Fulfilling potential after a move

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One of the things you hope for when a player leaves for a richer league is that they perform well.  It reflects on whatever value you will get the next time someone leaves.  Joe Ledley has gotten off to a flier with Crystal Palace, although there is still a long way to go there, but our two big summer sales are finding it tough.

Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich.  His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league.  Norwich other two strikers have yet to get off the blocks.

Bizarrely, Norwich are flooded with expensive strikers but their fans will bemoan the fact that they don’t have a goal-scorer, which Hooper was at Celtic and van Wolfswinkel was at Utrecht, where he scored a hat-trick against Celtic, and at Sporting.  There is a good chance they will be relegated as a consequence, which will probably have them back on the hunt for a Leigh Griffiths-type striker.

Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time.  He was a solid performer for Southampton before injury side-lined him for two months.  Now back, he has a seat alongside Jos Hooiveld on the bench, due to the form of Jack Cork, one of Southampton’s many current stars.

Hooper and Wanyama were among the stars of the Celtic team last season but I suspect their new clubs’ fans are wondering what all the fuss is about.  Form is fickle.  It’s hard to tell when a career is about to turn all Liam Miller on a bright young prospect (and let’s be honest, Miller was every bit as lauded here as Hooper or Wanyama), or what consequences the new club, the move, or other distractions are having on performance.

There are also a couple of ex-Celtic goalkeepers doing a star turn in the FA Premier League, David Marshall at Cardiff and Artur Boruc at Southampon.  After dazzling in his early months Marshall sipped well down the pecking order at Celtic, who eventually offloaded him.  He was replaced as first choice by Boruc, who could claim to be the top rated keeper in Europe 8 years ago but completely lost ‘it’, before finding it again, recently.

My prediction is that Hooper, Wanyama, Balde, Boerrigter and Pukki will not fulfil their potential at their current clubs, although I considered Wanyama’s place on the list for a while.  This does not make them bad players, ‘it’ just doesn’t always happen when it should. By contrast, some players look born to play for Celtic, including Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.

Really enjoyed reading the questions to and comments about Tommy Gemmell yesterday, as did Tommy, who spent the afternoon reading CQN and was “delighted” at the response.  He’s not got a login yet but we’ll get him sorted and do a live event on the blog after we have the book out of the way.

I’m attending a meeting next Wednesday with Supporters’ Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor.  Let me know if there are any questions you’d like raised.

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  1. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Robert88.

     

    A better tv deal vs champions league football. It’s a difficult choice.

  2. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Ianbhoy929.

     

    That’s unacceptable treatment.

     

    Did celtic move the game?

  3. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    IanBhoy929

     

     

    premier inn City Centre £121

     

     

    Is that for the full hotel?

     

     

    Katanga

  4. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Pfayr.

     

    What do you reckon is different now apart from the winning that’s driving them away?

  5. The Honest Mistake loves being first

     

     

    I said that tongue in cheek! there is no reason, except maybe the increased competition and the crowds would definetly surge upwards.

     

     

    however i’d happily have Europe either Champs league or Europa league soon to be merged with champs league over a few old firm games, never experienced one myself, but don’t feel the tag has done us any good or the bile that comes with it is worth it

  6. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Robert88.

     

    If we can develop a team that can grow in the cl over the next few seasons then I’ll be made up.

  7. I asked PL on the opening day of the season if we were going to buy quality and add it to our strongest squad , he said in an ideal world that’s what should happen , but some players make it clear their intentions to move and some are moved if the money is right I only got to speak with for about 5 / 10 minutes but came across as a very nice guy .

  8. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Mongolian Bhoy.

     

    It’s not brewsters millions. The aim is not to lose money.

  9. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    The honest mistake

     

     

    Lack of support from CFC for the fans and against open SFA cheating

     

     

    Crap football and hoarding money rather than spending it on the team

     

     

    Enlightened times have highlighted the problems …..they have also highlighted the fact that we are acquiescing and not tackling the problems

  10. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Twists n turns.

     

    I can understand that argument if it was a discussion a bout tesco but I don’t think we’re talking about customers, we’re talking about celtic supporters.

