Neil Lennon suggested Gary Hooper, unquestionably his favourite son, was Celtic’s best striker since Henrik Larsson. It’s an interesting question.
The list is long: Chris Sutton, John Hartson, Henri Camara, Craig Bellamy, Dion Dublin, Scott McDonald, Marc-Antoine Fortune, Chris Killen, Maciej Zurawski, Kenny Miller, Derek Riordan, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, Georgios Samaras, Robbie Keane, Diomansy Kamara, Olivier Kapo, Anthony Stokes, Pawel Brozek, Moh Bangura, Daryl Murphy, Miku and Lassad.
Apologies if I’ve overlooked someone. That’s 22 strikers in nine years (it’s a bit soon to consider Amido Balde), some of whom were loans, but the list doesn’t include the many Celtic youth players who got their shot at first team football, or those, like Tony Watt, who were signed for low fees from lower league Scottish clubs.
Chris Sutton and John Hartson were already at the club when Henrik left, but it quickly became evident they were past their best. Robbie Keane and Craig Bellamy were quality but only played a dozen or so games, so can’t really be considered as competition to Hooper.
Maciej Zurawski arrived a year after Larsson left and had a phenomenal first season at the club. He made his debut after the 5-0 reversal to Artmedia but inspired Celtic to a 4-0 win six days later. Maciej was on fire when he joined and only failed to score in five league games before the league win in April but he never found anything close to that consistency again. Record: 22 goals in 55 games.
Scott McDonald’s YouTube clip of goals in the Champions League and against Rangers will have featured heavily in the portfolio as his agent looked for a new club this year. His goals got us into the Champions League, beat European champions, Milan, and regularly put our (then) nearest rivals to the sword. Record: 51 goals in 88 games.
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink arrived in summer 2006 and immediately outshone Zurawski. His debut as a substitute against Hibs transformed Celtic and won the game. His signing was pivotal in Celtic winning the title in 2007. Record: 34 goals in 78 games.
Georgios Samaras arrived 18 months after Vennegoor of Hesselink and alongside Barry Robson pushed Celtic over the line for three in a row. 2008 was a fabulous year for Georgios but although he’s still a forward, he’s not really been a striker since. Record: 41 goals in 138 games.
With 63 goals, 95 games, Gary Hooper’s scoring record is better than anyone else’s, but the challenge to be best since Larsson was simple, just outperform Scott McDonald. With all those strikers as competition, that’s not as high as the bar could be.
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verdantvic
18:14 on 28 July, 2013
The events of the past year kinda lead me to believe that castle greyskull was gonna crumble and all the years of unfairness would be redressed.
It now looks to me like Celtic will crumble first-because those with integrity will eventually get sick of the corruption.
just a thought…
Sorry amigo/a
What a load of shite!
The more good players we have for any position is good in my book. If he has been reared by Ajax, he might well be able to teach our young lhads a thing or 2.
Am I right in thinking that “it’s only semantics” Nevin has contradicted himself with regard to his condemnation of the Celtic support during that Cup final? Come on, Pat, set the record straight. Why did you say what you said? Was it to keep your job in the Scottish media?
By the looks of it our young lhads won’t be getting a chance
Could it really be true that Joe Ledley is on the way out of Celtic? the last I read was he was happy and looking to sign a new deal are we not prepared to pay what he is after ?I think he would be a big loss he is the quiet man who in my book never lets the hoops down.I think we need to stop anyone else leaving other than Kelvin Wilson who is homesick if to many leave the team will be lucky to make any progress.H.H.
Some poorer ratios
Tony cascarino 17%
Stuart slater 7%
Dziekanowski 20%
Alan mcinally 26%
A Stor Mo Chroi
Are you staying up 24 hours:o)
I think of Matt as well from time to time. I miss him and his wonderful stories.
Vmhan mentioned earlier that he’d love to meet you. I only met you briefly one day in BB’s but tell you what I’d love to meet you on your home turf. And I’d also love to meet Kano and I’m going to try to make both those things happen one day.
A story
I’ve tried to text and call him a couple of times to no avail.
The best /most skillful Celtic players of my long years are,
1 Lubo (by a country mile too)
2 Bertie Auld
3 Tommy Burns
4 Paul McStay
5 Henke
KINGLuBO
A stor even.
