There has been a pattern for me in recent days. I’ve read a statement by a current/former football club director, then I’ve gone looking for corroboration, just in case the report is a sabotaged attempt to make the author appear foolish.
A statement was released by former Rangers chairman, Alastair Johnston yesterday, discussing the current SPL Commission looking into how his board administered football player contracts. I agree with him that any “capital punishment decision” should not be left to the SPL, but the SPL have no authority to impose capital punishment on a football club. The decision to terminate a football club can only be taken by the SFA (I am discounting the reckless behaviour of directors), and is perhaps a reason the SFA decided to delegate this inquiry to the league. It is interesting timing for Johnston to put this on the table.
Johnston’s main thrust is in connection with the SPL Commission, saying “the SFA wrote to us asking for more details about the public speculation concerning our financial and tax situation. The latter obviously referenced the impact of the EBT schemes as creating a potential taxation liability.
“The club responded accordingly and provided details, as it had done in previous years, by declaring player salaries, bonuses, benefits, etc., but also payments made to a Remuneration Trust. The SFA compliance officers must have known, both from the description and context of the reports, that such expenditures had some connection to player compensation.
“However, without any further investigation at the time, Rangers FC received its SFA license to compete in the 2011/2012 season. Rangers, therefore, were entitled to believe that they were not in breach of any SFA regulation requiring reporting of player compensation.”
Mr Johnston clearly implies that the SFA were in receipt of sufficient information to ascertain if Rangers correctly registered players (and considering the SFA president was on the board which sanctioned these decision was have to wonder), but the key point is missing from his testimony.
While disclosing this information to the SFA did Rangers reveal the existence of the alleged second contracts? For the purposes of the SPL Commission, it doesn’t really matter how much players were paid, or if they received this money through a Remuneration Trust, what matters is: were contracts submitted and players correctly registered? If not, then it doesn’t matter what else the club submitted to the SFA.
Sir David Murray, then Rangers owner, vehemently denied the existence of second contracts as recently as March this year, so it would appear unlikely that Rangers revealed these allegedly non-existent contracts at an earlier date.
Labouring this point slightly Johnston said: If the SFA now decide to adopt a more focused evaluation of the data they request from its members in order to be granted a license, they should ensure that the legislation upon which they rely for enforcement and the corresponding sanctions are more transparent and predictable.”
For clarity, the information the SFA requires in order to grant a club licence is not being changed in any way. The SFA and the SPL do, however, require clubs submit player contracts as part of the player registration process. It is not the club licence which is in doubt here, it is the registration of players, Mr Johnston, we have to wonder why you are trying to focus away from this matter.
Our own club was brought into the issue: “A lawyer representing Celtic recently was successful in having charges against that club dropped because of the inadequacy of the SFA’s prescribed rules, regulations, and sanctions. The same principle should apply here.”
Perhaps time is playing tricks on Mr Johnston’s memory. Paul McBride ensured a punishment imposed on Neil Lennon (not Celtic) was enforced in line with SFA rules. Johnston also meanders on the subjects of match fixing and financial doping, distancing his former club from both, but neither charge is of any consequence.
Despite his extensive diatribe on the subject, at no point does the former Rangers chairman deny the central allegation – that for over a decade Rangers gave dozens of players second contracts which were not registered with the SPL or SFA. Like Charles Green the previous day, he never suggested Rangers have been wrongly accused, he just complains about the club being accused.
There is a degree in Cognitive Bias in this matter if anyone is looking for material.
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Worth a read Bhoys and Ghirls, message from a Liverpool fan…
Maria Mac @HectorsHoose
A message from a Liverpool fan to be passed on to Celtic supporters From an email sent to a Celtic http://tl.gd/j8van6 via @Cybertims
Retweeted by Owen
Celtic have been cleared by football
authorities of breaching rules
through using an offshore tax
avoidance scheme to pay a player.
The Glasgow club responded to a
request from the Scottish Premier
League for information on whether they,
or any other club, had used employee
benefit trusts (EBTs) to pay wages.
This came after the SPL launched an
investigation into the widespread use of
EBTs at Rangers to pay players between
2000 and 2010. An independent
commission is considering whether the
Ibrox club had fielded ineligible players
by paying them through the trusts.
Celtic are believed to have used the
trust to make payments to Brazilian
midfielder Juninho in 2005.
The scheme is listed in the club’s annual
accounts for 2005-2006 where it was
noted that £765,000 was paid into the
trust by Celtic.
