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Missing defenders when the squad is light

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The 25th of May is our sixth cup final between now and then.  Sunday’s visit to Dundee could scarcely feel more important.  On-loan Liverpool left back Owen Beck has received much of the attention in the Dundee defence this season, but central defender Joe Shaughnessy has been a bigger part of their success story.

Beck has been injured since last month while Shaughnessy is set to miss his first start in a league game of the season against Celtic on Sunday.  He was hooked 10 minutes into Dundee’s last game, although the defence were still strong enough to stop Newco scoring.

Missing two from four first choice defenders is a challenge for a team with the resources of Celtic.  It will be a very unwelcome scenario for Dundee manager, Tony Docherty, as he makes a push for European football next season.  We have to expose their weaknesses.

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  2. QuadBhoy on

    Attack, attack, attack attack attack!

     

     

    Just score at least one more than them.

     

     

    QB

  4. marspapa on

    I think Becks injury was due to Yang turning him inside out .

     

     

    Yang made Beck look ordinary. Hopefullly our luck continues and we concentrate better at the back ….

  7. Prestonpans bhoys on

    My only fear on Sunday is the person in the Var room with his selective interpretation of the rules!

  9. !!Bada Bing!! on

    it’s the old chestnut that is Lennoxtown, expensive to run,with not a lot coming near the first team squad.Look abroad and decent clubs are awash with academy players,look at the players who have went to Italy recently, Doig,Ferguson, Hickey who went for about £3 million, sold for £12 million. Decent enough prospects, without being outstanding IMO, have improved markedly, obviously down to better coaching, and coaches……time for a change.

  10. scullybhoy on

    At a time when the season was traditionally concluded with the Scottish Cup final at the end of April, the game’s administrators decided the time was ripe to gauge the potential market for summer football.

     

     

    It was an experiment which would last just two years. Handicapped from the outset by a complete lack of interest from both Celtic and Rangers, its first final was delayed by a typhoid epidemic to add to the sense it was a tournament which did not have an auspicious future.

     

     

    “It’s fair to say the players weren’t that keen on it,” recalls Peter Cormack, then a prodigious teenager at Hibs who would make a telling impact in the tournament. “The married guys were especially unhappy, because it ate into their summer holidays. It wasn’t so bad for younger laddies like myself, who would have played every night of the week, but I don’t think it was ever going to catch on.”

     

     

    Yet it remains notable for delivering an eye-catching addition to the early managerial CV of Jock Stein who led Cormack and his Hibs team-mates to success in the first reprise of the Summer Cup in May 1964.

     

     

    It was appropriate that the Easter Road club should lift the silverware as it was at the instigation of their chairman Harry Swan that the Summer Cup was first introduced during the Second World War.

     

     

    Encouraged by the Government as part of their Holidays at Home campaign to prevent widespread travel by the public during the summer, the tournament was played on a knockout basis from 1941 to 1945, inclusive, and produced five different winners in Hibs, Rangers, St Mirren, Motherwell and Partick Thistle.

     

     

    With the public appetite for football all but insatiable at a time of austerity, attendances were healthy. But, when the war ended, it was shelved as Scottish football returned to its more traditional calendar.

     

     

    There was plenty of scepticism around when the Summer Cup returned in 1964, CELTIC AND OLD CO clubs quickly declaring they would not be taking part. The Edinburgh clubs were initially more enthusiastic and the competition kicked off with a derby match at Tynecastle, which Hearts won 3-2.

     

     

    The 16 clubs who entered faced each other on a round-robin basis in four groups of four teams and it appeared Stein’s Hibs side had been eliminated when Hearts topped their section. The Gorgie club, however, decided to withdraw at this stage as they took up an offer to tour North America.

