There has been a pattern for me in recent days. I’ve read a statement by a current/former football club director, then I’ve gone looking for corroboration, just in case the report is a sabotaged attempt to make the author appear foolish.
A statement was released by former Rangers chairman, Alastair Johnston yesterday, discussing the current SPL Commission looking into how his board administered football player contracts. I agree with him that any “capital punishment decision” should not be left to the SPL, but the SPL have no authority to impose capital punishment on a football club. The decision to terminate a football club can only be taken by the SFA (I am discounting the reckless behaviour of directors), and is perhaps a reason the SFA decided to delegate this inquiry to the league. It is interesting timing for Johnston to put this on the table.
Johnston’s main thrust is in connection with the SPL Commission, saying “the SFA wrote to us asking for more details about the public speculation concerning our financial and tax situation. The latter obviously referenced the impact of the EBT schemes as creating a potential taxation liability.
“The club responded accordingly and provided details, as it had done in previous years, by declaring player salaries, bonuses, benefits, etc., but also payments made to a Remuneration Trust. The SFA compliance officers must have known, both from the description and context of the reports, that such expenditures had some connection to player compensation.
“However, without any further investigation at the time, Rangers FC received its SFA license to compete in the 2011/2012 season. Rangers, therefore, were entitled to believe that they were not in breach of any SFA regulation requiring reporting of player compensation.”
Mr Johnston clearly implies that the SFA were in receipt of sufficient information to ascertain if Rangers correctly registered players (and considering the SFA president was on the board which sanctioned these decision was have to wonder), but the key point is missing from his testimony.
While disclosing this information to the SFA did Rangers reveal the existence of the alleged second contracts? For the purposes of the SPL Commission, it doesn’t really matter how much players were paid, or if they received this money through a Remuneration Trust, what matters is: were contracts submitted and players correctly registered? If not, then it doesn’t matter what else the club submitted to the SFA.
Sir David Murray, then Rangers owner, vehemently denied the existence of second contracts as recently as March this year, so it would appear unlikely that Rangers revealed these allegedly non-existent contracts at an earlier date.
Labouring this point slightly Johnston said: If the SFA now decide to adopt a more focused evaluation of the data they request from its members in order to be granted a license, they should ensure that the legislation upon which they rely for enforcement and the corresponding sanctions are more transparent and predictable.”
For clarity, the information the SFA requires in order to grant a club licence is not being changed in any way. The SFA and the SPL do, however, require clubs submit player contracts as part of the player registration process. It is not the club licence which is in doubt here, it is the registration of players, Mr Johnston, we have to wonder why you are trying to focus away from this matter.
Our own club was brought into the issue: “A lawyer representing Celtic recently was successful in having charges against that club dropped because of the inadequacy of the SFA’s prescribed rules, regulations, and sanctions. The same principle should apply here.”
Perhaps time is playing tricks on Mr Johnston’s memory. Paul McBride ensured a punishment imposed on Neil Lennon (not Celtic) was enforced in line with SFA rules. Johnston also meanders on the subjects of match fixing and financial doping, distancing his former club from both, but neither charge is of any consequence.
Despite his extensive diatribe on the subject, at no point does the former Rangers chairman deny the central allegation – that for over a decade Rangers gave dozens of players second contracts which were not registered with the SPL or SFA. Like Charles Green the previous day, he never suggested Rangers have been wrongly accused, he just complains about the club being accused.
There is a degree in Cognitive Bias in this matter if anyone is looking for material.
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istanbulcelt
i see you are working in an office in Turkiye, do you have a work permit or Kimlik card ?
!!!!!!!!!
Henry,
Although i live in Istanbul, i work in Algeria. I have a Turkish residence permit (expires next year so a long day at the police office in store). I also have a Turkish business, which i use to get paid through.
call me cynical but is it a coincidence that now that the FTT judgement has apparently been announced that the usual suspects are screeching to anyone who’ll listen about the infamous Juninho EBT.
for the avoidance of doubt (I’m sure Paul67 can correct me if wrong), Celtic declared this to the SPL and the relevant tax authorities and there is no case to answer yes?
and just saw bbc sportscotlands panel, is there a pundit in scotland who ISN’T a sevcovian?
