Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny. The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:
“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.
“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football. It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”
Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.
Bubnov told Russian television:
“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys. They played long crosses forward like the idiots. Celtic defenders knocked back everything. It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.
“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him. When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’ Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot? Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”
Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division. He added:
“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium. They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis. They told us Celtic are one story heroes.
“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating. You see how they do things there? What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers? OK, go and take long rest. Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.
“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football. You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland? Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?
“Experts? Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them. Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”
When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:
“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.
“Neil Lennon was very smart coach. He closed Spartak options on the wings. Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings. Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders. But, our defenders were poor and slow.
“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings. What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”
“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back. Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”
Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.
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I believe the huns will go all the way to the league cup final to assure they get much needed funds if we can get the better of the cheating masons in the black we will meet them in the final.It is easy to see but hard to prove the establishement are giving them all the help they can.H.H.
Doc is Neil Lennon, 16:33
Thanks. I can only expand on stories after they are in the public domain – before that I can only provide tidbits.
It’ll all be in the book…
Great piece Paul.
Love the bit abt the Scottish experts told us Spartak wd win 2 nil. I demand to know the names of these “Scottish experts”.
Thanks Tony!
That would be great!! Always happy to meet a fellow Tim on foreign shores for a bevvy and some Tictalk!
Not quite sure how the admin side of this site works, what is the best way to contact Paul67?
Hail! Hail!
Not proven? Hahahahaha…..
……he did it,we heard it,but we cannae prove it?
….hahahaha..
…….I guess Campbell the hun Ogilvie did have his wee chat with the Yorkshire fraudster after all….a match made in hell…
….hahahahaha!
Miki67
You made a lot of sense earlier. We have to be positive and look at the good work going on at the club. I know there are always negatives such as Pl maybe being a bit frugal, and some of us taking umbridge at the DD statement. But I reckon our stock is rising and the hun demise is playing a big part in it. We are still a recognised worldwide as a massive club although we’re stuck in a small country. I imagine Tuesday’s result will have stirred the memory of fans all over Europe who remember when we were one of the dominant forces from 67-74, and it makes me feel proud to get that recognition again.
To have an average crowd of about 50k for games against St Mirren and Inverness etc is remarkable. The only teams above us crowd wise are playing against the likes of Chelsea, Bayern and Barcelona every week.
There’s no armagheddon here.
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Don`t know if it`s already been posted but this is the Google translation of the ” Stupid Scottish Experts ” referred to in Paul`s article:
“Youth “Celtic” is not able to withstand the experience of “Spartacus.” View from Scotland
FC Celtic Glasgow, Photo: © REUTERS
How strong is the Moscow “Spartak”? In Scotland know about Russian football? With the score will the match between the red-and-white and “Celtic” in Luzhniki? His views on these and other issues with shared Sportbox.ru correspondent national Scottish newspaper Daily Record, Craig Swan.
– What do you know about the opponent – Moscow “Spartacus”?
– Oh, a lot. This pilot disciplined team. I know that she is very good at defense. All Eastern teams are great on the counter, and this “Celtic” is to be feared. I guess we will not be easy. In “Spartacus” has many strong players such as Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, known to us, “Everton” EmmanuelEmenike, and of course, Aiden McGeady.
– And how much do you know Russian football in general?
– “Spartacus” for a long time and I know very well – to recall the record of 6 wins in 6 matches in the group stage of the Champions League. This “national” team, the most popular in Russia. But I know and other Russian and Soviet teams. For example, the Moscow “Dynamo”. This is also a club with a rich history that we have in Scotland is very loved and respected.
– What do you expect from a match with “Spartacus”?
– Very challenging game for our team. Russian clubs are very rich, they spend a lot of money on good players, increasing their level of football. Besides, as far as I know, “Spartacus” is very strong in home games. “Celtic” did not have the experience of similar games, so we will not be easy.
– But “Celts” – as mentioned by Unai Emery – hardened ligochempionskih battles …
– Yes, but if you remember the history of the club. And the current structure – very young children – in the European Cup almost did not play. For example, in a match with the “Benfica” consist of 11 players on the field, only one had previously played in the group stage of the Champions League. And all of these guys in our team three. Young guys have experience of international matches, but not in the group stage of the Champions League.
