We’ve not really discussed the enormous political and disciplinary matters hanging over Scottish football since before our Champions League campaign got underway but it moves to the fore today, as the SPL Commission, headed by Lord Nimmo Smith, sits to consider charges levelled by the league against former member, Rangers FC. The Commission is expected to conclude by the end of this week.
Rangers are charged with improperly registering players by allowing footballers to enter into contractually binding agreements to receive money in connection with the game, directly or indirectly, without registering these agreements with the SPL or the SFA.
Playing an improperly registering footballer voids the result of a match, no matter how innocuous the registration impropriety is, as Spartans discovered 14 months ago to their cost. They saw their Scottish Cup win over Culter overturned because a player’s registration form was dated only once, not twice as required.
As well as being awarded a 0-3 defeat, the improper registration of players will cost the offending club any prize money ‘won’ and will result in a disciplinary measure being imposed. Spartans were fined £4000, approximately 20% of their annual income, and were suspended from the competition for 12 months. A steep tariff for leaving a box on a form empty and fielding a player in one game of football.
Lots of speculation has centred on the so-called ‘stripping of titles’ but in the event the Commission upholds the charge the voiding of results will happen as a matter of consequence; it should not subject to speculation. What is more interesting is the size of prize money the league would seek to reclaim, and redistribute, and any penalty imposed by the Commission.
SPL teams receive prize money based on their final league position, funded by the league’s TV deal, which for teams finishing in the top two positions is well in excess of £1m each year. Any ‘stripping of titles’ is likely to be a headline grabber, but the repayment of prize money and disciplinary measures will be far more significant, for some.
Sir David Murray, who owned Rangers throughout the period of alleged improper registration of players, insists the club registered all contractually binding payments players received in connection with playing football. SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, was an executive director of Rangers for some of the period under investigation and may have been responsible for some registrations.
Charles Green rejected an offer to limit the consequences of the charge being upheld in return for his company (then called Sevco 5088 Ltd) acquiring the SFA membership vacated by Rangers. We will soon discover if he is master of the Cunning Plan or an over-ambitious gambler.
I expect calls for SPL and SFA rules to be upheld without fear or favour to be met.
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bazzabhoy
Against Hibs
Celtic won 2 nil
‘I expect calls for SPL and SFA rules to be upheld without fear or favour to be met’
I’m sorry Paul, ‘They’ are spinning everything out as long as possible until they hope that people think that the new club in Scottish football is not a new club, that it is really the defunct Scottish club that was Rangers comlete with history. ‘They’ will do their best to obfuscate the whole thing.
Efe Ambrose 14/1 FGS today.
Does he take penalties?
LB
bazzabhoy
LiviBhoy
SoAL
Cheers, memory is starting to go then. I agree, we should stop changing penalty taker. It’s one of the causes of why we miss so many. Infact, feck it, let big Kelvin take them from now :p
HH
On a serious note on penalties. It’s not beyond the realms of possibilities that the Juventus tie could be decided on penalty kicks. I hope Mr Lennon is getting the players into the habit of taking them every day. All players need to take them including goalies.
The Italians won’t miss many.
LB
LiviBhoy
15:23 on
29 January, 2013
Big G
Captains job for me. Laces through the ball.
Hit it right at the keeper as hard as you can.
LB
Livibhoy you surely mean ‘Have a Dig’ Laces through the ball
hit it past the keeper and into the Goal saying ‘Get In There’
Mr Lassad take note?
Lassad through on the Goalkeeper last Sunday with only the
Goalkeeper to beet what doe he do? Instead of option one
laces through the ball past the goalkeeper and into the net
he decides to pass to the marked player in the shape of
young Hoops outcome excellent chance sailing down towards
Mount Pleasant what a numpty don’t always look for certain
individuals to put the ball in the net Lassad done it against
Flats-Flats so what’s the problem
Philbhoy
Neil Lennon says he’ll have “a look at it” then decide. * it = all the chancers © Philbhoy *
My guess for what it’s worth is that there will be changes, but then what do I know
about Celtic or football in general, or anything, school teachers used to describe me as ‘terminally thick”
Yes, I was that child banished to the back of the class room with Rafia!
