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Charles Green, owner of “The Rangers Football Club Limited“, formed in May this year, yesterday released a remarkable statement yesterday, ahead of the SPL Commission into How Rangers FC, formed in 1872, registered football players for over a decade.

“In short, what was decided by the SPL membership is that Rangers was finished as a member of the SPL. Despite this, the SPL now see the new owners of the company, and the new company itself, which owns all the assets of Rangers FC – including SPL championship titles – as fair game for punishment for matters that have nothing to do with us at all.”

We dealt with the purchasing of history on here some months ago. Once we realised it was possible, I snapped up ancient Egyptian history, the period from the pharaohs until Mark Antony. I AM responsible for the Pyramids of Giza but any slavery which may or may not have been used in their construction is NOTHING to do with me.

No one complained about the use of slaves at the time and I am sure each pyramid would have been constructed whether slaves were used of not. If slaves were so necessary for the construction I am sure “we” would have built many more.

Mr Green seems keen to protest against the SPL process, however, he, frankly, fails miserably. He doesn’t “question the impartiality of the individual panel members” but assets “whatever decision they reach is a decision of the SPL”.

So that will be independent members reaching a decision for the SPL! I think he doth protest too little.

There is also a threat: “”To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies. Any attempt to undermine or diminish the value of those assets will be met with the stiffest resistance, including legal recourse.”

Charles Green took steps to undermine his new company’s claim on Rangers titles in a BBC interview in June when he said that if his CVA proposal was to fail (which it did) and Rangers were to be liquidated (which they are), “the history, the tradition, everything that’s great about this club is swept aside”.

“Legal recourse”, which is prohibited by Fifa and which the SFA accommodated from Duff and Phelps, acting on behalf of Rangers, will provide Scottish football with a further drama.  We mentioned at the time that the true cost of the SFA being so accommodating would be a repeat performance.

Mr Green asks why the “football authorities do nothing to address an issue that was public knowledge for at least two years, and was reported in the Club’s accounts for several years”? I think I can help here. Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers during the duration of its Employee Benefit Trust years, categorically denied that the club issued players with second contracts which were not submitted to the authorities. He reiterated this point most recently on a Sky News interview in March.

The football authorities have no issues whatsoever with Employee Benefit Trusts, it’s player contracts they insist are registered. Rangers insisted they had no case to answer until the SPL set a deadline on Duff and Phelps to fully disclose the nature of the alleged second contracts.

Charles claims during those lurid weeks when the SPL and SFA were negotiating with Green, that Neil Doncaster “repeatedly stated he was not interested in stripping titles from Rangers”. If he had evidence of this, ANY evidence, it would be fascinating.

If not, we should dismiss this claim.

A curious barb is made in other directions, “Rangers was not the only Club in Scotland to use EBTs yet nothing was done and little has been heard about it”.

One more time, for Mr Green’s benefit, EBTs are not against football regulations whatsoever. They are entirely legal and permitted by the SFA and SPL. The SPL Commission is not investigating whether Rangers used EBTs or not, it will investigate whether or not all player contracts were registered.

Mr Green goes on to make varied comments against “powerful representatives from Clubs within the SPL…. who appear hell bent on inflicting as much damage on Rangers as possible”, and that some “clubs were placed in an invidious position and we believe their interests were not best served by those in more powerful positions”.

Let’s have some context here. If we were to make a list of those who inflicted most damage on Rangers, representatives from other clubs would scarcely merit a mention. Those who allowed the club to spend more than it earned for so many years, who introduced the perilous tax avoidance system, those who failed to make accommodations for HMRC’s claim when it was first made, and those directors who personally benefited from the EBT scheme all carry primary responsibility.

Then would come the cheerleaders for the disastrous Craig Whyte regime – those who last year campaigned for the takeover, including putting pressure on Lloyds Banking Group to accept the terms.

Rangers opponents were spectators throughout this period. Any suggestion that our club were anything but opponents to Rangers, and alleged victims of trophies won by illegally registered players, when they should have been campaigning on behalf of their rivals, seriously misreads what was an established Glasgow rivalry. Of course it would be the same the other way – and rightly so.

Despite clearly feeling strongly about the Commission, Green didn’t address the key point….

There was no denial of the central charge that for a decade or more Rangers fielded improperly registered football players.

Yesterday some people suggested Green had offered the Lance Armstrong defence but Armstrong denied he was guilty while refusing to participate in the investigation into doping. This is a different matter altogether. Green has offered up something for every conceivable paranoid condition without actually claiming Rangers are wrongly accused.

