Celtic have been dragged into a former club’s scandal today by Scotland’s former best-selling daily newspaper, who have completely misrepresented issues surrounding the registration of Juninho.
The newspaper makes the astonishing and completely inaccurate claim that the “SPL have revealed they decided not to investigate Celtic’s EBT payment to Juninho”.
The SPL have investigated Celtic’s EBT payment to Juninho. They found Celtic acted absolutely in line with the rules and this week issued a statement confirming this. To tell people otherwise is recklessly inaccurate.
A front page statement proclaims:
“Hoops in clear because Juninho only received cash AFTER he left the club”
Utter nonsense. It’s a bit like saying:
“Hoops in clear because Juninho’s name begins with the letter J”
A true reflection would read:
“Hoops in clear because they discharged the registration and entire employment process of Juninho in a correct manner and no differently than the way every other SPL club has registered players”
When Juninho “received the cash” has nothing whatsoever to do with Celtic being “in the clear”. It is, frankly, an embarrassing attempt to pander to the paranoia of others and betrays a fundamental lack of knowledge.
The newspaper also dedicated all-but-one column of their back page, and part of an inside page, to the ‘story’ of how Celtic “didn’t end up in the dock”. Compare this to the coverage the same newspaper gave to the actual SPL statement on Juninho, released in an earlier attempt to dampen-down ill-informed paranoia, which received a tiny, 35-word, 1-inch back page note and a single column inside the paper.
Throughout recent weeks a basic misunderstanding of the legality of EBTs appears to have taken root in some minds. It is as though some mass psychological phenomenon is at play. Or maybe it’s just a deliberate attempt to confuse the easily confused?
EBTs are not against football, or specifically, player registration, rules. This is accepted as fact by anyone even vaguely familiar with the rules, yet we have some, who should know better, tell us that Rangers’ EBTs were recorded in their annual accounts, as though this is some defence against player registration charges, or that others should join them ‘in the dock’, because they used an EBT.
The matter in hand is not the use of EBTs, it’s about player registrations. You can pay players in EBTs, folding notes or Dutch tulip bulbs, as long as you register him correctly. And pay your tax.
Player registration rules are categorically clear, clubs must register all contracts with the SFA and SPL. All monies due in relation to football must appear on those contracts. Juninho’s contract was registered correctly.
On this issue, Celtic are exposed to the joint analysis of other 11 SPL clubs and the other 93 SFA clubs (counting both Ibrox based clubs), who control the rules and their scrutiny.
There are limits to what an employer can publicly reveal about a former employee’s personal financial details, but Celtic have revealed all facts concerning Juninho’s employment to the SFA and SPL.
Their conduct was investigated, was found to be absolutely and completely impeccable AND in line with SFA advice on player registration.
All I am wondering about is, should we be happy that those who should be planning for some serious headwinds are instead following a ridiculous wild goose chase?
I think so. That being the case, what are people trying to divert attention from? Hmmm.
Last week I met John Maguire, managing director of Celtic Development Pools. John’s been there for 30 years, the enthusiasm for youth player development is tangible when you listen to him talk. He’s at the coal face, raising money for the enormous youth development project which brings players like James Forrest into the club, and also polished Tony Watt into the exciting talent he is.
The ‘Pools predate my time but today’s fabulous harvest of young talent was made more possible by the Paradise Windfall, which now pays £15,000 each home game and has been the largest lottery in world football for years. Income from the Pools and Paradise Windfall generates around £1.5m each season.
The coaches at Lennoxtown (and most fans) know how important it is for Celtic’s youth scouting and development to be the very best it can be. It has to be world class. For the guys at the Pools office, the challenge is clear, fund this ambition.
To this end, this weekend the Development Pools launch TikPick. For £1 you can win a cash prize for predicting 10 results. It’s not a lot of money and none of it will go towards putting fuel in a £100k motor car. This is a grass-roots level investment in our future. Go take a look here.
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TootingTim
Aye, they suffer the same intimidation pro rata as they do from the MSM and football authorities which they also complain about.
PS
Narcissistic thugs: I followed that wee mini-debate and pictured you admiring yourself in the mirror before putting a brick through it :)) When in London, do as stereotypes do! :))
FFM
Rant away mi amigo.
We sort of have a problem, we all know what is happening,the internet bampots are indeed finding out the truth, the internet bampots are exposing them for what they are.
But, the only truth that is really being exposed to the masses, is what they allow to be exposed.
I posted earlier that nobody really took a blind bit of notice at the goings on at the bigotdome….untill the MSM brought it up.
When it comes to say the death of 96 innocent football supporters, the cover up is more intence, it’s taken 23 years for the truth to be exposed, very few, if any will be prosecuted, it’s too feckin late.
It will be the same with the huns, trust me on that.
I know how they work in scotland, been on the receiving end of how they work, both ways.
Sftb two great choices but the live version of celluloid heroes is the one to listen to. Hail hail hebcelt
I need to go to bed now.
God bless Timland
HH
KTF….it’s all we really have mi amigos.
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Why might the Game be Off..??
Summa
TET @ 23:54
Aye :(
Am trying to be philosphical about it. Folks what are religious are seeing it as summit intense, and they may well be right.