A statement from the SPL on
Wednesday read: “We have seen
reports regarding an EBT in relation to a
former player of Celtic FC.
“The SPL has investigated the
arrangements and documentation in
that case and has determined that there
is no evidence of any breach of SPL
Rules. The SPL has therefore decided
that no further action should be taken.”
Jimmci 18:46
That’s the day his giro comes in.
St.John.Doyle – I don’t think it’s going to be an issue for him in London.
Most people in London seem to not to think too much about stuff that happens “up north”.
Obviously if he was an elected official in Liverpool they’d tar and feather him. (thumbsup)
a ceiler gonof rust
There was someone on here at the weekend who was looking for parent + child tickets. I’m hoping to sell my ticket for the game so perhaps between the 3 of us we can work something out.
I’ll email you too.
S
The picture from starry ploughs 18:49 on 12 September, 2012 post
http://www.imghack.se/69393
YNWA
Huns on rm are losing it.
Someone using Jake as his moniker posted todays article in the herald on their bigoted bears den site.
Not for the first time he’s had them spitting blood:-)) hail hail.
An expensive lesson learned by Master Rogne
matt mcglone @MattMcGlone9
Celtic players are warned when they go on international not to talk to press about internal club business. Rogne 2dy is 1 wks wages lighter
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I have memories of celtic fans presenting the liverpool fans with the above banner but cant find it anywhere.
leftclicktic
A tear in the Starry Eye..
Truly humbling…
AKBW1888
we choose to buy Sky/Vitgin..
We are made pay for the BBC
virgin even… hoooops
I know it’s maybe a bit early but would appreciate any info on tickets and decent hotels for Barca game on 23rd October.
sipsini
Yer man Jake has a couple of thousand posts, but they see him as a Tim.
He seems to tell them the truth, and they really don’t like it.
A bit like Phil, he told them what was happening, but they all thought it was lies, they should have listened, glad they didn’t, or they just might have been able to do something.
SP-Thanks for posting that ,the power that supporters can give each other.
Dan, many many thanks for that.
jimmci
18:46 on
12 September, 2012
Re the BBC report that the FTT will deliver results in October… Got me thinking that a few weeks ago that idiot Leggat posted a blog telling all H*n fans to circle Oct 22 in their diaries. This day would bring great good news to Orc fans.
Coincidence or does he know something we all don’t want to hear?
jimmci, that Bill Leggat is nothing but a H*n
When I was googling the other day there looking for Phil’s
new book I happened to stumble across his H*n midden
spiel web-site where he was preaching to his converted
with spit’l coming out of his gob shite directed against us
Wishful thinking on his part if he is under the impression
that they are out of the woods and scot free in which
case they are just another accident waiting to happen
which will bury them once and for all mark my words
there days are numbered one way or another
they should not be allowed to get away with grand larceny
if so, then what type of message is that sending out to
everyone else yeah that it’s okay to seriously rip of the
State and put the two fingers up after doing so
Also, financially they are not a viable product so it’s
only a matter of time before there said new bubble
burst’s once and for all
Looks like Alex Thomson doesn’t understand the different scenarios
alex thomson @alextomo
Juninho and Celtic: I understand the EBT money paid he got wasn’t declared to SPL as per SFA rule 12.3. So why ‘no case to answer’ ?
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seanpat
I think you will find most of the cheaper hotels in Barca are sold out on that date.
I struggled to find one a couple of days after the date was announed, try the budgetplaces.com advert at the bottom of the blog, I got a room there for just over 30 euros.
Not the ritz, but the cheapest others were well over 150 for the night.
Tet
I am sure the dearer hotels have also been booked…
well, so oldtim assures me o))
Heartfelt thanks to the power of CQN:-)
BT
They probably are, it was over a week ago I was trying.
The room I have is a hostal kind of thing, clean and own room, there are shared rooms for 25 euros, but they are running out I understand, all depends on what’s wanted.
shady
18:54 on
12 September, 2012
a ceiler gonof rust
There was someone on here at the weekend who was looking for parent + child tickets. I’m hoping to sell my ticket for the game so perhaps between the 3 of us we can work something out.
I’ll email you too.
………………………………….
Shady, I can put you in touch with the second guy who mailed me. I’ll drop you a mail in a moment and cc him on it.
You can then sort somethig out.
HH
South Of Tunis
14:06 on 12 September, 2012
I have never known a polisman to lie in court :)
Pinnochiocsc
Leabrannagh
19:04 on
12 September, 2012
Dan, many many thanks for that.