Well said Dan, & God Bless Everyone who was affected by
said Disaster
Please Don’t buy the Sun
Will we see this headline in The Scum
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/377281_365748196834938_1693756323_n.jpg
When will all the liars be brought to justice in this dreadful tragedy
No 3rd kit this season – thought we’d ditched that horrific yellow and black thing for good…
===
@CelticFCShop is there going to be an international kit this year ?
Celtic FC Shop:
last seasons yellow/black kit will be worn in European games(DC)
it’s not the old ” i have a Turkish partner ” chesnut surely ?–)))))
Married!! ha ha
canamalar – how do you work that out, your average middle easterner is as fanatical is the isreali’, yet you can excuse isreali crimes. Hypocracy is obviously a foundation of you philosophy.
The Israelis are a great bunch of lads, like our Beram. I enjoyed my visit to their country very much. (thumbsup)
obonfanti1888 17:59
Exactly. Thommo has just tweeted that the SPL see no case for Celtic to answer re Juninho. i.e. it’s about undeclared double-contracts not about EBT.
This is the statement made by Boris on the drunken Liverpool fans, Johnson should resign for this terrible slur
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=379377168800128&set=a.160179124053268.41329.100001835441339&type=1&ref=nf
Oh and dont buy The Sun
Celticbhoy
17:55 on
12 September, 2012
Radio shortbread tonight has a panel of Jim Traynor Billy Dodds and Gordon Smith …. Oh well anything good on the telly?
Don’t even give them the Airwaves CelticBhoy they talk nothing but
crap
I had to laugh @ the David Spanner comment after the match last night
where he quoted ‘Oh this was like Groundhog Day’ I know Spanner
just wait until October in Belgium it’s going to be like Nightmare
In Brussels Street 2012 Adios To Rio also I don’t think that there will
be any favors handed out in ‘The Land of Our Fathers Either’ Oh
well they have got D3 to It No Our Fault But Everyone Else FC to
fall back on.
St.John.Doyle – He should resign over something he said 8 years ago, before he was elected to the job he holds today?
Eh?
(thumbsup)
Terrible, Terrible revelations …….. May God bless the dead victims and the relatives / friends who had to live with this great burden ……. words fail me, honestly …….. something needs to be done to ensure information of this nature is not suppressed for such a long time …… the Government are as much to blame as the rogue / cowardly liars involved in this truly shameful cover-up …….. Freedom of information is a sickening joke ……
AKBW1888
18:00 on
12 September, 2012
Well said Dan, & God Bless Everyone who was affected by
said Disaster
-___________________________________________________-
Can’t even begin to imagine what those poor families have lived through, bad enough for such a tragedy to befall a family, but then to accuse the victims of causing the tragedy and the subsequent lies and cover up afterwards is nothing short of a scandal of the highest order.
I would like to see those who were responsible taken to task and brought to justice, but I think it highly unlikely.
Dan
watching 6 o clock news..
justice at last…
the BBC are every bit to blame as Thatcher and the sun…
State run TV lied and should be brought to justice…
I,you pay this mob to tell lies…
*************REPOST RE: SPARE BENFICA TICKET****************
If anyone is interested in a ticket for the Befica home game next Wednesday it looks like I have a spare (NS 406 row S, unrestricted view on the halfway line). I bought the three match ST package for myself and my son (£20 concession) but he’s unable to go to the game.
I’ll be traveling down to Glasgow early next wed to go to the ticket office around 5PM to upgrade this to an adult ticket, hopefully make it easier to move on. For some obscure reason they want the ticket back and wont allow me to do the upgrade over the phone. So if anyone is interested let me know. First come first served.
Contact me at dcsltd @ btopenworld.com and we can make arrangements.
HH
I am incandescent with rage….
leaving the site now to calm down…
FourGreenFields
17:50 on
12 September, 2012
akbw1888
Talking of propaganda , what about this from STV website
The SPL statement read: “Oldco and Rangers FC, who are named in the issues contained in the notice of commission and alleged to have been in breach of SPL rules, will continue to have the right to appear and be represented at all hearings of the commission and to make such submissions as they think fit.
“Newco, as the current owner and operator of Rangers FC, although not alleged by the SPL to have committed any breach of SPL Rules, will also have the right to appear and be represented at all hearings of the commission and to make such submissions as it thinks fit.”
