Living so close to England it’s easy for us to get drawn into the ways and processes which prove effective south of the border. SPL clubs all scout there, more often than not trying to pick up physically robust scraps discarded by the lower leagues, or troubled souls looking for a sixth chance. Scottish clubs are full of players who have failed to make the grade in England.
When Motherwell were looking for a manager a year ago I heard one of their directors say they hoped to get someone with experience of the English lower leagues, as this has proven to be an effective place for them to network in the past.
Problems with the neighbours works both ways. It’s too easy for English clubs to use the loose change part of their budget to scoop up anything that looks like promising talent from the SPL. While most players will earn well in England, few enjoy the career progression they hoped for.
They do things differently elsewhere. When was the last time teams from Cyprus or Switzerland badgered an English League Two side for their surplus talent? Developing football teams is difficult but a good top level plan helps. One of the most encouraging aspects of Celtic’s top level plan is that it meets criteria that match our place in the world. Recruit talent from the right markets, at the right age and price. Some money has been spent in England, but not much, and those who have arrived from there look decent value.
If Celtic are to match the recent Champions League achievements of Basel or Apoel Nicosia, players like Izaguirre, Kayal, Wanyama and Ki, who pitch up in Glasgow from what appears to be beyond the horizon of the English, will be crucial. Just as those players at Basel and Apoel, they arrived here within an affordable budget and appear to have the talent required to compete at the level Celtic aspires to.
11 years ago we bought Chris Sutton from Chelsea against competition from other FA Premier League clubs. He was soon joined by others at the peak of their ability and reputation, all relatively low-risk signings. We had a few years in the sun but it was neither affordable nor sustainable.
We’ll know soon enough if the current crop of players trying to establish a reputation for themselves have what it takes to win the league and compete in Europe. Good top level plans can still fail in execution, but I’d rather this strategy than send my cash down the M6.
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truth4767 8 December, 2011 at 14:03
Could some of the ‘seekers of truth and justice (for all)’ on here please explain the difference of the two dives between Gary O,Connor of Hibs and Sone Aluko?
Aluko’s was a dive in a dive?
Form for diving.
On the bright side for the laddy. He wont have to pay himself for them 2 games. So its not all bad news!!
Green Oak Tree says:
8 December, 2011 at 13:58
hen1rik says:
8 December, 2011 at
For me it was a blatant cheat…
In normal circumstances when a penalty is awarded the ref will run to the touchline to avoid confrontation….If you watch the incident again you will see that said ref hangs his head low and dawdles to the touchline…Body language told me that he new it was never a penalty kick…
Ok will watch again m8.
what i cant understand is that they were offered a 2 game ban, decided to appeal, the decision is upheld and they get the 2 game ban, does that mean that everyone will appeal as nothing extra is added, seems to me everyone will appeal as the worst that will happen is the original decision upheld and no added penalties, surely this will just add to the red tame admin burden……add an extra game ban if the appeals fails…..surely…….makes sense tae me….
truth4767
not seen the oconnor, but from your post you agree aluko dived, so why complaining about being punished for cheating when you accept he cheated, particularly when the 2 points he cheated you to will be the only reason you will remain top when we beat you on 28th, surely the 2 match ban worth that!
2 faced hypocrisy at his best.
every one out to get you – paranoia
no one like you – clearly you care!
see you next tuesday
Who gave them the money (£1000) for the appeal?
It wasn’t an appeal.
Difference between O’Connor and Aluko’s dives?
O’Connors only had the double twist and somersault whereas Aloko’s had the triple twist in the pike position.
Simples.
Vogue
My sources tell me that the £1,000 was paid in empty ginger bottles …
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Sheik Yerbouti says:
8 December, 2011 at 14:04
hen1rik says:
8 December, 2011 at 13:53
Lads what a hoot below check this out
like reading the mainstream media
funny that
share
Sure do.
hen1rik
Need to chin wee darly king(billy) about “when have 8angers defaulted on a payment”statement the other night.
Folly Folly says:
8 December, 2011 at 14:16
Vogue
My sources tell me that the £1,000 was paid in empty ginger bottles …
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You would be afraid to fall with all thems bottles.
Heeeyyyyy… As Huricane Bawbag blows out, so does Hurricane FollowFollow blow in.
Lunchtime spent creased up absorbed in the Hun perma-rage over the Aluko ruling.
Here’s the highlights so far, lmao….
Remember when reading to adopt the Hun outraged mindset of: ‘nnnnnnnnnngh!’
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We should hold a protest outside Hampden to show these pricks that we will be united in standing up to this blatant tarrier loving SFA. They’ll do anything to help these gypos win the league this season
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Unbelievable.
So there was contact – seems clear from the pictures – but it’s deemed to be insufficient to cause him to lose his balance.
On that criteria Nakamura would have been done for every foul he got awarded!!!!
So will this new found drive to eliminate “cheating” from the game now look at every foul to see if there was sufficent contact to justify the player going down?
Who decides which “acts of simulation” should be investigated and which ignored?