  11. The honest mistake

     

     

    I think we would all be made up if that were the case, but I’d be surprised if Van Dijk, Foster, Lustig to name but 3, will be there for ” the next few seasons”. Therein lies part of the problem.

  12. cliftonville celt from belfast praying for Oscar the wee legend on

    Jimmy Jones a true Legend

     

     

    RIP

     

     

    Sad day as our last links to the great Belfast Celtic slowly slip away

  13. The Honest Mistake loves being first

     

     

    That’s the main thing, the league and dare i say cups we’ll be going for and be in finals etc.

     

     

    Champs league is the big one, however we are the minnows and any progress should be built upon, the problem we have is that we cant hold onto players to continue to progress and i think that will always be our struggle building a team, we will find new players to replace the Wanyamas, hoopers etc, whether they gel and work for qualifiers and then group stages is the next thing.

  14. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Pfayr.

     

    Sounds like the nineties to me but remember that we’ve won. It’s a strange time to quit.

  15. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Twisty

     

     

    Correct

     

     

    Treat fans like customers ….they become customers

     

     

    It’s amazing how quickly and easily people can find alternative interests

     

     

     

    That’s not to mention those who have ST and don’t go anyway

  16. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Twists n turns.

     

    One things for sure, they won’t hang around if we can’t convince pfayr’s pals and the rest of the departing that they are making the wrong choice. The club is the fans.

  17. twists n turns

     

     

    But will they renew if Sevco come back or if and when the club offer the 3 game match package for the champs league?

     

     

    Fans can be very fickle!

  18. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    The Honest Mistake loves being first

     

     

    pfayr’s pals

     

     

    Name them

     

     

    Love

  19. Specially for CowieBhoy

     

     

    “CQteN Dream Team”

     

     

    Now is your chance to select your CQteN dream from the last decade

     

     

    Rules are very simple:

     

     

    Select 11 players from the list below, forming either a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 formation

     

     

    So you will need:

     

     

    1 goalkeeper

     

    2 full backs

     

    2 centre backs

     

    3 or 4 midfielders

     

    2 or 3 forwards

     

     

    and of course….

     

     

    1 manager.

     

     

    Each player on the list below has made at least 10 starting appearances from July 2004 to date during the CQteN decade.

     

     

    So no Henrik, then!

     

     

    When you are selecting the players, you should ideally base your selection on their performances during the CQteN decade, but then again that is your choice.

     

     

    Send your selection to us by email to doccqten@gmail.com with your CQN blog name (if you do not have one, then you need to get thinking as well)

     

     

    Anybody can enter: bloggers, lurkers, friends and family, but you can only enter ONCE.

     

     

    The closing date for entries is 3pm Sunday 9th March 2014

     

     

    The CQteN dream team will be announced at the CQteN night on Friday 14th March and there will be a couple of prizes for the closest teams selected to the winning team.

     

     

    Over the coming weeks, to assist you in your selection, we will select a category and list the players relevant appearances and goals. So watch out for these on CQN.

     

     

    Good luck and get selecting.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    CRC

     

    doccqten@gmail.com

     

     

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    Goalkeepers

     

     

    Artur Boruc

     

     

    David Marshall

     

     

    Fraser Forster

     

     

    Lukasz Zaluska

     

     

    Mark Brown

     

     

    Rab Douglas

     

     

    ————————————–

     

    Full Backs

     

     

    Adam Matthews

     

     

    Andreas Hinkel

     

     

    Cha Du-Ri

     

     

    Charlie Mulgrew

     

     

    Daniel Fox

     

     

    Darnell Fisher

     

     

    Edson Braafheid

     

     

    Emilio Izaguirre

     

     

    Jackie McNamara

     

     

    Lee Naylor

     

     

    Mark Wilson

     

     

    Mikael Lustig

     

     

    Mo Camara

     

     

    Paul Caddis

     

     

    Paul Telfer

     

    Ulrik Laursen

     

     

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    Centre Backs

     

     

    Bobo Balde

     

