Do you remember the early days of Celtic Quick News when one wit suggested this was a blog for accountants? Our early years did a great deal to bring a wider understanding of accounts and finance to Celtic fans – which was a good thing.
Today your fan of Scottish football needs to know about more than the game and amortisation, a semester or two in law school is an enormous advantage. We touch on legal matters here but last night I enjoyed reading the forensic analysis on the wonderful Duff and Phelps on the Web 3D Law blog. It’s worth 10 minutes of your day, each day, the most recent blog especially. I also assume you are all keeping an eye on the substantial thoughts on Paul McConville’s blog. If not, I want to know why.
So much for accounts and the law, today I want to discuss philosophy with you.
When football-types talk about morality and hypocrisy they are usually worth listening to, if only for comedic value. Anyone experiencing the Scottish media will not doubt that morality is subjective and chameleon in nature. This question has exercised great minds for centuries, if only they had the benefit of our effervescent radio luminaries.
Despite being metaphorically surrounded by morally opportunistic hypocrites, Ally McCoist felt so secure in his demands for Rangers that he didn’t dodge the issue yesterday.
When asked if Rangers should be kicked out of the SPL he accepted it “might be the right thing to do morally and people will have their own opinions on it, with differences far and varied.
“There’s an argument the right thing to do is for Rangers to go down to the Third Division and that might be the case if it’s a Newco after liquidation.
“But is it the correct thing to do for Scottish football? Probably not. Everybody’s got a dilemma and that’s why there are so many opinions on it.
“Whether people like it or not, Rangers and Celtic are different because of the size and magnitude of the two clubs.
“Supporters of other clubs and some Old Firm supporters say you can’t have rules for some clubs and not for others.
“In an ideal world, that would be 100 per cent correct. I would absolutely and totally agree with that.
“But the fact of the matter is we’re asking if it would be good for the rest of the SPL if Rangers went down to the Third Division? The answer has to be no.
“I don’t envy the people who have to make that decision. I can understand the hypocrisy of it but Rangers and Celtic are different.”
Rangers are different – no dispute about that, Ally. Celtic are different again, but if it is hypocritical and morally wrong to provide support for these clubs which has never been extended to a smaller club, we cannot subvert our sport – and remember, the word SPORT implies that outcomes are determined on a level playing field – Rangers must be treated no differently than Gretna.
And just one correction for Ally: liquidation-and-phoenix would not see Rangers drop to the Third Division. A Newco in the Third Division would not have dropped from anywhere, it would be a new company and new football team. Rangers would, in these circumstances, go pop!
One* team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
One team in Glasgow,
There’s only one team in Glasgow.
*excluding, juniors, youths, lower leagues, amateurs and Celtic Ladies.
Pop! And they’re gone!
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Hey Hamilton I noticed you went to st Andrews teaching college
I lived about 4 mins walk from
There for 30 years
Just across from bus stop
I remember John Paul 2 landing there in his bcal helicopter
My mother went there in early 70’s
S
CELTIC CHAMPS ELECT 0032
Funny you should say that,I’m a great believer in only wearing what I feel comfortable in.
And the only opinions which matter to me come from people who matter to me.
Everyone else is an irrelevance.
You wear what you like,bud. Who am I-who is anyone-to be the arbiter of taste?
BTW,for anyone else who is heading in the direction of CCE tomorrow,you might want to nip into the barras for a perrashades….
Evening Bhoys and Ghirls
Just in from a very good nite for The Kano Foundation, meeting up with a few CQNers.
For all those that emailed me re CQN badges, I will email you back later tonight after we have skelped the huns.
HH
CRC
TET, you said about 2 yrs ago you were goin tae bed, cause Mrs TET, was goin to the carboot sale, get yersel tae bed, an efter the sale watch the Famous Glasgow Celtic smash the huns.
Bma
The tombstone will read:
Exposed
Beaten
Terminated
Goodnight Celtic family and God bless. Good people on here and a credit to our brilliant club.
2manymagnersfrommorrisonsCFC
BMCUW
My mate, CT on here, has been into CQN for years and was always trying to get me involved too. I used to stay at his most Saturday night’s and often I’d be awoken from a drunken slumber with him dragging me into his room (mmm that don’t sound good!) to read a particular post or invariably to see the next edition of the ‘bunker’ from ibrox!!
Apart from that it never really interested me and from what I read I felt that most of the posters were detatched from my thinking and understanding of Celtic. I certainly wouldn’t have wanted some of them at my side on a dark night leaving an away game at Hearts or the huns.