To ignore it would be foolish. Its not just a cliché to say we live in interesting times – we really do, and it’s unprecendented.
Where we all go from here is the key, which is why the money men are trying to tie the internet up in legal knots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq8wCxAfuRk&feature=colike
“People say music and politics don’t mix, or sports and politics don’t mix. That’s bullshit.” – Adam Clayton.
This week I will mostly be ranting about Hillsborough, Kelvin McKenzie, and the desperation of the Scottish printed media. Depending on who’s on (big old-school wink-smiley to petec), I may diverge into apocalyptic prophecy and masonic symbolism in The Simpsons.
I will append all my posts with a fucking great tune on the theme of Music and Politics.
Who’s with me!?!?
Black Boys On Mopeds http://youtu.be/n14lwdpYkAA
Off to bed- have 5s before catching the bus for Perth.
If I could sing I’d sing this
Jann Arden & Jackson Browne
or maybe this
Rick Danko
G’night CQN- 2:0 to the good guys tomorrow
tarrant,
Nice one, but raise you with this:
Bob Plant repenting his (or more so,Jimmy Page’s) dalliance with the satanists, and Alistair Crowlet’s “Do what thou wilt” philosophy. JP can see now how it has pervaded, and doesn’t like it. Even I can see it, and I’m an athiest. Look at his new music. It all focuses on fighting this anti-humanitarian thinking.
Sorry for deflecting you from your innocent post :)) But points worth making I reckon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiokMaodFkw
anyone seen the royal paps? :P
Tarrant,
PS, “I may diverge into apocalyptic prophecy and masonic symbolism in The Simpsons”
You mibbes don’t quite comprehend the workings of symbolism and how the masons use it?
sorry – naughty of me – please desist all discussions
Sigh.
I see Sally has expressed his “bafflement” at the SPL inaction against us re: Juninho. And for good measure he has once more stated that titles “will not be taken away” from the ex-club.
I have not been an advocate of Celtic making statements on this farago, but I do wonder if the club needs to put the facts firmly in the public domain.
The MSM are furiously muddying the waters here, and whilst this may not affect serene legal minds like Lord Nimmo, it is important that Celtic’s name is not widely besmirched by association with the disgraceful deeds of our erstwhile rivals.
Former Rangers shareholder Roddy Forsyth joins the glue sniffing fraternity.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rangers/9543866/Ally-McCoist-baffled-by-SPL-decision-not-to-investigate-Celtics-EBT-payment-to-Juninho.html
ItaliaBhoy
00:16 on
15 September, 2012
+++++
Someone should ask him what the SPL should do re the Juninho, erm, ‘case’. Upon his reply, Sally should be told not only the facts of that particular EBT, but also thanked for his input regarding what sort of punishment befits misuse of such a scheme for a given player.
And then informed that they are multiplying it by whatever factor der orkenkind employed – 50? 60? Whatever.
Nonsensical observations aside…
Celtic will be dragged into this further and further until such time that someone at the club has to come out and state the blinking obvious: that cheats cheat; sportsmen do not.
I pity the person who has to do that. Seriously, I do.
Steinreigns….,
classic,
question masons watch their obfuscation take centre stage
ItaliaBhoy
Aye, I think we’ll hear nowt from the PLC.
It makes sense if they are waiting for the right time to make a simple statement once the Sevco Zombie is buried once and for all.
Green and Moisty have been doing their best to drag us into their mess to make it an “old firm” spat.
So silence even now makes sense to me.
Time will tell….
I liked this bit: My reading of the situation is that the SPL have accepted that EBT because the money was paid to the player after he left the club
Aye, Sally, is that along the same lines as: who are these people?
I’m calling you out as a liar Sally. An utterly shameless liar.
FFM /TET
You’re both right, but what does seem to be happening is that the gap between the cover-up and its exposure is lessening, due I’m sure to the increased scrutiny from, pre-internet, bampots such as Paul Foot et al, and post-internet, the bampots inspired by Paul Foot et al, which is a much bigger cast. Yes, less funded, but equally motivated and through crowd-sourcing or whatever, able to access anonymously provided information (forwarded emails, PDFs) and use that to bolster their case.
TET, you are right that the huns’ downfall gained momentum once the MSM reported it; but, the downfall was going to happen anyway. Financially they were fucked five ways from Friday, and no amount of succulent lamb would change that – hence the change of bias regards Whyte, Motherwell-Born Billionaire to Monaco-based shyster. The MSM had no input into their descent into administration, and despite any amount of lobbying / doom-saying / misrepresentation, had no influence on the (new)Boche ending up in Div 3 of the SFL, where James Forrest advises us they currently sit third.
I would be a very happy bunny if no Tim ever bought the Record again. Except maybe on their last edition, for sentimental or eBay reasons. Back Page Exclusive: Lennon threatens to walk away as stingy Lawwell donates Champions League win bonus to Famine Memorial.
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/public-enemy/a-letter-to-the-ny-post.html
Not a video unfortunately, but a great riposte from a great band to a shitty paper that should have celebrated a great band from their city, instead of denigrating them to cater to a simple and bigoted readership.
dirtymac
A liar??
