Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny. The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:
“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.
“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football. It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”
Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.
Bubnov told Russian television:
“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys. They played long crosses forward like the idiots. Celtic defenders knocked back everything. It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.
“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him. When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’ Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot? Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”
Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division. He added:
“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium. They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis. They told us Celtic are one story heroes.
“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating. You see how they do things there? What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers? OK, go and take long rest. Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.
“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football. You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland? Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?
“Experts? Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them. Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”
When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:
“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.
“Neil Lennon was very smart coach. He closed Spartak options on the wings. Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings. Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders. But, our defenders were poor and slow.
“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings. What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”
“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back. Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”
Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.
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If we get Sevco at home we should make it £12 a ticket as with Raith Rovers. Anything more is an acknowledgement of the false status they claim. And I fully expect an official of the club to ridicule any us of ‘old firm’ that Sally has already started to bandy around.
Just saw the news re Fraser Forster’s england call-up. Excellent news, well done big man.
The Battered Bunnet
Or start heat testing on the thermal chocolate tea pot?
Win the Europa League for me!
Imagine the effect on some of the young players in our team, winning a European tropy.
It would set us up very well for the CL the following season.
IMO the CL money is there for us for the next 10 years……if we want it.
But please do not ask the big Jessie, sorry, Dessy which one he’d prefer.
Just a wee question for all those who think we need Sevco for a stong competition in Scottish football:
A strong competition involves a wide range of teams all vying to win, each with a strong team, each capable of winning.
How many clubs have now been left crippled due the suicidal financial policies of the RFCia regime?
How many clubs are facing going to the wall because SDM & his disciples were so hell-bent on winning at ANY cost?
Sevco, the remnants of these corporate crooks are not a source of salvation. They haven’t learned a single thing from the past year. If anything, the experiences have reinforced their insular thinking – nobody loves us but we don’t care (strange claim when they are rather tetchy on every utterance by just about anyone); they are also wholly focussed on revenge when they arise from the ashes.
Not that they will….
Blantyrekev,
as usual you just had to take that too far……..there is no Div 3 in the Ryman North.
Sheeesh!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
BlantyreKev
12:58 on 4 October, 2012
‘If we get Sevco at home we should make it £12 a ticket as with Raith Rovers. Anything more is an acknowledgement of the false status they claim. And I fully expect an official of the club to ridicule any us of ‘old firm’ that Sally has already started to bandy around.’
We have to split the gate money, don’t we?
Reward the fans. Make it £1 a ticket. Even for the padded seats.
ernie lynch
If you were on the former RTC site, you would be referred to as a Troll.
It is the worst name to get on a blog.
Please ignore my comments in future if you think that making cheap remarks is either clever or funny.
When you meet a Troll, just Scroll.
ernie…,
Is there no a minimum price ?
I will not be paying for a ticket if that is the draw
TBB,
have i wasted the last few hours googling suitable large agricultural buildings with movable structures for access and egress???
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Would take the last 16 of CL any time. That last 16 could easily become the last 8 and then anything could happen.
thomthethim
13:06 on 4 October, 2012
‘ernie lynch
If you were on the former RTC site, you would be referred to as a Troll.’
I was on the former RTC site from the start, under a different name.
I was never accused of being a troll.
Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire
13:06 on 4 October, 2012
ernie…,
Is there no a minimum price ?
I will not be paying for a ticket if that is the draw
####
I’m not aware of there being a minimum price, which doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
I doubt I would go if we get them, either home or away, for all sorts of reasons.
Don’t want to play them in the next round , next week , next month , next year . Don’t want to play them ever again .
If they accept that they are a NEW club and work their way back up ( without league reconstruction ) then and only them will I consider going to watch them.
TwoTunTimfromTeddington
13:08 on
4 October, 2012
Would take the last 16 of CL any time. That last 16 could easily become the last 8 and then anything could happen.
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The last 16 does tend to become the last 8 most years;)
Then its the last 4. Jeez we’re practically in the final! ;)
HH
bit late but wanted to share.
When UEFA cup became Europa league my old Ma announced “well thats another first Celtic can do ” (as a british club )
she talks quite a lot my old ma and the apple doesnt fall far from the tree in my case but she does come out with some good ones sometime.
HH
BlantyreKev
Being a virgin club surely the Hyman North Div 3 would be more suitable.
:-)
Or does the club need to be intact to compete in that league?
MWD takes it tooooo far again.
Zbyszek.
I can see you now penning that reply to me with a smile on your face, but I will take your word that it was Bubnov.
Tell me, was that story written in English?,It must have been,either that or Paul taken lessons in the Russian language?.
Are you coming over for the Barcelona game.You mentioned that Majic & Georg were thinking of coming,are they,or have they changed their minds.
I was thinking about coming over for a wee visit to see you and the family,but that was before the draw for CL, when Barcelona & Benfica were drawn in the same section as Celtic my thoughts were diverted to those two games away, BT and I are heading to Barcelona for 4 days,and heading to Lisbon,hopefully, with Johann Murdoch in November.
I will visit you but it may be next year.
I should have sent you this in an e-mail,but when my computer crashed, my e-mails disappeared with the crash.
I’ll have to have a word with BT to get a list of e-mail addresses from him,he must have everyone’s e-mail on his list.
Apologies for using CQN as a personal message board.
T4 – what did it say on the back page?
“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back. Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”
Top notch – reminds me of the Irish commentator with the man-love for Riquelme…what’s his name?
Must admit.
It is difficult to gt excited about playing Scotlands youngest league club. 3rd division footbal has never been of interest to me. I’d likely take a time out (ole Dezzie would go though) and get that knitting\crocheting class sorted i’ve always meant to do.
MWD
Re the ‘Brothel at the back’, does this have anything to do with this seemingly new position that we hear about nowadays of ‘playing in the hole?’
