Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants? Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.
Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage. We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog. It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially. I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog. If not, I want to know why.
So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.
When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value. Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature. This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.
When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.
“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.
“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football? Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.
“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.
“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.
“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.
“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.
“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”
Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally. Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.
And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division. A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team. Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!
One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.
Pop! And they’re gone!
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can we have Tom Jones on the park today signing Tax Bomb?
Scarves, banners, green and white hoops…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V_Aysau0zE4#!
YNWA.
WB.
Starry- I’m hoping there are a few good banners there today, pointing out the differences between us and them
Good morning friends from a fairly bright, sunny but breezy East KIlbride.
Quite emotional today with the thought that I’ll soon be travelling to my last ever Celtic v Rangers game. Well, laughter and happiness are emotions, right?
Had an absolutely fantastic evening last night at The Kano Foundation end of season bash and great to meet so many CQN-ers. Apologies to those that I’ve since forgotten but a big Sunday ‘hello’ to…MWD, Celticrollercoaster, The Token Tim, Tommytwiststommyturns, Kingoh, Sannabhoy, bjmac, praecepta. And even got to shake the hand of the great man himself, Paul67. What a community we have on here.
Enjoy today Bhoys and Ghirls but, more than anything, stay safe
I also think the ref will be even more MIB’d up that usual and for that reason alone I think we should all applaud and cheer every decision that is given against us.
Remember what happened in 1999 when Hugh Dallas was struck by a coin. After the match Celtic and Celtic supporters were blamed. I was at that game and it was a horrible atmosphere. I couldn’t believe the match reports after- they had no correlation with my own experience of actually being there. If anything happens today, then I will not be surprised if Celtic and it’s fans are blamed to some extent, regardless of actual guilt.
Anyway,how more galling could it be than to be applauded and cheered for every “wrong” or controversial or penalising decision you make? To know that plan A isn’t working? That today at least, the result doesn’t really matter.
Does it really matter who wins today? The game’s up for Rangers (IA), they know it and we know it. This could be the last chance for others to try to show that “we are as bad as them”.
The only and best way to sing the Billy boys is to laugh it. why not extend the same courtesy to the refs by cheering their incorrect decisions that are meant to affect our team and us?
And you get to have a good old laugh at a Celtic Rangers (IA) match.
Laughter is the best medicine csc
Be safe lads and I will see you at the game
Stairheed
Good morning bhoys
Re the demo to humpdthen .
the SPL chairmen voting for on the CHEATS CHARTER on Monday ,must be really confused .
On the one hand they must be thinking that they are being asked to vote in the club formally known as ragers .
Then they watch 5,000/7,000/10,000 (it’s like a Jelivik transfer bid) walking to Hampden demanding they vote against it .
It’s like an old episode of SOAP .
C,mon you bhoys in GREEN .
blantyretim on 29 April, 2012 at 08:52
said:
BRILLIANT
67Heaven:
Never ever forget… they could not have done what they did without the endorsement (encouragement) of the banks and the media (and the SFA/SPL/Authority).
They can hate if they want to, I could hate too but I’d rather not.
I hear those gallant Knights of blue can only muster £5 million.It appears that all the rich huns do,”do walking away.”
… oh and singaporetim too…
Stairheedrammy on 29 April, 2012 at 08:53 said:
We’re Celts Mate, creative and passionate and they’re well they’re no, they’ve betrayed their heritage for a butchers apron..
A skelpin’ we will go!!
As ole Jack Kerouac sang;
“Blues have no meaning”
Ain’t we got fun
Favourite hun game…?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDPQILYRFg8
……There’s yer Thunder !
What do Hell’s Angels do when they retire and what do huns do when the mirror grows a conscience.
Hail Hail, the Celts are here,
What the hell do we care,
What the hell do we care,
Hail Hail, the Celts are here,
What the hell do we care now…
For its a grand old team to play for,
For its a grand old team to see,
And if you know the history,
Its enough to make your heart go,
Nine-in-a-row
We don’t care what the animals say,
What the hell do we care,
For we only know,
That there’s gonna be a show,
And the Glasgow Celtic will be there.
Sure it’s the best darn team in Scotland
and the players they are Grand,
“We support the Celtic”
‘cos they are the finest in the land.
We’ll be there to give the bhoys a cheer
When the League Flag flies,
And the cheers go up ‘cos we know the Scottish Cup
is coming home to rest at Paradise.
Get in to them
Hail Hail
http://youtu.be/gc7oeP1LRw8
Only could find the original version of this song, if anyone has a version of someone singing a Celtic version I would love to see it.
Oh Hampden Park was crowded
The fans began to roar
The Rangers fans were singing
Of the sash their father wore.
But very soon
The changed their tune
When the Celtic plan was set,
For Lennox crossed to Billy McNeill
And the ball was in the net!
Chorus
Putting on the agony
Putting on the style
One, two, three, four lovely goals
Scoring all the while.