Desperately trying to make it look like just a change of owner , club still the same .
Yeah your right 4Green Fields they are still the same mob singing the same bile
& have the media which is no surprise in this Country dancing along but I can
see another storm on the horizon which will probably remove the wheels off of
said band wagon with we all know who disappearing over the horizon with
whatever he can get his hands on
It’s like an old tune named ‘It’s The Last Ride’
Followed by ‘Don’t We Ever Learn’
Some more Jelly & Ice Cream will soon to be floating around.
philvisreturns
18:10 on 12 September, 2012
”St.John.Doyle – He should resign over something he said 8 years ago, before he was elected to the job he holds today?”
These things are all in the past and while it was all very regrettable, we can’t change what happened, people have issued apologies, so it’s best that we just draw a line under everything and get on with our lives.
That’s going to be the line on stripping of titles isn’t it?
Dan
18:12 on
12 September, 2012
AKBW1888
18:00 on
12 September, 2012
Well said Dan, & God Bless Everyone who was affected by
said Disaster
-___________________________________________________-
Can’t even begin to imagine what those poor families have lived through, bad enough for such a tragedy to befall a family, but then to accuse the victims of causing the tragedy and the subsequent lies and cover up afterwards is nothing short of a scandal of the highest order.
I would like to see those who were responsible taken to task and brought to justice, but I think it highly unlikely.
Dan
Your right Dan, those responsible for said disaster should certainly be brought
to task although your right it is highly unlikely just like Bloody Sunday
Long over due apologies but nothing else done about said disasters
which is very sad indeed
Italiabhoy….
Be Aware……
Canamalar was the wee daft guy in your Primary Class that the Teacher would stick in one of the far corners….
Every class had one….
They generally ran everywhere….
Zig-Zaggin’ aboot the Playground…
Muttering ‘Pure Gibberish’….
When Bold Canamalar wasn’t being disruptive in class….or banging his head against the wall like ‘Woody Woodpecker’
in the Cartoon Funnies…..
You JUST KNEW he was up to NO GOOD..
Generally inserting Cuisenere Rods (Colour- Coded)….into the various available orifices…
Going for a World Record Units Total….
The Big Huge Plug O’ Plasticine ?…
He saved that to dam-up the ‘Primary Outflow Tract’……..
Right…? Right…!
(ThumbsUp?)
The 96
You’ll Never Walk Alone
BroonSauce
God help us if we have Celtic supporters who believe like that ..o(
SPL on Juninho EBT, seems pretty clear!
If anyone has any evidence that any SPL Rule has been broken by any club in relation to the use of EBTs, they should pass that evidence to the SPL or to the Scottish FA so that their claims may be investigated.
“Separately, we have seen reports regarding an EBT in relation to a former player of Celtic FC. The SPL has investigated the arrangements and documentation in that case and has determined that there is no evidence of any breach of SPL Rules. The SPL has therefore decided that no further action should be taken.”
I’ve also, like everyone, been watching the latest Hillsborough revelations with shock and disgust. I’ve always suspected that the police covered things up but some of the new information takes the breath away. Alcohol blood tests on dead children? Just so they could lay the blame on the dead? Beyond the pale.
As for McKenzie and The Sun I never buy it anyway but I would urge those that still do to stop funding their filth.
JFT96
BroonSauce
18:28 on
12 September, 2012
The 96
You’ll Never Walk Alone
BroonSauce
Your damn tooting BroonSauce
ernie lynch – Yes, good analogy.
A politician expressing a boneheaded opinion 8 years ago about an incident 15 years prior to that, an incident that he had nothing in the slightest to do with, is exactly like a football club cheating its way to titles.
Well argued, sir.
You’re not a stupid man, Ernie, but when it comes to the Tories your hatred temporarily chops off about 20 IQ points. (thumbsup)
sea cucumber,
difference being I grew out of it, you appear to have developed into it.
italiabhoy,
still waiting, or were you telling lies and offered everything you know already
On the news tonight Celtic have been cleared of any wrong doing over the EBT for Juninho so that ends that old chestnut. H.H.
Joe Filippis Haircut – On the news tonight Celtic have been cleared of any wrong doing over the EBT for Juninho so that ends that old chestnut. H.H.
