After collecting one point from their previous five games, Livingston fans can scarcely believe the result and performance their side recorded against Celtic yesterday. A goal from a breakaway on 25 minutes was enough to shatter Celtic’s early fluency. For all the flattery achieved by pounding opponents at Celtic Park, there is a fragility about Ange Postecoglou’s side.
Andrew Shinnie nipped in front of Stephen Welsh before thrashing a shot high into the net. The central defender should have done better but it was an excellent finish from Shinnie. The move started when Celtic were exposed on the right as Livingston won possession in the middle of the field.
The way we setup, we are going to concede chances and goals on the counter; going behind should not have had the consequences that followed. Instead of provoking a clinical reaction, Celtic’s early assured touch deserted them.
James McCarthy started his first game since May and is clearly well off pace. Mikey Johnston came on for his first appearance of any sort since May, he also needs time before we can expect anything like his best.
While central mid took much of the focus, our wing play was no better. Jota was significantly less effective against Livingston than against Betis on Thursday, and Liel Abada’s devastating runs into the box just didn’t happen. The only real pass mark was for Joe Hart, who made an instinctive save that prevented the home side doubling their lead.
We won on nine consecutive visits to Livingston between 2001 and 2007 before an 11-year gap until the next visit. Since returning to the West Lothian venue in 2018, we have played five, drawn three and lost twice. I am not fond of blaming the pitch; we have ample access to artificial pitches to practice on. Be ready next time.
So what now for our league challenge? News from Ibrox that Motherwell took a point to limit the damage of the afternoon was a merciful relief. A four-point gap is bad enough but six points would feel daunting. We are still in the race largely due to the fact that our only genuine opponents are well below the form they enjoyed in the two previous seasons. Whoever sorts out their form first will win the title.
Lots to consider, Ange.
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CORKCELT on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:21 PM
I’m aware of that. And we got good money for him.
But for me losing Christie was more of a loss than losing Eduoard.
Sure we’d have lost him for nothing but we’d have dropped less points between summer January.
Very poor squad management over the past several years.
We’ve went from large and bloated to unbalanced, to thin in a 3 year spell.
Celtic Mac @ 4:12pm – Lol
Interesting and some quite depressing comments re Ange Postecoglou.
Last season was exceptional.
First team fell apart.
Only comparator seasons I can think of in my lifetime were 1977/78 and 1989/90.
Ange inherited a mess.
Time hasn’t been on his side since day one.
– Build the squad
– Get them physically fit
– Immerse them in your tactical framework
– Build a winning mentality
– Succeed in Europe
– Win the league
He needed to do month’s work in his first week, half a season’s work in the first month and, moving forward, 3-years work in a season …..
…. just to meet the extraordinary expectations of the job.
The hardest job in Scottish football.
The disappointment I get.
The stone cold dismissiveness towards him I don’t.
He’s our manager. He’s one of us.
Doesn’t he deserve better than to have support from some of the faithful pulled after 15 weeks?
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
We’re Not Half of Anything
19-1
We share a city AND NOTHING ELSE
ZIGGYDOC1 on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 3:55 PM
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Disappointed with yesterday’s result but something deeper worries me.
As painful as losing 10IAR was, the one crumb of comfort I had was that there would be a fresh start; a big reset.
We knew Lawwell was going and there was talk of a new, forward-thinking CEO; a DoF; sports scientists, data analysts; a new manager with a fresh coaching staff; a new head of recruitment etc and a structure that would resemble a modern club.
We are now in September and other than Ange for Lennon, we’ve not changed a thing and in fact, we’ve regressed. No head of recruitment to replace Hammond, no CEO, the same coaching staff, Ange calling out for sports scientists and patchy results on the pitch.
Yesterday, I heard some pundits talk about the head of the set-piece coaching team at Brentford. It sounds like another world. If we succeed on the pitch, it will be in spite of our infrastructure and not because of it.
AKBW1888 on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:36 PM
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SQUIRE DANAHER on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 3:14 PM
There was an episode in injury time yesterday near our defensive left hand corner. The opponent had the ball and was ushering it out for a throw.
Bitton shoved the man in the back and conceded an wholly unnecessary free kick.
==============================
Squire – when I saw him running towards the guy’s back (we were in the far-away end from it) I shouted “Don’t f@@@@n’ push him!!!”