Sadly things have not improved with the passing of years…………………
Hey Ho its off to CP we go CSC
Long time lurker, first time poster. My views on the LNS enquiry is whatever the outcome Celtic are quids in (hope they get the titles stripped all the same) If they are issued a fine of say 10m i can see Peter Lawwell heading up with a cheque tomorrow. The old Rangers saved 48m at the end of the day. If its a ban from the Scottish Cup i would gladly give up our right to be in it this year. All the other punishments like a suspension or ban i think unlikely. This is what i feel the SFA’s problem is going to be. No punishment at all and i can see Peter Lawwell unveil all the players tomorrow and say all these players are now on £500 per week and the rest is going into a tax avoidance scheme. After all it wouldn’t be fair if just one club could do it eh ?
AKBW1888
We shouldn’t even be talking about missed penalties. We should have put St Mirren to the sword without one!
Smash the ball at the keeper and he will move.
LB
” Davie Hay has a fresh pair of legs up his sleeve ”
John Greig
p.s. Happy Birthday – Davie
LiviBhoy
15:38 on
29 January, 2013
On a serious note on penalties. It’s not beyond the realms of possibilities that the Juventus tie could be decided on penalty kicks. I hope Mr Lennon is getting the players into the habit of taking them every day. All players need to take them including goalies.
The Italians won’t miss many.
LB
Spot on Livibhoy
The best penalty taker the Hoops have @ present is Kris Commons
the rest of them are pants too many penalties have been missed by
other players in the team regularly which is no good penalty conversions
lead to prizes misses lead to regret every penalty taker should work
on giving the goalkeeper the eyes and sending him the wrong way
confidence and composure it as simple as that
AKBW1888.
I would love to tell of my escapades in,and. on my way to Lisbon,but memory isn’t up to it now, the story would be very fragmented, a bit jumbled up,but there isn’t one thing I’d change except I could do with a bit more memory.
Re penalty kick takers
Did we not go with the
One player takes it until they miss
And then a different player takes it until he misses
And so on
Clink\o/
Yip, – they’ve all missed
LiviBhoy
15:41 on
29 January, 2013
AKBW1888
We shouldn’t even be talking about missed penalties. We should have put St Mirren to the sword without one!
Smash the ball at the keeper and he will move.
LB
Yeah spot on LB but that no show on Sunday was like just came out of
the night club feel and onto the pitch in my diary p*ss poor performance
down as no show only one team on the pitch up for the match and sad
to say it was not the Hoops still never mind that’s the treble bye-de-bye
for another Season hopefully the said group of players have learned
from their mistakes like not treating the opposition lightly and being on
ones guard
Auldheid
RC Ogilvie’s postion is already untenable.
He presided over the issuing of a euro licence to the huns, when they should not have received one.
They admitted liability re the small tax case, no amount of paper shuffling or shredding can get away from that fact.
Think making player practice penalties before a big game might alter the players mindset a wee bit
On the penalties discussion – let Big Vic take them. Imagine being a goalie and watching him charging at you, squaring to fire a bomb straight at you from 12 yards. Bloody sure I wouldn’t try to get in the way of it… 100 percent conversion rate a certainty.
oldtim67
15:47 on
29 January, 2013
AKBW1888.
I would love to tell of my escapades in,and. on my way to Lisbon,but memory isn’t up to it now, the story would be very fragmented, a bit jumbled up,but there isn’t one thing I’d change except I could do with a bit more memory.
I know Senior Tim 67
Where you one of the ones that set off to Lisbon via one of those old
Hill-man Imp type of vehicle or where you one of the fortunate ones
to travel by the Pan-Am Airplane in those days??
AKBW1888
Pick a spot and smash it there. Neil lennon has already said today that Charlie changed his mind in the run up. Never change your mind when taking a penalty. All the pros say that. The pressure can be one thing but if you hit it hard enough on the ground it is almost impossible for the keeper to get down to it in time.