Timmy’s hidden hand again. FACT! >:-(
(thumbsup)
So after 23 years the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is finally out in the open about what REALLY happened at Hillsborough. A truth that was known from the very beginning – from Maggie Thatcher right down to PC Plod in Sheffield.
A disaster caused by an incompetent police force and an incompetent match commander, who were totally ill-equiped to deal with the situation.
This was then followed by a cover-up and the altering of statements, with the collusion of a local MP, a Sheffield based news agency and a rag of a national ‘newspaper’ who’s editor makes certain hacks in the Scottish msm look like Pulitzer prize-winners.
Justice at last for the 96 – but it wont bring them back – and a certain closure for their grieving families.
RIP.
HH!!
JFT 96
Quote from Trevor Hicks, victims’ father.
“The truth is out today and the justice starts tomorrow.We intend to follow every avenue, and that is everything from prosecution through to changing for unlawful verdicts and every other avenue that we feel totally vindicated now this report has put the truth in our domain.”
Dan
A ceiler gonof rust
I”ve e-mailed you.
HH
philvisreturns
18:32 on 12 September, 2012
The basis on how he came to form an opinion on this matter, an opinion he was so sure of that he was happy to make it public, suggests his judgement is so impaired that he’s not fit to hold public office.
ernie..,
he also made the statement knowing the result of the Taylor report
Re the BBC report that the FTT will deliver results in October… Got me thinking that a few weeks ago that idiot Leggat posted a blog telling all H*n fans to circle Oct 22 in their diaries. This day would bring great good news to Orc fans.
Coincidence or does he know something we all don’t want to hear?
philvisreturns
18:10 on
12 September, 2012
St.John.Doyle – He should resign over something he said 8 years ago, before he was elected to the job he holds today?
Eh?
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I do not agree with your point Boris Johnson should resign as it was his lack of judgement in printing a report that repeated lies and fiction about innocent families and slur to a great people in a City similar to our own.
His statement 8 years ago is typical of him in his lack of research or balance on a subject he was commenting on, he is a buffoon and his comments were wrong and ill-advised.
When you get a subject so badly wrong you are not fit to hold public office, I know you are a Tory but this is not Party political BJ should resign, and I think David Cameron will be happy to use this against him, so it will not just be Labour supporters like me calling for him to resign.
ernie lynch – The basis on how he came to form an opinion on this matter, an opinion he was so sure of that he was happy to make it public, suggests his judgement is so impaired that he’s not fit to hold public office.
You may very well think that.
The majority of London voters didn’t agree with you at the last election though.
As we know Ernest, most people who seek public office are unfit to hold it.(thumbsup)
It’s sometimes difficult now in the era of the Murdoch-spawned EPL circus and attendant media fawning over all things football to remember how much of a social pariah the average football fan was in the mid-1980s.
The Taylor Report correctly noted that years of hooliganism had conditioned Police into seeing their role at football games as that of preventative containment, not that of crowd safety.
Think I’m right in saying that the choice of the smaller Leppings Lane end for the Liverpool support was made by the SYP who were concerned that the travelling fans of Forest and Liverpool would have ‘crossed paths’ in their city had they been allocated the larger terrace at the other end.
“Get them in to your city, herd them to their holding pens, lock them in, and then reverse the process after 90 minutes.”
A truly lamentable state of affairs.
Now even in the days of all-seater stadia we still seem to live under the shadow of Hillsborough. An over-compensatory H&S culture has lead many local authorities to view standing in a seated area and lateral movement therein as dangerous manoeuvres.
Maybe today’s quite shocking revelations will eventually help those who lost loved ones to find some peace and solace.
As the MP quoted above says, it could have happened to fans of any team in any city.
Hail, hail
blantyretim
18:17 on
12 September, 2012
watching 6 o clock news..
justice at last…
the BBC are every bit to blame as Thatcher and the sun…
State run TV lied and should be brought to justice…
I,you pay this mob to tell lies…
Blantyre Tim, Unfortunately most of the media stories are manipulated
and are full of lies it’s like picking up a Newspaper reading through it
and deciding which stories are true and the rest bullshit probably
you’ll find about 5% of it’s content true the other 95% bullshit it’s
the World we live in nowadays where they hope you will believe
and the truth to them remains uncovered