Johnston protests but doesn’t deny central charge

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There has been a pattern for me in recent days.  I’ve read a statement by a current/former football club director, then I’ve gone looking for corroboration, just in case the report is a sabotaged attempt to make the author appear foolish.

A statement was released by former Rangers chairman, Alastair Johnston yesterday, discussing the current SPL Commission looking into how his board administered football player contracts.  I agree with him that any “capital punishment decision” should not be left to the SPL, but the SPL have no authority to impose capital punishment on a football club.  The decision to terminate a football club can only be taken by the SFA (I am discounting the reckless behaviour of directors), and is perhaps a reason the SFA decided to delegate this inquiry to the league.  It is interesting timing for Johnston to put this on the table.

Johnston’s main thrust is in connection with the SPL Commission, saying “the SFA wrote to us asking for more details about the public speculation concerning our financial and tax situation. The latter obviously referenced the impact of the EBT schemes as creating a potential taxation liability.

“The club responded accordingly and provided details, as it had done in previous years, by declaring player salaries, bonuses, benefits, etc., but also payments made to a Remuneration Trust. The SFA compliance officers must have known, both from the description and context of the reports, that such expenditures had some connection to player compensation.

“However, without any further investigation at the time, Rangers FC received its SFA license to compete in the 2011/2012 season. Rangers, therefore, were entitled to believe that they were not in breach of any SFA regulation requiring reporting of player compensation.”

Mr Johnston clearly implies that the SFA were in receipt of sufficient information to ascertain if Rangers correctly registered players (and considering the SFA president was on the board which sanctioned these decision was have to wonder), but the key point is missing from his testimony.

While disclosing this information to the SFA did Rangers reveal the existence of the alleged second contracts?  For the purposes of the SPL Commission, it doesn’t really matter how much players were paid, or if they received this money through a Remuneration Trust, what matters is: were contracts submitted and players correctly registered?  If not, then it doesn’t matter what else the club submitted to the SFA.

Sir David Murray, then Rangers owner, vehemently denied the existence of second contracts as recently as March this year, so it would appear unlikely that Rangers revealed these allegedly non-existent contracts at an earlier date.

Labouring this point slightly Johnston said:  If the SFA now decide to adopt a more focused evaluation of the data they request from its members in order to be granted a license, they should ensure that the legislation upon which they rely for enforcement and the corresponding sanctions are more transparent and predictable.”

For clarity, the information the SFA requires in order to grant a club licence is not being changed in any way.  The SFA and the SPL do, however, require clubs submit player contracts as part of the player registration process.  It is not the club licence which is in doubt here, it is the registration of players, Mr Johnston, we have to wonder why you are trying to focus away from this matter.

Our own club was brought into the issue: “A lawyer representing Celtic recently was successful in having charges against that club dropped because of the inadequacy of the SFA’s prescribed rules, regulations, and sanctions. The same principle should apply here.”

Perhaps time is playing tricks on Mr Johnston’s memory.  Paul McBride ensured a punishment imposed on Neil Lennon (not Celtic) was enforced in line with SFA rules.  Johnston also meanders on the subjects of match fixing and financial doping, distancing his former club from both, but neither charge is of any consequence.

Despite his extensive diatribe on the subject, at no point does the former Rangers chairman deny the central allegation – that for over a decade Rangers gave dozens of players second contracts which were not registered with the SPL or SFA.  Like Charles Green the previous day, he never suggested Rangers have been wrongly accused, he just complains about the club being accused.

There is a degree in Cognitive Bias in this matter if anyone is looking for material.

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  1. Saint Stivs

     

    16:52 on

     

    12 September, 2012

     

    Justice for the 96.

     

     

    Everytime I see any programme on this, my heart sinks. The police treatment of supporters at the time, was disgusting, and ultimately led to the disaster.

     

     

    The night we were in Nottingham, was my own worst experience.

     

     

    On the road down we were stopped about 6am , outside the city, and kept with a number of other buses, near to a services location.

     

    Parked up were easily 40 Police mini vans , fully loaded, and scary with it, there was no banter with them, and everyone felt really uneasy during the wait.

     

     

    I was ticketless, and when we got there i walked from the town to Trent bridge, by chance an old glasgow guy who lived there, asked me if i was looking for a ticket, one which he had collected vouchers from the paper for. He gave me the ticket, wouldnt sell it, gave me it. I told him about the police.

     

    He told me he wasnt going to the match, as he fully expected major trouble.

