Teemu Pukki’s permanent move to Brondby for a reported £500k is good business for a player who never came close to commanding a regular starting place at Celtic. While we did well exiting him from Celtic Park but his arrival two years ago is worthy of review.
He came from Schalke as a 23-year-old, having been at Sevilla as a teenager and scoring slightly better than one in two in Finland. Even his Schalke stats were decent, 8 goals in 7 starts and 30 appearances from the bench, which for a sparingly used young player is around the mark expected. On paper, Teemu looked a good fit for us, so do we have anything to learn?
For a start, being able to score goals in the Bundesliga does not guarantee you will be able to translate this into an even better scoring rate in Scotland. We have made similar mistakes when recruiting strikers from Spain in recent seasons. For all our lack of financial clout, delivering in Scotland is not an easy task.
There is a whole world of potential issues around psychology, motivation and appetite, which I regularly hear cited about players from people in the game. For the most part, I reckon these are excuses to bridge the unexplained gap between expectation and outcome. You get the odd indulgent nutcase, but most players have an overwhelming sense of their need to maximise their commercial value by delivering on the park. I suspect Teemu is no different.
Whatever the reason behind him not fitting at Celtic, the exercise cost us not only the £1.5m net loss on transfer fees, and wages paid, but more importantly the failure to kick on from reaching the last 16 of the Champions League in season 2012-13.
There’s a truth in the game which has stood the test of time: only people who watch a player week-in-week-out know his true value. Schalke fans would have told us things about Teemu which we can tell others about John Guidetti. John will pick up a club keen to exploit his untapped potential. A year from now they will be a little wiser.
Our lesson: scouting is the only important part of recruitment, stats, references and YouTube clips don’t count.
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RWE
….and before all of that they blew £100,000 on Daniel Cousin – then were refused permission to play him!
Hunbelieveable!
Long time y’all…..can/will anyone…..without the use of statistics or wiki talk about the bullshit that is global warming ;-))
H.H.
Ps my contrafibulations to RT ;-))
YNWA
startanarguementCSC
Was watching the Snooker World Cup from China earlier.
Scotland v Belgium.
John Higgins and Steven McGuire representing Scotland.
McGuire looks about three stone overweight.
Ronny would get him into shape soon enough.
Two good Tims ‘tho.
HH!!
Snooker’ awlrite ;-)), nog really a sport ;-))
H.H.
*not
Thelurkintim
Yer right.
Snooker is nog really a sport.
:-)
HH!!
jamesgang,19:35
I should have learnt my lesson on the first bus trip but 2 years on the trot to Estartit done it for me, Scotland and the scenery is now my prefferred holiday.
HH
Gerrybhoy, got your email, thanks. Phone me when next in town. Good news about wee Gerry’s exam results. HH.
shuggiebhoy67
;-)
HH JamesGang
RWE
20:13 on
19 June, 2015
CQNrs are probably sick to death of me posting that there should be a full scale enquiry into Duff and Phelps conduct during THEIR administration.
Rather than put the creditors first as they should have been doing, Duff and Phelps seemed hell bent on ensuring THEIR survival.
Jist like swimmin is nog really a sport ;-))
pulls pin & runs
truthCSC
shuggiebhoy67 @ 18:55,
Good to read your discussion with Lennon n Mc Mjallby, a genuinely good debate excellently articulated.
However I must disagree with you about modern day scientists and 2000 year old tent dwellers.
In 2000 years time I think folk will still be fascinated and intrigued by the wisdom emanating from the New Testament while chortling down their sleeves about the no doubt wonderful endeavour but ultimately foolhardy notions of our Scientists.
To give you an example, one I heard on the radio not so long ago.
For centuries humanity has been obsessed with the healing of humanity. When science got hold of the Medical profession in the 20th Century we simply wanted to cure.
Thought it was an excellent point and one the 2000 year old tent dwellers might be inclined to agree with.
My opinion, we are treated like automatons – cured to keep us useful to society.
Where we should be treated like human beings. Mind, body and soul.
Sorry to barge in on a good debate but it was Just-a-thot
Hail Hail
RWE
20:13 on
19 June, 2015
See one of the ‘Fabric of Scottish Society’ brigade, Gordon Matheson, has flung his hat into the ring for position of Deputy Scottish Labour Leader.
chairbhoy
20:40 on 19 June, 2015
shuggiebhoy67 @ 18:55,
As was said at the time…..the most profound thing you can ever say is – Peace be with you.