I was wrong. I’ve been fortunate enough to meet a few of the guys from this site and I’ve found them to be decent, honest, passionate, articulate, supportive, emotional but most of all I’ve found them to be great fun.
Ye should try it some time :-))
ST
We always seem to miss each other!!
I spent 4 years up there and stayed in the halls of residence for two of those. Some of the best memories of my short life happened in that spell!
Did you stay close to the Abbotsford then?
Celtic Champs Elect on 28 April, 2012 at 23:26 said:
hey bhoys doing that old hospitality shi* in the morning pick up at 10.20 suited and booted if any cqns in the walfrid suite give me a holler grey coat grey strides pink shirt and bruno magli grey shoes canny wait will be the last ever game against them the big hoose is about to shut for good from a very reliable and always on the money source.
==========================
Not the same bruno maglis you stole off the narcotised Kilwinning Hun muppet 20 years ago, big fella? Nice to see their still weairng well ;) And the good ole’ white court shirt, too? But got put in with the missus’ red stockings I see…
Enjoy the slaughter.
Anyone got absolute word on the Million Brain Cells March today?
Did the big doors of the big stand at Hampden need counselling after being shouted at by a nauseating mass of 500 (read ‘200,000’ inHunday Mail) XXXL blue condoms with tatties stuffed in them?
Did the storming of the Winter Palace bring about revolution?
Hamiltontim
So you stayed in the shoeboxes
No not beside abbotsford inn( dump)
I lived up the lane in front of the main busstop outside
Went to School at st andrews next door to Norte Dame( its old name) and went there every day to a wee canteen upstairs to wait for my mum
My cousin was a nun there also
I see you see a lot of it in taggart when it became a film studio when college closed
Used to play football every Sunday there and swim also in the pool
All gone now I hear to become new bearsden academy
Ah memories
Wish I was hame this weekend:(
Just had a drink fueled premonition
The Fat One will be forced to step down from his job having
suffered medical problems and thus not actually being around
when the axe eventually falls.
After all he must have learned something from working with the
Myth
ST
Yes some great memories. Scored a hat trick on that red ash park and very nearly drowned in the pool!
Did my first ever teaching practice in St Andrew’s Primary, hated it , give me Possil any day.
CRC
You’re home early!
love
and the the perception of it
that’s the difference
am glad am a tim
am part of magic
With the family tonight.
Canny get a word in.
Everyone bevvied and talking nineteen to the dozen.
But really interesting.
Richard Dawkins, auld Scots pronunciation, spangles, the odd fascination with gaelic song and the melody in words we don’t understand, talking about Whitecrook, about philosophy at university, about alcohol.
Taking a wee break to keep the harmony, cos its not always happy families.
So I love this wee bit of the Internet where I write stuff.
HAMILTON TIM 0110
I don’t doubt it at all.
The point I was making is hat because it’s a blog,you don’t necessarily need to physically know someone to have a discussion with them,an empathy or even an enmity.
Yes,it’s cool to put faces to the names,and it’s important to read what a poster is trying to say.
Both of those things can affect your response.
You can get too close,or the opposite can occur where the default is-oh,it’s that eejit again,haud oan tae I rip him a new one.
The cyber-equivalent of lighting the blue touchpaper and running away.
And all the better for it.
I don’t doubt that if I stayed in Scotland I would be making my way to some of the CQN haunts.
Equally,there’s a huge part of me would resist,because it isnae my style.
And that takes us back to the original point………..
Jude 2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 28 April, 2012 at 21:29 said:
How much does it cost to run a Race Night?
Good night CQN,
Tomorrow finish them, we do not need them, they offer nothing to scottish football or scottish society, bury them.
Bma
BMCUW
I wasn’t being critical, or if I was that wiznae my intention.
Could I have lived my life without meeting any of the posters from CQN? Of course.
However, I’d much prefer to meet someone, have a pint and discuss with them face to face. I suspect that you’re the same. For that reason I thought it to be prudent to meet some of the people so I knew who I was talking shite to when I pressed my keyboars :-))
ST
St Andrews College ground is now the new Bearsden Acadamy. The old one is now expensive houses.
e tims saying they have info on david murray and succulent lamb brigade,
they say traynor and roddy involved and why they are afraid of outing murray
they have tweeted alex thomson and have offered to meet him tomorrow as
he will be up for the game
Two brothers were at St Andrews, before they went on to have fantastic careers, both started as teachers, an then moved on in later life, both people I look on as role models.
Eh Kafflik schools
Bma
HAMILTON TIM
Just get that picture in your mind of what the author is trying to convey,how he was feeling at the time,what he was trying to hide.