     

    The police had been collected from all over, and he talked about the Miners situation, and how Police were getting practice in for what was to come.

     

     

    He warned me also not to walk about on my own, as there has been strong NF recruiting at Forest games, and someone would get hurt.

     

     

    I found out on the way home, a guy we knew from Greenock had been slashed very badly just outside the shopping centre, and his small group badly attacked.

     

     

    As daft as it seems i also got a 2nd ticket for the Celtic end this time from a car passing by full of glasgow bhoys with a spare. I passed on the forest one to another guy from our bus.

     

     

    At the town hall as well, late afternoon a real battle erupted when the celtic supporters were attacked by a big group of the NF.

     

    None of this was reported at home.

     

     

    At the match , aggresive policing was very evident. On the bitterly cold night , the police did the exact same thing, opening a gate at the Celtic end to relieve congestion outside. I was allready in the ground, but getting in had been horrible, and not because of bad behaviour or drunken fans, but because of a narrow corner of turnstiles with police on horses pressing fans against the walls.

     

     

    When they opened the gate, the allready congested pens of the terrace became overloaded very quick. I climbed the pylon, along with dozens of others, and felt truelly terrified, with all sorts of fears going through my head. The only thing that stopped it getting worse was the fence at the front, allthough high , was climable.

     

     

    A horrible horrible night.

     

     

    The English press did indeed report it as “crowd trouble”.

     

     

    see the pictures –

     

     

    http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/1983-11-23%3A+Nottingham+Forest+0-0+Celtic%2C+UEFA+Cup+-+Pictures

     

    cadizzy

  2. The Legend Johnny Doyle

     

    00:08 on

     

    13 September, 2012

     

    Iki

     

     

    My mum used to say that: “if i don’t stop smiling that she would wipe the smile to the other side of my face”?

     

     

    I never really understood that one but have always smiled on the left side of my face. _..)

     

     

    The Legend JD

     

     

    You’ve been watching An Audience With The Big Yin.

     

    & That’s a no brainer it means a slap on ones napper

     

    like with me, how was school today Son, oh the usual

     

    Maw, bloody liar we had the school board around today

     

    for bloody plonking it.

  3. Awe _Naw_No_Enrico

     

     

    The The

     

     

    What sort of music do they come under?

     

    Rock,Pop,Indie,Grunge,Rap,Punk, R&B, Blues,

     

    Etc-Etc

  4. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Akbw

     

     

    Indie … 1983 Matt Johnstone Jules Holland debut album. Henceforth Matt Johnstone solo vehicle.

     

     

    Beneath the old iron bridges, across the victorian parks, & all the frightened people running home before dark, Past the Saturday morning cinema–that lies crumbling to the ground, & the piss stinking shopping centre in the new side of town. I’ve come to smell the seasons change, & watch the city, as the sun goes down again.

     

     

    CHORUS Here comes another winter, of long shadows & high hopes, Here comes another winter, waitin for utopia, waitin for hell to freeze over.

     

     

    This is the land, where nothing changes, the land of red buses & blue blooded babies, This is the place, where pensioners are raped,

     

     

    & the hearts are being cut, from the welfare state, Let the poor drink the milk, while the rich eat the honey, Let the bums count their blessings, while they count the money.

     

     

    So many people, can’t express what’s on their minds, Nobody knows them & nobody ever will, Until their backs are broken & their dreams are stolen, & they can’t get what they want, then they’re gonna get angry! Well it ain’t written in the papers, but its written on the walls The way this country is divided to fall, So the cranes are moving on the skyline–Trying to knock down–this town But the stains on the heartland, can never be removed, from this country, that’s sick, sad, and confused.

     

     

    CHORUS

     

     

    The ammunition’s being passed, and the lords been praised, But the wars on the televisions will never be explained, All the bankers gettin sweaty, beneath their white collars, As the pound in our pocket, turns into a dollar.

     

     

    This is the 51st state–of the U. S. A. (Repeat and fade.)

     

     

    HH

  5. I know you’ve all been awaiting this eagerly…. Here is a link to the latest Carluke Shamrock podcast recorded on Monday night at the Scottish Civil Service CSC q&a in Edinburgh, with Tom English, Jane Lewis, Richard Wilsone and Chris McLaughlin.

     

     

    hh

     

     

    bjmac

  6. It looks like this is the end of the thread

     

    thanks for the banter and exchanges of opinions

     

    Good night everyone and God Bless

     

    YNWA Justice for The 96

     

    God Bless them all.

