There has been a pattern for me in recent days. I’ve read a statement by a current/former football club director, then I’ve gone looking for corroboration, just in case the report is a sabotaged attempt to make the author appear foolish.
A statement was released by former Rangers chairman, Alastair Johnston yesterday, discussing the current SPL Commission looking into how his board administered football player contracts. I agree with him that any “capital punishment decision” should not be left to the SPL, but the SPL have no authority to impose capital punishment on a football club. The decision to terminate a football club can only be taken by the SFA (I am discounting the reckless behaviour of directors), and is perhaps a reason the SFA decided to delegate this inquiry to the league. It is interesting timing for Johnston to put this on the table.
Johnston’s main thrust is in connection with the SPL Commission, saying “the SFA wrote to us asking for more details about the public speculation concerning our financial and tax situation. The latter obviously referenced the impact of the EBT schemes as creating a potential taxation liability.
“The club responded accordingly and provided details, as it had done in previous years, by declaring player salaries, bonuses, benefits, etc., but also payments made to a Remuneration Trust. The SFA compliance officers must have known, both from the description and context of the reports, that such expenditures had some connection to player compensation.
“However, without any further investigation at the time, Rangers FC received its SFA license to compete in the 2011/2012 season. Rangers, therefore, were entitled to believe that they were not in breach of any SFA regulation requiring reporting of player compensation.”
Mr Johnston clearly implies that the SFA were in receipt of sufficient information to ascertain if Rangers correctly registered players (and considering the SFA president was on the board which sanctioned these decision was have to wonder), but the key point is missing from his testimony.
While disclosing this information to the SFA did Rangers reveal the existence of the alleged second contracts? For the purposes of the SPL Commission, it doesn’t really matter how much players were paid, or if they received this money through a Remuneration Trust, what matters is: were contracts submitted and players correctly registered? If not, then it doesn’t matter what else the club submitted to the SFA.
Sir David Murray, then Rangers owner, vehemently denied the existence of second contracts as recently as March this year, so it would appear unlikely that Rangers revealed these allegedly non-existent contracts at an earlier date.
Labouring this point slightly Johnston said: If the SFA now decide to adopt a more focused evaluation of the data they request from its members in order to be granted a license, they should ensure that the legislation upon which they rely for enforcement and the corresponding sanctions are more transparent and predictable.”
For clarity, the information the SFA requires in order to grant a club licence is not being changed in any way. The SFA and the SPL do, however, require clubs submit player contracts as part of the player registration process. It is not the club licence which is in doubt here, it is the registration of players, Mr Johnston, we have to wonder why you are trying to focus away from this matter.
Our own club was brought into the issue: “A lawyer representing Celtic recently was successful in having charges against that club dropped because of the inadequacy of the SFA’s prescribed rules, regulations, and sanctions. The same principle should apply here.”
Perhaps time is playing tricks on Mr Johnston’s memory. Paul McBride ensured a punishment imposed on Neil Lennon (not Celtic) was enforced in line with SFA rules. Johnston also meanders on the subjects of match fixing and financial doping, distancing his former club from both, but neither charge is of any consequence.
Despite his extensive diatribe on the subject, at no point does the former Rangers chairman deny the central allegation – that for over a decade Rangers gave dozens of players second contracts which were not registered with the SPL or SFA. Like Charles Green the previous day, he never suggested Rangers have been wrongly accused, he just complains about the club being accused.
There is a degree in Cognitive Bias in this matter if anyone is looking for material.
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VP-Nearly…….though a Layzeebhoy armchair would do…..
Ten Men Won The League
18:58 on
12 September, 2012
An expensive lesson learned by Master Rogne
matt mcglone @MattMcGlone9
Celtic players are warned when they go on international not to talk to press about internal club business. Rogne 2dy is 1 wks wages lighter
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Well Ten Men, Rogne will have to learn to keep his gums closed
it’s an expensive lesson but he was pre-warned after all what
financial gain is there to be made with talking to the parasites
nothing the middle of a round polo mint so what’s the sense
If I was young Rogne I would inform them sorry no can do
go and sling your bias and shit stirring hook else where although
that’s just me a polite way is two words ‘No Comment’
MWD if you are about I have been out all day. Will email you by Friday regarding the bike ride.