There’s nothing in this whole wide world
That makes you want to smile
Like watching Glasgow Celtic
Putting on the style
Now Lennox he caused trouble
With his running through
And from a long ball from defence
He made it number two.
All that day he worked his way
To make the Rangers prance
And the Celtic End went round the bend
Doing the victory dance
Chorus
Now just before the interval
Came goal number three
And this time it was slotted in
By young george Connelly
in his first cup final
A day he’ll not forget
When he walked the ball round big John Greig
Into the Rangers net.
Chorus
Chalmers was our centre
He gave his all and more
And to him fell the honour
Of scoring number four.
A dribble down the left wing
A shot which goalward sped
And once again the Scottish Cup
Was resting at Parkhead.
Chorus
Oops,and hello to Celtic Soul Brother too…
Right, off to early Mass in the expectation that I might not be in a fit state for the evening mass later on…
Take care everybody,
Alistair McCoist gives us an interesting lesson in moral philosophy, perhaps without realising it. He seems to say that to relegate Rangers to the Third Division would be the ‘moral ‘ thing to do. But then he makes the amazing leap in judgement by saying that it would not be the ‘correct’ thing to do. This leaves us to conclude that to do the correct thing would be immoral. Well I ask you – is this where we are in Scotland in the 21st century? He then goes on to say that Rangers (and he adds Celtic) are different and should have different treatment from other clubs. Well I do not remember any such clamour in the early 1990’s for separate treatment for Celltic. So that seems to leave Rangers standing alone where they always have been.After all – ‘they are the peepil’!
Morning all,
40 minutes walk from Paradise and it’s looking like a perfect day for football. Blue sky, sun and hardly a breath of wind. Deceptively cold though.
Been up since 7.30 with that knot in the stomach from knowing that there’s a big party this afternoon. Off to the game nice and early, cup of tea and some chips from one of the vans and just soak in the build up and the atmosphere. Into town for a couple of beers after.
Come on you bhoys on green.
S
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest and down below in the asylum 160,000 huns could be heard singing “Hello! Hello!….”
You must make effort to understand the hun, and pity them if you can, after all, they are a product of Neanderthals.
Just listening back to yesterday’s bbc sportsound and the administrators are telling Richard Gordon that Miller and them have been talking to SFA/SPL and are confident that they will take Millers bid in 48hrs
Bearing in mind Miller wants no further penalties ,how the hell is this guy still in the picture .
Surely UEFA must look into this situation ASAP .
hail hail
I see the intrepid Channel 4 reporter has a ticket for today. Breakfasting in the Gallowgate.
2 tickets for today’s match for sale to highest bidder.
Proceeds to Niamh Curry .
Only 15 mins left to bid for to see potentially the last ever Glasgow Derby.
Current highest bid sits at £130 .
Bids close at 9.30am
TT
BK2 searching for loose change down the back of the sofa, mad windy miller wanting no more footballing sanctions, Liquidation looms ever closer. This week??
kitalba –
Been away having dinner.
I agree with you.
Hate is a very strong and ultimately negative emotion. Oh yes, it can have its place, but it is wasted on them.
I would rather say – I hate what they stand for and what they represent.
huge challenge for a young team today, leaving the honest awarding of red cards to us but not to them issue aside, Rangers exploited our weaknesses well at the halting site. we can expect them to do the same especially if we don’t have pace like JF. Days like this are made for lennie
All for the Huns going pop
As for Mccoist he’s in the position he deserves
Lady karma has worked his ticket
If I were a hun I’d probably attack him in the street or send him a bail bomb
Thankfully I’m not and I’m happy simply to despise the cretin
Come in Celtic smash them today … Please
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540552_3834411978312_1218327856_33676755_942807520_n.jpg
Heard the funniest wee sniper last night. Not sure how much truth in it but if true then the Huns 2 brain cells are floating in a wilderness of nothingness trying to outsmart one another.
Douglas Park – Blue Knight
Douglas Park – Provides buses for Rangers team travelling to and from games.
Douglas Park also provides at cost Celtic Team bus and have done for years.
This is the funny bit.
Douglas Park provides buses for Scottish National team and SFA blazers.
Huns are going to boycott Parks of Hamilton.
MWD
And their new home.
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/166811_1804813758192_1175312874_32145165_3716618_n.jpg
fergus slayed the blues on 29 April, 2012 at 09:13 said:
How long have they proclaiming that an acceptable bid is just around the corner? How many times have they claimed discussions with SFA/SPL/HMRC/NASA ?
Best ignored until it actually happens.
S
Morning all. Beautiful day here in North Ayrshire.
Hopefully, the sun will be shining on the righteous this afternoon. While I yearn from them to disappear into the ether, I am more concerned about the retribution they will try and meet out to anyone they find. Be careful one and all.
One act of accusation is worth one thousand denials.
MWD
That does ring true and is another example of their twisted logic. They’ve really got the campaign going now: marching and shouting at an empty building, booing a bookies and boycotting the buses. Brilliant!
A very good morning to one and all.
Title party today.
HH