  7. Cool Awe-Naw_No_Enrico

     

     

    Jools Holland also played with the Squeeze I believe

     

    anyway he is a very good musician.

     

    & The The sound like a good Band.

  8. Yeah Moses was a very Cool Man who with the power of God

     

    lead the Israel-lites out of bondage slavery by the pharoes

     

    in Egypt back then re the first old Testament

  9. Though I walk in the valley of death I will fear no evil

     

    for the Lord is my true shepherd there is nothing I

     

    shall want he leads me and lays me by still peaceful

     

    water for I’m his clay and the Lord is my pottery maker

  10. Amen to that Awe_Naw

     

     

    It’s time for me to speak to our Lord and say good night

     

    sweet dreams and God Bless truly AKBW1888

  11. Awe_Naw_I had a tough day so it made me chuckle coming on here and seeing Pauls leader

     

     

    Alastair Johnston was the last person to ever interview me. And gave me the job

     

    I hasten to add it was in his previous tenure

  12. SAND CREEK MASSACRE (SE COLORADO).

     

     

    In 1864 Col Chivington (a former clergyman that had political ambitions) was appointed the territorial military commander in Colorado. After some isolated incidents with the Indians, Chivington sent out detachments to burn and destroy Indian villages, the Cheyenne, Arapahos, Sioux, Kiowa’s, and Comanches’s struck back. this give Chivington the opportunity that he was looking for, to launch a full scale attack on the Indians.

     

     

    On November 29, 1864, Chivington deployed his command, about seven hundred solders with howitzers around Black Kettle’s village on Sand Creek. Black Kettle was under the impression that he was at peace with the Americans; he ran up the American Flag and assured his people that all was well. the troops opened fire and charged. The Indians scattered in all directions. Chivington had made it clear that he wanted no prisoners, hie policy was “to kill and scalp all, little and big”. Nits make lice he was fond of saying. Interpreter John Smith later testified: they were scalped, their brains knocked out; the men used their knives, ripped open women, clubbed little children, knocked them in the head with their guns, beat their brains out, mutilated their bodies in every sense of the word. Two hundred Cheyenne’s, two thirds of them women and children perished. Nine chiefs died, however Chief Black Kettle escaped. (Only to be murdered later by Custer.)

  13. WOUNDED KNEE

     

    An Indian named American Horse, who had been friendly to the American troops for years gave this narrative of the slaughter at Wounded Knee:

     

     

    …they turned their guns, Hotchkiss guns upon the women who were in the lodges standing there under a flag of truce, and of course as soon as they were fired upon they fled…There was a women with an infant in her arms who was killed as she almost touched the flag of truce, and the women and children of course were strewn all along the circular village until they were dispatched. Right near the flag of truce a mother was shot down with her infant; the child not knowing that its mother was dead was still nursing, and that especially was a very sad sight. The women as they were fleeing with their babies were killed together, shot right through, and the women who were heavy with child were also killed…After most of them had been killed a cry was made that all those who were not killed or wounded should come forth and they would be safe. Little boys who were not wounded came out of their places of refuge, and as soon as they came in sight, a number of soldiers surrounded them and butchered them there… Of course it would have been alright if only the men were killed; we would feel almost grateful for it. But the fact of the killing of the women and more especially of the of the young boys and girls who are to go to make up the future of the Indian people, is the saddest part of the whole affair and we feel it very sorely.

     

     

    Shortly after the massacre, L. Frank Baum stated his approval, in the “Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer’s paper stating that: “we had better, in order to protect our civilization, follow it up and wipe these untamed and untamable creatures from the face of the earth.”

  14. NEW ENGLAND COLONY

     

    On May 26th 1635 in Connecticut, Captain John Mason with his Massachusetts-Connecticut force of ninty men and eighty Mohegans and 500 Narragansett Indians planned to attack the Pequot with the intent to completly wipe the town out. Mason and his militia struck in the predawn. Mason instructed his men to not take any prisoners. When the Mohegans and Narragansett found out about the no prisoner order they refused to participate and left. Thus left to his own devices, Mason ordered his miltiamen to set fire to the entire town, burning alive as many as 900 “women, children, and helpless old men. Those who tried to escape the blaze were cut down with swords and axes. As Plymouth Governor William Bradford later described the scene, paraphrasing Mason’s own exultant account:

     

     

    It was a fearful sight to see them thus frying in the fire and the streams of blood quenching the same, and horrible was the stink and scent thereof; but the victory seemed a sweet sacrifice, and they gave the praise thereof to God, who had wrought so wonderfully for them, thus to enclose their enemies in their hands and give them so speedy a victory over so proud and insulting an enemy.