It’s about confidence. I listened to the Hearts v ICT penalties on the radio and from the commentary it didn’t sound as if any of the Hearts penalties were anywhere near saving.
Did they practice the week before the match? I suspect they did.
All teams that are good at penalties in shoot outs practice regularly. Someone put some stats up last week regarding penalties. Most players will put it to the side they kick with and if the keeper uses that logic he can save any that are at saveable height such as Charlies at the weekend. I wonder is that is the logic that Forster uses. He has an excellent save ratio from the spot. He is a top class keeper though which helps but his preparation is probably excellent too. That separates the good from the great.
People can argue for as long as they like about whether Beckham was world class or not. I don’t think he was but he was a fine player. He is a dead ball specialist because he has continually practiced free kicks throughout his career and stayed behind on his own for hours doing so. The same commitment is required from good players to be better. Some of our players could take a leaf out of his book in honing their techniques.
LB
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Brilliant
Noticed a few comments from the teddybears posted on here
One word keeps jumping out from their ramblings
And that is the word Bigot.
Now was I sleeping when Scotland suddenly became a catholic country and any protestants in it are all Sevco fans
Pauloantony
http://www.duedil.com/
Thanks for that.
SPF
I wonder who this fella is talking about?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/9834122/Operation-Puerto-doctor-Eufemiano-Fuentes-treated-tennis-players-athletes-footballers-and-a-boxer.html
Jackie Mac gets the Dundee Utd job.
Interesting debut ahead…
Jackie Mac getting the Arabs gig?
Don’t see him holding back on Sunday.
SSN stats on Ballotelli, 7 starts this season, 1 goal and 6 shots on target, 7 appearnces as a sub too, and they want £22m for him
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Congratulations to Jackie.
Loved him in the hoops-struck by the curse of the utility player,but was FAR better than that.
Best of luck on Saturday,mate-and in the future (up to a point……)
How can Green appeal the verdict if Sevco state they have no liability in respect of old rangers and what went on?
The only one that can appeal is BDO.
If a player kicks the football at 50 mph the keeper has less than a second to react… Just belt it on target…
AKBW 1888
Can you remind me about this post later,please?
For obvious reasons,and not kidding either…….
Big Fraser not in team (again) for tomorrow night.
Fraser Forster will be missing again for Celtic in their Clydesdale Bank Premier League clash with Kilmarnock at Parkhead.
The Hoops goalkeeper is on the mend following a neck injury which has kept him out of the last three matches.
Manager Neil Lennon said: “He is progressing slowly but will not be available (on Wednesday). Sunday against Raith Rovers might be an opportunity but we don’t want to rush him back.”
With deadline day looming!
They wouldnt, would they?
Jackie Mac to get the DU job. spence
Press Association Sport understands a deal has been agreed for Manchester City striker Mario Balotelli to join AC Milan.
The Serie A team have agreed to pay around £20m for the player, with some of the fee being made up by bonuses.
City have so far made no comment on the matter.
ASonOfDan,
:o)
Not a fan of Jackie to be honest. But I would even wish Auld Nick good luck on Sunday against that mob.
Good luck to Jackie Mac.
Great wee player and a dedicated pro.
I was at his Celtic debut at Brockville. Pre internet and mobile phones we were all scratching our heads asking who the wee skinny guy was. I thought at the time this wee guy won’t do.
Fast forward a few years and he was planting one on Hately’s chin at Celtic Park (and getting away with it). I went to a Celtic match at Ibrox a few years later and a CSC had a photo of the incident enlarged and placed on the back of their bus with a speech bubble from young Jackie saying ‘Take that ya Hun Bassa’
A great player for Celtic who gave his all for the team.
Good luck in the United job on Sunday and anytime you don’t play the Hoops.
Will he be enquiring for any of our youngsters or squad players? He seems to be quite keen to take our Bhoys on loan.
LB