Hibs Armageddon dividend, gift the young will never know

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Well done to Hibernian fans for turning up in sufficient numbers to increase turnover to £8.0m from £6.9m the previous season, allowing the club to turn a profit in Armageddon season, despite some mediocre performances on the field.  The challenge for chairman Rod Petrie is to ensure the elevated income level results in the club outperforming village clubs, who survive on a fraction of Hibs income.

Hibernian should tower over St Johnstone, Inverness, Ross County and Motherwell in the race for second place.

Debt remains high at £5.5m (if Celtic’s debt was a similar proportion to turnover it would be circa £40m) but with the wages to turnover ratio at 49% there is scope to both bring debt down and get better value for money on the field.

30 friends, family and supporters of the Tommy Burns Skin Cancer Trust will be leaving Celtic Park on tomorrow afternoon heading to Dingwall where they will start a 400 mile cycle round every Scottish Premiership ground returning to Celtic Park on Sunday 15th September at 3:30pm. Their goal is to raise £100k for Melanoma Action and Support Scotland (MasScot) who are looking to introduce Scotland’s first ever mobile skin cancer screening unit which is bound to save lives given the success rates when diagnosing melanoma in early stages.

You can follow the team @TommyBurnsSCT and on Facebook this week as they begin this amazing fundraising event. Please support the team if you can at MyDonate. Packie Bonner and Frank McGarvey are signed up and Bertie Auld is getting involved in the final day.

You can participate in the last hour of the cycle, from St Mirren to Celtic Park, leaving around 2:30 on the Sunday, by emailing scottmcgarvey@gmail.com.  Scott will get you organised and help with a fundraising page.

Our thoughts to Jock Stein’s surviving family today, 28 years after his death, as another former Celtic manager prepares Scotland for a World Cup qualifier.  Those old enough to remember his time have a gift which the young will never know.
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  1. The Token Tim in support and praying for Wee Oscar on

    Summa,

     

     

    haha Im sure ST will still find a way to have a wee moan :-)

     

     

    BTW trip to Geelong looks like postponed for another 6 months…..

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  2. the token tim in support and praying for wee oscar12:11 on 10 September, 2013SydneyTim/Kev/MickTT/HT,Was my first European trip too, Saltcoats bus along with Ardrossan Garryowen, a laugh from start to finish, but put me off European bus trips… was a great laugh though… trams, red lights!

     

     

    HH

  3. sydneytim

     

     

    12:16 on 10 September, 2013Token. Great party our ferry trip back next day was better. There was a band on board who started to playNext nite in London watched the Huns getting pumped out of CL in a pub It was a strip pub and the girls got lots of Belgium coins in their tip glasses. We Weren’t watching them but golam dropping ball and Huns losing :)))

     

     

    Aye we headed into a boozer in Tottenham, same scenario, more drink and laugh at the football on show. One of my mates went onto the piano and played the Soldier Song… . He kept that one quiet.. well it was the first couple of lines, we were still in awe

     

     

    HH

  4. Sydneytim @ 10.48

     

     

    I stand corrected about Davie Moyes. His father was no bluenose, and Davie never acted like one when I was in his company. Are you a Bearsden bhoy? I am a Temple Tim. Our bus left fae the Siggy and we used to share with Bearsden and Milngavie bhoys.

  5. Malone Bhoy

     

     

    Aye, I tuned in to the spain game to have a look at Pukki.

     

    I seem to recall the commentators saying something to the

     

    effect of “constant threat/thorn in the side…”

     

     

    The game seemed structured much as we’d expect Celtic

     

    Barca to pan out. Two disciplined banks of four behind the ball

     

    trying to hit out on the counter. Pukki played the role well.

     

     

    NIce bit of pace and movement, showed that willingness

     

    to strike the ball from distance we’d seen before in the clips.

     

    Obviously chances were limited against that calibre of opposition,

     

    and didn’t have too much in terms of support, but overall I’d say

     

    he put in a good shift and looked the part.

  6. Delaney. Yup. From that neck of the woods

     

    Was a member of that bus centenary season. It picked us up at abbosford

     

    I remember bumping into one of the temple guys in jintys one nite about 10 Years ago

     

    It wasn’t you was it ??

  7. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    Can’t believe it’s Jock’s 28th anniversary. RIP.

     

     

    I was one of the privileged ones of that generation. I can remember lots of it as if it happened yesterday.

     

     

    A big thank you to Jock for so many happy, wonderful, unforgettable Celtic victories, performances and trophies and for always fighting our corner for us.

     

     

    Jock Stein – the founder of the modern Celtic FC.

  8. Sydneytim

     

     

    It could have been me? I was at every game home and away in ’88 on the Siggy. Happy Days! :-)

  9. acgr@hotmail.co.uk - Only three million free Zadok The Priest ringtones left to give away - Get them while stocks last. on

    Big Nan

     

     

    Masonic judge petition signed.