     

    Daniel Majstorovic

     

    Darren O’Dea

     

     

    Efe Ambrose

     

     

    Gary Caldwell

     

     

    Glenn Loovens

     

     

    John Kennedy

     

     

    Joos Valgaeren

     

     

    Josh Thompson

     

     

    Kelvin Wilson

     

     

    Stanislav Varga

     

     

    Stephen McManus

     

     

    Steven Pressley

     

     

    Thomas Rogne

     

     

    Virgil van Dijk

     

     

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    Midfielders

     

     

    Aiden McGeady

     

     

    Alan Thompson

     

     

    Baram Kayal

     

     

    Barry Robson

     

     

    Didier Agathe

     

     

    Evander Sno

     

     

    Efrain Juarez

     

     

    Jiri Jarosik

     

     

    Joe Ledley

     

     

    Juninho Paulista

     

     

    Kris Commons

     

     

    Landry N’Guemo

     

     

    Marc Crosas

     

     

    Massimo Donati

     

     

    Neil Lennon

     

     

    Niall McGinn

     

     

    Pat McCourt

     

     

    Paul Hartley

     

     

    Ross Wallace

     

     

    Roy Keane

     

     

    Scott Brown

     

     

    Shaun Maloney

     

     

    Shunsuke Nakamura

     

     

    Stephen Pearson

     

     

    Stiliyan Petrov

     

     

    Sung-Yong Ki

     

     

    Thomas Gravesen

     

     

    Victor Wanyama

     

     

    Zheng Zhi

     

     

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    Forwards

     

     

    Anthony Stokes

     

     

    Chris Sutton

     

    Craig Beattie

     

     

    Craig Bellamy

     

     

    Derek Riordan

     

     

    Gary Hooper

     

     

    Georgios Samaras

     

     

    Henri Camara

     

     

    James Forrest

     

     

    Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink

     

     

    John Hartson

     

     

    Kenny Miller

     

     

    Lassad Nouioui

     

     

    Maciej Zurawski

     

     

    Marc-Antoine Fortune

     

     

    Robbie Keane

     

     

    Scott McDonald

     

     

    Teemu Pukki

     

     

    Tony Watt

     

     

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    Managers

     

     

    Neil Lennon

     

     

    Tony Mowbray

     

     

    Gordon Strachan

     

     

    Martin O’Neill

  20. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Twists n turns,

     

    We’re all celtic customers faithful through and through.

  21. If I am in a competition and I become aware of one of my fellow competitors cheating I am unlikely not to say something to the judges or the authorities and anyone else whose ear I can grab.. This is normal. The SILENCE from Celtic is abnormal. Can someone explain ? and please I’ve heard the one before about “Don’t interrupt your competition when they are in the process of harming themselves” Tired of that and it doesn’t wash.

  22. The Spirit Of Athur LEE

     

    He stopped and spoke to me , he could’ve just strolled on by

     

     

    Or scrolled on by like most on here lol , I appreciated it anyway

  23. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Why do you think they are hoarding money ? Because they expect to take a hit. They will then rebrand it to a new customer base and improve the domestic deal.

     

     

    Celtic are not supporting the Celtic supporters.

     

     

    In many ways lest we forget.

     

     

    HH

  24. The honest mistake/ Robert

     

     

    I’ve no doubt the ground will still sell out for CL matches, but if the current feeling of apathy amongst a number of supporters may impact on our ability to generate the revenue necessary to stay competitive. 10,000 missing customers is about £5m in lost revenue. That impacts spending, which impacts our aspirations. Vicious circle really.

  25. The Spirit of Arthur Lee on

    marspapa

     

     

    You asked PL about buying quality and he answered that if the price is right we will sell

     

     

    Sounds right mucker

     

     

    take care

  26. The Honest Mistake loves being first on

    Mungolian Bhoy.

     

    Tell the judges or authorities.

     

    Ha. That’s a good one.

  27. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Marspapa

     

     

    PL gives a decent impression to most who meet him

     

     

    Never met him …but …I believe he is working to orders from on high

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