Cheers
See all these statements? why?muddy waters. Guilty participants. end of
tomtheleedstim
19:29 on
12 September, 2012
MWD if you are about I have been out all day. Will email you by Friday regarding the bike ride.
Cheers
Voguepunter has a Chopper mate…
Even Dennis Skinner….The Beast of Bolsover….is very old now.
Practically all that is left are suits….they are made of dark material…but the people inside? Their minds are beige. Or crimson if you put Gauleiter Duncan Smith in the frame.
In the dock is where that mad tart needs to be.
I give up. Off to rest.
what does McGlone know?
I could tweet that and it would be as believable as McGlone..
Dan, tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. Just look at the media and sevco.
I can remember exiting the old Celtic end, down the ash path, and it was like a Spanish bull run. As stated it could have happened at any club at that time.
Great words from Steve Rotherham, they have really resonated and refrshed my mind. I will get my 15yo son to read them, just to get an idea that not everything is as it seems.
Thanks again.
if I knew how to tweet..
or could be arsenaled to tweet
THE EXILED TIM
19:24 on
12 September, 2012
AKBW1888
Spain is a big country, just the other side of the mountains from me, they grow citrus fruit, not possible where I am.
Seriously hot for months in the summer, seriously cold for a few weeks in the winter.
Well Exile I hope it’s not too Hot while I’m there although when I was over in County
Alicante in November 2009 it was 23c Every Day & 15c during the Evening which
is like an odd cool day over here
That suits me just fine, when it’s around 30c that is very warm and when I was there
in July 2010 it was 37c which is very hot indeed
I was sweating buckets back then, phew would someone please roll down the window
Air Con on in the Apartment @ full blast
It was even in the nineties through the night, where is that Freezer Box that I can
sleep in
miki67
19:27 on
12 September, 2012
I’ve just turned off the telly in disgust. Even Ch4 news spouts half-truths these days…..outright lies as well.
Not about Hillsborough……NO ONE can lie about that any more….but that fake Hisum and the report on Libya. Jeezo….
They just don’t care any more. We’re expected to sit, like morons, and digest pap.
Nah.
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I agree, if only the content was like the fictional news programme in the Sky drama “The Newsroom” Very much enjoying this and it’s what the news should be like. Truthful, intelligent and dealing with important and relevant events. It’s very cleverly written, it exposes the extreme right wing of American politics and highlights how dangerous they are. IMO of course.
Dan
Saint Stivs,
I had a very similar experience in Nottingham it was a horrible trip.
Freezing,unfriendly place and horrible policing,I must have been near
you I was in touching distance of the pylon before crowd pressure
forced me away.
I’ve not checked the exact date so probably looking through tinted glasses
but as I remember we played well,I think I was 17 or 18 at the time.
The exiled tim.
More fool them and lots more entertainment for us.
Thanks for the info.hh
Juninho and Celtic: I understand the
EBT money paid he got wasn’t
declared to SPL as per SFA rule
12.3. So why ‘no case to answer’ ? AlexThomson
Juninho was a Celtic player for 7 months and played a handful of games. It would be hard to mount a case against Celtic.
Seanpat
Re Barcelona, my advice would be to stay in the centre of town rather than out near the stadium which is about 5km out.
Whilst there are lots of good hotels out there, you are a wee bit away from the city centre though the transport system is good for taking you in and out.
I would look for a hotel anywhere around the Plaza Catalonia at the top of La Ramblas–I have stayed in the Petit Palace and the Eurostars Crystal Palace and both were excellent.
The Eurostars chain provides very comfortable rooms at reasonable prices so check their website.
Also there are a number of hotels in and around Via Roger de Liguria which is a good area generally.
I would avoid the bottom of the Ramblas and Raval area personally.