     

     

    It meant Hibs played off against Dunfermline, at Tynecastle, for the last semi-final slot. They won 3-1 then went on to defeat Kilmarnock over two legs in the last four to set up a final showdown with Aberdeen. But the outbreak of typhoid at the end of May 1964 in the Granite City, eventually traced to a tin of Fray Bentos corned beef sold in a William Low supermarket, forced the final to be postponed.

     

     

    Aberdeen was effectively shut off from the rest of Scotland to prevent the spread of the disease. There were no fatalities, but it took a high-profile visit to the city by the Queen in July 1964 to help restore confidence that Aberdeen was safe once more.

     

     

    The delayed Summer Cup final eventually went ahead in August, capturing substantial interest with an attendance of 27,000 at Easter Road for the second leg. With the teams level at 4-4 on aggregate, a third match was required. Aberdeen won the toss for choice of venue, but Hibs prevailed with a 3-1 win with goals from Cormack, Willie Hamilton and Jim Scott.

     

     

    “That was a good Aberdeen team but we played really well in that game,” recalls Cormack. “I was lucky enough to go on and win major domestic and European trophies at Liverpool, so the Summer Cup isn’t high on my list of achievements. But it was great to be in a trophy-winning team under a manager like Jock Stein.

     

     

    “He left for Celtic a few months later, of course, and the rest is history. But you can’t help wondering how much more Hibs would have won if he had stayed as manager for a longer period.”

  12. ziggydoc1 on

    SCULLYBHOY on 24TH APRIL 2024 12:14 PM

     

    JOE

     

     

    1988: Celtic beat Dundee 3-0 at Celtic Park and secure the league title in their centenary year.

     

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    Massive crowd that day. Some crushing on the way in.

  13. Bhoyjoebelfast on

    SCULLYBHOY @12:18

     

    How could I forget Mr.Stein winning Summer cup 1964.

     

    1888 league title win, at the time some reports that 85/90,000 inside Celtic Park.

  15. Bhoyjoebelfast on

    ●Scotland Goalkeepers●

     

    1)Gained 7 caps 1980-83.Understudy to Alan Rough at International level ?

     

    2)Won 5 caps while with Airdrie 60/61 ?

     

    3) Played for England u 16,17,19,20 and 21,then capped in 2023 for Scotland ?

     

    4) Made his debut v France 2023 ?

     

    5) This keeper was selected by Scotland manager Tommy Docherty in 1970 ?

  20. QuadBhoy on

    4) Or Zander Clark or both?

     

    Darn it, finally see a question that is within my lifetime and I can’t recall I think on the radio it might have been two debuts!?

     

     

    QB

  22. bigrailroadblues on

    Good afternoon all from the Queens Park Cafe. Lovely walk in the park this morning, great views over the city from Camphill. It’s a wonderful life.

  31. An Dún on

    Another away game in the league which seemingly means only one thing these days – step forward John Beaton.

  35. mazzy on

    Scullybhoy

     

     

    That’s interesting stuff about Peter Cormack. He mentions Stein. Wonder why big Jock didn’t move to bring him to CP. Of course, perhaps he did but for whatever reason(s) it just didn’t happen. A more than decent player who had a good career in England.

  37. scullybhoy on

    “Once described as a skinny kid built like a greyhound, he was as hard as nails, his fiery fiercely competitive nature earning him several altercations with officialdom. According to a popular Hibs player of the time, Peter could do everything, pass, beat a man, tackle and head the ball. The versatile Cormack could also play anywhere, out wide, midfield, up front and even in goal as he once demonstrated when keeping a clean sheet for most of the match against St Mirren after goalkeeper Willie Wilson had gone off injured.”

     

     

    He offered a serious attacking threat from headers with an apparent natural ability to hang in the air. He had a prance like style of running by running on the balls of his feet. Cormack worked hard to improve as a footballer and did extra training sessions three times a week with Peter Marinello and John Murphy at Hibs. With a background in cross country running, he was very fit using his stamina to tire out opponents to allow space for himself.

     

     

     

    MAZZY

     

    I wish Celtic had signed him!

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