Celtic’s win in Moscow on Tuesday has caused an interesting introspection in Russia, with both Spartak and some in the Russian media coming under scrutiny. The pre-match tone was set by comments we reported from former Spartak player and coach, Andrey Tikhonov, who, on the day of the draw, said:
“Barcelona are favourites from the group. We and Benfica will be fighting for second place.
“Celtic are outsiders. The Champions League competition is about very good technical football. It has nothing to do with running after the ball that somebody kicked forward.”
Another former Spartak player and Soviet international, who now works as a technical analyst and all-round raconteur , Aleksandr Bubnov, had a completely different take on Celtic, Spartak and the Russian and Scottish media.
Bubnov told Russian television:
“Spartak players thought they could push Celtic defenders around like toys. They played long crosses forward like the idiots. Celtic defenders knocked back everything. It was like training for Celtic, they were on holiday.
“When Celtic attacked for the first time, de Zeeuw thought that Insarualde would stop the Celtic player, Insarualde thought Pareja will stop him. When Celtic scored de Zeew asked, ‘Where was Pareja ?’ Pesjakov answered de Zeeuw, “You forgot? Pareja is still at the lunch, he will be back for the second half.”
Bubnov criticised TV analysts who before the game debated whether Celtic would survive in the bottom half of the Russian premier division or a lower division. He added:
“We were told by the experts that Spartak will shut Celtic out, kill them and bury outside the stadium. They are experts, they watch games, they take money for this kind of analysis. They told us Celtic are one story heroes.
“They talked about Rangers relegated to the fourth Division for financial cheating. You see how they do things there? What fantastic salvation. You are cheaters Rangers? OK, go and take long rest. Those in charge are professionals, nobody would help Rangers. They don’t go to the president, or the prime minister.
“Cherdantsev (TV expert) never played football. You heard him, Spartak players and all these experts. ‘No problem, champions of Scotland? Who are Celtic, who are Scotland?
“Experts? Did they watch Celtic against Benfica? Benfica are top in Portugal, Celtic drew with them. Even the stupid Scottish experts came here and told us Spartak would win 2-0.”
When asked how Spartak should play in the return game against Celtic, Bubnov suggested:
“You need to close wings and play carefully at the back. Celtic will not perform like Spartak did against Barcelona. They played and let the other team play.
“Neil Lennon was very smart coach. He closed Spartak options on the wings. Emeri (Spartak manager) should close Celtic wings. Emeri’s tactics was move wingers to the centre to leave more room for attacks from left and right defenders. But, our defenders were poor and slow.
“Emeri was stupid, he moved Aiden McGeady and Dmitri Kombarov to the centre because Neil Lennon closed wings. What happened? They both played out of position and Kombarov scored an own goal.”
“Spartak were open on the wings and there was a brothel at the back. Neil Lennon did what he wanted to do with Spartak”
Conversational Russian is apparently rich with imagery.
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stevo,
think the Irish Club, Wimbledon is your best bet. Home of Wimbledon South CSC. Should be raucous!
HH
P.S. Hartfield Rd!
blantyretim
19:22 on
4 October, 2012
HT
sure he wisnae a plant? o))
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BT that’s HT’s job,they call him the wallflower doon in ole Bar67.
O.G.Rafferty
19:24 on 4 October, 2012
Can you answer the points in my post at 19:21?
BT
Judging by the response from everyone in the group, they were all plants!!
Or maybe it was me…..;-)
Ps also got some crackin’ pictures of the signed Neil Lennon top on the wall!!!
It’s obvious Whyte hasn’t paid a penny, hence the recourse to a higher court.
£10 million pounds says he’s quite a player, or had the the ole Russians just never read Celtic supporters on CQN?
McGeadski CSC
Stevo,
have never seen the ole No Football Colours sign outside a boozer dahn sarff.
Maybe I wasn’t squinting the right way…!
HH
HT
This plant wasn’t a wee bug eyed fella wearing a pin stripe suit by any chance?
Glad to hear you made it there and back mate, with your sense of direction…..
BLANTYRE TIM 1913
Strange shifts in midweek.
Do a five-hour drive round Wiltshire,noon till 5pm Thursday,then back in for another five from 1am.
Body clock takes a beating-thankfully it’s not a proper job,haha!
Anyway,off to bed after the Spurs game-I might fall asleep just watching it,tbh-so you can all count down the minutes to get some peace……
ernie lynch 19:21
Sorry, I don’t know. Email Alex Thomson
ernie
from this morning:-
“setting free the bears
09:33 on 4 October, 2012
“How many games (football, involving Celtic, not golf) has he been to this season?”
What does this matter?