TnT
Jackie dziekanowski only 20% scoring ratio in scotland !!!!!
That’s not the story I heard :))))))
No googling, but who can tell me how many appearances David Moyes played for the hoops?
Interesting wee story about David Moyes;
As a player with Cambridge United, he received abuse from team-mate Roy McDonough for his religious belief; Moyes is a practising Christian. McDonough felt that religion was distracting them from focusing on playing, speaking of Moyes, Alan Comfort and Graham Daniels he said: “The three of them sat in the changing room with a little black book, discussing their beliefs, when they should have been getting psyched up for a relegation scrap.
Following a 3–3 draw with Wigan Athletic on 9 March 1985, McDonough, who was 26 years old at the time, states that he “battered” 20-year-old Moyes for not putting sufficient effort into the game.
seems derk is not getting good press on twitter…….a horse playing with a ball !!!!..
Jinky
Apologies if that’s incorrect but 10 goals in 49 games is what I have? You doubting the evening times wee red book??? :-)
Jinky
Ha…ok..penny dropped….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXxmMUIx8k
twists
Single figures I would have guessed.
Just read the much adored BRTH article on the previous thread.
I think he is just copying what I have said all month just more verbose and long winded :)
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
Last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
Jinky
It’s the wrong book I’m using right enough. Not the wee red book I need, it’s jackies wee black book.
Kinglubo
di Canio and Naka must merit a mention for skill.
TT
Joe Filippis Haircut 18:26 on 28 July, 2013
Could it really be true that Joe Ledley is on the way out of Celtic?
It’s strange after what happened with Hooper that his contract has been allowed to go down to the last year.
Celtic On the Brink of Signing Derk Boerrigter
Sevcomedians micturating over their new bus which is, predictably, orange. See it as a GIRUY to Timothy. This post is intriguing for reasons related to medical science and, in particular, psychiatry:
” Was down scattering my uncles ashes with my brother. Brought a laugh to what could have been a sombre moment.”
EDB
It’s actually 24, and I honestly thought that was low. I seemed to recall him being around more than that. Ah..memory ain’t good.
twists n turns
18:34 on 28 July, 2013
Same number of appearances as trophies stolen by the huns?
archdeaconsbench,
Do you mean that Law, Daly et al are just training with The Rangers and not being paid, on the understanding that they will get a contract as from 1 September?
I don’t see it – unless there was a nod and a wink with a big “signing bonus” involved.
And the press reports have all specified that they signed 2/3/whatever year contracts – not that I’m confident they would get it right.
interesting lennie used a simile (ish). We’ll never have a ‘ better than’ ! Googling ‘best since’ you get Chris Sutton followed by a lot of entries for hoops. Hooper was great for us in this wee era for celtic, just don’t ask him lace Larsson’s boots. My favourite thing about Larsson was how he would hold the ball up through sheer skill and determination and how that kept us in games we were struggling in. It was a skill of his which generally went unmentioned. I don’t want to rehash the recent debate but I don’t expect to get and keep another larsson under the current model- it’ll be a long time before we see his like again – I’m not too keen on Lennie reminding us of what we’re missing
++++++
Interestingly, and showing the confusion, the BBC web site report graphic shows that Trailist scored twice.
And then the report begins, “Summer signing Nicky Law scored twice …”
Heres that 800 pound gorilla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CenERO8_x7U
My two bob on Hooper, Disappointed to see him leave, best since Henke by a mile IMO, control and awareness in and around the box was second to none!! My 7 year old son is also going through something we all have as Bhoys… the loss of your first hero, mines was Johnstone to Nantes (pre hun) though I explained to him that good players come and go and he will be cheering on a new star shortly as this is the Celtic way, heroes come and go!!
Asonofdan
Yep, it’s appearing on Dutch football sites now too. £3.5m
Evening all
Top five Celts seen in the flesh
1. Jimmy Johnstone
2. Henrik Larsson
3. Danny McGrain
4. Bobby Murdoch
5= Kenny Dalglish
5= Lubomir Moravcik
Apologies to Paul, Tommy G, Tommy B, Bertie, Bobby L, Wispy, Cesar, Ronnie, George C, Chris, Macca, Shunsuke, Macca, Charlie, Lambo, Stan, Harry, Dixie, Packie, Artur, Choccy, Georgios, Stevie, Yogi, Joe, Jim, John, Pierre, Pat
Oh and happy clapper though I am – I want answers. Canamalar 1 I await your missive!