BlessedCSC
HH JamesGang
The Italian ladies Beach Volleyball championship is due to start soon.
Now there’s a sport worth watching before the fitba’ starts.
HH!!
nye bevan
Saw your words from earlier after my drive by post…
Merci mon ami.
KTF
Wer’s the Only Conspiracy Theorist in the Village wen u want one?
H.H.
TheLurkinTim
20:48 on
19 June, 2015
Wer’s the Only Conspiracy Theorist in the Village wen u want one?
H.H.
What is the potential conspiracy?
CQN debate Science Vs God
Hail Hail.
Could ooe of the lessons of the Pukki mistake be that when your default position is that of seeking bargains, you have an increased chance of acquiring bingers?
jamesgang @ 20:43,
Very good point…
And peace be with you.
Hail Hail
Nazis popes atheists, nazi popes, nazi atheists, catholic Nazis, catholic anti Nazis, Rangers, anti nazi atheists, Rangers, Ascot. …just a few of the recent topics. …However let’s forget about all of that and concentrate on the new topic. ..the Italian ladies beach volleyball. YAHOO
Vespacide
20:53 on 19 June, 2015
CQN debate Science Vs God
Hail Hail.
———–
It’s always Sunny – funniest show on the tele box
Quonno,
oh, i don’t know………offset carbon footprints ;-))
H.H.
the_huddle
20:56 on 19 June, 2015
Vespacide
20:53 on 19 June, 2015
CQN debate Science Vs God
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u mean science v faith……in something that has u living rite?
H.H.
macjay@9.20 this morning
“Just one example…..Where are the feminist groups decrying the treatment of women in Islamic countries?”
Nobody would pretend that Islam is fair in its treatment of women, or that Hinduism is not class-ridden, or that every Religion, particularly those with wierder sub-sects, do not have big problems. But are you seriously saying you have never heard denunciation of practices such as forced marriages, and genital mutilation from western liberals and feminists? If you say yes to that, I think you have been ignoring all reports of it or they do not get reported in the media circles you consume. It is dead easy to disprove that there is nothing being done or said. The following links took two minutes research. I did find a lot of tea party and right wing blogger sites advancing the same argument. Those least informed and least interested about other cultures seem to be more adamant and strident about advancing the view that “If I don’t know about it or have never had it brought to my attention, then it doesn’t exist”
Western diffidence
Wiki
Musawah
BBC
Women protesting ISIS in London
LGBT protest in Paris
Gay groups decrying Catholic teaching on issues like marriage equality.Not a word, or a rather muted word, about the treatment of gays in Islamic countries.
I must admit, there does appear to be more of a point to this one, though again most of the instances I found were of the same right wing sites and blogs (who have no tolerance themselves of Gay Rights) decrying the Gay movement for not calling out Islam. I did find it hard to find contrary evidence readily available here but I did find these:-
Reading Uni students
LGBT protest Sultan of Brunei
“I feel we are bending over backwards to accommodate attitudes and behaviour which we would find intolerable among members of a different religion.”
There is a lot of confusion about what we want to protest about on Islamic influence. The stuff about treatment of women and LGBT issues should be the easier stuff around which we can agree. Instead we find the stupid right protesting about their different clothes and the smell of their cooking, but, as I said at the start, there is no shortage of protest against genital mutilation and forced marriage. We even get to pass laws against them and have successfully prosecuted. It really would be nice to believe that most of those calling out the liberals and the left for their failure to call out Islam, were themselves actually committed to Gender equality and LGBT rights but I have my doubts.
macjay@9.20 this morning
“Just one example…..Where are the feminist groups decrying the treatment of women in Islamic countries?”
Nobody would pretend that Islam is fair in its treatment of women, or that Hinduism is not class-ridden, or that every Religion, particularly those with wierder sub-sects, do not have big problems. But are you seriously saying you have never heard denunciation of practices such as forced marriages, and genital mutilation from western liberals and feminists? If you say yes to that, I think you have been ignoring all reports of it or they do not get reported in the media circles you consume. It is dead easy to disprove that there is nothing being done or said. The following links took two minutes research. I did find a lot of tea party and right wing blogger sites advancing the same argument. Those least informed and least interested about other cultures seem to be more adamant and strident about advancing the view that “If I don’t know about it or have never had it brought to my attention, then it doesn’t exist”
Western diffidence
Wiki
Musawah
BBC
A couple more
Women protesting ISIS in London
LGBT protest in Paris
Gay groups decrying Catholic teaching on issues like marriage equality.Not a word, or a rather muted word, about the treatment of gays in Islamic countries.