Yorkbhoy .
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Semi final of CL for me , anything less then I would prefare to win EL. Agree with Phill , the experience of winning a European trophy would be invaluable to us for our future years in CL
It has taken a couple of seasons for this young Celtic squad to gel but now it is a serious team and the taste of European football last season and now has been inspirational – just look at the results. We know Hooper and Samaras are not fazed by the big stage and are scoring goals, pity they were not available for the Benfica match and Celtic would now be sitting on 6 points.
It’s just great that we are being underestimated and it suits Neil and his squad just fine.
Dublin Noelbhoy
13:23 on 4 October, 2012
”the experience of winning a European trophy would be invaluable to us for our future years in CL”
But so would progression in the CL.
MWD – naw but DD might have, going by the interview!
T4
traditionalist88
13:13 on 4 October, 2012
Where’s the final this year, I’m booking my flights now :)
Hamiltontim, not seen any subsequent comments on DD’s comments but I think everything is there for readers to take what they want. On the issue of Sevco Celtic acted as I told you they would and as they indicated to many. DD can afford to be magnanimous now, it costs him nothing and will only show the paranoid ranters elsewhere that their predicament is their own doing, not some ridiculous Celtic plot. I know some will be angry he didn’t jig on their grave but that is the price of dealing with the paranoid rant.
Ten Men Won The League, don’t count on it.
Steinreignedsupreme, aye, surprise.
Marti Sandino, good call.
The Idiot, really enjoyed it too. Thanks to our man in Poland for the translation.
oldtim67, he sure did.
Philbhoy, careful.
saltires en sevilla, 100% correct.
jackie mac, yes, Celtic Park will be a different game.
Celtic have suffered an injury blow following their Champions League victory over Spartak Moscow with the news that Georgios Samaras is expected to be out for up to 6 weeks.
The Greek international suffered multiple injuries in a horrific goring after using a banjo to whack the backside of a bull.
So the Huns have started to excert a wee bit o’pressure on the outcome of today’s draw?
If they are drawn at home will they will see this as some sort of victory? plus additional revenue?
I think they will be drawn away and we should all laugh a wee bit more.
Not sure i want them gone yet…………..there are lots o’boots still to be delivered.
Stupid huns
Teuchter ár lá
jackie mac
I remember young Aiden running rings around AC MILAN in one of our encounters.
>>>>>>>
jackie mac
12:36 on
4 October, 2012
very interesting paul67 whoever you are
the upshot is though – they will be very different in celtic park and they now know who james forrest is (he was reminiscent of agathe against inter ?? was it inter) not to mention mulgrinho, hoops, hercules and so on… Can’t wait to stuff them again
did mcgeady destroy a team in an early european game – barca ?
anyway , it’ll be very different , so will my expectations !
As expected, the cup draw has cold ball facing a home tie against warm ball. :-)
whitedoghunch.
I was just saying to BT last night that I think WDH has fallen out with me,no phone calls,no horsey tips, nothing,then glory be I get a post from you,glad to see that You are still talking.
As I was saying in that post to Zbyszek My computer went down and I lost all my e-mails, and addresses,but i’m up and working again,and will soon be biting your head off.
Was suprised to hear the disrespect shown to Celtic from the Russian media and coaches before the game. I expect Celtic to show any Champions League opponents the uptmost respect just for being in the competition and can’t understand why any coach would publicly do otherwise.
It’s particularly baffling considering Celtic have beaten Russian opponents over 2 legs twice in the last 4 or 5 years.
The Barca director, Zubizeratta was spot on in saying that Celtic require no introduction in the European football arena.
We have won the European Cup for goodness sake!
Granted that was a long time ago, but we have been to the last 16 in the Champions League twice in the last 6 years (I think).
Spartak’s record in this competetion is pretty poor. They have no right to be scoffing at anyone let alone the famous Glasgow Celtic.
Ah! But TTTT. The last 16 is but one step on the road to Wembley.
So we are on the same page.
Me thinks!
MWD
HH
I m with fourgreenfields on this..
My life is better without THEMS.. In every way.. I want nothing to do with their bigotry, corruption and hatred of us..I m glad. I m not looking over my shoulder at league positions..
It’s Sevco peddling the myth they’re needed cos they are a busted flush..
I despise them and all they represent and their yrs of bile.. Let us never forget that ..
Like a bad rash they refuse to go away.. Clinging to the notion they’re a team.. No they are not .
Sevco are the embers of all that is wrong with this little country…
Lets sweep the embers up and throw them in the bin NEVER to return..
HH
Fraser Forster… Superb big man.. Well deserved…
The Battered Bunnet.
You terrified me there. Don’t do that!
Paul67
13:26 on 4 October, 2012
”I know some will be angry he didn’t jig on their grave but that is the price of dealing with the paranoid rant.”
There is some distance between jigging on their grave and saying
‘“Rangers are a fantastic club with a great history. They will, in not too long a time, be back in the SPL. I have no doubt about that.
And they’re needed for Scottish football because of their following, the size of the club and especially their history. We certainly would like to contest with them every week. We believe we have a better team and management structure.
For us, it’s disappointing that they are not there but that’s decisions by the various clubs and leagues and we accept those.
Rangers are one of the great clubs in Britain and we have to acknowledge that.”
Unless of course you believe, like some on here, that in saying those things The Great Desmondo was lying, or was being sarcastic, or disingenuous, or goading the huns, or only said what he did because he was afraid of the Scottish media.
Personally I hold him in higher regard than that. I think it was an honest expression of his views.
Erin lynch
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Yes it would , but we would come away with a title of ‘ European Champions ‘ at the end of it all , just like Porto did and we all know what they done the following year.
Just a thought.