Don’t get a hotel above the Diagonal as that will leave you a walk.
The train goes staright in from the airport so it is dead easy to get in and out of the city centre.
Hope that helps.
AKBW1888
It is still high 30s here just now, july and august was high 40s every day, some days well into the 50s.
In the winter, hits -15 -20 , hence no citrus fruit.
Over on the coast it’s much more constant, never too hot, never a frost.
Enjoy your hols.
BRTH 1943
disappointed..
managed to read your post in one sitting..p))
keep up the good work
A curious thing about Barcelona is that all the taxi drivers support Real Madrid.
Driving home from work I listened to Talksport’s phone in regarding the results of the inquiry into Hillsborough.
I must confess to shedding a tear listening to the man whose best friend was crushed to death that fateful day.
I also welled up, though with anger this time, upon hearing the pitiful attempt by McKenzie to finally apologise for the lies and defamation which he has perpetuated for years. The pity is that under the guise of newspaper editor he will never be suitably punished for his horrific ramblings.
I was at college down near Dumfries that day and remember watching events unfold in Sheffield from the first time that the cameras went there to report on ‘trouble’.
Any football supporter who’d ever stood on a packed terracing would have realised from the initial pictures that this wasn’t hooliganism, it was something much, much worse.
We would also have realised very quickly that those terrifying pictures could have been beamed in from many stadiums on regular occasions.
Today, listening to the anguish of the families and friends of those who perished, I remembered the games that I’d been at when I had real, genuine concern for my own well-being and safety as a consequence of the same scenario that led to Hillsborough.
For the grace of God I always went home.
On that day 23 years ago 96 ordinary football supporters weren’t so fortunate.
The families now have the truth, justice must follow.
Dan-The Newsroom is excellent.
It is truly sad and confusing (apart from the fact I may be starting to feel my age) when fiction has more veracity about it than the reality we are expected to believe via the visual valium.
The wannabe huns(Green Brigade) getting it tight from Strathclydes finest.
‘Every week supporters in section BF1
are subjected to full body searches at
turnstyles, every flag and banner being
filmed before being allowed entry,
intimidation inside and outside the
stadium from stewards and Police as
well as being filmed for 90 minutes by
the anti-football unit of the police
whilst individuals inside the club give
details of our members to Police to add
to their intelligence database. All this for
daring to turn up and support our team.
Recently, supporters in section BF1
have also been told by Police to hold
their season ticket up to a camera and
state their name and address. Mr Martin
didn’t see any issue with this and
assumes it’s all in the interest of
pursuing criminal investigations. This is
of course is absolute nonsense. As
David Martin interestingly informed us
this week, there is more arrests and
evictions in other areas of the stadium
on a match day than in Section BF1. It’s
blatant intimidation of football
supporters. ‘
THE EXILED TIM
19:44 on
12 September, 2012
AKBW1888
It is still high 30s here just now, july and august was high 40s every day, some days well into the 50s.
In the winter, hits -15 -20 , hence no citrus fruit.
Over on the coast it’s much more constant, never too hot, never a frost.
Enjoy your hols.
Cheers Exile cool, I always do enjoy Spain it’s a fair size hot Country
gees into the fifties are you sure about that because 45c is one hundred
and twenty degrees 50c would be around one hundred and thirty degrees
gees @ that temp one would have to move in beside the fish in the sea
to stay cool
Leabrannagh
19:35 on
12 September, 2012
Dan, tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth. Just look at the media and sevco.
I can remember exiting the old Celtic end, down the ash path, and it was like a Spanish bull run. As stated it could have happened at any club at that time.
Great words from Steve Rotherham, they have really resonated and refrshed my mind. I will get my 15yo son to read them, just to get an idea that not everything is as it seems.
Thanks again.
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Your welcome. The two scariest places for me was entering Tynecastle in the late 70’s early 80’s, very narrow and dangerous at the turn-styles. Also Brockville always seemed a very cramped and dangerous ground as well. A few scary moments at both these venues in the past. There but for the grace of god. And as some of the guys have mentioned above, crushing at the Nottingham Forest game. I am sure lots of the guys on here will remember much worse than I have experienced, but that’s what it was like in those days.