Why was Samaras not investigated for deliberately misleading a referee – there was bugger all up with him and he was rolling around as if he’d been elbowed – surely that was a case, if ever there was one, for the compliance officer to investigate?
It’s just so obviously a complete stitch up it’s beyond words.
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The SFA will doing anything in their power to get the title to Parkhead.
Regans battling through the storms just now to get to parkhead and hand the league trophy over.
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f@ck the lot of the them
today as a club, a support and a tradition we truly stand alone
glasgow rangers ,all the way,
f@ck celtic and the sfa
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Raging at this,absolutely raging.Thats my ****ing Thursday ****ed
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we’re a complete soft touch. – fans and club/management.
people know they can throw whatever they want at us and we will provide little or no fightback.
for the size of support we have, we are an incredibly tame bunch.
we are all guilty of it -sitting on our hands – or at our keyboards, yet when it comes to a unified mobilisation or act of defiance we are a shambles.
we must be one of the most unorganised, disjointed fan groups in the whole of football – and everyone sees that whish is why they’ve been getting away with this pish for far too long now.
I long for the day when the Rangers support reignites the fire in its belly. We are far too obediant, meak, humble and apathetic. As long as this continues to be the case, we will be treated like we have been.
It’s our choice bears – stand up and start the fightback……….or continue as we are.
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i thought that it would be the creation of nu-rangers that would have made me walk away from rangers BUT seriously if rangers dont go 100% mental about this pish take then im gone, sick to my stomach and my blood pressure goes through the roof coming on here (for years) and seeing this shoite.
FIGHT BACK rangers f.f.s, the evidence is so effing blatantly obvious.
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sfa, spl, police, government ….
this stinking anti-rangers country is corrupt to the core.
Yep. Thats why I decided to leave the country.
The nice Scottish scenery is not enough to keep me in such a fecked up and corrupt country.
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I know this is said in a lot of other threads, but our Scottish players should seriously start telling the SFA to get to fuck when it comes to international selection.
Nothing but a corrupt taig infested place now.
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At least the rent-a-gob Uncle Tom that is Andy Goram will be pleased!!
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I would ban every mhedia fekker,boycott all away games,ban every away fan from ibrox. They want to bring the game into disripute then lets help the corrupt bastards do it. Every vlub in scotland should be worried about this set up.
THIS
dirty fenian bastards the ****ing lot of them
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I am not paranoid, but there was an article in one of their fanzines about 20 years ago that said what they needed to do to get ‘equal’ treatment form the SFA was to get ‘their’ sort of people into positions of power in the SFA. I suspect that is what has happened.
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Is it because Aluko is black ?
O’connor gets off, Aluko doesn’t – its the only obvious explanation.
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Mr Whyte, please publically ridicule these muppets and call for a vote of no confidence.
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Mr.Whyte needs to get up on his horse and take it to these tarrier bastards who have infected Scottish football. This is one ragin bear!
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Presumably they can only thank McIntyre for bringing the matter to theri attention and wish him on his way. Then proceed to sacking Conroy, naturally.
Refuse to release players to national team
Withdraw from Scottish Cup
If possible take the decision to the European Court Arbitration on Sports or Court of Human Rights
Whatever, as a Rangers supporter I demand an angry response from Ibrox
Part in Bold I agree with, shocking as many people have said on this thread we can’t take this lying down. We need to fight tooth and nail.
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The sooner we make our players unavailable for the tranny national team the better.
The fenians at the sfa can go and take a flying f**k to themselves!
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mr whyte, please take us out of this stinking, rangers-hating, hole of corruption.
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This is an absolute disgrace. corrupt Tarrier filth,
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Tarrier infested bastards.
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Absolute disgrace, pull all rangers players from Scotland games, boycott every stadium in Scotland, total media blackout **** this paddy lovin country. WATP
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Incredible, heads need to roll at the Scottish Fenian Association.
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I am actually speachless!!!
We need to do something, what that is I dont know, but we need to do something.
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It was a blatant dive, we used to have standards at Rangers.
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Rammies down Govan way son.
kikinthenakas says:
8 December, 2011 at 14:13
Kik….The huns never appealed the naisy elbow… Probably new it wasnt worth persuing..
Does anyone want a copy of The Credit Draper by J. David Simons? Quite good nick but you couldnt pass it off as new.
It’s about a young Russian Jewish immigrant who arrives in Glasgow in 1911 and soon falls in love with Celtic. It’s not about Celtic, but lots of references and Patsy Gallagher is his favourite player.
I’ll be at the game on Saturday so could meet up beforehand.
Off out for a while but will check back later.
I’ve asked a question, but people are avoiding an answer.
So I’ll frame it again.
2 incidents of diving in the penalty area, yes, I said diving, there is a case to answer for both players.
So, one gets off, one is found guilty, now was one more of a dive than the other one, or do you think O’Connor was not guilty?
Because I am struggling to understand both verdicts.
SFA should have charged both, surely, then it would give future charges and verdicts a template and some credibility.