I must admit, there does appear to be more of a point to this one, though again most of the instances I found were of the same right wing sites and blogs (who have no tolerance themselves of Gay Rights) decrying the Gay movement for not calling out Islam. I did find it hard to find contrary evidence readily available here but I did find these:-
Reading Uni students
LGBT protest Sultan of Brunei
“I feel we are bending over backwards to accommodate attitudes and behaviour which we would find intolerable among members of a different religion.”
There is a lot of confusion about what we want to protest about on Islamic influence. The stuff about treatment of women and LGBT issues should be the easier stuff around which we can agree. Instead we find the stupid right protesting about their different clothes and the smell of their cooking, but, as I said at the start, there is no shortage of protest against genital mutilation and forced marriage. We even get to pass laws against them and have successfully prosecuted. It really would be nice to believe that most of those calling out the liberals and the left for their failure to call out Islam, were themselves actually committed to Gender equality and LGBT rights but I have my doubts.
Almore ..
BMCUWP has emailed me your address so will drop you a note shortly. Cheers.
RWE/Quonno … I think the whole receivership thing is such a scam …. they are supposed to be impartial, but, in my experience, favour (i) themselves and their fees, and (ii) those that routinely appoint them (usually, the banks) …. and, at least in Canada, their conduct usually just gets rubber-stamped by the courts, and they charge people ridiculous amounts for it!….. I did an appeal recently about reducing their fees, which we won …. so I am not the Recevers’ favourite at the moment! ….
WITS … I like the way you think!
Calling it a night.
Don’t know if it has something to do with the summer solstice and they are all out yodelling at the moon.
However, there would appear to be marked absence of a rabble just waiting to be aroused.
Good night.
MiT
The bhoy who’s so clever he has a whole uni named after him……
HH JamesGang
Jesus was a Jew and obeyed the Jewish faith, he just hated hypocrites. Christianity is a subset of Jewish religion and beliefs. Catholicism is based on much Old Testament and Jewish beliefs.
A proper question to ponder by humanity-
Is startin’ an ole cqn debate as good as a podium?
;)
WITS ………where is the ladies beachballers on
I’m a dislecsic insomniac agnostic-I can’t get to sleep at night wondering whether dog exists!
quonno
I’m with you on this one.
Folks on here have just gotten fed up with it all, particularly as the media and the establishment appear to do all they can to airbrush away the sins and the sinners.
No wish to offend any politically sensitive bods but since THEY were considered to be the quintessentially Scottish club, synonymous with the “real” Scotland then it came as no surprise to hear Scottish politicians fall over themselves trying to pander to the blue demographic in 2012.
The cast of this pantomine is very lopsided though: there is no Prince Charming, there are many ugly sisters and there is definitely a surplus of villains.
SDM – big time conman
Whyte – small time conman and asset stripper
Green – Yorkshire conman who ruined Sheffield Utd
Duff & Phelps – friends of conmen who failed to do their court appointed job
Easdales – a convicted fraudster and a bus driver
King – Convicted fraudster and major conman
Colyer Bristow – lawyers for conmen with one of their solicitors charged with fraud
Whyte, Gary Withey, Paul Clark, David Grier and David Whitehouse have all been charged with fraud (Nov 2014) relative to the oldco sale/purchase/administration/liquidation/selloff.
SDM is on gardening leave in Morningside
Green is on vineyard leave in Normandy.
We forget how awful all of these people are/were and their appalling track record with oldco/sevco – and how they corrupted Scottish football for decades.
Meanwhile, the SFA are still trying to pretend that all is well.
With apologies for interrupting Friday night quiz and music fun.
Lest we Forget CSC
RWE
Succulent lamb stripped right down to the bone, good to see you back..
Since he was so good last night, thought I’d contribute a lloyd cole song to the Friday night music session ….
for those who haven’t heard him before, think a cross of lou reed and leonard cohen, with a bit of Marc Bolan thrown in to the mix… although this song is more of the cohen side of the mix …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7S6A3Ae_sw