One of the things you hope for when a player leaves for a richer league is that they perform well. It reflects on whatever value you will get the next time someone leaves. Joe Ledley has gotten off to a flier with Crystal Palace, although there is still a long way to go there, but our two big summer sales are finding it tough.
Gary Hooper hadn’t scored in his last nine starts for Norwich. His season tally stands at five league goals and two assists, which is still four goals more than Ricky van Wolfswinkel, who cost more than twice Hooper’s price but has scored only once in the league. Norwich other two strikers have yet to get off the blocks.
Bizarrely, Norwich are flooded with expensive strikers but their fans will bemoan the fact that they don’t have a goal-scorer, which Hooper was at Celtic and van Wolfswinkel was at Utrecht, where he scored a hat-trick against Celtic, and at Sporting. There is a good chance they will be relegated as a consequence, which will probably have them back on the hunt for a Leigh Griffiths-type striker.
Gary had his dips in form at Celtic, which included a meagre last four months of his final season, Cup Final apart, but Victor Wanyama is one of the best central midfielders we have seen at Celtic in a considerable time. He was a solid performer for Southampton before injury side-lined him for two months. Now back, he has a seat alongside Jos Hooiveld on the bench, due to the form of Jack Cork, one of Southampton’s many current stars.
Hooper and Wanyama were among the stars of the Celtic team last season but I suspect their new clubs’ fans are wondering what all the fuss is about. Form is fickle. It’s hard to tell when a career is about to turn all Liam Miller on a bright young prospect (and let’s be honest, Miller was every bit as lauded here as Hooper or Wanyama), or what consequences the new club, the move, or other distractions are having on performance.
There are also a couple of ex-Celtic goalkeepers doing a star turn in the FA Premier League, David Marshall at Cardiff and Artur Boruc at Southampon. After dazzling in his early months Marshall sipped well down the pecking order at Celtic, who eventually offloaded him. He was replaced as first choice by Boruc, who could claim to be the top rated keeper in Europe 8 years ago but completely lost ‘it’, before finding it again, recently.
My prediction is that Hooper, Wanyama, Balde, Boerrigter and Pukki will not fulfil their potential at their current clubs, although I considered Wanyama’s place on the list for a while. This does not make them bad players, ‘it’ just doesn’t always happen when it should. By contrast, some players look born to play for Celtic, including Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.
Really enjoyed reading the questions to and comments about Tommy Gemmell yesterday, as did Tommy, who spent the afternoon reading CQN and was “delighted” at the response. He’s not got a login yet but we’ll get him sorted and do a live event on the blog after we have the book out of the way.
I’m attending a meeting next Wednesday with Supporters’ Liaison Officer, John Paul Taylor. Let me know if there are any questions you’d like raised.
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Auldheid
stop sticking up for pl,
you told us on this forum that jpt got the job because uefa said we needed a liason officer…
blantyrekev told us every department is headed up by an accountant..
the buck stops at the ceo, if a civil servant errs its the mp who has to go,
the buck starts and stops at the ceo…
he makes the bucks its about time he earned them by standing up for Celtic fans not celtic plc…
and don’t give me your I know whats going on in the background stuff…
its been going on in the bsckground for too long now…
tonydonnelly67
20:36 on
13 February, 2014
The simple fact is that if JPT is going to be successful in building a mechanism where relationships improve a lot of group and individual agendas will need to be set aside but on all sides.
The whole tone of communication has to change on all sides.
BadaBing
Will do. I’m your project!