Swiftly followed by “Awww furfuxake ya f@@@@n’ idiot!!!!”
I’ve stood up before for Bitton, largely because he looks like a big, chilled, languid, dope-smoking fiend – but you are bang-on – utterly brainless football.
Sending off against the new pretendy Huns was exactly the same – seen it coming a mile away.
He has some quality football in there – but that for me was the last straw – bloody stupid.
That said – we could have played for a week up there and still not scored.
Ange – let down by the players.
HH
BGFC
geebee1978 on 20th September 2021 4:38 pm
I agree totally, I see some trying to insinuate that being unhappy with the way the club is being run is the same as hoping the manager gets the sack. Absolute nonsense, doing nothing is not an option and that is what the board have done for the last 6mths.
Manager has my support, board absolutely does not.
GEEBEE1978 on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:38 PM
very good summation, exactly as it is.
While all the old foosty board remain in ownership and in place, true structural changes will not happen.
If anything, more gaps in the organisation are evident, they dont need plugged, they need improved on from what was in place before.
The parting of Dom for me is becoming an even bigger puzzle. The appointment of Nicolson, a board placeman for sure, but his CV and Linkedin is impressive, a legal eagle for sure, a range of degrees and qualifications from various universities, is he I earnt from Peter type, I dont see anything that says Moderniser.
The board dont want modernity, they want the status quo. They got it with 53,000 season books sold again.
They got any type of european qualification, thats nice, keeps them in 5 star jaunts at other peoples (us) expenses.
Football results, they dont seem to matter so much.
We’ve failed to score in 8 of the 29 domestic matches played in 2021. That’s almost 30 percent of matches.
That’s what happens when you keep taking punts on dross like Klimala and Bayo and continually sign players who aren’t ready for first team football until weeks down the line.
Our rebuild feels like a 2 to 3 year job.
I hope Ange will be the man to do it. I’ll feel more comfortable when I belive he is adequately supported.
Both Ange and the support will know around March next year whether he’ll get the following season.
“The Tory Board” – would that be the same kind of board that was in place when these events transpired?:
*The Empire Exhibition Trophy
*The Coronation Cup
* 7-1 League Cup
* LISBON EUROPEAN CUP
* MILAN EUROPEAN CUP FINAL
* 1st 9 in a row
* UEFA CUP FINAL
* 2nd 9 in a row
* The Invincibles
* Quadruple Treble
I know that not all our board vote Tory and anyway, what if they did, we are…
A CLUB OPEN TO ALL.
The mindset of some on here is that if you don’t vote SNPcult, you are a “TOARIE.” Well that is just plain wrong.
The SNPcult enabled Thatcher to overthrow Labour and voted with them many times at Westminster. They also joined them in government in Scotland. The SNPcult were always labelled THE TARTAN TORIES and for good reason. There is not, never has been, and never will be, a left-wing marker in SNP DNA – they con to win voters – voters who should know better.
ZIGGYDOC1 on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:46 PM
AKBW1888 on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:36 PM
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TIMMY7_NOTED on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:51 PM
I don’t want Ange sacked. I want him to be given the best possible chance to succeed. Sacking him and bringing in a new manager under this structure would be like cutting the branches but not pulling up the roots.
SAINT STIVS on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:53 PM
Nicholson may well be a very competent guy. However, I’d feel better if they replaced Lawwell with him immediately and said they’d had a ready-made replacement. The fact they headhunted McKay suggests the board didn’t really consider Nicholson a viable option so I don’t see why he should be now.
JHB on 20th September 2021 5:07 pm
Remember to update your spreadsheet tory troll.
When will we get the next update from the spreadsheet review? I’ll be disappointed if its not soon.
geebee1978 on 20th September 2021 5:11 pm
Agreed.
Paul67 – Anybody
Can someone please tell me who buys our footballers ???
I can only think of a Joe Hart that has improved us over the last couple of years
Turnbull is positive but probably because he has little competition
Kyogo has potential possibly Carter-vickers but early days
The jury is out on a few Abada, Jota, Starfelt, Juranovic,
And as for Ajeti Barkas FFS
I really don’t know what our strategy is it seems to be a scattergun approach
Or take anyone that will come (that could include the Manager !!)
We have no one responsible for sourcing the most important people at the club – football players
its a worry !!!!
67ECW
The make up demographics of “the board” are a concern.