     

     

     

    Acgr

  10. Remember the police back up in Ekeren were the Belgian version of Dad’s Army.Cue the bhoys taking guns off them for photographs,mental time.The guns looked like muskets fae Pirates of the Carribean

  11. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Delaneys Dunky. Unfortunately talk around Manchester already that the Utd. job is to big for him. We will see. H.H.

  12. good afternoon Timland..different desert but still hot as hell.. not got to put up with it much longer as i expect a trip back to the rain blighted country next month…..

     

     

    anyways..

     

     

    Malonebhoy… Pukki..only flicked through channels (too many games on).. tried hard, not much support,.. from what i’ve seen of him he’ll be a success with us; and will score goals.

  13. Hi folks

     

     

    The couch is a great place for making discoveries. I found one such treasure while flicking through the schedule on the telly a couple of weeks or so ago.

     

     

    I think we can safely say that conspiracy theoristsfar and wide can justifiably be smug in that it confirms the link between the BBC and ‘THEM’! The programme (see link) at 12.30 on BBC 1 is damning!

     

     

    Is this how they are offloading their unwanted players…….or possibly attracting their future stars?

     

     

     

    http://tinyurl.com/q6hednl

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    Estadio

  14. Edgar Blamm @EdgarBlamm

     

    Some speculation that they’re heading for an insolvency event before AGM, or a split of the assets, or both. Delays are while they organise.

  15. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    joe filippis haircut

     

     

    13:12 on 10 September, 2013

     

    Delaneys Dunky. Unfortunately talk around Manchester already that the Utd. job is to big for him. We will see. H.H.

     

     

    ……………………………..

     

     

    Who do the Man U fans think they are? Davies Moyes will do the business given time. Do they forget that Fergie was on the point of being sacked after almost 4 years without a trophy? Look how he turned out and how their Board’s patience and trust in him was rewarded.

     

     

    Davies Moyes has confidence in his own ability and won’t be overawed by anyone in Manchester. He talks a lot of common sense and as a former Celt who only has good things to say about the club, I wish him every success.

  16. cliftonville celt from belfast praying for Oscar the wee legend on

    Been away on holiday and had all sorts of bother with e-mail & internet so only getting to post now –

     

     

    Larrybhoy – The thoughts of myself and my whole family are with you and yours after the death of miki67 – someone who I had never met but was an inspirational figure throughout his illness and was always in my prayers & will continue to be for all time. A true celtic quick news legend who will be missed by all.

     

     

    May his soul and the souls of all the faithfully departed rest in peace

     

     

    Cliftonville Celt and the whole of Belfast

  17. The Token Tim in support and praying for Wee Oscar on

    TOSB,

     

     

    i remember that very same question, but with regard to Celtic fans instead, when a lsection of the Cetic support wanted rid of a manager who had just won us 3 Titles on the bounce……..

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

     

     

    FootballFansAndTheirFickleness CSC

  18. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    TOSB. I think the Utd fans have been spoiled by past success and are not happy at the clubs transfer activity during the transfer window.They are also blaming David Moyes for unsettling Rooney.They also havnt looked to good on the park since the start of the season so adding these things together many of them are pretty disgruntled. H.H.

  19. The Token Tim in support and praying for Wee Oscar on

    hmmm cut and paste (after changing my original post) doesnt seem to be my strong point…..

  20. bada bing!!

     

     

    13:11 on 10 September, 2013Remember the police back up in Ekeren were the Belgian version of Dad’s Army.Cue the bhoys taking guns off them for photographs,mental time.The guns looked like muskets fae Pirates of the Carribean

     

     

    My brother lost his ticket, and he strolled past two guys sitting at a table and into the game..

     

     

    HH

  21. Buongiorno all.

     

     

    Firstly – very many happy returns to wee Oscar on his 5th birthday.

     

     

    Secondly – big Jock left us 28 years ago today: gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.

     

     

    HH!!

  22. JFH

     

     

    Wouldn’t mind Man Utd. in the last 16 Champs League. Unless they spend big in January.

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    SydneyTim..

     

     

    Taking My Wee Ghirl to the Mountains (Grampians) next week..Join us..l booked a big Cabin..

     

     

    The Token Tim..

     

     

    Don’t worry When You come to Melbourne..A Book will be Wrote..;-))

     

     

    Summa

  24. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Delaneys Dunky. I like that positive thinking fella but im not sure Utd will get that far. H.H.

  25. gallowgate mad squad on

    RIP big Jock. In the history of Scottish sport, for me there are four individual world giants – Jock, Alan Wells, Andy Irvine and Andy Murray. Just off the podium – Dalglish, Johnstone and Lennox.

