Relief and despair at Hearts CVA success

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There is a degree of relief (in some quarters) mixed with surprise that Hearts creditors have agreed to a CVA, allowing the club to exit administration.  Although administration seems to be a natural state for many in Scottish football, remarkably few have subsequently gone to the wall in the last 100 years.

Third Lanark perished in 1967, an exception during many decades of solvent behaviour.  Airdrieoneans (not to be confused with the current club by that name, which is the renamed and relocated Clydebank FC) were liquidated in 2002, with the chastising words of creditor Sir David Murray ringing in their ears.  Oh how well irony played its hand.

Murray’s own club, Rangers (not to be confused with the current club by that name), were next to be liquidation after creditor, HMRC, stuck by their published rules and rejected a proposed CVA.

Apart from this, a remarkable series of campaigns, such as ‘Well worth saving’ and ‘Save the Jags’ has seen supporters step forward and find the money to save their club from that ominous fate.

There appears to couple of rules if you want to escape liquidation.  Try to ensure 75% of your creditor value is owed to shareholder-creditors or the bank.  Many clubs survive on directors’ loan accounts, which are ultimately forgiven in administration.  Banks too have been reluctant to kill the local totem, with good commercial reason.

The major thing to avoid appears to be breaking tax law. HMRC are prevented by its own terms of business from forgiving tax debt which has been run up through illegal tax evasion.  This was the case at (original) Rangers, who conceded some of their tax dealings were not legal during 2012’s Lower Tier Tribunal.  The balance of cases are disputed and currently subject to an Upper Tier Tribunal.

Hearts success makes for an interesting SPFL Championship race this season.  With three games to go Dundee hold a two point advantage over Hamilton.  The winner will go up, second place will face a play-off, but neither club will fancy fighting Hearts for promotion next season.  I can imagine the despair elsewhere to the news that Hearts will be a Championship club next season.  Poor Ally will need to get his game together.

Remember, John Hughes will be on CQN tomorrow morning.  Tune in with your questions for him.

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  1. TBB

     

     

    Couldn’t care less about Rangers. It’s understandable, though, that Celtic as a football club will remain silent on the matter. Newco or Oldco? It doesn’t matter to me. As far as I’m concerned they are not Rangers any more.

  2. An Dun @ 11.31

     

    Look at this from the Linfield:

     

     

    “This will include other songs sung to the same tune, any use of the tune itself, and will also include those versions using words that may not be seen to be inherently sectarian in their nature.”

     

    They might have a horrible support but at least the club is capable of giving very clear instruction. A few in Scotland could learn from them on that score.

     

     

    JJ

  3. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Hamiltontim

     

     

    Got the mail and replied hurriedly complete with several typos and bad grammar as i am trying to do too many things at once whilst peddling a unicycle blindfolded!

     

     

    Don’t ask it is a long story!

  4. John Divers and John Hughes

     

    And 60 Thousand Celtic Fans

     

    Who proudly sing the news

     

     

    John

     

    The 9-0 Airdrie game being a Saturday…….my fond memory was of it being quite dark & the floodlights being on….

     

     

    Paddy T

  5. murdochauldandhay

     

     

    If anyone was to blame for the defeat against Feyenoord it must be Jock Stein. But I cover this topic in the book, too.

  6. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    BRTH

     

     

    Don’t fret. I’ll correct it and send it back to you later for redrafting! :-)

  7. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on

    John Hughes

     

     

     

    11:44 on 17 April, 2014

     

     

     

    TBB

     

     

    Couldn’t care less about Rangers. It’s understandable, though, that Celtic as a football club will remain silent on the matter. Newco or Oldco? It doesn’t matter to me. As far as I’m concerned they are not Rangers any more.

     

    _____________

     

    Leftclicktic now goes happily skipping about his chores :)))

  8. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    Livibhoy

     

     

    You have yet more mail.

  9. The Battered Bunnet on

    Thanks John. I hear fans of clubs around the country have a wee song along those lines.

  10. Thank you for all you gave to our club Yogi, always my favorite player because nobody knew what was coming next hence my CQN name.

     

    Please sign a book for me and I will make contact regarding payment.