The headlines today are all about titles being stripped but that is not the main topic in play. More importantly, after titles are stripped, what punishment will the SPL Commission levy on the Rangers membership, granted to Sevco in June?

The sheer scale of the charge makes this question incalculable. The toxicity attached to that membership is untenable and no bogeymen at other clubs, at the SPL or SFA are responsible for that.

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SWISS TONY

     

     

    PAUL67 is gonna bar you from the blog for that request-it’s likely to crash the server.

     

     

    The restaurants in Kilwinning are all utterly fabulous,btw-I honestly cannot remember having a bad meal in any of them.

     

     

    Or much else………

  3. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    ….at the lowest attendance for a qualifier for 10 years the exact same period we have paid for the pleasure of being ripped off watching a corrupted SPL competition.

     

     

    And so far not even an apology offered.

     

     

    EBT Chief Ogilvie still in situ

     

     

    I hope you are all contacting lawyers in anticipation of the FTT decision.

     

     

    HH

  5. wonkyradar on

    When Green gives one of his impromptu ‘mobocracy’ speeches at the Burger Van do the hordes have headphones on so they can translate it into ‘ned lingo’?

     

     

    I can imagine a time when Chuckles will be giving it two sovvy ringed middle finger salutes in his XXL Sevco top and pie encrusted shell-suit bottoms…”Gringo’s wanni uz soay iz…pure legend innaw rat!”

  8. ItaliaBhoy on

    Swiss Tony

     

     

    One Devonshire (west end)

     

    Grill Room at 29 Royal Exchange Square (centre)

     

    Ian Brown (southside)

  11. lionroars67 on

    weeminger

     

    10:54 on

     

    12 September, 2012

     

    lionroars67

     

     

    10:47 on

     

    12 September, 2012

     

     

    Is it still the case that technically neither of them are correct, the liquidator is appointed but they haven’t actually been put into liquidation yet?

     

     

    Yes to a point however to completely deny there is a liquidator is an extreme form of blindness is it not

     

     

    Mitchell is correct to say when the CVA was rejected by HMRC and the move to liquidate oldco was put in place (although as you point out not yet finalised) then there place in the SPL was at an end

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    AWE NAW 1058

     

     

    Go on,spill it,bud.

     

     

    Whose server have you hacked now?

  15. ernie lynch on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    10:55 on 12 September, 2012

     

     

     

    ”The restaurants in Kilwinning are all utterly fabulous”

     

     

     

     

    Does the Mother India thing not trace its roots back to Kilwinning?

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SWISS TONY 1102

     

     

    Couldnae tell ye. I’d get kicked oot the ludge.

     

     

    One of them is an Indian restaurant in the former premises of The Abbey Bar.

     

     

    Naturally,it is known locally as The Punj-abbey…..

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    I was reading possible Alex Salmond speeches for when the FTT decision hits the fan. Too much material for WikiLeaks ;-)

     

     

    HH

  19. weeminger on

    lionroars67

     

    11:07 on

     

    12 September, 2012

     

     

    Just checking. I’ve been really busy and have lost track a little of where things are.

     

     

    Although it’s pedantic, I think it’s necessary to be absolutely factually correct in these articles, otherwise it’s all to easy for people to dismiss them and I know that on occasion the same has happened from this side of the fence (generally speaking).

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ERNIE LYNCH 1112

     

     

    Not sure,but I think that’s another branch of the code altogether.

     

     

    Started in France or Holland,IIRC.

     

     

    I have seen reference to India in 00,without really paying much attention to it-I’ll have a closer look (on the qt,no questions asked,etc) next month.

     

     

    Interesting,Ernie. I really hadn’t thought about that-thanks.

  22. wonkyradar on

    BRTH:

     

     

    Lendl was one of my favourite players when I was a kid. Seriously. I did like Edberg right enough. And you often have to wonder how good McEnroe could have been if he had just screwed the nut. Lendl remains the only male tennis player with 90% match wins in five different years- with 82 the first and 89 the last. Between 85 and 89 he was one of the games greatest ever players. He single-handedly took tennis into a new era. I was distraught when he lost in straight sets to Becker at Wimbledon in 86. I never liked Becker.

     

    Andy Murray couldn’t ask for a better mentor nor a greater motivator than Ivan Lendl in my opnion. I hope this opens up the flood gates for Andy. Federer is coming to the twilight of his career. Andy is still only 25. There is still plenty of time. Lendl was 24 or 25 before he came into his peak years. Some mature early, like Nadal, others later, like Andy Murray; lets hope that his US Open victory is a baptism of fire.