They maybe Celtic supporters, but not in the same fashion as the majority of supporters.
5 star home and away experiences, freebies all round, chauffered here and there, private flight charters, after a defeat no concern about should i buy the next away ticket, if offered, not even being hidden away during covid restrictions, I thought their continued attendance at the matches was rubbing supporters noses in it.
Tories, rich men, unionists, millionaires and billionaires, they are as distant to the average supporters bus season ticket holder as Kelly and White were back in the 90s.
I am not “open to all” in blind support of the very rich owners.
You dont know your history at all, if it is our history.
Off the pitch Celtic are a shambles. Chaos. Rudderless. Free fall.
The words of that notorious Celtic and Lawwell hater Alison McConnell on PLZ Soccee.
Still the PLC plants on here will try to gaslight you.
Wakey, wakey. Our club is in the mire and it’s our useless Board that’s led us there. You really think those donkeys know the route out?
I forgot to mention, all while getting some sort of renumaration
JHB
I don’t accept open to all extends to Tories. I know plenty of good huns. I don’t know any good Tories.
PS I have only contempt for the Nats.
season tickets should be banned as they give a blank cheque to iffy executives.
seats, or the majority of them, should be removed, their a vast overreaction to Hillsborough disaster just ask Liverpool fans!
Hillsborough was a disaster, RIP the 96(now 97) souls, it was also a state sponsored set up, by Maggie, bad policing? and the corruption and horrible stink of the aftermath has been ruthlessly exploited to “tame” society’s hooligan elements who mainly congregated on football terraces, and now almost 3 decades later, we have a society were a worrying amount of society’s citizens are inclined to believe hook line and sinker what govts are saying to them through the corrupt beyond belief MSM.
sadly, there are a worrying amount of, govt susceptible citizens who sit in the now seated terraces in football stadiums, and Parkhead has more than its fair share of these citizens, as their non resistance and always bowing to Celtic’s executive leaders dictation, especially in the recent years of overwhelming executive collusion corruption and downright betrayal, and the overwhelming evidence of this is situated all over the internet and “NOT” on any MSM literature or lies.
Players are not what they used to be in lots of good and bad ways.
Stadiums are not what they used to be in lots of good and bad ways.
Executives are not what they used to be in lots of good and bad ways.
Fans are not what they used to be in lots of good and bad ways.
Players are changed regularly.
Stadium has been vastly changed, to a soul sucking degree imho.
Executives have been changed for the worse since, and including McCann imho.
Fans have become mollycoddled and their inclination to stand their ground has been removed – intentionally.
Although ManUtd fans will take their club “back” from its unaccountable offshore tax dodging owners as they haven’t allowed their working class origins to be severed by shifty sharp suited fakes, maybe there’s a lesson in there?
was removing working class, socialist, left/right wing elements from gathering on football terraces, strengthening community spirit, and formulating ideas like how to sack a board, or raising monies for oppressed communities, was the removal of these terraced gathering points among the first steps on the road to “The Great Reset” and will medicine passports lead to the closure of most football clubs, like how the lockdown has hugely contributed to the demise of Derby County FC?
when Paul 67 famously said in one of his recent articles, or was it last year? when he said….
“Things are going to get a lot worse”
what did Paul 67 really mean when he said that?
Hmmmmm.
CORKCELT on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 4:21 PM
Christie was out of contract in December, he wasn’t signing a new one so best case scenario we would have had him for 3 months, & lost his selling fee.
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Letting Ryan Christie go caused it yesterday
Oh my giddy Aunt. What bit of refusing to sign a new contract is it that Celtic supporters don’t understand?
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS
There have been suggestions on Celtic fans’ websites that agents are punting players and this seems to be our main form of scouting.
Unbelievable if true.
After a poor defeat , a good selection of reasons / excuses on the blog …. Yesterday it was just a set of changes too far so after 20 mins it was like a team of strangers ….
We have actually played worse at Livi … we’ll just need to keep the heid … the usual suspects on here spreading fear uncertainty and doubt (fud) principle….
SAINT STIVS on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 5:24 PM
‘Tories, rich men, unionists, millionaires and billionaires,’
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So when exactly did it become a necessary condition of being a Celtic supporter that you had to support Scotland leaving the UK?
Btw Ronnie Simpson was a Tory.
Read back,lots of opinions,some I agree with,some I don’t.