HH jamesgang
oldtim67
It’s hard to believe that you are losing weight and your suit’s are to big
Love
******CQteN Dream Team******
Looking at the stats for the defenders tonight
First the full backs
Appearances Goals
Full Back Defence Adam Matthews (D) 82 4
Full Back Defence Andreas Hinkel (D) 101 1
Full Back Defence Cha Du-Ri (D) 35 2
Full Back Defence Charlie Mulgrew (D) 144 25
Full Back Defence Daniel Fox (D) 22 0
Full Back Defence Darnell Fisher (D) 10 0
Full Back Defence Edson Braafheid (D) 11 0
Full Back Defence Emilio Izaguirre (D) 132 1
Full Back Defence Jackie McNamara (D) 44 1
Full Back Defence Lee Naylor (D) 134 3
Full Back Defence Mark Wilson (D) 116 3
Full Back Defence Mikael Lustig (D) 57 5
Full Back Defence Mo Camara (D) 24 0
Full Back Defence Paul Caddis (D) 10 0
Full Back Defence Paul Telfer (D) 71 1
Full Back Defence Ulrik Laursen (D) 15 0
Remember these are the starting appearances (Excluding sub appearances) and goals scored during the decade of CQteN
HH
CRC
and now the centre backs
Appearances Goals
Centre Back Defence Bobo Balde (D) 93 4
Centre Back Defence Daniel Majstorovic (D) 61 2
Centre Back Defence Darren O’Dea (D) 49 6
Centre Back Defence Efe Ambrose (D) 73 5
Centre Back Defence Gary Caldwell (D) 147 7
Centre Back Defence Glenn Loovens (D) 84 9
Centre Back Defence John Kennedy (D) 14 0
Centre Back Defence Joos Valgaeren (D) 25 0
Centre Back Defence Josh Thompson (D) 19 3
Centre Back Defence Kelvin Wilson (D) 72 0
Centre Back Defence Stanislav Varga (D) 57 7
Centre Back Defence Stephen McManus (D) 195 20
Centre Back Defence Steven Pressley (D) 24 2
Centre Back Defence Thomas Rogne (D) 54 3
Centre Back Defence Virgil van Dijk (D) 31 4
CRC
Change A Matthews to minutes
Celtic
As there is likely to be a fall in numbers at CP because there is only one competition that we are still in. And we lead that by twenty something points. It would be an error to believe this condition to be the ONLY reason. I’m not talking about the missing blue team. I’m talking about your SILENCE for two years. And, your silence towards your own fans. What’s going on ?
ohits
20:48 on 13 February, 2014
TD67
We are all Celtic supporters and therefore we should RESPECT each others opinions , thats a word you use on a regular basis OPINIONS and it should be RESPECTED .
When 200 Celtic supporters take the bother to get off there bums and go to a open meeting to discuss the problems we have at the club at the moment then in my opinion they deserve our RESPECT .
Ya crabbit auld get.
HH
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I don’t care how many they get at any of there meetings, it is, or they are of no interest to me, now I will say this one more time and one more time only, my problem is that they say they are talking for Celtic Supporters, all I’m saying is they don’t talk for me, now if me telling people to stop saying they are talking for me is being crabbit, then your right that would make me crabbit, on your opinion that is.
HH
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
20:50 on
13 February, 2014
I know why the post was created but that does not mean it is not an opportunity to change what has gone before.
As regards PL, what I said to you about the fragmented communication policy of the club I said to him face to face.
It is a policy that serves neither PL or Celtic or the support and the opportunity now arises to change it or I imagine JPT would walk.
I would.
neganon2
19:22 on 13 February, 2014
Why not…..yeh, lets play right into their hands…..they would love Celtic to enter a debate with them on how we are treated…….know what, they’ve been treating Celtic like this for over 100 years, …..BUT WE HAD THE LAST LAUGH, AS THEY EXPIRED INTO OBLIVION….OUR DAY ‘CAME’, AND THEY’RE CLUB ‘WENT’……..the happiest day of my football life….!!!!
auldheid
20:51 on 13 February, 2014
tonydonnelly67
20:36 on
13 February, 2014
The simple fact is that if JPT is going to be successful in building a mechanism where relationships improve a lot of group and individual agendas will need to be set aside but on all sides.
The whole tone of communication has to change on all sides.
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Totally agree, I have spoken to the man, he seems a heads up guy.
TD67
I know they dont talk for you but as Celtic supporters they are still allowed there opinion and it should be treated with respect .
HH
Auldheid,
that is the question to ask JP next week then…or Paul could ask it…
too many fans are sick being lied to by msm we don’t need to take it from our representatives.i.e the board..
So, Hertz are being bought for £2.5m, and oldco were sold for £1 ……. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha…….incidentally, i’m going to sell my house for £1 next week…..wonder what the taxman etc will say about that…….hahahahahahaha
Burghbhoy
Thanks mate.
Completely agree. Now is the time. No more sitting politely at the back of the bus.
FFS- its the reds under the beds, its the students, its the unions, its anyone with more than one O level, its the CST that’s been infiltrated by the KGB, it JF who’s really a Russian spy- they are all out to get us.