  23. Paddy Turner on

    Testing….1…2….

     

     

    Wonder if Mel from Benidorm will be chasing the Euros earned by the OldCo…………

     

     

    Wonder why Dumb & Dumber made the quick “sale” of the OldCo to Mel, after the failure of the promised CVA.

     

     

    Fail to understand this “sale” as being in the best interest of the Creditors…………where the tag “sale” is loosely attached.

     

     

    Paddy T

  24. southside on

    Managed to acquire ticket packages for myself and Ss junior after managing to break down the complex online booking procedure (lucky I had that enigma machine handy) juniors first CL experience and a chance to see his first and second favourite teams play (barca). Well beyond excited!

  25. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    AWE NAW 1112

     

     

    One of my rare LOL moments……..

     

     

    How many sweary words had to be deleted?

     

     

    Did he manage to blame them English gits who fraudulently took over Scotland’s,sorry,the world’s finest financial institution and then pulled the plug on Scotland’s,sorry,the world’s finest other institution?

     

     

    Or is he just a nutter?

  27. leftclicktic on

    milton 2 mearns

     

    I looked on deadclub media for there response to R mitchells herald article

     

    out of about 30 comments it was mostly denial,

     

    bile, denial, bile & Put him on the list.

     

    NO CHANGE THERE :))))

     

    HAIL HAIL

  30. ernie lynch on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    11:21 on 12 September, 2012

     

     

     

    I’ve a vague recollection of a waitress in Bhowani Junction (as it then was) telling me that they’d started in Kilwinning.

  31. miki67 on

    macjay1 for neil lennon10:39 on12 September, 2012

     

    What the huns did,do or will do, will never determine my attitude to anything.

     

    What really matters.Serious news from Benghazi.

     

    >>>>>>

     

    Yes. Your post sent me off to watch the documentary which has sparked this latest inflammatuon of an already overheated situation.

     

    No wonder Ch4 has pulled it. Pseudo history, slyly presented, and designed to insult.

     

    What are some people thinking of?

     

    HH.

  32. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ERNIE LYNCH 1146

     

     

    EVERYONE wants to have a connection to Kilwinning-it’s not known as “The Crossroads of Ayrshire” for nothing,you know!

     

     

    (Actually,I was unaware of that until recently-I was just happy there were so many ways out of it!)

     

     

    I’ll definitely dig a little deeper when I’m back next month,though not too deep,as apparently there’s a theory that The Holy Grail is there too-I kid you not!

  35. voguepunter on

    KevJungle – Murdo..10 men Championees..1979

     

    10:31 on

     

    12 September, 2012

     

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    10:28 on 12 September, 2012

     

    _____________________________________________________

     

    Agreed M8 :o)))

     

     

    I apologise if I came on too strong there. Sorry.

     

     

    We’re still pals – CSC

     

    —————————————————————————————————————-

     

    Glad to see Kev’s got a friend.

  36. I'm Neil Lennon (tamrabam) on

    One of the redtops ran a story last week about the cost of sending kids from troubled backgorunds to school in taxis costing something like £20 million quid a year

     

    Another redtop story was that methadone programme cost £38 million quid a year

     

    But the thing is when you add both these costs together you don’t even come close to the amount that it cost the taxpayer to run rangers over the past 10 years

  38. ernie lynch on

    miki67

     

     

    11:51 on 12 September, 2012

     

     

     

    ”Your post sent me off to watch the documentary which has sparked this latest inflammatuon of an already overheated situation.

     

    No wonder Ch4 has pulled it.”

     

     

     

     

    The trouble in Libya was sparked by a movie made by an Israeli living in California, so far as I know there was no intention to show it on British TV.

     

     

    The Ch4 programe you refer to has not been pulled, it’s already been aired and is still available to watch online.. A screening at a theatre in London has been cancelled due to threats of violence against the programe makers.

  40. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TAMRABAM 1201

     

     

    Did they offer any opinions on the costs to the community on these kids NOT going to school,and roaming the streets instead?

     

     

    Or addicts being left untreated and trying to find a way to fund their habit?

     

     

    There but for the grace of God go a great many of us.

  41. South Of Tunis on

    ernie lynch @ 11 46

     

     

    Mother India ?

     

     

    Your post triggered this .-

     

     

    Memory of reading a profile of the guy who owns The Mother India thing ..

     

     

    Came from the Calton . Opened a place in Whitburn -it failed . Opened another place in Ayrshire – it failed -went to work for the Ashoka people and then started the Mother India thing .

     

     

    I could easily be wrong——

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