campbell argyle.
chapel stalwarts for saint johns , they kept it lit.
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john jackson, ulsterman first, came to port glasgow around 1915.
he worked in the belfast yards. i know he worked on the titanic, he has signed the ulster covenant while living at bread street, east belfast in 1912. we have the image from online records.
a “critical skill”, non conscripted, he came to the port to build warships, he went into the yard at 19, he allready had a bowler hat, staunchly orange, he was an instant foreman.
he was my grannies dad.
in the censuses “shipyard foreman”.
he was the high heid yin of the orange lodge in the port for some 40 years, until an unfortunate event, changed all that.
i have clear memories of the old man, in his teviot road flat, overlooking the fields of auchinleck, before the new scheme was built, i was 4, this was 1970, he passed on soon later.
i was gifted a big bag of coins that i lost somewhere along time.
they had money.
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the bad story in the family is, my poor horrible catholic father from doon the toon, spied my young mother in her orange walk regalia,
and somehow they met and that was that.
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i have no memory ever of the old man being bad to me, quite the opposite, he was kindly , and funny,
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my proddy granny Annie married a gentle english man during the war. james cox was from a working class background. he was on a number of ships based in the clyde. his war record is classified, but looks like he was in the original special boat squadron.
he had no time for the orange view of his in laws at all.
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james and Annie really brought me up. i lived most of my young life in their house, but strangely, annie made me go to mass, made me go to school, never allowed me to not be what i was baptised as.
but i spent many many days with that side of the family, weddings , christenings, a blue eyed boy i was,
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fast forward to 15. a job interview for the yards,
me from saint stivs, all i want to be in a joiner. i won some sort of certificate in fourth year for highest pass mar (with modern studies ? two awards, when was the last time you heard of a political carpenter , jeesus, its daft so it is).
granny says to me, when your getting interviewed, mention Joe Howie (my grannies cousin, high up in the orange lodge , the natural succesor to old john.
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a few weeks later i got the rejection letter,
i never got the job.
my granny was broken-hearted for me. she really did feel her side let me down,
doeant matter now, but hurt me at the time, more because i saw how she felt.
my english granda told me once, join ibm,
i got there sometime later,
but thats another story.
all i can say is at nearly 51, we won,
Bada , I had a great night tonight . Had a lovely dinner with my family , Arsenal got humped ( I can’t stand Wenger) then seeing that organisation called Close the Gap, rounded my night off really well.
Nice to see Ryan Christie score tonight . I hope he gets more time on the pitch for the Dons this season.
MWD
SAINT STIVS
Two great posts.
Respect.
HH
Tiny Tim
The same knife had done two other Tims that night around the Salt Market and Gallowgate. One guy right in his kidney. Never heard anything about the other Bhoy. Knife was recovered from bin on salt market and cops knew and know who did it. But not enough evidence to charge or convict with the little of his DNA on it. But they knew who it was and told me so. One cop told me who it was. I don’t know how to put this but let’s just say it wasn’t forgotten.
MWD
BRTH
I get the point that the uni system opening up late 70s has resulted in a more balanced view across the workplace and that the Govanites have burned their boats with the SFA and many others , my point albeit based on zero legal knowledge if given an option most courts will take the view of what they consider a “reputable ” outfit .. King will get this over the line for season book renewal , which if memory serves was late April for govan last year
Ideal scenario , hearts and sheep improve big time , govan crowds do walking away they go bust , splat totally out of control in say 2. Years, which gives us another 2 years of joy … will they be around to see 10IAR … must be 50/50 at best
Embdae know what time Still Game starts at The Hydro? Going tomorrow night, says 7.30 on ticket ….
Interesting posts tonight about the future of Sevco.
I know someone who worked with Stewart Robertson a wee while ago. From what I can gather, he is not a Hun and is not stupid. Yet he now finds himself at the edge of a dangerously crumbling edifice.
I presume his interview the other day was an attempt to clam things down, to give the illusion of control and planning, with a view to season ticket renewals. Wouldn’t even surprise me if they had inveigled the good graces of Frank deBoer to make supportive noises about becoming manager so they can create some sense of good feeling for the next wee while.
But, ultimately, if Park is out (or no longer putting in) then I think Robertson and the rest are just about out of options. From memory, no-one in that boardroom has serious money, apart from Park. The only other potential cash cow is MASH. If he is the only individual standing between TRFC and liquidation (and it would be liquidation, rather than administration I think), then surely the call will go out to him soon?
TGM
Like Spinal Tap drummers???