Jimbo
Maggie
Not quite, Jimmy McGrory is closer to that number. Only , Jimmy’s number is frozen now, whilst the Hun number will grow year on year.
Hail, hail and evening all from a rather wet and miggie infested highlands.
It seems to have been a busy few days with quite a number of new names being link wither the club.So here’s the latest version of The List which covers most of them.
As ever if any of you know of anyone I might have missed please let me know.
————————————————
Players in:
———–
Name Age Position Club Price
—-— ——– —-—–
Van Dijk – 22 – Defender – Groningen – £2M
Balde – 22– Striker – Vitoria S.C. – £1.7M
Mouyokolo – 26– Midfielder – No club – Free
Players out:
———–
Name Club Price
—-—- —–
Rogne – Wigan – Free
Gershon – Waasland – Beveren – Loan deal ended
Murphy – Ipswich – Free
McCourt – No new club – Free
Lassad – No new club – Released
Miku – Getafe – Loan deal ended
Noring – Trelleborgs FF – Loan deal ended
Keating – Brisbane Roar – Free
Wanyama – Southampton – £12.5M
Hooper – Norwich – £5.2M
Rumoured transfer in:
———————
Keepers
——-
Name Age Club Source Price
—-— —- —— —–
Westwood – 28 – Sunderland – Various – No fee mention (12/07)
Twardzik – 26 – Released by Aberdeen – Daily Mail – Free (22/07)
Defenders
———
Name Age Club Source Price
—-— —- —— —–
Hutchinson –22– Motherwell – Daily Express – No fee mentioned
(29/05)
Dja Djedje – 22 – PSG – Daily Sevco – No fee emntioned
(02/06)
Dummett –21– Newcastle– TheJournal – No fee mentioned
(05/06)
Mongongu – 23 – Evian – BBCSport – No fee mentioned(17/06)
Nagatomo – 26 – Inter Milan – Evening Times – £1.5-2M (20/06)
Lowry – 24 – Millwall – Sportsmole – £500K (28/07)
Midfielders
———–
Name Age Club Source Price
—-— —- —— —–
McClean – 26 – Sunderland – Daily Star – £2M (26/05)
Patosi – 20 – Lokeren – Daily Mail – £2M (03/06)
Ljajic – 21– Fiorentina – BBCSport – No fee mentioned(05/06)
Newton – 21– Newcastle – The Journal – No fee
mentioned (05/06)
Claasen – 23 – Lierse – STVSport – Free (17/06)
Mackay-Steven –22–Dundee Utd –Various –£1M (05/07)
Bruns – 21–Heracles Almelo – STVSport –No fee mentioned
(11/07)
Tié Bi – 22 – Evian – STVSport – No fee mentioned (11/07)
Lukasik – 22 – Legia Warsaw – STVSport – No fee mentioned
(11/07)
Yadin – 26 – Maccabi Haifa – Celticrumours– £700K (11/07)
Malanda – Adje – 18 – Zulte Waregem – Various – No fee
mentioned (11/07)
Barbosa – 26 – Braga – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
(12/07)
Kiko – 22 – Barcalona – Celticrumours – Loan deal (18/07)
Ibrahim – 22– Man City – Daily Mail – Loan deal (19/07)
Estigarribia – 25 – Deportivo Maldonado – No fee
mentioned (25/07)
Dorrans – 26 – WBA – Birmingham Mail – No fee mentioned
(25/07)
Moritz – 26 – Released by Crystal Palace – Daily Star – Free,
trial offered (25/07)
Atsu – 21 – Porto – Various – £5M (27/07)
Toivonen – 27 – PSV – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
(27/07)
Fischer – 19 – Ajax – Various – £3M (28/07)
Berg Gudmundsson – 22 – AZ – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (28/07)
Boerrigter- 26 – Ajax – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (28/07)
Strikers
——–
Name Age Club Source Price
—-— —- —— —–
Deeney –25–Watford –Sunday Post –No fee mentioned
(30/05)