By the way the only people I have known that are frightened of educated Tims are dobbers- that was until the paranoidantiintelligence CSC started posting
BT
The crowds at CP are falling
I know many diehard CFC fans who have had enough ….not going to renew their STs
Some eejits will give the stock response … They’ll not be missed …. Utter bollox
CFC has become a commercial entity …no connection with the fans ….money orientated with profits more important than maximising football achievement
Saturday was a dreadful experience …..miserable Groundhog Day
It’ll be interesting to see the attendance on Sunday
Hopefully the penny will drop
ohits
20:59 on 13 February, 2014
TD67
I know they dont talk for you but as Celtic supporters they are still allowed there opinion and it should be treated with respect .
HH
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They will get respect from me when they give CFC, The Board, respect they deserve, this is my club, the board and PL are doing a fantastic job, and to be honest they shouldn’t even be giving them any time, but out of courtesy they do, me? Well we won’t go there, I’m an open book on what there end game is.
Stairheedrammy
Give yer heed peace and ignore …it’s the way forward
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
21:00 on
13 February, 2014
Auldheid,
that is the question to ask JP next week then…or Paul could ask it…
too many fans are sick being lied to by msm we don’t need to take it from our representatives.i.e the board..
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Can you give examples BT?
It helps make the point.
Have you read Celtic’s answers to the OM questions?
http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_documents_view&id=51
Where do they fall short of expectations?
I’m not trying to dodge the point, I’m trying to get at the heart of the matter.
Is this the power struggle after the war is won?
BT, true, but that was in February!
Right movie time, negative mob starting to infiltrate, they get no oxygen from me Tara .
Thank feck fir that
Pfayr:
The crowds at CP have been falling for years. who were the extra 25,000 that bought season books during the ferguson revolution? Is it the same 25,000 that’s deserting celtic now or is it a different 25,000? Either way we’re in for a repeat of the nineties with success.
PF- good advice- he must be a wind up
Fergus
Aulheid
balderdash soapy pr guff…
but thats only my opinion…
The honest mistake
I know guys who have been going to CP for years ….not Fergus converts …who are fed up and not going
The board should be very concerned
Good night bhoys…
time for meds…o(
Celtic, are you quietly hoping the cheats return as soon as possible ?
Rather than say anything untoward in the msm, possibly screwing things up for their eventual return, are you just being quietly patient? Patient businessmen. Wrong move. Your fans are your bread and butter. I recommend you do not rely on their patience much further. Its not as if we do not have a list of valid concerns. Listen to us. Act.
Count the heads. Count the heads.
Pfayr.
Did they stop going in the nineties?
Mongolian Bhoy.
I’ve yet to hear any reason why celtic would want the Huns back. Any ideas?
My friends in Celtic,
With regards to Paul 67’s article, the pertinent point for me is it shows that the grass is not always greener.
Gary Hooper not being an instant sucess is no surprise to me.This is not with hindsight, I never rated him as approaching equality with some of our better strikers. Good for us . Yes, Good but never approaching great.
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“Kris Commons, who does not fit the profile of top-flight English clubs but is a rare gem in the Champions League for Celtic.”
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Mnnnnn, Surprising comment, Suffice to say, I disagree.
IMO we have a chance to “rescue” the remainder of this season , a chance that is not often available.
Be bold, envoke the spirit and players of Antalya and play these players. I watched the Winter tournament expecting the worst and was pleasantly surprised, but more importantly impressed. Take this opportunity and give youth a chance.
Arsenal v Man Utd, what a bore. What an impetus we would bring to that league.
HH, Always in Celtic.
PS : Not an opinion merely an observation : Reading back about the “Shame” game. I still remember this game like yesterday. Brilliant memories about the pub before, the actual game and the “lock in” in the pub afterwards. I can’t say that about many games outside some European nights.
The Honest Mistake loves being first…
A better TV deal?
I would like to ask JPT-
Everyone accepts that we are being hampered by the environment we play in which stops us from progressing, what exactly are the custodians-
A. Doing about it.
B. where do they see our club being in 5 years ( I don’t just mean geographically)
C. have they just accepted this is it
HailHail
Aye crowds are falling right enough. I booked a flight this weekend from Exeter, £225, premier inn City Centre £121, match ticket £27-50. Game moved to Sunday for TV, no refunds, £370 for eff all, thank you Celtic .