     

     

    The new England Colony made the Virginia Colonists look like a group of saints. Indians normally fought out of revenge, to steal women or slaves, but very seldom slaughtered women and children and old men for land.

     

     

     

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    *References: Stannard, David E. “American Holocaust” 1992 Oxford University Press Inc.

  15. The Tuskeegee Syphilis Experiment

     

     

    Between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service conducted an experiment on nearly 400 African-Americans to see how the later stages of syphilis affects human beings. These people – mostly illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest sections of Alabama – were never told that they were being used as lab animals for this experiment and the doctors had no intention of curing them of the disease.

     

     

    The data was supposed to be collected from the autopsies of the men involved. Syphilis, in its advanced stages, can lead to tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. The study was meant to discover if syphilis affected black men differently than white men. The impoverished and uneducated people involved were told that they were being given free medical care and ended up being a part of the longest experiment in medical history. The experiment was finally revealed by Paul Buxton – an interviewer for the experiment. Congressional hearings were held that denounced the experiment. After it was over, 28 men had died from syphilis, 100 died from related complications, 40 of their wives had contacted the disease, and 19 of their children were infected by it.

     

     

    Penicillin was first used to cure syphilis in 1947 – twenty five years before the experiment ended.

     

     

     

    The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment

     

     

    The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.

     

     

    President Clinton’s apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997

  16. I still listen to The The. I still remember my days fighting Thatcher. We lost then. We will lose now if the maniacs absolutely plundering the ConDemNation get away with the strokes that even the wicked witch of the West could only fantasise about.

     

    When rickets is on the rise, when macjobs are being pimped to PhDs, when the glossy valium is poured over the heads of the disadvantaged as they sit in a poor diet torpor, as the libraries close while the pawnshops multiply, the masters of war give themselves a tax break of £47,000 minimum, everything is marginalised, our NHS is privatised by stealth, the disabled are castigated, the unemployed criminalised, are we free? To do what? Comply and acquiesce? And we have been taught that all we can do is look out for ourselves and our families. And we will be repeating that in ever more quiet desperation as the suicide numbers climb, and the harshest winter I can imagine is on the cards for many.

     

    One of the reasons RTC won The Orwell was because the judges said it accurately reflected society today. The ragers fiasco is a mirror of the twisted state of our society. It’s as if all morality is inverted.

     

    So, to throw Jabba’s words back in his fat face : enough is enough.

  17. Trail of Tears

     

     

    The Trail of Tears refers to the forced relocation in 1838, of the Cherokee Native American tribe to Indian Territory in what would be the state of Oklahoma, resulting in the deaths of an estimated 4,000 of the 15,000 Cherokees affected.[1] This was caused by the Indian Removal Act of 1830.

     

     

    The Cherokee Trail of Tears resulted from the enforcement of the Treaty of New Echota, an agreement signed under the provisions of the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which exchanged Native American land in the East for lands west of the Mississippi River, but which was never accepted by the elected tribal leadership or a majority of the Cherokee people. Nevertheless, the treaty was enforced by President Andrew Jackson, who sent federal troops to round up about 17,000 Cherokees in camps before being sent to the West. Most of the deaths occurred from disease in these camps. After the initial roundup, the U.S. military played a limited role in the journey itself, with the Cherokee Nation taking over supervision of most of the emigration.

     

     

    In the Cherokee language, the event is called nvnadaulatsvyi (“The Trail Where We Cried”). The Cherokees were not the only Native Americans forced to emigrate as a result of the Indian Removal efforts of the United States, and so the phrase “Trail of Tears” is sometimes used to refer to similar events endured by other Native peoples, especially among the “Five Civilized Tribes.” The phrase originated as a description of the earlier removal of the Choctaw nation, the first to march a “Trail of Tears.”

  18. “The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” –  George Orwell

     

     

  19. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    FC Barcelona will be without influential midfielder Andrés Iniesta for their UEFA Champions League Group G opener at home to FC Spartak Moskva on 19 September after the 28-year-old suffered an adductor muscle strain.

