Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny. The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:
“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.
“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football. It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”
Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.
Bubnov told Russian television:
“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys. They played long crosses forward like the idiots. Celtic defenders knocked back everything. It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.
“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him. When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’ Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot? Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”
Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division. He added:
“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium. They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis. They told us Celtic are one story heroes.
“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating. You see how they do things there? What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers? OK, go and take long rest. Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.
“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football. You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland? Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?
“Experts? Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them. Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”
When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:
“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.
“Neil Lennon was very smart coach. He closed Spartak options on the wings. Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings. Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders. But, our defenders were poor and slow.
“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings. What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”
“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back. Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”
Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.
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Of 9 cup ties this season, SevCo have been drawn at home in 6 of them
Taking into account the 1st round of the Ramsdens had been made BEFORE they were even alive, and that makes it 6 out of 8
Coincidence?
imatim and so is neil lennon
12:03 on
4 October, 2012
I have been thinking the exact same thing……. DD said what he said for a specific reason
St. Johnstone @ Paradise
Very happy we didn’t get Sevco .
Still breathing clean air at Celtic Park .
Presumably Sevco won’t allow BBC to televise their cup game against ICT………. just in case Ally gets pure upset at the opening credit sequence.
will they still be solvent for their next CIS cup game
that is the question :oD)))
Astounded of forehead were not away at hate factory
Delighted with draw,
Ps ICT will beat the zombies
feedthebhear
The obsession with Sevco will die ( just like them ) when justice is done .
surprised at the draw, thought we would get hearts at tynecastle. Suspected sevco would gwt ICT at home.
alex thomson @alextomo
Intriguing court case looming for Craig Whyte fmr Rangers owner.
alex thomson @alextomo
A lawyer says “it’s as near to public flogging as you can get these days”
Right, so. Marcelo Bielsa.
Everyone agrees that Athletic Bilbao had a brilliant season, but they ended up beaten, by 3-0, in two cup finals. This came after the second defeat, at the hands of Barcelona, in the domestic cup final, held in Madrid on May 25. Barcelona were 3-0 after 25 minutes and won at a canter. Bielsa made two substitutions at half-time and was very disappointed in the showing his men gave that night.
He was particularly upset to come into the dressing-room at the end and find some of the players laughing.
According to the transcript, this is what he said to the players.
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“You allow yourselves to laugh after seeing that there are folk who walked to this stadium (the Calderón) from Madrid … we’re above that crowd, laughing, after losing a cup final. You allow yourselves all these things. But that’s not what football is about and it’s not what life is about, boys.
“You’ve had these chances, but it’s going to be a long time, and I mean a really long time, for you to have a chance to get revenge. And you are going to remember what I am telling you now. Let me insist: it’s not that we ought to have won, it’s about how we have lost.
“For me, the road we have travelled, which has been outstanding, because you boys played some outstanding games on the way to this, truly outstanding, is left in shadow by what happened tonight. And it’s an even darker shadow because we don’t know why it happened.
“I don’t think we can say tonight, as we did after the first game [the Europa League final in Bucharest against Atlético Madrid on May 9], that we were too nervous. If you ask me what went wrong tonight, I just don’t know, and that’s worse.
“Well, nothing more, boys. I’ll say goodbye to you, in case we don’t see each other again. And if we do see each other again, we will keep fighting to build something important.”
alex thomson @alextomo
Coming up in my blog later
OnlyAnExcuse @OnlyAnExcuse
Every round of the SC League Cup, Rangers have faced a team with an ex-Rangers player as manager. Durie, Pressley, McCall and now Butcher.
After the slagging mccall got, butcher will think twice about lying down the zombies-in-waiting
That wretch at the Record, Craig Swan, should be driven into the sea. His dancing for a few rubles is somewhere between the antics of that Tory MP, who told Fox News that our NHS was like something from the third world, and the scar-faced Nazi himself, Lord Haw Haw.
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors
14:31 on 4 October, 2012
”After the slagging mccall got, butcher will think twice about lying down the zombies-in-waiting”
Yes . For one former hun to be papped out of the cup is unfortunate, two would be careless.
ernie lynch
See dontpatmadug at 14.29
Cup game 31st Oct
I am going as a Zombie whats everyone else going as.
ernie lynch
14:35 on
4 October, 2012
LLLLOOOOLLLL ……. !!!!!!!!
jc2
14:37 on
4 October, 2012
Cup game 31st Oct
I am going as a Zombie
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Thought you were dressing up?
The draw in full:
Aberdeen v St Mirren
Rangers v Inverness
Dundee United v Hearts
Celtic v St Johnstone
O.G Rafferty
Same story as Alex T?