How does what is written relate to what is meant?
Or to put it another way,if there isnae a smiley at the end of a comment,is it an insult?
If there IS a smiley at the end of an insult,am I meant to ignore it?
The smiley or the insult?
HT,yer right.
Better meeting face-to-face. That way you can judge a person better,as a rule.
Maybe that’s why new posters complain about a clique on here. Everyone only feels comfortable with the known.
Ach,too deep. Gaun tae ma cot.
Pity,TANGLED UP IN BLUE just kicked in.
Two sisters went to St Andrews, and a friend of mine.
So we went to the wee union they had, and loved the lassies there.
You can take the boy out of Clydebank…
I remember running through Bearsden gardens, jumping hedges, singing rebs.
On the way to the taxis at the station.
Ah miss that stuff.
Rascar,
You’d fit in in Greenock………………
Bma
Rasper
What years was that?
Hamiltontim
My sisters are primary teachers, I don’t think you would know them.
My brother teaches language, but never studied at Bearsden.
My pal never graduated, maybe just as messed up as me.
Nightshift and just managed to catch up with all the posts.
Maybe I’m a born pessimist, but I don’t think we will be allowed to win tomorrow.
In the interests of public order, Fattie Salmond will have got word down to the SFA and MIBs that sporting integrity can be ‘suspended’ for the day.
Any attempts to stand up to Elbow and co’s thuggery will be met with cards. Penalties, handballs and offsides will all favour the hun.
It will therefore be like pretty much every game against them in the last 3 or 4 years.
This is their final Hurrah, in their eyes the glorious and dignified honour game. They will likely win it and each and every hun will be able to tell his grandchildren where he was when the bearz put the fenians to the sword just when those self same fenians were putting the boot into poor dignified Rangers.
Be prepared to be appalled by the behaviour of their players , management and support. Also be prepared for officialdom and MSM’s parallel universe in terms of running the game and describing the events and aftermath.
Please be carefull after the game cause if there is one thing we know about the huns, apart from their stupidity it is their ability to be bad winners as well as losers.
I hope I am wrong but I don’t see a happy outcome from this one.
It’s probably just as well Lenny is in the stand for this one.
HH
Rasper
It’s the primary sector I work in mate.
skyisalandfill on 29 April, 2012 at 02:23 said:
I hear you. I dont care if the cheat again tomorrow for the 10,000th time. Its their Swan Song. Hopefully, Mibbery doesnt show itself and Celtic win as they would normally in all fair do’s. The last game was a disgrace!
hamiltontim on 29 April, 2012 at 02:29 said:
BMCUWP were only admiring you from afar last night. He is a wise man. Funny too.
oops BMCUWP and myself
skyisalandfill on 29 April, 2012 at 02:23 said:
I beg to differ.
Not long in from the Kano Night – terrific turnout and nice to meet quite a few of the CQN blog regulars.
Off to bed laughing – passed a crowd of our young Bhoys on the way home marching down the road chanting: Craig Whyte’s Fenian Army!
Heh! Heh! – bound to have upset a few of the neighbours.
Margaret. I think our best hope is to start out fast and direct and get an early goal. That could upset the Mibbery. It could also drive the bad guys onto levels of hacking that even C Murray won’t be able to ignore.
Howeva, if this is the case they make even worse losers than they do winners and El Presidente may have his worse fears realised.
Cheery bugger aren’t I
HH
Fantastic night at TKFin the company of many good CQNers.
Tribute to Pablo at The Kano Foundation end of season dance
New Kano foundation banner on display at Kano Foundation night. Big Kudos to the lovely wife of Phil from Barrhead St Mary’s CSC who sat up till 2am yesterday morning making and finishing banner in time for TKF night and today.
Also had the pleasure of spending 10 minutes in the company of Reamonn’s mum and dad. Humbled by their truly positive spirit. Easy to see how Reamonn became the young man he was when you spend time in the company of his mum and dad. A credit to the Celtic family.
MWD
PS. CRC, TTT, TTTT, Lisbonbhoy, Celtic Soul Brother, Sing Tim, Aldo, Minx1888, Morarbhoy, Paul67, GL2, BJmac, Carluke Shammy, Kingho & Sanna. Another good night in the company of some RGT’s and there better halves.
Special mention to Precepeta. Lovely to meet you, your stunning daughter and her stunning friends.
MWD
Sixteen roads. That is your perogative.
HH
Barcelona,Real Madrid? Who da f**k ya tryin’ to kid.
I fancy Celtic against any team on earth,especially at home.
We have far,far,far too much class for that whack of tripe.
My money is down,like it always is.