####
It’s an indication of his priorities”
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That kind of begs the further question as to how his priorities or a change in them would affect us? You’ll need to draw it out for me. As far as I know, the only thing I could deduce from his actual attendance at games would be that he was keen to see football played. It would give me no indication that he was willing to spend or invest more money (you can be a frugal non-absent landlord) or that he was more active in Celtic’s interest.
What good would he be in watching a game?
I believe he has set a strategy and he has people in place to implement it who understand it. His being there neirther adds nor subtracts anything from us; it is purely a personal decision on whether he wants to watch football.
I see there is a small debate about Aiden going on.
My opinion is that while Aiden was a good player for us I really don’t think we’ve missed him. James Forrest, while not as technically gifted as Aiden has a better end result. James will go by a man then get the cross in. Too many times Aiden frustrated by tryin to beat the man again.
THE EXILED TIM
19:31 on 4 October, 2012
‘It’s obvious Whyte hasn’t paid a penny, hence the recourse to a higher court.’
If he hasn’t paid One Stop just enforce the Sheriff Court decree, they don’t need to go anywhere near the Court of Session.
Hamiltontim 19:21:
Please tell me you retorted immediately…”You’ll feel right at home here then”
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
After reading this I am off to the pub
http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/blogging-addiction-or-conviction/
VP
voguepunter
19:26 on
4 October, 2012
blantyretim
19:22 on
4 October, 2012
HT
sure he wisnae a plant? o))
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BT that’s HT’s job,they call him the wallflower doon in ole Bar67.
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I thought that was one of your shirts I was sat next to ;-)
Che
I followed the trail of broken dreams and promises!
ERNIE LYNCH 1921
Presumably he hasn’t coughed up.
He was close to personal bankruptcy earlier in the week following action from his former legal team,presumably also over unpaid bills.
I wonder if he ever pays for ANYTHING?
Jings, crivvens, and aider mon boaby
still fightin like monkeys on bucky here
can I join in?
sumbdy tell me what its about
Lennybhoy
“Well you’re in the right &*%$#! place!”
I believe was my response.
I did laugh before saying it but sadly it didn’t seem to lesson the blow ;-)
HT
Mmm there’s 2 trails like that in the south side fella.
Anyway bet your EIS rep had his mobile handy all day long.
Ht,talking of shirts ,the ref in the Spurs,shooorly that’s an old city cash tailors top
He’s wearing.
panafinik….panathenik…. the Greeks score and the hinglish commentator can’t
understand it.
Words of great wisdom from commentators on ITV4 regarding the Tottenham game-
“Goals changes games”
… Thanks
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
19:40 on 4 October, 2012
‘ERNIE LYNCH 1921
Presumably he hasn’t coughed up.’
That’s a given.
Even so I don’t understand how he will end up giving evidence in the Court of Session.
In any case One Stop’s lawyers had a change to maul him in the Sheriff Court and didn’t.
VOGUEPUNTER 1942
Do you think his mum bought it for his birthday?
Looks like he got it from the cover of Sgt Pepper.
SFTB
Some supporters want their ‘big guns’ to go to every game like eh – Sir Minty once did.
A better extended question in the DD debate would have been how many AGM’s has he seen? – given he’s hands off, and hands on to PL, who really who cares.
As for his recent quote I still think he was being cute.
voguepunter
19:22 on 4 October, 2012
‘Bring back the bould bhoy’s,there’s a ghuy who can speak his mind’.
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That’s a point….has the man come back yet to apologise for his multi-page foul mouthed rant and abuse the other night?
ERNIE LYNCH 1946
True,but I doubt they will be so gentle given a second chance.
Anyway,he’s history-until he pops up with the floating charges!
BMCUWP
Sgt Pepper…….? nuuup,you’ll have to enlighten me my friend.
Good to see AT still on the scent.
Spurs are crap,we’d run rings roon them.
Hamiltontim 19:41:
Proud of you my Bhoy.
Was there a few years ago, work conference. Wore my green suit, stood up and said my name…I’m Sunday name, some of you know me and know this fact, for those that don’t know me, I’m a Celtic Supporter. A true story.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
zbyszek.
You have mail.
Che
This is one of those rare occasions when it’s handy BEING the union rep!!
Bale needed a big Sammi like characte rfor that cross.
VOGUEPUNTER 1948
Looks a bit like Ringo’s outfit
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531/the-beatles-sgt-peppers-lonely-hearts-club-band-19691231
I read today that Sevco have changed their accounting date, usually this is an extension to prevent bad news getting into the public domain.
It also delays completion and submission of audited accounts, not normally an issue unless you are looking for finance or a UEFA licence.
VP
‘City Cash Tailors’??
Nope, doesn’t ring a bell.
BMCUWP
Ziggy must be ahead of that nonsense.