  11. Reading back,caught bognorbhoys post…

     

     

    “I don’t want to be a boy anymore”, “I don’t want to be me”.

     

    ……………………

     

    Heartbreaking,God bless the wee ghuy and his family.

  12. Roy Coppie

     

     

    Green Brigade are fine just so long as they keep away from politics.

     

    Thanks again.

  13. traditionalist88 on

    Hail Hail John

     

     

    Can Celtic win the big one again?

     

     

    I agree Celtic are playing it properly with regard to the Rangers/Sevco scenario.

     

     

    The fans who say they are an irrelevance are the same ones who want Celtic to come out and make a statement about them. We may as well come out and make a statement that the grass is green and the world is not flat. Everyone knows!

     

     

    You will also know as well as I do that Celtic have had to put up with a lot on and off the pitch in Scotland, we were brought up to ask questions and our ‘paranoia’ was not for nothing.

     

     

    The Rangers/Sevco scenario adds to the list. The difference is…this time, the whole of Scottish Football can see them for what they are. A sham.

     

     

    The drama queens who wish to punish Celtic should be ashamed.

     

     

    Playing right into the hands of the wrong people.

     

     

    Support your club, things are unfolding nicely.

     

     

    HH

  14. Awe_naw

     

     

    I can’t comment on that. Neil Lennon sees the players every day and I don’t.

     

    Gordon Strachan believes the life expectancy of a Celtic manager in the dug-out is only four years? Quick answer – rubbish!

  15. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan supports Oscar Knox, MacKenzie Furniss and anyone else who fights Neuroblastoma on

    John,

     

     

    did you ever have a football agent? And do you think they are a good or a bad influence on the game?

  16. Paddy T

     

    I was at that game and my memory is of it being sunny and we all shouted for Frank Haffey to take the penalty as we were already winning 9-0. Their `keeper saved it and Frank applauded him before running all the way back to his own goal !

     

    I don`t recall Frank wearing Longjohns that day 0:-)

     

    Cheerio for now.

     

    JJ

  17. Hail hail John, a living legend.

     

     

    In your day, could you trust the Glasgow football journalists, that is, they were not going to put the knife into your back?

     

    Did you have to clear it with Big Jock before you gave them any titbits?

  18. John Hughes,

     

    You have been excellent on here this morning. Honesty is all important and you have shown that with every answer. Well done and all the very best with the book and with your life,

     

    JJ

     

     

    PS Celtic could do a lot worse than employ you in a PR role.

  19. Jungle Jim

     

     

    Thanks for the comments. Just remember – the truth hurts and the lies will kill you!

  20. Look at the time! lunchtime.

     

     

    Time to:

     

     

    Feed the bear,

     

    the bear,

     

    the bear is always there,

     

    feed the bear.

  21. John Hughes

     

    If given an opportunity what would you change in our setup at Celtic to make us more successfull

  22. Mr Hughes

     

     

    I remember your early games in LC v Third Lanark.

     

     

    You scored with a header at CP and seemed to steamroll over the Third ‘ s CB at Cathkin then score from edge of box.

     

     

    I was not at Ibrox when you gave Dougie Baillie the run around but after that my dad and I were big Yogi fans.

     

     

     

    You always got the better of Ian Ure of Dundee, played in sannies on a frozen surface, ploughed a furrow from one penalty box to the other at a muddy Cappielow to score.

     

     

    Lots of great memories in everyday games apart from the big ones like v Leeds.

     

     

    Thanks for the entertaining memories. On or off form you were always entertaining.

  23. Marrakesh Express on

    Yogi

     

     

    I remember the 9-0 game v Airdrie in 63, but the Aberdeen baseball boot game in the snow (jan 65), you scored 5 that day in an 8-0 win? As a 9 year old I was mesmerised.

     

    189 Goals in 10 years is some record big fella.

     

    HH.

  24. Hail hail, John, I met you in Vegas my brother Tam introduced me to you, and may I say it was a pleasure meeting you, you are one of the all time Celtic greats, and I wish you the best of health and happy times for the future, a true legend.

  25. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    John,

     

     

    Thanks

     

     

    I agree and hope Neil breaks Willie Maleys record.

     

     

    We need to stop selling the better players however. Yeah I know a tough one.

     

     

    HH