     

    Strangely, the best individual performance I’ve ever seen live was by an old Falkirk player- I forget his name but he was nicknamed Crunchie (Kevin McAllister?) and best team performance I’ve ever seen I think was when Jim McLean was in charge of Dundee Utd. It was pouring with rain, a Wednesday night, and I was in the jungle. Utd won 3-0 with their wing play just brilliant. Best atmosphere- Celtic v Real.

  26. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    summa of sammi….

     

     

    11:48 on 10 September, 2013

     

     

    I have a feeling about this season’s CL…..

  27. Spiers on Spence in the Herald

     

     

    Scottish football remains poisoned by the continuing fall-out over the liquidation of Rangers last year. Bitterness and venom are spouting forth in ways the game has scarcely known north of the border.

     

     

    A section of Rangers supporters feel deeply aggrieved, and much of it is justified. Their club was betrayed and ruined by a rogues’ gallery of dodgy geezers, and terrible damage was done.

     

     

    The problem is, many of these same supporters originally gave their backing to some of these characters. I was outside Ibrox on May 7 2011 when Craig Whyte rode into town. If some Rangers fans that day had waved palm branches along Edmiston Drive they couldn’t have looked more exuberant in their welcome.

     

     

     

    Egged on by the Daily Record, which repeatedly fawned to Whyte and fatuously hailed him “a billionaire”, a seed was being sown which would have catastrophic consequences.

     

     

    When liquidation finally came to Rangers, an eruption of bitterness and casting around for blame broke out, and it continues to this day. Just ask Jim Spence, a BBC Scotland journalist, who has recently copped much flak.

     

     

    Spence’s “crime” was an odd one. On Radio Scotland last week he blithely spoke words on air which a wide range of Scottish football observers, businessmen, insolvency people and more would have taken for granted. Spence referred to the liquidated Rangers Football Club plc as “the club that died”.

     

     

    Amid this furnace of ill-feeling, for many Rangers supporters this is a detested and deeply hurtful phrase. And it fairly roused them to action. Over 400 Rangers fans complained to BBC Scotland, who duly issued an apology for any offence that may have been taken.

     

     

    Rangers and their director of communication, James Traynor, leapt into action by issuing their own statement, appearing to warn that the club’s lawyers might get involved over a journalist such as Spence daring to use such words as “a dead club”.

     

     

    Traynor should certainly know all about that. Last year, still working as a Daily Record columnist, this is what he himself wrote: “Rangers as we know them died. Rangers FC are dead.”

     

     

    If, as Jim and Rangers are threatening, their lawyers go to war over Spence, it would surely count as the most farcical piece of litigation ever seen in Scottish football. For the sake of Rangers’ own head of communication, one must hope the legal pursuit is not retrospective.

     

     

    The context of Spence and the BBC will have to be worked out separately. In recent months, the BBC Trust set out guidelines for referring to “old” and “new” Rangers, and held that the BBC in Scotland had failed to be precise in this.

     

     

    But a wider point is more intriguing: are journalists, reporters and commentators really to be hounded for referring to the liquidated Rangers as “the old Rangers”?

     

     

    There has been something sinister about the way Jim Spence has been treated, given that many would argue he merely stated the bleedin’ obvious.

     

     

    Perhaps Spence and Traynor, in their separate ways, were trying to be controversial or provocative in their remarks. In which case, controversy can have its place, just as it must also be counter-challenged, such as here.

     

     

    Where the exegetical fog exists is when, in debating the sins of the old Rangers regime, people seek to distinguish between the club then and now.

     

     

    It inevitably needs a phrase such as “old” or “oldco” or “original” Rangers or some such delineation. The very language, though, makes some Rangers fans livid.

     

     

    It is proving a painful subject. Some have argued that it shouldn’t matter; that even for ardent Rangers supporters, the club is here, it plays at Ibrox, it has the same name, the same strip, the same lustre. Why, it has been asked, make such a song and dance?

     

     

    But I’ve discovered this won’t wash. For some Rangers fans it is an emotional agony to think of their precious club being dissolved last year – the notion is simply not for consideration.

     

     

    The famed phrase “it was the company, not the club, which went bust” was born roundabout the spring of 2012, when liquidation became a certainty, and has been clung to ever since by fans. And hell mend anyone – and certainly any pesky hack – who dares to differ.

     

     

    This has been a very painful experience for Rangers. And the venom and anger are showing no signs of abating.

  28. Wots that Skip????………….

     

     

    Smokescreens a -go-go- down Edmiston Way…………..you say

     

    …………..obliging msm reporting the pantomime fiddling

     

    …………………… while Asbestox burns

     

    …..again.

     

     

    That’ll learn ye…………..

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