Your welcome, I remember reading Steve Rotherham’s statement last year and could not believe the extent of the lies and the cover up. Sad to say I just did not realise the scale of the lies and the cover up that had occurred after the tragedy and also felt guilty about my own ignorance of the truth.
Should have known better though when you see what the MSM get up to in our own backyard. It’s learned me to be selective in where I go to for information these days. And to some extent removed the scales from my eyes forever.
Dan
blantyretim
18:58 on
12 September, 2012
AKBW1888
we choose to buy Sky/Vitgin..
We are made pay for the BBC
I know Blantyre Tim & £145 for there yearly services
which in this Country is a joke if you want to have
ones brain removed and dance to there tune which
is totally bias towards one side what ever happen’d
to not being bias being equal handed in opinion
I’m seriously thinking of writing to the TV Licensing
and telling them that I’m seriously thinking of
boycotting paying my TV License due to the Scottish
Media being so one sided
Also, I will write to them by snail mail in other words
don’t let them know one has a PC because they
are now saying that one has to have a TV License
if one owns a PC
Talk about money grabbing, or what?
Dan-Steve Rotherham and Andy Burnham MPs,have done a fantastic job on behalf of the families and the City of Liverpool.Politicians getting praise……..need to lie down :}
Exile Tim
Keep me posted as regards to the weather where you are in
November, I’m rifling over to where you are for a couple of weeks?
Kevin M, you have mail and a contact for the poster named Shady. He’s got a ticket for you.
Enjoy the game.
HH
philvisreturns
14:13 on 12 September, 2012
“Christian B&B owners rarely resort to beating people to death.”
Take it you have never been to Blackpool ? : )
awe_naw_no_annoni_oan_anaw_noo17:39 on12 September, 2012miki67
She likes older men .. maybe thats why ???
Hail Hail
>>>>>>
Good job I’m spoken for then!
HH.
!!Bada Bing!!
19:19 on
12 September, 2012
Dan-Steve Rotherham and Andy Burnham MPs,have done a fantastic job on behalf of the families and the City of Liverpool.Politicians getting praise……..need to lie down :}
______________________________________________________________
Yes, had a wee chuckle there, :o) but there are still some good ones about, although these days it seems that they are sadly in the minority.
Dan
starry plough
Starry…lovely.
AKBW1888
Spain is a big country, just the other side of the mountains from me, they grow citrus fruit, not possible where I am.
Seriously hot for months in the summer, seriously cold for a few weeks in the winter.
philvisreturns
18:47 on
12 September, 2012
ernie lynch – The basis on how he came to form an opinion on this matter, an opinion he was so sure of that he was happy to make it public, suggests his judgement is so impaired that he’s not fit to hold public office.
You may very well think that.
The majority of London voters didn’t agree with you at the last election though.
As we know Ernest, most people who seek public office are unfit to hold it.(thumbsup)
~~~~~~~~~~~
My Dear Philvis….
Surely You Are Not Referring To The ‘Colourful’ Lee Jarvis….
Red Ken’s ‘Equalities Adviser’….
During His ‘Stint’ As London Mayor…
He Was On Radio 4’s ‘Moral Maze’ Around A Month Ago….
Magnificent Melanie Phillips ‘Had Him For Breakfast’….
When He Tried To Regurgitate His Bizarre Racist Beliefs….
Interesting That He Still Receives ‘Invites’ To Appear On ‘Flagship ‘ BBC Programmes….
Funded By Long-Suffering ‘Middle England’….
Naturally….
http://www.google.co.uk/gwt/x?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&u=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9221047/Black-people-cannot-be-racist-says-former-Ken-Livingstone-aide.html&client=ms-hms-tmobile-gb&q=daily+telegraph+jasper+blacks+cannot+be+racist+ken+livingstone&sa=X&ei=185QUO6nPOSw0QXsqYCIAg&ved=0CBoQFjAA
Oh, and great to see Declan back:)))
!!Bada Bing!!
19:19 on
12 September, 2012
Dan-Steve Rotherham and Andy Burnham MPs,have done a fantastic job on behalf of the families and the City of Liverpool.Politicians getting praise……..need to lie down :}
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Need to lie down? Do you think you’re back at work?
I’ve just turned off the telly in disgust. Even Ch4 news spouts half-truths these days…..outright lies as well.
Not about Hillsborough……NO ONE can lie about that any more….but that fake Hisum and the report on Libya. Jeezo….
They just don’t care any more. We’re expected to sit, like morons, and digest pap.
Nah.