That’s good getting your son to read the transcript. Educating him in the truth is good to hear. As you say, if you tell a lie enough times it becomes the truth. Good to spread the truth.
Dan
….surely “Stoneface” is involved……….
asonofdan
19:53 on
12 September, 2012
THAT says it all …… What a shower of fuds they really are …….. And the media are still trying to ‘protect’ them………
I’m sure, I have a digital and a normal thermomiter, both read as near as damit the same.
The car reads a couple of degrees less for some reason, cheap German motor them BMW’s.
!!Bada Bing!!
19:51 on
12 September, 2012
Dan-The Newsroom is excellent.
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Very much enjoying it. From the writers of “The West Wing”, (Aaron Sorkin) another one of my all time favourites.
Dan
Bada Bing – hmmmmmmm.
hamiltontim
19:50 on
12 September, 2012
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Spot on I was watching the live coverage of the vigil from Liverpool with my wife who was an old LFC season ticket holder, with more than 1 tear in my eye.
I remember the day well as my first child was due to be born that day and I was unusually in the house (typical of my boy he was a week late) waiting for something to happen as a first time father.
I well remember a number of close shaves Janefield St. after the Huns game when the Police charged at us on horses and in vans, but the time I felt we came close to a disaster was at Nottingham Forrest in our Euro away match, similar to Hillsborough the Police opened a gate and let 1000s of fans enter in an uncontrolled way.Scared me on that occasion.
I am proud of the bond our club forged with the people of Liverpool and helped them through the darkest of times.Celtic helped them to believe football was something worth attending again and they have never forgot our support.
Oh and Don’t buy the Sun
Boycott all their publications please
Sky Atlantic I do not have. I am a Virgin……..
customer….I like a good boxset or two with a fine water based drink.
My olympic drinking days are mere memories….the ones I remember,anyway.
I see YouTube have pulled the offensive video from the US that slated Mohammed.
Dangerous precedent IMO. Is YouTube now censored?
What is the criteria to get censored?
Do they only take this recourse when it is pertinent to Islam?
New Phil mac blog.hh
ASonOfDan
19:53 on
12 September, 2012
The wannabe huns(Green Brigade) getting it tight from Strathclydes finest.
‘Every week supporters in section BF1
are subjected to full body searches at
turnstyles, every flag and banner being
filmed before being allowed entry,
intimidation inside and outside the
stadium from stewards and Police as
well as being filmed for 90 minutes by
the anti-football unit of the police
whilst individuals inside the club give
details of our members to Police to add
to their intelligence database. All this for
daring to turn up and support our team.
Recently, supporters in section BF1
have also been told by Police to hold
their season ticket up to a camera and
state their name and address. Mr Martin
didn’t see any issue with this and
assumes it’s all in the interest of
pursuing criminal investigations. This is
of course is absolute nonsense. As
David Martin interestingly informed us
this week, there is more arrests and
evictions in other areas of the stadium
on a match day than in Section BF1. It’s
blatant intimidation of football
supporters. ‘
Is that true Son of Dan?
If so, maybe the police are trying to cross reference said photo’s
with the ones who where rioting down in Manchester 2008 to
see if they come up trumps with a conviction put it this way
there must be a reason for this task being carried out although
it’s not unusual for the police to film football supporters I have
noticed the same thing going on for example @ Pittodrie in
the past when watching the Hoops play their
Is it possible to burn The Sun?
Thanks for the heads up guys, went online and right enough not that many reasonable prices available so didn’t spend much time but booked 4 star Hotel Sants double room £179 for two nights next to a station so transport should be ok.
Hail Hail
Pat
miki67
20:13 on
12 September, 2012
Is it possible to burn The Sun?
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I know the old saying about certain waste materials not being flammable but in the case of the Sun it is well worth a try
miki67
Scatman? Brill man!!!