– However, with the “Benfica” “Celtic” tied.
– Yes, and it was a great result for our new team. Great success is the fact that the “Celtic” was able to get into the group. This will give impetus to the development of the club and help players gain experience. True, if you recall our previous performances at this stage, it appears that out of 18 away games, we lost 17.
– McGeady at the press conference, you asked about his transfer, which greatly helped the club financially …
– “Celtic” was forced to sell Aiden. Financial position of the club was unstable, and even now he has not the best of times. For example, five or six years ago, “Celtic” could afford a transfer of 6-8 million pounds. Now the most expensive purchase cost at about $ 2 million.
– Take the risk assumed, as will the match?
– I’m afraid, “Celtic” are big problems that will spill over into defeat. I suppose that “Spartacus” will win 2-0.
Artem Kalinin, Sportbox.ru”
JJ
Not only are we really good at the fitba’, we are musically adept, too. I love this: the g.b. mocking the zombie nation in a very clever way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuuO3JbY6Mc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
jungle jim16:49 on 4 October, 2012
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HHilarious!
Just been reminding a few City fans here of some CL stats
Champions of SPL 4pts
Champions of EPL. 1 pt
Paul McBride ,God rest him,proved the SFA were not fit for purpose ,after 5 minutes going through their “rule” book.Sevco’s lawyers are doing the same.
67Heaven, 16:34
Craig Whtye, to be grilled in an open court in November.
A lawyer says “it’s as near to public flogging as you can get these days”
Does anyone know which members from the SFA sat on the disciplinary committee today
miki67
Brilliant..
!!Bada Bing!!
Aye, you could drive a bus through their rules….
Now the rules that they make up as they go along !!!!!!
Danger snooze time on the Rug’len express zzzzzzz
CG
“Perhaps it is now time that those people within the SPL who have been pursuing Rangers at every turn take stock
Hasn’t chuck seen DD’S interview yet, maybe he is not inferring Celtic? must be some other SPL club :0)))))))
Grant Russell @STVGrant
SFL confirm League Cup fixture dates. Aberdeen v St M, Celtic v St J on Tues Oct 30, Dun Utd v Hearts, Rangers v ICT on Wed Oct 31.
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OG
So how are we going to identify CW being used/manipulated/put in a place during October which prevents him starting the process which brings the whole lot down? And can it be stopped?
Ah yes – the ole not proven verdict perfect unique to Scotland.
Much regaled by Donald Findlay *Victorian Dad* and his like.
Wonder if he had an input, if its good enough for heinous crimes like murder, it’s sure good enough for Sevco.
Will attending the open court grilling session of ole Craigy count as an away match on yir season book?
OG , cheers
stevo, 17:15
He’s in court in November and a lot could happen between now and then
ultimately I suppose he might not actually make it to court OG …..
conspiracy too far ….
Have never heard of not proven verdict at an SFA hearing
Either case upheld or not
Just looked at DR. There are seven mentions of the O** F*** on one page. If you repeat a
lie often enough and loud enough it is seen as the truth. Hunbeleivable, well maybe not
Great article Paul – laugh out loud stuff!!!!!
Think the last time we had “a brothel at the back” was in Bratislava (2005)!
Evening all (sounds of Dixon of Dock Green).
O.G. RAFFERTY,
Has the court case anything to do with his involvement with thon deid team fae Govan?
area 412
bramalea celtic supporters club for the games.
if you drink the dark stuff…mississauga irishclub
If you’re “eating” Benylin Philvis – you must be really ill – get well soon!!!!!
Have the SFA just made up another verdict to suit thon deid team?
Not proven isn’t really a logical verdict for what Greene had been charged with.
It’s not disputed he said what he said.
He’s either guilty or not guilty.
This lot couldn’t run a bath.
timHorton
I have been in both… o)
also been in old old Toronto(Tonys) and Windsor club…
Googybhoy wrote,
Just been reminding a few City fans here of some CL stats
Champions of SPL 4pts
Champions of EPL. 1 pt
And they’ll get skelped in Dortmund very soon!
I can’t believe that SFA have a not proven law..
ooops
I can…
What were the charges against chuckie?
Not proven does not mean not guilty.