Morals and hypocrisy, McCoist nails it, then asks you to bend over

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Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants?  Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.

Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage.  We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog.  It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially.  I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog.  If not, I want to know why.

So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.

When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value.  Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature.  This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.

When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.

“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.

“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football?  Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.

“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.

“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.

“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.

“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.

“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”

Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally.  Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.

And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division.  A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team.  Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!

One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.

*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.

Pop!  And they’re gone!

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  1. Morning Bhoys and Ghirls of the Worldwide Celtic Family, after a long long week of waiting the day is finally come..

     

     

    Let’s show the huns why we are the Champions, I would love to see wee Gary Hooper get on the scoresheet today, looking forward to seeing Lenny’s team selection.

     

     

    Starry

  2. West Wales Celt on

    Up-over-the-goal:

     

    I like that team/formation.

     

    Come on Celtic, a second chance to make history.

     

    Lets nail what could well be the last ever Glasgow derby…

  3. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    lionroars67 on 29 April, 2012 at 08:05 said:

     

    The generations of Celts before us…………. who deserved to see the dawning of this day.

     

    Result today unimportant.

     

    The unveiling of blatant and ongoing corruption is the big picture.

     

    A celebration of decency at the Holy Grail today,unimpaired by the result.

     

    Mind you,a wee win would be nice.

  4. Good Morning from deepest darkest Dumfries&Galloway (near the English border) BT, are you in with the prawn sandwich brigade today?

  5. Oh and by the way, and on my faith this is true, at mass this morning, the band played…………………………… Walk On.

     

     

    I don’t know what it meant to anybody else but I had a father’s wee proud moment when I met my wee boys eye and he smiled knowingly.

     

     

    I thought my heart was cramping.

  6. Malorbhoy

     

    sadly not got a brief.. last minute hitch..

     

     

    Dad will be at the park already probably 0))

     

    he will try and pick me one up..

  7. Good morning cqn

     

    To all you good bhoys going to paradise today,enjoy the game and show the world how real football fans support their team.

     

    Today reminds me of when the Huns done 9iar second.

     

    We were down as a support but fergus made sure we would not be put down again.We have the biggest club stadium in Scotland and the big cup to trump anything the Huns ever do .

     

    So Celtic just go out and win……win…..win

     

    And send the beast on its way to hell with our songs and chants.

     

     

    Glasgow Celtic champions

     

     

    Glasgow Celtic champions

     

     

    Glasgow Celtic champion

     

     

    Thefutureisbrightitsgreenandwhite csc

  8. Tom behind the attempts at wit is concern. I just can’t bring myself to hate them like they hate us and if the truth be known I still do not wish them dead. I want them to pay back all that they owe and I want them to be honest admission of their deceit and I want us to live up to our name of Celtic Supporters.

     

     

    All inclusive and a capacity somewhere for forgiveness.

     

     

    I know that goes against the grain and I know I might be in a big minority, but that is just me so vain in my wish I play to the consensus but I’d rather the hun were acceptable with morals and responsibility rather than dead.

     

     

    I just don’t hate the hun but I love taking the piss out of them.

  9. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 29 April, 2012 at 08:14 said:

     

    lionroars67 on 29 April, 2012 at 08:05 said:

     

    The generations of Celts before us…………. who deserved to see the dawning of this day.

     

    Result today unimportant.

     

    The unveiling of blatant and ongoing corruption is the big picture.

     

    A celebration of decency at the Holy Grail today,unimpaired by the result.

     

    Mind you,a wee win would be nice.

     

     

    Agreed a wee win will be the proverbial cherry on the top, wee song for today

     

    Bye Bye Rangers

     

     

    Yo ho ho, off we go

     

    What do you know, it’s nine in a row

     

    Bye bye Rangers

     

    Celtic’s on the ball again, on the way to make it ten

     

    Bye bye Rangers

     

     

    You can talk about your great defenders

     

    Sing and shout about your No Surrender

     

    But let us give you this wee tip

     

    We’ll be there for the league and the cup

     

    Rangers bye bye

     

     

    Yo ho ho, off we go

     

    What do you know, it’s nine in a row

     

    Bye bye Rangers

     

    Celtic’s on the ball again, on the way to make it ten

     

    Bye bye Rangers

     

     

    You can talk about your great defenders

     

    Sing and shout about your No Surrender

     

    But let us give you this wee tip

     

    We’ll be there for the league and the cup

     

    Rangers bye bye

     

     

    But let us give you this wee tip

     

    We’ll be there for the league and the cup

     

    Rangers bye bye

  10. Why I Follow Celtic

     

     

    Sometimes I’ve been asked by one man or another

     

    Why do I follow Celtic, why do I take the bother

     

    But he must be a fool, who would ask me such a question

     

    So then how can I explain, try to tell him what he’s missing

     

    And it’s 1, 2, 3, Celtic for me

     

    Not a team in the world like the Celtic

     

     

    If a man has never seen Glasgow Celtic when they’re playing

     

    He mustn’t have a soul, mustn’t know what he is saying

     

    And if he’s never heard when the Celtic crowd is cheering

     

    Then there’s nothing I can say but he must be hard of hearing

     

    And it’s 1, 2, 3, Celtic for me

     

    Not a team in the world like the Celtic

     

     

    When Celtic are in Parkhead I am proud to be there with them

     

    Soon they play again but sadly I do miss them

     

    They’re the team for me, their could never be another

     

    And then some fool wil ask, why do I take the bother

     

    And it’s 1, 2, 3, Celtic for me

     

    Not a team in the world like the Celtic

     

     

    So if anyone should ask and you want to give a reason

     

    Tell him go and find himself a ticket for the season

     

    And when he’s been to Parkhead and seen the Celtic playing

     

    Well it won’t be very long until you will hear him saying

     

    Why do I take the bother

     

    And it’s 1, 2, 3, Celtic for me

  11. GourockEmeraldBhoy on

    Good morning all…

     

    Just heading out for a liquid breakfast before bus time, hope you all enjoy the game.