I was confident we would win yesterday,for the first 20 odd minutes I thought we were good,only a matter of time,plus as I was 2 rows from the goal we were attacking,some of Rogics touches were exceptional.
At that point,Holt was booked and the other midfielder also booked, effectively this made them bulletproof as no chance of another yellow,prior to.that the RB was booked after 3 minutes,so had Jota played him correctly,he too was on.a tightrope.
The opposite happened,every tackle was latish,ankle tapping etc.the result being we lost our fluency,then a goal.and apparently heart also.
If I recall Turnbull.lost the ball.leading to.the goal,although Welsh was poor.
I had read an interview with Ange prior to the game where he was considering main factors those being Player availability,the Park,and an away crowd to contend with.What.???
does no one brief him what to expect.
Did you notice that our Consultant (Coaches Da ,Copyright BSR ) was at the Dundee Derby,so.not sure the value add here.
Not with hindsight but the 2 Ex Sheffield guys could have been worth a run as a bit of muscle was required.
Not yet suicidal.
HH.
pick a name, any name, read their history, the societies they were involved in, labour movements, irish home rule and forrestery leagues, catholic associations , leaders of men, and progressive in all their undertakings, be that their own businesses, their football club, professionalism, setting up the league or indeed their political views.
The first patrons CATHOLIC and IRISH for sure.
https://www.thecelticwiki.com/about-celtic/celtic-board/celtic-committee/
Brendan Sweeneys early years book, has two excellent observations, busting a couple of myths,
One , Brother Walfrid would refer to the team as his “boys” not the kelts, but “keltic” and his keltic boys”.
Carried on from his school work at sacred heart, were he taught “the boys”, several becoming our first committe and players, his “bhoys” (i assume still said with a sligo and/or gaelteacht brogue).
Having not seen the players or the committee in a number of years he met them in london returning from european tour
“I dont recognise many, but as long as they are my bhoys wearing the green and playing at our ground they are the keltic”.
I find it interesting that “bhoys” stuck, but people forgot the origin.
Next,
Brendan burst the myth that Brother Walfrid choose Celtic as a bridge between the scots and the irish founders, as all comment from the time, talks about establishment of an Irish Catholic team, akin to 40 others in Scotland, using harp and shamrock and hibernians even an Emmett, and to feed children via the SVDP society,
He toyed with Columba, surely a bigger bridge if you wanted to Scottify (my word) the origins.
As a further point, Non Catholics did play for the team, maybe from season 3 onwards, not many, but there was not a sectarian make up of it, in turn though, it was felt that established teams, Renton being the first, gave up on signing local catholics as they would go to celtic anyways.
The press of the time pre war , continually refers to the Catholic club, the Irishmen, even a foreign team playing in scotland.
Not a tory in sight though.
VALE BHOY on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 5:57 PM
Yep no surprise – I was hoping there was a more “sensible” theory !!
but your theory is probably nearer the mark
67ECW
PETERLATCHFORDSBELLY on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 5:37 PM
The fact that you don’t know any good Tories is not a reflection on the Tories
I know plenty Nurse’s Doctors, Care workers, even my binman my postman
You need to get out a bit more
There is good and bad in every demographic
67ECW
JHB
I totally agree with your opinion of the SNP, Fishlips has not got a scubie doo.
When pressed about if Scotland break away from the UK & wave bye-bye to
£10,000,000,000 ten thousand million pounds of the so called “Barnet Formula”?
She could not answer that, along with how is she going to handle Scotland’s
Debt, which is probably £30,000,000,000 thirty billion pounds by now ? She
could not answer that question either. Nor could she answer the question
about how she will deal with Scotland’s GDP ? (Gross Domestic Products)
Silence. Her Credibility has been shot down in flames, the Alex Salmond
Scandel was a complete c*ck up as far as Fishlips was concerned waisting
£1,000,000 UK Tax payers money, on a case that even the CPS or AKA the
Procurator Fascicle in Scotland advised her not to proceed with the Case
to which Fishlips replied, nah it’s ok I’m a Solicitor I know what I’m doing.