Who are you to call Moisty, King of the Laughs, joke a minute pie muncher, a liar.
I demand to know….the Scottish Public, demands to know.
Twinbhoy
00:11 on 15 September, 2012
anyone seen the royal paps? :P
There was a pic of a naked royal tit in last weeks papers but I believe there might be two in print sometime soon.
Fortune favour me bees,
I tend to arrive to games at Celtic park at the last minute parking in the car park behind the Celtic end. I have noticed on several occasions now a police van with 5 or 6 cops pulling up young individual Celtic fans in a threatening way. I have posted on the this site before and on another Celtic site and to my knowledge no response.
These young stragglers are being targeted by the same van every week and I would ask all Celtic fans to keep an eye out for this ( usually about 10 to 3 ).
tarrant
That rag has single-handedly ruined the careers of some of the best talents to come out of Scotland, but, to my amusement, only a minority.
It has an overbearing and misguided self-superiority, which even though I can identify it now, will still lead to its ultimate demise.
I laugh at it.
HH Amigo (ps, mind your p’s and q’s, strict lingo policy).
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire 00:23 on 15 September, 2012
Last post as I’m off home.
This is obviously an organized attempt to deflect from the issue at hand. There is no subtlety here – just blind panic. But Forsyth, more than any other journalist, had displayed his true colours over the past year.
He is a total fud and no better than any of his pals in the tabloids. Losing those shares has really got his back up.
Sadly for these blinded media types all their efforts are going to amount to sweet FA.
Glendalystonsils
:)) Am really struggling here. I hear a lot more tits than I want to, and see a lot less than I want to !
Luck Cody,
That’s hell of a good luck you’re having then. Well done pal.
paul67,
i dont know whether as some say you have the ear of our board
but i beg you if you do, tell them to come out and quash this
nonsense thats being spouted,its obvious what is going on but
we cannot let this one go, by staying silent or not challenging
these rags is allowing this creeping belief that we were as bad
gather momentum, it has to stop via legal recourse if need be,
by publicly challenging these scroats we can silence them.
FFM 0:13
This is going to be like the two ronnies sketch where I respond to the post you made two posts ago…
Innocent post – I’m Catholic reared and struggling to shake off aspects of the dogma. Innocent I’m not. But you know that. If you’re an atheist, surely Plant and Page’s flirtation with Aleister Crowley’s cringeworthy attention-seeking is irrelevant to any grown-up discussion. I love Zep, but all the Robert Johnson – Aleister Crowley – pact with the devil that JPJ didn;t sign – bullshit is just that…bullshit.
Me And The Devil – GS-H http://youtu.be/vMJIHCn6h9E
“You mibbes don’t quite comprehend the workings of symbolism and how the masons use it?”
You mibbes are right. Enlighten me.
twinbhoy
00:11 on
15 September, 2012
anyone seen the royal paps? :P
Just google “Mccoist and green” ;-)
tarrant
Crowley wasn’t attention seeking.
He was a high ranking mason. The high regard with which he was held is evident in our contemporary pop stars celebrating his “word”, of “do what thou wilt”.
Its not “bs” amigo. I’d tell you to investigate it, but its too disturbing.
Robert Plant is not in question here. But he is expressing regret and making amends. Trust me on that :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79K4R_Y9jFw
Tarrant @ 00:46
A thousand things I could link to, come on.
Try this excellent song. Watch the video carefully.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9i4znbwtQ
T.G.A.O.T.U.
The great architect of the universe = God
This is freemason litreature , a few choice words directed to the
panel that is looking into the double contracts ,
are there brothers on the board ?
oops i forgot to mention that was from A.(surrender no) johnstones last statement
full of mason words
Bed time !
Timabhouy
Aye, Scots. new is rife with it, but incredibly sore fholks just don’t get it.
FFM, fair enough, Crowley merits more attention -the attention-seeking was Page more than him. However…Crowley’s bag was Satanism. Freemasonry, whatever it is about, is not satanist, nor pagan.
Your later post…there’s a thousand things you could link to regarding masonic symbolism in The Simpsons? Really? I’m sure that’s not what you meant, but if you post me a link to a dollar bill or a character showing the V-sign, you’re going to have to work much harder.
I don’t want to pre-judge, and I’m about to go off and do a but more Crowley research, but I don’t want to retread a load of memes. You usually seem to have a bit of depth in your posts, so I’;m sure you’re beyond and above this level of shite where a character in a cartoon making a certain gesture with its fingers is an indicator of the Illuminati’s control of the media.
lhads,
I’m begining to believe, the hun story is now a cover\distracion from the real story.
The masonic conspiracy that allowed the death of 96 innocents go unpunished.
Broadsheets will now concentrate on the woe’s of an insignificant nonentity and obfuscate the biggest scandal in the sporting world.
Forget the hun they are dead, we must concentrate our efforts on exposing and demanding exsposure of how they got away with it for so long.
Of course we know, but there are still many who refuse to accept.
Every press sports blog needs to be inundated with demands for explanations on why\how the death of 96 innocents took 23 years to be exposed.
rant done but not over