Voguepunter
watch it :>)
I play 5s with bhoys from the vogue mainly the young pups.
Hi Fholks,
I’ve been doing a wee bit of running over the last couple of years mainly just to keep fit and work off pints after a heavy weekend. I’ve completed a few events such as 8km and 10km races just for fun, and on occasion have raised a few quid for charities along the way.
Anyways, to cut a long story short, this year I’ve decided to take the plunge and enter the Dublin Marathon which will be my first marathon. I started specific training in July for the event. As any of you who have completed a marathon will know, the effort that goes into the training takes up quite a lot of time and serious determination, and is way above the level I have been running so far. If anybody has seen the film “Run Fat Boy Run”, that’s about the level I’m at :-)
As I was making all this effort to train for the marathon, I started to look around for a good cause to run it, for and to give me extra incentive to make it all worthwhile. I was checking the Celtic website one day a couple of months back and came across an appeal for the Celtic Charity Fund. Basically they were looking for people to travel and do voluntary work for 2 weeks in Kibera, Nairobi, the largest slum in the whole of Africa.
The work will be with the Kibera Celtic Foundation which was established in 2008 as a self help programme, linking sport with small business development, AIDS awareness and other community programmes, including health and education. The guys have a football team whose nickname is “The Slum Bhoys” and the club’s founding principles are based along the charitable lines of Glasgow Celtic’s own origins. Kibera Celtic really do fit the phrase “More than a Football club” in every sense. You can read more about the team and Kibera Celtic Foundation at the following Link :http://kiberacelticfc.com/background.html
As you can imagine, I was very enthused by the prospect of doing the marathon for such a worthy cause and also by being able to travel to Kibera itself and do something concrete to help people living in such poverty stricken and difficult conditions. I contacted Celtic and applied to be a volunteer for this appeal.I was informed some weeks back that I was accepted and , as far as I know, will be the only Irish person travelling to Kenya, from a group of up to 24 other volunteers from Scotland, with the charity this coming January.
Now here’s the bit where you can help support me, if you can possibly afford to do so. I have been tasked by the charity with raising a minimum of £2,000 sterling. The way the exchange rate is going at the minute, that’s probably about €10K Euro :-).
Celtic have helped me to set up my own fundraising webpage. Here you can get more information on the appeal and also crucially you an make a donation towards my target. Any donation, no matter how big or small, is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for taking the time to read this as I’m a long winded git when I get started. I should be saving it for the marathon!
Anyways, here’s the link for you to copy and paste into your browser and where you can make a donation http://www.everyclick.com/sandskiberacelticappeal
Simply click on the green “Give Now” button, then the “Donate” button to give a cash donation from your card. I’m hoping to hit my target by the time I’ve crawled over the line on October 29th. You also get to see my real name when you click on there so, for those who know me, go easy on poor old Marti Sandino :-)There will also be a bucket collection before the Hearts game on Sunday for Kibera Celtic so throw in a few bob if you can afford to.
Hail! Hail!
Marti Sandino
Gonnae call Sevco, sevco…….
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning!, 14:40
That would be right
Not long back so just catching up.
This Bubnov character sounds like quite…well,a character!
Give him a job on the DR – he’ll put Jabba and those other wretches in their place!
“Stupid Scottish experts…”? Right about the stupid – wrong about the experts.
Brothel?!
Zombie FC at home to ICT – no surprise there. The BBc will, no doubt, be already in discussions with Chuck. V happy with our draw.
HH!!
Although this is a more recent development
I agree.. Can we all call Sevco …. Sevco.. Part of their scheming is to continue using the R word in the hope that society shrugs its shoulders and moves on….
No no.
Never forget who Sevco are from, what they were and what they did ..
I better go lie down now..
The sight of the R word stresses me..
HH
The Onlooker, 14:18
Yes, oddly the walks to the Oval and Windsor were the safest, or had fewer incidents anyway.
Mind you a few scary ones at Solitude to make up for it
O.G Rafferty
…”a public flogging”…….canny wait!
Will they be giving away free tickets to this ” public flogging ” just like they do at sevco games :-))))
Philbhoy – It’s just the beginning! 14:55
This one’s a spin off, but entertaining nonetheless
Can’t beat a good keel hauling when we tire of the public floggings…
I will be in the Richmond area of London when some will be in Barcelona, is there a recommended pub to watch the game in that might even allow colours?
OG
Cant wait to hear the evidence of SDM “I was duped” I wonder if the court will accept that at face value
Quite amusing at the moment to see daft Leggo trying to drum up support for a Sevconian boycott of the Daily Record, in spite of the best efforts of wee Jabba and Jingle Jangle Jackson.
Oh the irony!