     

     

    Part of the Spain side that earned a 1-0 FIFA World Cup qualifying victory away to Georgia on Tuesday, Iniesta returned to his club complaining of discomfort in his right leg and following subsequent medical tests, was deemed unfit for action for up to 15 days. Meanwhile, another member of Spain’s victorious party, Jordi Alba, is also being monitored by club medics after the full-back presented with flu symptoms on his arrival back to Barça headquarters.

  20. Neil Lennon & McCartney on

    Vmhan,

     

     

    Aye, very good……..but will they miss him next week as much as we will oor greek hero?

  21. sixtaeseven: Supporting the Finest Team in Scotland on

    Morning all from gay Paree, ciel changeant mais pas de pluie (21C max alledgedly).

     

     

    Spin, spin, spin continues from the Herald Comics:

     

    “£272,000 boost for Rangers oldco”

     

    Payout from UEFA for the use of the club’s players during Euro 2012, the article explains…

     

     

    However, further on:

     

    “…the money belongs to oldco and is expected to go towards paying BDO”

     

     

    And, near the end of the article:

     

    “Nine other Scottish clubs received a windfall, with Celtic receiving more than £455,000…”

     

     

    How about a headline like:

     

    “UEFA Windfall for 9 Scottish Clubs and BDO” ?

     

     

    Gardez La Foi

  22. Whats latest on the injury front ?

     

     

    And long shot here have we any real estate agents on here in perth oz ?

     

     

    Getting place to live isnt easy

  23. Morning,

     

     

    Big Efe is some man, Messi? nae bother!

     

     

    “Lionel Messi is not a stranger to me

     

    because I was in Nigeria’s Under-23 team

     

    that played in the final against Argentina in

     

    the 2008 Olympics,” Ambrose told

     

    Goal.com .

     

    “I also played against him in our friendly

     

    match in Bangladesh last year. So he won’t

     

    pose many problems to me because I will

     

    do my best in marking him out when Celtic

     

    and Barcelona slug it out in the Champions

     

    League.

     

    “I have also told [Spartak’s] Emenike that he

     

    should watch out for me because I will give

     

    him a serious challenge when our teams

     

    meet.

     

    Ambrose expressed happiness at joining the

     

    Scottish giants and has promised to make

     

    the best use of his stay at the club.

     

    “I want to prove to Celtic that they can rely

     

    on me and the only way I can do so is to

     

    play well for the team and help them

     

    achieve both league and European

     

    competition success. At least that would

     

    send signals to Celtic fans that I have come

     

    there to help the team achieve success.

     

    “So I had to rush back to the club

     

    immediately after the Liberia match. Now I

     

    am in Israel to pack my luggage and travel

     

    with my wife and my new-born baby as we

     

    hope to be in Scotland this weekend and

     

    start a new life in Celtic.

     

    “My mission is to first adapt to the

     

    environment and the team’s philosophy on

     

    time. I need to adapt to the style of play,

     

    the weather, food and everything that is

     

    associated with the club.

     

    “I just have a couple of days before the

     

    Champions League but the league is on

     

    already. It is a pity time is not on my side

     

    but I am a very resolute and determined

     

    person so I believe I will cope.

     

    “I just have to go there and prove myself

     

    and justify my inclusion in the team as well

     

    as make the coach’s first-team list for all

     

    matches,” a determined Ambrose said.

  24. Morning all!

     

     

    Well done to Tony Watt on winning the SPL Young Player of the month award for August.

     

     

    HH!!

  25. Sun headline this morning

     

     

    ‘The Real Truth’

     

     

    To use part of a headline that caused so much hurt and pain is quite unbelievable.

     

     

    Scum paper, run by a heartless scum family.

  26. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    Wee Catriona looks as if she’s fallen of a Christmas tree.

     

     

    She never wears green.

     

     

    Is she a hun?

  27. Morning CQNer’s

     

     

     

    Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning!

     

     

    07:57 on 13 September, 2012

     

     

    Wee Catriona looks as if she’s fallen of a Christmas tree.

     

     

    She never wears green.

     

     

    Is she a hun?

     

    _______________________________________________________________

     

    Was thinking the same.

     

     

    Looked as though she was wearing a sash and an eastern star.

     

     

    As I’ve said on a few occasions – Celtic should ban BBC Scotland TV and Radio.

     

     

    BBC Scotland – Roon yez

  28. If Murdoch had any decency he would do to the S*n what he did to the NOTW – wind it up!

     

     

    Disgusting rag!

     

     

    HH!!