Spontaneous combustion is a bitch! :)
HH
EmeraldBee\o/ still proud to be an internet bampot on 15th February 2017 11:15 pm
I think you will find that when it came to the FTT I only gave my opinion on one of the judges — Ken Muir QC — who I used as standing legal counsel for quite a few years.
With respect, I think I fully understand the FTT decision, why it was made, what it says and, most importantly, what it doesn’t say.
No doubt there will be great dissection of all of this when the Supreme Verdict comes in, but in a nutshell the FTT HAS TO — REPEAT HAS TO — make a decision based on the submissions made to it by the counsel for those involved in the case.
In my humble submission, counsel for HMRC advanced a proposition which the FTT could not ignore or demur from once HMRC had advanced the argument that the loans from the trusts should be treated as real and that the trusts should not be regarded as a sham.
In that one move, HMRC shot themselves in the foot.
The thoughts of the judges (all three of them) on the quality of the evidence came in the opinion of Heidi Poon and the other two offered not a single word of criticism in her summation of the witnesses and their evidence. They simply said they were bound to find the way they did on the basis of the submissions made.
In the appeal court, HMRC adopted a wholly different argument and abandoned the argument that the court “should not” regard the loans and the trusts as a sham. Instead, they modified the argument to say that it was not necessary to find that the loans and the trusts were, de facto, a sham for HMRC to succeed.
There is a real difference in that position and to the one adopted before the FTT.
Further, I am aware that Lord Doherty has given a very significant explanation as to why the decisions of the FTT and the Court of Appeal reached different decisions and why the decisions had to be different given the change in arguments and the different functions of the two courts concerned.
DD
Its a mystery for Sherlock Holmes i reckon:)
Burn Baby Burn:)
Disco Inferno:)
HH
Just wondering if any of these esteemed gentlemen would care to provide an update on their previous statements:
http://forum.followfollow.com/archive/index.php/t-857555-p-2.html
MWD- I remember you posting from your hospital bed, i have had similar experience with prks with knives, went to court more Community Service on top of what they hadn’t served,an absolute joke and a total farce of a ‘system’.One of the clowns was in the middle of a deserved tanking, polis turned up, found out the story and said that would be the only justice we would get.He was right.FWIW, i socialise regularly with a few cops, and believe me, the ‘sentences’ these bawbags get, pisses them off too.Hope you are on the mend from recent stuff.HH
Yeah, and stooges from the legal profession will act dumb for their masters too, it has never been that clean.
BRTH,
you didnt happen to catch my post about the national portrait gallery and the “Prince Henry arrives in Rome ” exibit.
i only knew about this cos you posted about it sometime before,
Burn Baby Burn by Ireland’s Ash.
Great wee tune I havnae heard for years.
Away to play Free All Angels.
MWD,
did you know that Jim White and Charles Green have won a bafta for reenacting the “danny psoting from the hospital bed” scene ?
pullin your leg big fella, that night was truelly horrible as we watched your updates coming in.
glad your still here,
keep it lit.
St Stivs
Sorry only caught that now. Didn’t know about the exhibit.
Bed time folks ………….
DD – hope yer maw is still fighting on mate HH
St Stivd
Still regret doing that. Wouldn’t have happened if not for the mix of morphine and alcohol in my system.
MWD
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Games played
Size of points gap.
Size of goals difference gap.
Can we win the title by 38 points?
I have had my own altercations and run ins growing up in Scotland with supporters of the Scottish ascendancy in Lanarkshire, Glasgow and West Lothian. It continues to astound me of forehead why any Celtic supporter of my ilk would want to gloat and revel in any way shape or form whatsoever, of them’s being defeated through the mockery of cheating on the Scottish institutionalized corrupt football park. I will never forgive the current custodian PLC, nor any Celtic supporter, who with this once in a lifetime opportunity for complete and unadultarated obliteration actually paid to see these C***Ts since Feb 14th 2012.
oh and BTW Burgess Philby and McLean dont even have a look in on the current American presidency. The worlds on fire!
Mags
I have paid to watch my team beat the living shots oot them once. I have paid £30 quid to take my Bhoy to a Glasgow derby again but this time for the first time as he’s seen thistle a few times. I’m not going to watch Dtupid FC. I’m going to watch Celtic, Brendan’s Celtic with Broony and co hopefully beat Stupid FC.