Yeah to your past Mentor/Roll Model who introduced Fishlips into Politics
& Being a leader, to which Fishlips repaid Alex Salmond by stabbing him
in the back (Yee Too Brutus) & papping him under their Fancy Yellow
Painted Vote For The SNP Election/Polling For Votes Coach. When Fishlips
was pressed @ an Inquiry into said Debacle Escapade she replied no
fewer than 50 times, nah I don’t recall & can’t remember said recent
matter. & also Fishlips does not take note of minutes, @ important
Meetings, which arise with her position in Politics, she is not fit & proper,
& she broke the Ministerial Code of Conduct, her state of past affairs
are in acomplete disarray, worse than a Dog’s Dinner-bowl after being
used. & Fishlips comes out on the TV saying that I would like to congratulate
Sevco, in winning the SPL in Season 2020/21 Yeah what about the
Acknowledgement of Celtic Unbroken History FC, winning the SPL nine
years in a row before then? Silence. Nah I will never vote for the SNP
(Sunday Night @ The Palladium ) again, that’s for sure. Sunday Night
@ The Palladium, more like Comedy Night @ The Palladium as far as
the SNP are concerned, & you are also right, the SNP are hypocrites,
always criticizing the Tories, yet copying the exact same policies, &
Indoctrinating their followers, to go out & claim credit, for the Tories
policies, copying everything the Tories do, was done by them 1st,
yeah what a load of p*sh, not only are the SNP Copycats, they are also
Backstabers as well, by constantly slagging off the Tories behind their
back, & yet Fishlips went crawling to Number Ten Downing Street,
chapping the Door & asking Boris for half a billion pounds (£500,000,000)
more, on top of the Barnet Formula, Plus the SNP got another twenty
billion pounds, for the Covid pandemic as well. So where is all this extra
money going into? Yeah probably into the SNP’s hidden overseas Bank A/c’s.
In-fact Fishlips is now known a “Oliver Twist” by Westminster, Fishlips is
certainly on the “Fiddle” please Boris can I have some more.
Most of the Scottish people who vote for Fishlips & Co, should be careful
for what they are wishing for. The SNP will lead them down the wrong path,
that is for sure, their position as far as Scotland’s current affairs is concerned,
is a future disaster/catastrophy waiting to happen, box clever everyone, & don’t
be easley misled, or so nieve.
ERNIE LYNCH on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 6:04 PM
SAINT STIVS on 20TH SEPTEMBER 2021 5:24 PM
‘Tories, rich men, unionists, millionaires and billionaires,’
####
So when exactly did it become a necessary condition of being a Celtic supporter that you had to support Scotland leaving the UK?
Btw Ronnie Simpson was a Tory.
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Scottish Nationalism is not a condition of being a celtic supporter, that is just a childish summation from you to pigeon hole what you dont like is happening.
Like the rest of the voting population, over a period of lets say 30 years, the demographic of voting has changed, maybe higher within the celtic support and dare i say catholic voters.
It is not an exclusive thing for celtic supporters, it reflects society in general.
I never met an openly tory voting celtic supporter in my lifetime of supporting, almost everything else at different times, but never met a tory one , i personally havnt met any of the current borad or liam fox.
but you know all this anyways.
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Ronnies conservatism was of its time, and location, being based in corstorphine , and a local council elective, but even so, what is that got to do with how celtic supporters might vote today ?
Here Brian, I hear your a tory now ?
well aye, having wrote the book on our history i realised i should be voting the same way as faither might have done.
ok, makes sense.
pitchforks at the ready
Guys,
What is a rich man. Probably anyone living in a house valued >£250,000., or if quarter of a million if it sounds more posh. Or even in receipt of a final salary pension.
Have you seen the main car park on match day. Monaco would be proud of the display of wealth. Private reg plates worth more that most folk earn in a year.
There is absolutely no doubt we have Tories amongst us. The Tories may be of the Unionist or the Tartan variety. Does it really matter.?
Bearing the amount of “rich” people on here, remember:- It is easier to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
When your relaxing with your vintage Malt in suburbia, remember that and stop the hypocrisy.
HH.
Any shareholders had a strange call recently?
I am trying to retire on less money by doing one of those “sponsor a hardship story” charity things.
I have been able to sponsor someone called “eric” who resides it seems in one of the most deprived areas of glasgow, a certain 95 kerrydale street.
For 640 pound per annum, i get to keep him fed and watered.
what about the non(aye) Tories who wear kilts and claim £200+k in expenses over and above their vast always increasing pay packets?
Don’t get some of negativity around Ange. Agree wholeheartedly with Back to Basics post above at 4:35pm.