Sagbo – 25– Evian– Daily Sevco – No fee mentioned (02/06)
Cole –29–West Ham –Various –Free (13/06)
Goncalves –22–Rio Ave –The Scottish Sun –£400K (13/06)
Le Fondre – 26– Reading –Various– No fee mentioned
(14/06)
Doyle –29– Wolves– Various– No fee mentioned (16/06)
McFadden – 30–No club – Various –Free (04/07)
Tomlin –24–Peterbourough – TeamTalk.com –No fee mentioned
(06/07)
Janko – 30– Trabzonspor – Celticrumours –£2M (07/07)
Austin –24–Burnley Various – No fee mentioned(10/07)
Becchio –29–Norwich City –Daily Mail –Player pluscash for
Hooper (12/07)
Ardemagni – 26–Atlanta – Italian press– No fee mentioned
(12/07)
Sharp –27 –Southampton –Various –No feementioned
(14/07)
Toure –27 –Monaco –Inside Futball – £3M (16/07)
Emnes– 25– Middlesbrough –Celticrumours– No fee
mentioned(19/07)
Hosiner –24–Austria Wien –Celticrumours– £4M (19/07)
Pohjanpalo – 18– Helsinki –Celticrumours– £4M (19/07))
Long – 26 – WBA – Daily Mail – £4.4M (23/07)
Rudnevs – 25 – Hamburg – Various – £4.5M (24/07)
Khelifa – 25 – Evian – Various – No fee mentioned (24/07)
Rhodes – 23 – Blackburn – Daily Express – No fee mentioned
(25/07)
Piazon – 19 – Chelsea – Celticrumours – Year long loan
(25/07)
Mackie – 27 – QPR – The Sun – Poosible player plus cash for
Hooper (25/07)
Finnbogason – 24 – Heerenveen – Various – £4-£5M (25/07)
Allagui – 27 – Hertha – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned
(25/07)
Bebe – 23 – Released by Man Utd – Celticrumours – Free
(25/07)
Machede – 21 – Released by Man Utd – Celticrumours – Free
(25/07)
McKay – 24 – ICT – Daily Express – No fee mentioned (27/07)
Griffiths – 22 – Wolves – Daily Mail – No fee mentioned
(27/07)
Hosiner – 24 – Austria Vienna – Various – £4M (27/07)
Laurito – 21 – Universidad Catolica – Celtic Journal – £1.8M
(27/07)
Guidetti – 21 – Man City – Celtic Journal – £5.3M (27/07)
Camilo – 25 – Vancouver Whitecaps – Celtic Journal – £650K
(27/07)
Mboyo – 26 – Gent – Celtic Journal – £4.5M (27/07)
Ibou – 26 – Oud-Heverlee Leuven – Celtic Journal – £1.5M
(27/07)
Borges – 25 – AIK Stockholm – Celtic Journal – £1.3M
(27/07)
Majeed Waris – 22 – Spartak Moscow – Celtic Journal – £2.2M
(27/07)
Wood – 21 – Leicester – Celtic Journal – £1.8M (27/07)
Benkarit – 18 – Borussia Dortmund – Celtic Journal – No fee
mentioned (27/07)
Rumoured transfer out:
———————-
Name Source Price
—-—— —–
Foster – Various– £6M to Southampton/Sunderland/Everton
Forrest – Talksport –£5M to Spurs
Wilson – Various – £1.5M to Notts Forest
Until next time… !
HH
/Bishop B
Dutch Football @football_oranje 51m
Ajax winger Derk Boerrigter on his way to Celtic for €3.5 million according to reports in Netherlands
Macca had two spells with us – that’s why he gets two mentions
twists
I still have that text you sent me. Thanks again. We must meet up.
Anyone know of CSC in Stirling ??
Wee man got a tournament next weekend
game on Sat I think around 1 oclock (need to confirm) finish arond 2:20
rather than come back to G74 might head straight to Paradise me and two 14 year olds
Covering all bases CSC
Electronic Tims @ ETimsNet 56s
Reading between the lines it appears we’ve agreed a fee of £3m for Ajax winger Derk Boerrigter. He’s 6ft 2, loads of pace & scores goals…
Shoots down the hunnish ‘horse’ post…