There is a bit of me, a large bit that doesn’t want to entertain it but there is a bit a large bit that thinks that if I don’t entertain it I’m giving in to all the cheating and the PLC assistance to them. Yeah sounds silly but Celtic is my team and that joy I get when they win is just so pleasurable no matter who they play. I haven’t attended the last two home games due to res 12 shit anniying the duck out of me with PLC bawbagness. My Bhoy though wants to go to this game. So I’m going with him to make sure of his safe return. I don’t really ever enjoy the occasion. Never really have and likely never really will but a victory always helps.
I don’t need or want your forgiveness. Stupid FC will be around forever in some form or another no matter the action or inaction of our cowardice PLC.
I think your post has just made me realise why I should always support my team. Health allowing as of late it has been part reason why I have also not attended although in full likely hood I was so pissesd at Res 12 inaction as I perceive it I wasn’t of a mind to.
MWD
MoonbeamsWD on 16th February 2017 12:43 am
I understand where you are coming from and I will always try and support Celtic fiscally and charities also. However, funding thems either directly or indirectly no way.
Mags.
I will likely attend at home. But never away or at Hampdump.
I haven’t set foot in the Hunnery since 88.
Old or newco they will never survive again off a penny of mine.
MWD
MoonbeamsWD on 16th February 2017 12:51 am
Good mate! Glad to hear it. This is where their obliteration begins. This type of thinking. They are parasites. Dont give them any blood.
Reading of Sevco’s cashflow problems; If I was doing any sort of business with them I would be beginning to get nervous. I’d be looking for my money upfront. Especially given the antecedents of Glibby and Co.
I wonder if the unfortunates that were stung before have any idea of the persistent rumours of a lack of the readies at Sevco? There was 276 victims the last time.
I’m sure our Plc do.
I’m sure things like taxes and PAYE are all up to date.
It’s not like there is a bank ready to bail them out as in Minty’s time.
If there are any facepainters booked for any events at Ibrokes over the next few weeks don’t leave without your fee.
(They’ll swindle anyone. It’s in their DNA. It’s legitimised as entitlement/supremacy.)
The ‘Fit and Proper Person Test’ is there for a reason. How did Glibby pass? Hopefully those who said nothing and signed off on ‘Glibby’ won’t be dragged into any possible ‘fall-out.’ ;)
Nite All.
Classic
@BigDorinGoian: I still believe we can win the league this season! #GoingFor55 #WATP #RangersFamily https://t.co/otWDsthu3J
Clogher Celt
If our PLC hand over 8000 tix without payment up front then they fully deserve the hit on their balance sheets and bonus for crass stupidity.
I’ll have no sympathy for them but hope the shareholders call them out for losing the club money,
MWD
So a Bombers attacking Soo Africa
https://johnjamessite.com
Please be director of football at the stadium you played for dafty of Stupid FC.
MWD
Greenpinata,
Your post at 3.11 pm 15 Feb,
I think you have misinterpreted my intent. I am not an elitist and I do not care about grammar. My point was that it is important to be able to communicate your point clearly on a blog. It does not matter how you do it but your point should be clear, otherwise we end up with this situation. Clearly in my case I missed the mark as far as you are concerned. Disagree with what I write if you will, but please do not think that I grade posters on this blog according to the manner in which they express themselves. I regard myself as an ordinary Joe Blow and make no judgement on the grammar or language use of bloggers. I may disagree on content but that is all. It is also my right to hold a differing opinion on opinions expressed by others, but I never judge on the basis of method of expression.
I also make a distinction between what someone says on this blog and who they are. I know nothing about the latter and will not comment upon that.
In the case of BRTH I admire his eloquence and ease of expression but I do not necessarily agree with everything that he says.
Rebus
Well, it’s like this…..
As soon as the huns go oot of the same league as Cellic…..ah can see Brendan replacing Wenger….only saying…..
Brendan’s Celts will parade the treble roon Hundump…..then,….soon after, Malky McKay will be the new puppet @Jungle-Rune-Stones…..
Big Marko McGhee….the ‘only’ manager in Scottish fitba with, 2….that’s correct, 2 European ‘winners’ medals in his big / ginormus trophy cabinet.
PETEC – ninetoes – CSC
JFH – Yer MRS, Yerself and all who are close, are in our thoughts and prayers fella – YNWA.
Thoughts and Prayers for all Celts in need.
….off-oot….
Excellent-if occasionally chilling-read back on the late shift,folks.
Take a bow!
HH
Good morning friends froma damp and broken cluded East Kilbride
Reading back and idle boasts of removing Rangers shirts from washing lines and throwing in bins. Another claiming to burn every Rangers shirt he encounters.
Are we supposed to be proud of such heroics?
Two sides of the same coin?
Depressing stuff in 2017.