Now we have chaos coming down the line.
Try to give me an answer without the accompanying guff, please, that is all I ask.
Yayo Yayo has to be a Tim!
jude
I’ve heard that before.
Do you know the origin ot that term?
FF
PS Are they worth less without their caps on, ’cause I heard a rumour that some of them … ?
ot = of.
Otvioulsy.
truth4767
The compliance officer thought both O’Connor and your man cheated. The 3-man jury (different people on each occasion) came to a different verdict in O’Connor’s case and agreed with the compliance officer in Aluko’s case. What don’t you understand?
Is it because the new, transparent SFA are sometimes acting in a way that one might almost call “fair” and that because of this you are in a state of confusion.
Don’t worry, you’ll get used to it.
Hehehehe.
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8 December, 2011 at 14:25
truth4767
The compliance officer thought both O’Connor and your man cheated. The 3-man jury (different people on each occasion) came to a different verdict in O’Connor’s case and agreed with the compliance officer in Aluko’s case. What don’t you understand?
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Of course I get that, I know what happened, just wondering if anyone on here thinks the verdict leaves more questions than answers?
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Nope. Mate had a garage on Stamford Street and the weans used to shout in. Got any rammies mister?? If you didnt you just gave them a fiver. Sorta protection money in a way. Kept them on your side and the garage being tanned!!
Hun
You tell us why you Think McGeadys was deserving of a ban given it didn’t gift Celtic 3 points?
truth, I’ll answer your question if you do me a favour of answering mine.
havent seen oconnor one but if as you say he dived too then both bans should have been upheld, however if oconnors was as blatant a dive as alukos then they should have had ban extended due to a frivoloous appeal, i ma staggered so many gers up in arms about this (particularly using words corrupt from a very shaky moral hifgh ground), it was a blatant dive, he should be banned.
so i agree with you it seems strange that oconnor gets off but aluk doesnt, if as you say oconnors was such a blatant cheat as you say, but looking further into it just reaks of paranoia, these things even themselves out.
So my question, in fact here is 2 pick which one to answer.
do you agree you cheated a win against dunfermline and should only be 2 pts ahead.
does it concern you no audited accounts or agm in 2011, to use a follow follow term do you not think that seems corrupt?
truth4767 @ 14.30
What questions? Like, will this deter Jelavic, Naismith, Aluko, Lafferty, etc. from diving in the future?
Truth1690 – The compliance panel got O’Connor’s wrong and Aluko’s correct. End of story. What more do you want? O’Connor should have been banned and wasn’t. Aluko should have been banned and was.
Unless you are saying since the panel got it wrong once it means they now have to dismiss every single case of simulation brought to them by the compliance officer?
Your man got caught and done. Deal with it. You still have the 2 points you cheated out of the match so I can’t see why you are all moaning?
truth4767 8 December, 2011 at 14:21:
Two incidents were both viewed as dives by the SFA. Go this part?
The appeals were judged by different sets of people. Got this part?
One set of people judged Aluko to dive. Got this part?
The other set of people judged that O’Connor didn’t dive. Got that part?
In all of our opinions both dived. But justice only caught up with one of the cheats.
The minute you admit that your club benefited from cheating and that your player is a cheat is the moment that you can move forward and make yourself a better person. Until that moment you will stand around scratching your head about things you perceive as injustices when justice has been served in this case.
green oak tree
just thought where is the incentive for any club to accept the 1st decision when it wont get any worse by appealing, its a win win situation.
as much as i am a big celtic man this truth4767 guy is talking sense. we need to pure take off the blinkers here. that decision is a joke. there is no way they can do aluko since oconnor got off. if that was a celtic player i would be raging if he was banned when the hibs guy got off. the sfa are not doing themselves any favours if they are trying to look fair with stuff like that going on.
diving happens. you just have to take it on the chin. part of the game. banning the boy is unfair it was only a wee tumble
From FF as quoted previously:
“The SFA will doing anything in their power to get the title to Parkhead.”
I do hope that this poster has impeccable source within SFA.
kikinthenakas says 8 December, 2011 at 14:13
Posted similar earlier on,everyone will appeal an “offer”, nothing to lose.
Declan –
do you have any Celtic tattoos? ;-)
Jobo
scotlands shame says:
8 December, 2011 at 14:30
1. Wait to you see the O,Connor one, he took off from a forward position, both legs up in the air, swallow dive with a 4.5 forward roll but glad to see you think I have a point.
2. No the match should not be replayed, the referee is always right even when he is wrong, or I’ll claim at least 2 Cup Finals against you bhoys to be given to us, you see , it just gets silly.
3. Yes I am concerned, yes, there should be an AGM and 4. I don’t trust Whyte one litle bit.
That will do for today
Bye!
kikinthenakas
I could be wrong, but I think the appeal costs the appellant club a grand.
Not much to some, but a fortune to the Foe Malign.
FF
I can’t see what the moaning orcs are bothered about, they’ve stolen 2 points through hunguffery.
V