     

     

    Be safe and KTF

     

     

    HH…

  12. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    kitalba on 29 April, 2012 at 08:23 said:

     

     

    I don’t normally do hate but, having witnessed the institutional bias / bigotry all my life, when football is supposed to be a sport, I have no liking for them AT ALL …… THEY EXIST TO HATE, and Society can do without that ……. I am really looking forward to going to Paradise (and perhaps to away games) to see SPORT as it should be, honest competition, with each team plaing within the Laws of the Game, ….the HIGHS of a win, and the LOWS OF A DEFEAT ….. not the lows of having been repeatedly shafted……..

     

     

    Bye bye rankers, you have been caught red-handed (pardon the ironic pun)

     

     

    C’mon the HOOPS…..!!!!!!!!!

  13. For we only know

     

    That there’s going to be a show

     

    And the Glasgow Celtic will be there.

     

     

    Off to Café Ole in Denia today to watch the game. Beautiful blue skies, 23 degrees and warm sunshine.

  14. Port Glasgows Green and White. (And Sunny!)

     

    No need for an alarm clock this morning, up an hour early, tossed and turned all night,bit of a dodgy belly with the nerves, you know what I think the love of these games has gone.

     

    Lets get a victory today Bhoys, no mad predictions, just a win and hopefully in the coming weeks we will not see their likes again.

     

     

    hail hail

  15. Auction for 2 tickets for today’s match.

     

    Proceeds to Naimh Curry.

     

    Please resubmit all offers before the 9.30 am deadline.

     

    I am in Glasgow so tickets can be transferred at the Stadium or The Thistle Hotel.

     

     

    Common bhoys get bidding .

     

    The highest acceptable offer so far is £ 130 for the pair .

     

    Although Tomtheleedstim made a fantastic offer of £200 but I couldn’t get in touch with him to make that happen.

     

    I will check Back in @ 9.15 ,and then again at 9 .30 for the deadline.

     

    TY

  16. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    GourockEmeraldBhoy on 29 April, 2012 at 08:36 said:

     

     

    Have always liked that expression ……. KTF

  17. roy croppie on 29 April, 2012 at 08:33 said:

     

     

    Huns actually believe ,we like that wee

     

    sleekit shoite.

     

     

    Morning all,anyone looking for buttons?

     

    My erse overproducing.

     

     

    Oh and,great posts through the night

     

    from our Aussie bhoys GCT/kitalba,

     

    so much better than the claptrap from

     

    Sydneytim :O)

  18. Stairheedrammy on

    Come on you bhoys in green. Been up since 6 and spent most of that time in the bog- nerves so obvious that the wife asked if I was on speed

     

     

    HH

  19. As much as i want our Bhoys to slaughter them today i’m praying that they all get of the field today without serious injury.

     

     

    Would like to think we have been training all week in the art of dummying, would be lovely to see the fraudsters tackling thin air

     

     

    The vile sleekit fat man will send his thugs out to do damage and he also knows that he will get away with it.

     

     

    We will have to be at our very best today.

     

     

    KTF

  20. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    Good morning one and all. Looking forward to going to the game later. Don’t feel nervous yet.

     

     

    A thought has just occurred to me about the dark side. Didn’t they have a big advertising campaign a couple of years ago around one of the big Rabbie Burns anniversaries that went: “If Rabbie was alive today he’d be a Rangers supporter”.

     

     

    It’s just occurred to me that Rabbie worked as an Excise man. Oh the irony.

  21. Stairheedrammy on

    Leaving soon to get the wee mans paper round done then heading to Paradise early- transporting the one love banner

  22. Liquid breakfasts not allowed outside in the Port anymore, the ole plod are always heavy handed and search the bus before we leave, but I always manage to sneak a small refreshment on. The hun pubs do not recieve the same treatment.

     

     

    HH

  23. If two wrongs don’t make a right then in the hun psyche try a dozen, damn it… try one hundred, bugger that, why limit yourself.

  24. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy

     

     

    Wee, sleekit, cowrin, tim’rous beastie, O, what a … What then? poor beastie, thou maun live! A daimen icker … Small, sleek, cowering, timorous beast, O, what a …

     

     

    That’s me back to thinkin’ about him again!

     

    Cmon the Hoops

  25. Good morning celticbhoy, Roy croppie and no, I’M Neil Lennon “i’ll never walk alone” (fourstonecoppi ) on 29 April, 2012 at 08:45 said:

     

     

     

    It is a cold wet Manchester. There is a marathon on here today and the weather is miserable. Horrible weather to run in.

     

     

    Good luck to them.

     

     

    Good luck to.all the Bhoys today on and off the pitch.

     

     

    Oooppps got to go. First job of the day.

  26. Stairheedrammy on 29 April, 2012 at 08:46 said:

     

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    Touche

     

    Busy toilet in this household this morning.

     

     

     

    HH

  27. Remember to get your last ever Celtic v Huns souvenir Match Programme today.

     

     

    You could text your hun mates and ask if they want you to get them one as a memento.

     

    It will be a collectors item one day.